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New "Hairy Lobster" Crustacean Discovered and Classified
AviLazar writes "American-led divers discovered a new type of Crustacean, that resembles a lobster but has it's claws covered in 'sinuous, hair-like strands'. This species is so different, from other Crustacean's that it was classified with a new Family name: Kiwaida. Unfortunately for the Kiwaida, the AP is already using this blind creature and a salad plate in the same sentence."
Sinuous hair-like strands? Those don't sound tasty at all. But I'm willing to eat it anyway.
Great, now I get to pick hairs out of my teeth when I eat this, too?
This guy's the limit!
what do they taste like?
I've heard of a hairy clam but never a hairy lobster.
So now furries will be dressing up as this? *shudders*
With or without butter?
- Just my $0.02, take with a grain of salt, your mileage may vary.
This raises obvious questions about the value of the 'hairs'.
Given that it is blind, I suppose they may be tactile, like a cat's whiskers.
Or perhaps detritous gets stuck in the hairs and it is a rudimentary filter feeder.
Or perhaps most lobsters shave regularly, but since this one's blind... nah.
Yip, Blondes are evolving
The "hairs" are probably not what we think of as hair, but probably serve as some kind of sensory system, to detect the movement of currents or perhaps the movement of prey nearby, since according to the article: "It's also blind. The researchers found it had only 'the vestige of a membrane' in place of eyes, Segonzac said."
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"The family was named Kiwaida, from Kiwa, the goddess of crustaceans in Polynesian mythology."
Polynesian crustaceans get their own goddess? That's pretty flippin' sweet!
And as a sidenote, that lobster resembles a hairy dustmite.
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There's a bigger pic on bbc, reminds me of the big hug from the soup adverts.
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I want one of those to hang on my rear view mirror.
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The hair, while surprising, is not if you consider that it could just be a sensory organ. Note how evolution deprecated the critter's eyes since the hairs would probably be more effective in the 7500 foot depth where it lives. Once in a while it is nice to see that there are still things to be discovered.
I like this lobster. Its a furry creature with hair all over it's claws!
-- gid
Since when was a salad plate a unit of measure?
All Hail Whitey the Gorilla Lobstarrrr!
Don't just classify it, provide a recipe too!
I kid, I kid...
I like how it was actually discovered by a french scientist and the specie is now in Paris ... but the news says "American-led divers" ... patriotism...... not fetch. biased ? sike.
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Here is the new Taxonomy order:
Domain
Kingdom
Phylum
Class
Order
Family
Genus
Species
Yummy-ness!
Move over toy dogs (yeah, Doodles, Puggles, and the like I am talking to you), we have a new winner for fashion accessories - the hairy lobster! I am going to start selling tote bags, bejeweled clothing, and of course blinged-out cooking ware! Now when Ms. Paris Hilton's pet dies she can consume it instead of burying it in her backyard's mass grave.
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Obligatory crack:
Joan Rivers: Oh, look who's coming down the red carpet. It's Paris! Oh, oh, she brought her new pet Mr. BoJangles - her bearded clam!
Ryan Seacrest: Ahm, Joan... if the internet or E! has taught me anything, it is Paris's clam is NEVER bearded. Always shaved for a good shot. I think that is her furry lobster.
Paris Hilton.
...and I wish to complain to the chef about this disgusting meal!
Waiter: I'm afraid you'll have to wait, sir. He's just gone out for his dinner.
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Waiter! There's a hair in my lobster bisque soup!!
My mother was right! It will make hair grow on your hands.
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Scientists said the animal, which they named Kiwa hirsuta, was so distinct from other species that they created a new family and genus for it.
These scientists obviously don't know squat!Capitalism: When it uses the carrot, it's called democracy. When it uses the stick, it's called fascism.
Finally! A crustacean I can hug!!!
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Is this some freak result of the nuclear testing done by the US in this area in the 50s?
At first I misread the title as: "New 'Hairy Lobster' Crustacean Discovered in Classifieds"
I now feel safe enough to creepily browse myspace again...
An albino tarantula raped a lobster as it was scavenging near shore.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
A lot of deep sea creatures have ammonia in them for anti-freeze and are not very tasty.
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Looks like a tick or a chigger... some sort of big Godzilla-like lice.
