check out the article list: Origins: Why the iPhone is ARM, and isn't Symbian The Egregious Incompetence of Palm More Absurd iPhone Myths: Third Party Software Panic More Absurd iPhone Myths: iSuppli, Subsidies, and Pricing The Spectacular Failure of WinCE and Windows Mobile OS X vs. WinCE: How iPhone Differs from Windows Mobile Apple's OS X: How Does it Fit on the iPhone? Why OS X is on the iPhone, but not the PC Apple iPhone vs LG Prada KE850 Phone Wars: iPhone vs TyTN, Treo, Pearl, E62, P990, Q Smartphones: iPhone and the Big Fat Mobile Industry Cingular Apple iPhone vs. Verizon Motorola Q Zune vs. iPhone: Five Phases of Media Coverage Inside the iPhone: FairPlay DRM and the iTunes Store Inside the iPhone: Wireless and Sync vs. Palm, WinCE Inside the iPhone: UI, Stability, and Software Readers Write About iPhone, 3G Wireless Networks Inside the iPhone: Third Party Software Inside the iPhone: Mac OS X, ARM, and iPod OS X Inside the iPhone: EDGE, EVDO, HSUPA, 3G, and WiFi Macworld: Ten Myths of the Apple iPhone Macworld: Scorecard and Secrets of the iPhone
if that doesn't give you the idea...
However, none of this precludes the article itself from being an objective look at the Symbian platform. But it seems the writer fails to rise up to the occasion, and just delivered some hearsay from supposed "developers" and "executives".
So I dug around a bit more, read a few more paragraphs from different articles, while the writing is better than average and more technical than most, it still seems to read like every other fanboy site, this case the fanboy being an Apple fanboy, which means that absolutely every-fucking-thing that Apple/Jobs does is the total awsomeness double plus good. If only the writer(s) could be slightly critical just every now and then to give the articles that sense of non-PR-ness.
In the article "Phone Wars": "The iPhone is closer to being a micro-laptop using flash RAM than a conventional smartphone." This about a unreleased product with only a few grainy photos... then it goes on to bash all other "competitors" and actually just short of _praising_ Apple for not including 3G into the iPhone.
Then in the features the iPhone has 4096 MB of RAM! holy moly. I understand that with handheld devices RAM can sometimes be used for both storage and running programs, like in my trusty Palm E2, but for all other phones, only the RAM is listed and not the storage-use ROM, and yet the iPhone is listed with 4Gb of RAM! I dunno, doesn't sound like even-handed treatment.
agreed. For example, SDS, a common detergent used in biochem labs (not for cleaning purposes) easily kills HIV. But I doubt they are going to inject into any human beings anytime soon.
No. It's been proven that spheres are the best shapes for travelling down tubes, so IBM packaged their data into little balls, in order to travel down the internet tubes as fast as possible.
I think the debugging webpage code for IE7 on Linux wasn't the original aim. The author(s) just found something he/she thinks is interesting (i.e. running IE7 on Linux) and dresses it up as "for debugging purpose" which sounds a more useful than just "hey look, IE7 on Linux", which is just pure geek.
We see this a lot in research. In order to get grants, research dress up their pet projects in all kinds of buzzwords to get government interests. In biomed, you go for things like cancer, Alzheimer's, prion, (neuro-degenerative diseases are always good). In physics, I think the biggest money attractor now is probably quantum computing, which is I involved (i think) both solid states and theoretical and touches on a whole bunch of stuff. They are not really looking for what the grant applications states, it just allows them to get money for what they are really interested in, which probably has some immediate applicability.
I am not saying that this is a bad thing. It's just that, in general, funding bodies are short-sighted, while researchers are visionaries, and the system has evolved to become some sort of middle ground.
I spent a few years in uni using latex on pine for documents, lynx for web-browsing and pine for emails. The UI was totally consistent, actually, absolutely fucking the same.
I use about 90% Kubutun and 10% Windows XP, I've spent perhaps a total of 1 hour on OS X, porting a small Java application for a friend, so I am definitely not qualified to talk about OS X.
But after skimming through this article, it seemed like the author's just using a lot of words to say that, he likes Apple's OS X.
From his other articles, obviously he uses OS X a fair bit and is his preference of platform. And all signs of Apple favouritism is there in his writing, albeit wrapped in much nicer language than your typical fan writing. Nevertheless, it comes across.
But this article is almost not worth reading. I mean, he spends most of time talking about the UI experience between the two, which is completely subjective to users, rather than anything that can be compared objectively. So he ends up saying, OS X is superior to Vista, because he likes it better. Pretty much nothing more, just _because_ he's used to it and likes it better, and he's probably been using OS X since its inception, and likes things to stay that way for a long time.
He complains that it takes complicated steps to find the computer's IP address in Vista. Two questions here, 1) do users who care that much about whether the title bar goes transparent on inactive windows really need to know the computer's IP address? 2) I believe you can get it in one step by typing in ipconfig or something like that.
and spouting stuff like "being able to use USB memory sticks as additional RAM"... WTF... in words of Pauli, this is "not even wrong". why is he even worth reading?
I've run out of steam, so don't actually know how to finish this off properly.
The point is to change the data to a format that is easier to process.
For example, if you just look at the wav spectrum or frequency spectrum of a piece of music, it's difficult to tell who was the composer. However, if you re-package the information into sounds, then it becomes much easier to analyse or identify, at least by humans.
Of course, this is the reverse of what they are doing, i.e. their original data is not sound-based, but the idea is similar, they are hoping that the volcano's data (which is a wave form of sorts) is easier to process in the form of sounds by human ears than by looking at the graphs.
You want to base your arguments on a "debate" in wiki and going by what you heard years ago in science class?
try reading some scientific papers instead. scholar.google.com is shaping up to be pretty good at finding information. At least read the abstracts, they are usually pretty concise and to the point. Try this one for size:
XYY syndrome and other Y chromosome polysomies. Mental status and psychosocial functioning.
Fryns JP, Kleczkowska A, Kubien E, Van den Berghe H.
In this report we review the data on 75 male patients with extra Y chromosome diagnosed in Leuven in the period 1968-1993 among 98,725 patients (males and females) referred for constitutional chromosomal analysis. Special attention was given to their mental performance and psychosocial functioning. 1. Fifty male with 47,XYY karyotype were diagnosed. This is very close to the incidence of XYY in newborn studies and indicates that the frequency of MR/MCA is not increased in XYY male in general. 2. In the 60 patients with "pure" Y chromosome polysomy, the most frequent indication for karyotyping was the presence of MR and/or characterological problems in the index patients. Mental retardation was mostly borderline to mild, and severe mental retardation was rare. Characterological problems, difficulties in psychosocial integration and psychiatric problems were found in 86% of the mentally retarded versus 24% of the mentally normal men. 3. The 48,XXYY syndrome is characterized by markedly frequent and severe behavioural and psychiatric problems.
Exactly. The same way that watching bacterial cells divide themselves is more interesting than watching Jenna Jameson doing her stuff.
The latter is infinitely "better" to watch, but gets tedious after a while, but the former is always interesting, "interesting" as in Hollywood keeps putting that kind of footages in sci-fi movies.
You've read too many comicbooks and science fictions.
Extra X or Y chromosome actually causes defects such as skeletal abnormalities, decreased IQ, and delayed development, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
stereo? Bah! Real men listen in mono!
I am currently perfercting a technique where I use my tongue to sense the vibration in the air. Hmm... taste that Britney Spears...
I am sorry, but I don't understand why that is a mis-statement or exaggeration.
Google has confirmed that they do in fact use Ubuntu internally (see link below) and Ubuntu is a collection of open source software (which is in fact, an understatement, if anything).
'Google press relations office, technology spokeswoman Sonya Borälv responded very quickly to my query on the topic. She said that "[w]e use Ubuntu internally but have no plans to distribute it outside of the company."'
As for Shuttleworth, I've no doubt he is more charismatic than ESR and would likely make a better PR face for OSS than ESR, but is he ever actually mentioned out of context of Ubuntu? My point is that his recent publicity are mostly linked to Ubuntu, and not really other Linux/OSS related things.