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Too... many... jokes... can't... pick... one...
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This species is so different, from other Crustacean's
.... what!? Spit it out man! And why is Crustacean capitalized?
From other crustacean's
you must have remarkably poor technique.
The edible parts are hairless.
sigs, as if you care.
From TFA, The researchers said that while legions of new ocean species are discovered each year, it is quite rare to find one that merits a new family. - That's great. However, I don't think I'll be lining up to get one at my local sushi bar... Also, I don't think I'd invite it over for drinks or anything - it is actually kind of scary looking
It would be interesting to find out if this particular creature is strictly zoned, or is at many different levels in other parts of the world.
Science harkens, "hither!"
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I thought "Hairy Lobster" was the upcoming Ubuntu release...
The journal mentioned in the BBC article is Zoosystema, although they don't appear to have their most recent copy online.
The Department of homeland Security has been CLASSIFYING and RE-CLASSIFYING EVERYHTING it can gets its hands on !!!!!
Now even a Crustaction is being CLASSIFIED.....................
Oh wait my bad.....
Maybe I am just getting used to this "new world" we live in, but I read that as if the US government classified this as some sort of state secret. Who knows, this new hairy lobster might be key to winning the war on terrorism, or know the location of a secret underwater Iraqi WMD project.
The Furry Old Lobster already has a song about him, even.
I am the lobster! Ko Ko Kachoo.
I discovered a hairy flounder last night. I have also stumbled across a bearded clam on many occasions.
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The classification for lobster goes something like: Arthropoda;Crustacea;Decopoda (for phylum, class, and order, respectively). All family names of all animals on the planet end in -idae. Therefore, the family name of "Kiwaida" is incorrect and should be "Kiwaidae". However, it is also possible that a new family wasn't named but a new suborder or order -- in this case the spelling would be correct. The AP has multiplied an apparent mispelling around the world at lightning speed, congratulations!
It wasn't a rock, it was a mossy lobster!
So blondes aren't going extinct after all - they're just just mutating into a more intelligent form.
"We are all geniuses when we dream"
- E.M. Cioran
Oh, come now... has noone read "The Areas of my Expertise"?
Ya'll are missing out.
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"New 'Hairy Lobster' Crustacean Discovered and Classified" Was it just me, or did anyone else read that and think of some government agency trying to classify and cover up a secret new form of life?
maybe from these lyrics by the B-52's we could fit hairy lobster in there somewhere. maybe they could re-do the song. Hey lets get Weird-Al to do a parody! yeah! pass the salad plate please..
In fact, I seem to remember a certain book review that may be of aid to you unenlightened masses.
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I for one welcome our new Hairy Crustacean Overlords!
In soviet Russia, fuzzy crustacean overlords welcome YOU!
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Looks like a giant albino underwater tick with hairy claws.
Finally! A story that I can use the "crustacean" tag on!
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And that's why I don't think the lobsters will file an appeal.
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Am I the only one who read that headline and thought it was about the next Ubuntu release?
Okay, so not for *hairy* lobster, but lobster none the less. Excuse the shameless plug, but I do have quite a few Lobster Recipes to choose from. You can add them to your recipebox. Don't forget the Old Bay Crab seasoning.
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(Well, I thought I'd "muscle" in on the jokes)
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Won't be a surprised if within the next day there's the newest fashion buzz: Lobster Fur only from J Lo Collections...
I can't remember if it's the anemone or the sea urchin (or both) that uses "arms" to guide food to a mouth. If there is a central mouth, rather than one on each hair (as you might expect on a filter feeder), then my guess would be that the hairs are manipulators for food particles.
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...or does "hairy lobster" sound like some sort of pornographic slang?
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Why does this thing remind of Ricardo Mantalban in Wrath of Khan?
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I really hate these dumb articles that announce "new" animals. The animals are NOT "new". They may be previously undiscovered, but they didn't magically just appear.
Their classification may be new. Their specie name may be new.
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Since EVERYthing with hair is a direct descendant of man...
This just in! 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population.
...for providing a great name for the next release. We were going to go with *zit-faced swamp-donkey*.
This species is so different, from other Crustacean's that it was classified with a new Family name: Kiwaida.