So I did read the relatively short and concise article, but I still came away thinking that if you replace the business buzzwords, like "strategic", "consolidation" and leave out "open source", the article becomes something like:
1. business/enterprise customers don't like immature softwares, even if they are free
which is either a very obvious comment or a very... obvious comment.
2. SAP... blah blah blah... better than IBM, Microsoft and Oracle
which is probably not surprising, coming from a SAP executive.
seriously, where's the news? Did anyone really expect this guy to say anything good about anything other than SAP?
Finally, is there a piece of software (other than "Hello World!") that was never "immature"? Somehow just went straight from planning to finished mature product?
okay, I absolutely agree that speeding things up with just the existing hardware is a good thing, and _even_if_ this is the only that Xgl brings, it is still a very good and important thing.
But my question still remains, do 3D desktops have the potential to change the way we interact with computers? or is it still too early to say?
I watched the demo movies, the last one (Spinning Cube) especially looks quite impressive.
However, I am wondering if the step from 2D to 3D desktop is as significant as say, going from commandline to GUI.
It doesn't seem like these 3D desktops actually offer much more functionality than existing 2D desktops. For example, the screen captures of Looking Glass 3d desktop from Sun doesn't seem to offer much more than just some eye candies. Or in case of the spinning cube demo, it doesn't seem to offer (functionally) more than virtual desktops, essentially a fancy way of changing from one desktop to another, which probably can still be done faster with some keyboard shortcut.
I am trying not to sound like some diehard stubborn conservative who wants to bring back the glory days of command line only interface, rather, I am asking if 3D desktops will change the way that we interact with computers, in the sense that barely anyone remember what it was like to work in DOS? Is this a step towards to (gasp shock horror) VR-based interfacing? Will a new hardware tool be needed like the mouse was necessary for the transition away from commandline?
What a load of horse manure.
How can they not be seen as the huge American company when they do things like asking US Government and DoJ to intervene on their behalf in EU investigations?
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1887714,00.as p
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great! and then we can moderate the moderators for their rationale, but then who's going to moderate the moderators who moderate the moderators?
I think there was a point in there somewhere.
check out the article list:
Origins: Why the iPhone is ARM, and isn't Symbian
The Egregious Incompetence of Palm
More Absurd iPhone Myths: Third Party Software Panic
More Absurd iPhone Myths: iSuppli, Subsidies, and Pricing
The Spectacular Failure of WinCE and Windows Mobile
OS X vs. WinCE: How iPhone Differs from Windows Mobile
Apple's OS X: How Does it Fit on the iPhone?
Why OS X is on the iPhone, but not the PC
Apple iPhone vs LG Prada KE850
Phone Wars: iPhone vs TyTN, Treo, Pearl, E62, P990, Q
Smartphones: iPhone and the Big Fat Mobile Industry
Cingular Apple iPhone vs. Verizon Motorola Q
Zune vs. iPhone: Five Phases of Media Coverage
Inside the iPhone: FairPlay DRM and the iTunes Store
Inside the iPhone: Wireless and Sync vs. Palm, WinCE
Inside the iPhone: UI, Stability, and Software
Readers Write About iPhone, 3G Wireless Networks
Inside the iPhone: Third Party Software
Inside the iPhone: Mac OS X, ARM, and iPod OS X
Inside the iPhone: EDGE, EVDO, HSUPA, 3G, and WiFi
Macworld: Ten Myths of the Apple iPhone
Macworld: Scorecard and Secrets of the iPhone
if that doesn't give you the idea...
However, none of this precludes the article itself from being an objective look at the Symbian platform. But it seems the writer fails to rise up to the occasion, and just delivered some hearsay from supposed "developers" and "executives".
So I dug around a bit more, read a few more paragraphs from different articles, while the writing is better than average and more technical than most, it still seems to read like every other fanboy site, this case the fanboy being an Apple fanboy, which means that absolutely every-fucking-thing that Apple/Jobs does is the total awsomeness double plus good. If only the writer(s) could be slightly critical just every now and then to give the articles that sense of non-PR-ness.
In the article "Phone Wars":
"The iPhone is closer to being a micro-laptop using flash RAM than a conventional smartphone."
This about a unreleased product with only a few grainy photos... then it goes on to bash all other "competitors" and actually just short of _praising_ Apple for not including 3G into the iPhone.
Then in the features the iPhone has 4096 MB of RAM! holy moly. I understand that with handheld devices RAM can sometimes be used for both storage and running programs, like in my trusty Palm E2, but for all other phones, only the RAM is listed and not the storage-use ROM, and yet the iPhone is listed with 4Gb of RAM! I dunno, doesn't sound like even-handed treatment.
isn't this what BeOS used to have? where you can launch BeOS from within Windows. And in Windows you just see a file, which is the BeOS image.
can you send me some spam? I missed lunch.
agreed. For example, SDS, a common detergent used in biochem labs (not for cleaning purposes) easily kills HIV. But I doubt they are going to inject into any human beings anytime soon.
No. It's been proven that spheres are the best shapes for travelling down tubes, so IBM packaged their data into little balls, in order to travel down the internet tubes as fast as possible.
I think the debugging webpage code for IE7 on Linux wasn't the original aim. The author(s) just found something he/she thinks is interesting (i.e. running IE7 on Linux) and dresses it up as "for debugging purpose" which sounds a more useful than just "hey look, IE7 on Linux", which is just pure geek.
We see this a lot in research. In order to get grants, research dress up their pet projects in all kinds of buzzwords to get government interests. In biomed, you go for things like cancer, Alzheimer's, prion, (neuro-degenerative diseases are always good). In physics, I think the biggest money attractor now is probably quantum computing, which is I involved (i think) both solid states and theoretical and touches on a whole bunch of stuff. They are not really looking for what the grant applications states, it just allows them to get money for what they are really interested in, which probably has some immediate applicability.
I am not saying that this is a bad thing. It's just that, in general, funding bodies are short-sighted, while researchers are visionaries, and the system has evolved to become some sort of middle ground.
You gotta play the system to win!
and it should be latex on pico, not pine.
forgot to mention, ASCII porn was really lame...
I spent a few years in uni using latex on pine for documents, lynx for web-browsing and pine for emails. The UI was totally consistent, actually, absolutely fucking the same.
I use about 90% Kubutun and 10% Windows XP, I've spent perhaps a total of 1 hour on OS X, porting a small Java application for a friend, so I am definitely not qualified to talk about OS X.
But after skimming through this article, it seemed like the author's just using a lot of words to say that, he likes Apple's OS X.
From his other articles, obviously he uses OS X a fair bit and is his preference of platform. And all signs of Apple favouritism is there in his writing, albeit wrapped in much nicer language than your typical fan writing. Nevertheless, it comes across.
But this article is almost not worth reading. I mean, he spends most of time talking about the UI experience between the two, which is completely subjective to users, rather than anything that can be compared objectively. So he ends up saying, OS X is superior to Vista, because he likes it better. Pretty much nothing more, just _because_ he's used to it and likes it better, and he's probably been using OS X since its inception, and likes things to stay that way for a long time.
He complains that it takes complicated steps to find the computer's IP address in Vista. Two questions here, 1) do users who care that much about whether the title bar goes transparent on inactive windows really need to know the computer's IP address? 2) I believe you can get it in one step by typing in ipconfig or something like that.
and spouting stuff like "being able to use USB memory sticks as additional RAM"...
WTF... in words of Pauli, this is "not even wrong". why is he even worth reading?
I've run out of steam, so don't actually know how to finish this off properly.
The point is to change the data to a format that is easier to process.
For example, if you just look at the wav spectrum or frequency spectrum of a piece of music, it's difficult to tell who was the composer. However, if you re-package the information into sounds, then it becomes much easier to analyse or identify, at least by humans.
Of course, this is the reverse of what they are doing, i.e. their original data is not sound-based, but the idea is similar, they are hoping that the volcano's data (which is a wave form of sorts) is easier to process in the form of sounds by human ears than by looking at the graphs.
jeepers creepers.
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You want to base your arguments on a "debate" in wiki and going by what you heard years ago in science class?
try reading some scientific papers instead. scholar.google.com is shaping up to be pretty good at finding information. At least read the abstracts, they are usually pretty concise and to the point. Try this one for size:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd
XYY syndrome and other Y chromosome polysomies. Mental status and psychosocial functioning.