Two mistakes in this sentence. No comma is necessary. The comma in this sentence interrupts the normal flow. And of course, the ever-present apostrophe on a plural word. I'm sure that there were lots of submissions on this news, couldn't the editors have picked one that approximated proper English?
Unfortunately for the Kiwaida, the AP is already using this blind creature and a salad plate in the same sentence.
They're f'morons.
The animal is white and 15 centimeters (5.9 inches) long -- about the size of a salad plate
5.9 inches? all of them, even the babies are 5.9 inches? None are larger or smaller, they're ALL exactly 15cm? Six inches is what, sixteen cm?
Aren't most salad plates a tad larger than six^h^h^5.9 inches?
I'm starting to believe you need to take an IQ test to get a job on a newspaper. If you score over 90, you fail.
This will make an great bisque to go along with that bearded clam.
And the Goblet of Butter
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Can lobsters get crabs?
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I, for one, welcome our new Crustacen Overlords!
They should have written this article after lunch... AFTER lunch!
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I for one welcome our new...
The animal is white and 15 centimeters (5.9 inches) long -- about the size of a salad plate.
The important question is, will there be enough room for a little dish of melted butter?
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Isn't there some sort of minimal number of finds before a new family and genus can be determined?
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I thought regular lobsters were ugly, but I'm gonna have to rethink that. These hairly lobsters are truly fugly.
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Given that the thing is mostly blind I'd speculate that the "hairs" are for detecting food (prey).
Something tickles a couple of "hairs", the lobster tries to grab & eat. Something disturbs all/most/a lot of them, lobster realizes its either moving water or too big to eat and doesn't react.
But IANAMB (marine biologist) so I'm making shit up as I go along.
Question everything
A word of advice: don't just say to a co-worker, "Hey, have you seen the fuzzy lobster?" You might end up talking to the ombudsman about sexual harassment...
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sorry.
Anyone else notice the tagging beta line as:
lobster, crustacean, salad, food (tagging beta)
Do you really think this lobster really wanted to be discovered?
The first action the hairy-palmed lobster took on being captured was to ask for broadband, the best lure for its natural prey - internet prawn.
adapted from Strong Bad's famous family recipe:
Ingredients:
3 or 7 medium sized Hairy Lobsters
2 salt
40 pancakes
Instructions:
Get down off smokestack. Then cook that
ugly thing.
(NOTE: For best results, dip the Hairy Lobster in egg wash before shaving or else he'll get those red shaving bumpies all over him. Ugh.)
Cheers,
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Here, there is no eye, there is only a membrane. This suggests one of two possibilities. Either it has existed in conditions where light would serve no purpose for FAR longer than the "blind" fish - such that the eye has devolved completely, or it predates the evolution of the eye entirely.
This may be testable. It's believed this new crustacean is a new species, but the only real test for this would be to run a DNA test and compare it against known crustacean DNA types. This would also give a good indication of how ancient the species is, as we'd then know how much junk DNA there was and if/when it split off from any other known species.
Talking of DNA, there have been a lot of new species discovered recently, but I've not heard of much DNA work being done and there are still VERY few species in any of the online DNA databases I've seen. I can't help but feel that this is an area of work that isn't being utilized as much as it could be. Sure, it's not cheap, but the masses of DNA sequencing labs that have sprouted up for genealogical DNA work can't possibly be getting enough orders to keep running. There must surely be some way of tapping into existing resources that would bring the cost of the work down to affordable levels.
But, then, maybe not. Absolute production-line marker recognition of one Y chromosome and mDNA of a well-known species over a very narrow time-frame is relatively trivial compared to charting actual base-pairs and chromosomes over an unmapped type of DNA for a species of uncertain classification, where the nearest point of reference might be anywhere from very recent to a few hundred million years apart.
Even so, DNA research for species identification must surely be an area that could supplement the income of such labs, the equipment would only need to be able to do enough work to produce preliminary results of some sort, the promotional value can't hurt, and it would give researchers something more than "it looks really different" to go by.
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Lobster stick to velcro!
I fully accept that they might not have the know-how, and for all I know might well be saturated with what work they do have, but it seems to me that archaeological DNA studies and genealogical DNA can only be so big of a market, which means they might well be interested in going where no biotech lab has gone before.
I also know it does, from time to time, get done - dolphins and whales around New Zealand and Australia have been studied genetically for a while - with the consequence that genetically distinct (but physiologically near-identical) species have been discovered from such work. I guess that it's examples like that that make me think that we could discover so much more through DNA analysis. If Australia and New Zealand can almost double the known species through such work, the potential impact of such studies elsewhere could be staggering.
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Shouldn't the editors here do their job and edit the posts (fix the grammar, spelling, etc.)?
If we could just get this Hairy Lobster into a Harry Potter, we could have dinner.
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they also found it holding a comb!
Well the thing is that most girls (even blondes) have intelligent DNA in them. The problem is that they tend to spit it out.
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I know people say -iday, but I learned recently (actually in a class outlining the ICZN, which I admit, I own) that it's incorrect.
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I agree that it is nice to organize organisms like that, and it makes it a lot easier for me, but there are many problems with that system. I do have experience with invertebrates as well as vertebrates, and I also teach about them. We use terminology such as "Chondrichthyes" and things like that, but referring to those as classes becomes kind of complicated. Are Chondrichthyes equivalent on some level to Osteichthyes? What about the lungfish, are they a separate class, or part of Osteichthyes? We have phylum Craniata, but what do we call actual vertebrates? Is that an order or superorder, or what? It seems that a lot of scientists are getting weary of differentiating everything based on supposedly "equivalent" levels, and simply saying "Hadrosauridae" or "Hadrosaurinae" works fine, without mentioning the level (though from the suffix in this case the original perception is apparent.) Nesting groups will always be around, like you said, but the types of hierarchical levels appear to be losing favor in many of the readings I'm familiar with. Hell, when it gets down to an argument between, "is it an infra-order or a super-order?" you know things are going too far. Can you name all the levels for any one species of insect (presumably what you're working on?) And I mean all the sub-, infra-, and super- of every level possible. They don't all have those, and that's where it gets weird. These levels are losing their meaning, though very generally, perhaps they do get the point across to a lot of introductory students.
They could have at least classified it as a Zoidberg!
Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)
or an attempt at mod-point humour (the same way a funny post might be marked informative), or the user ate some of the crustacean and discovered it was hallucinogenic.
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The scientists made up the whole story just so Slashdotters could fool around with jokes about the hairy lobster and the bearded clam.
Most comments fall in one of these categories:
- jokes about people who have seen but never touched the hairy clam
- people commenting on the clam not being hairy but "bearded"
- people in disbelief who have just today found out about both the lobster the clam
- complaint about the salad plate being the new unit of area
- people wanting to know how soon this will be available the local seafood market
- guys who always wanted a pet with long blonde hair
... with 25 (sorry 26) slashdot accounts.
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Let's see...off the top of my head... Eukaryota:Animalia:Invertebrata:Arthropoda:Unirami a:Hexapoda:Insecta:Neoptera:Polyphaga:Coleoptera:C hrysomelidae:Chrysomelinae:Ceratoma trifurcata
These are the units that have been most useful to me (I know I'm missing a few, but again these are group names that have been useful to me). Not necessarily for my study of bean leaf beetles but for the biological relationships that are represented by these levels of organization. I agree that most of these terms are useless for most people. When I think of the Neoptera I think of a more modern group of insects that are able to do a lot of cool things just because they can fold their wings horizontally over their bodies -- a luxury that the Paleoptera do not have. However, If I started talking about the Uniramia at a field day at a research farm, I would get a lot of blank stares from growers and someone would probably yell out, "who cares". However, start talking about different families of insects: Noctuidae, Aphidae, and Chrysomelidae and they will be a little more interested. So, again, I think it is a matter of what is more useful to you, but I would guard against dismissing all higher level classification just because it's old and doesn't fit well across the board. I think as we understand more about the way things relate at lower-level classifications that the higher-level classification will sort itself out -- but we are a long way from that still.
It isn't so much that I care about what level these groups are at and whether an order in the Insecta is equivalent to the Order Rodentia in mammals, but if (as in the article) your going to assign a name to something and claim that it belongs to some group, then you should spell it right! That was my point.
By the way, English Porter (particularly St. Peter's Old English Porter) must be the beer of the gods!!
At was _that_ supposed to mean?
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