Fryns JP, Kleczkowska A, Kubien E, Van den Berghe H.
In this report we review the data on 75 male patients with extra Y chromosome diagnosed in Leuven in the period 1968-1993 among 98,725 patients (males and females) referred for constitutional chromosomal analysis. Special attention was given to their mental performance and psychosocial functioning. 1. Fifty male with 47,XYY karyotype were diagnosed. This is very close to the incidence of XYY in newborn studies and indicates that the frequency of MR/MCA is not increased in XYY male in general. 2. In the 60 patients with "pure" Y chromosome polysomy, the most frequent indication for karyotyping was the presence of MR and/or characterological problems in the index patients. Mental retardation was mostly borderline to mild, and severe mental retardation was rare. Characterological problems, difficulties in psychosocial integration and psychiatric problems were found in 86% of the mentally retarded versus 24% of the mentally normal men. 3. The 48,XXYY syndrome is characterized by markedly frequent and severe behavioural and psychiatric problems.
Exactly. The same way that watching bacterial cells divide themselves is more interesting than watching Jenna Jameson doing her stuff.
The latter is infinitely "better" to watch, but gets tedious after a while, but the former is always interesting, "interesting" as in Hollywood keeps putting that kind of footages in sci-fi movies.
You've read too many comicbooks and science fictions.
Extra X or Y chromosome actually causes defects such as skeletal abnormalities, decreased IQ, and delayed development, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
what do they taste like?
stereo? Bah! Real men listen in mono! I am currently perfercting a technique where I use my tongue to sense the vibration in the air. Hmm... taste that Britney Spears...
I am sorry, but I don't understand why that is a mis-statement or exaggeration.
Google has confirmed that they do in fact use Ubuntu internally (see link below) and Ubuntu is a collection of open source software (which is in fact, an understatement, if anything).
link: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060131-6087 .html
From the article:
As for Shuttleworth, I've no doubt he is more charismatic than ESR and would likely make a better PR face for OSS than ESR, but is he ever actually mentioned out of context of Ubuntu? My point is that his recent publicity are mostly linked to Ubuntu, and not really other Linux/OSS related things.
and the article is still just as pointless.
So I did read the relatively short and concise article, but I still came away thinking that if you replace the business buzzwords, like "strategic", "consolidation" and leave out "open source", the article becomes something like:
1. business/enterprise customers don't like immature softwares, even if they are free
which is either a very obvious comment or a very ... obvious comment.
2. SAP ... blah blah blah... better than IBM, Microsoft and Oracle
which is probably not surprising, coming from a SAP executive.
seriously, where's the news? Did anyone really expect this guy to say anything good about anything other than SAP?
Finally, is there a piece of software (other than "Hello World!") that was never "immature"? Somehow just went straight from planning to finished mature product?
okay, I absolutely agree that speeding things up with just the existing hardware is a good thing, and _even_if_ this is the only that Xgl brings, it is still a very good and important thing.
But my question still remains, do 3D desktops have the potential to change the way we interact with computers? or is it still too early to say?
I watched the demo movies, the last one (Spinning Cube) especially looks quite impressive.
However, I am wondering if the step from 2D to 3D desktop is as significant as say, going from commandline to GUI.
It doesn't seem like these 3D desktops actually offer much more functionality than existing 2D desktops. For example, the screen captures of Looking Glass 3d desktop from Sun doesn't seem to offer much more than just some eye candies. Or in case of the spinning cube demo, it doesn't seem to offer (functionally) more than virtual desktops, essentially a fancy way of changing from one desktop to another, which probably can still be done faster with some keyboard shortcut.
I am trying not to sound like some diehard stubborn conservative who wants to bring back the glory days of command line only interface, rather, I am asking if 3D desktops will change the way that we interact with computers, in the sense that barely anyone remember what it was like to work in DOS? Is this a step towards to (gasp shock horror) VR-based interfacing? Will a new hardware tool be needed like the mouse was necessary for the transition away from commandline?
What a load of horse manure. How can they not be seen as the huge American company when they do things like asking US Government and DoJ to intervene on their behalf in EU investigations? http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1887714,00.as p