Yeah, punching kids in the head [mountainsageblog.com] really hurts their "feelings".
Last I heard, you can't really do that online. Until we perfect holodeck technology, I don't see that changing.
Fire with fire. Name the people that did this so that they'll have to live with the consequences of their actions, hoping that their potential employers won't put their names into google or find their facebook entries.
Sounds good to me. Just keep the legal system out of it.
Sure, but what's that got to do with the price of egss?
So is contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
Equally irrelevant, but even more so when the "suspects" are themselves minors.
Stalking.
Not an issue here.
Hell, if the kids said to each other, online or otherwise, "lets try to get her to kill herself" then you can bump up to conspiracy to commit murder.
How so? If I say to you "let's see if we can get Bill to say bad and inaccurate things about someone", am I guilty of conspiracy to libel?
As sad as her death is, she's the one who chose to take that path. Outside influences may impact our decision making process, but the final call is always up to the individual. That's why the phrase "I was just following orders" is not considered a valid defense.
If someone sent you 100 postal letters per day, or organized friends to stand outside your house yelling at you, this would get the attention of law enforcement.
Once again, that's not the issue here. This isn't a case of one person constantly sending her harassing messages - it's a case of many people exercising their free-speech rights. Some of their other actions are certainly illegal, and should be prosecuted, but let's not invent new "crimes" to charge them with.
There were clearly serious problems with the physical bullying (someone threw a red bull can at her out of a car, which could cause serious injury), but there's a definite mental component when you go home to check your e-mail or whatever else and you have a ton of messages saying that you're a whore and everyone hates you.
Apparently you've never looked at the way the mass media reports on celebrities.
Yeah, people saying bad things about you kinda sucks, but what's the alternative? Arrest people for saying "mean" things? The last thing we need is a nanny state waiting to lock us up for hurting someones feelings.
Reading through your examples, my immediate, smart-ass response is "computers fail? no shit! wow!". But, to go into a bit more detail:
What matters isn't whether or not machines fail, what matters is whether they fail at a higher or lower rate than the human equivalent. If a human operated aircraft fleet has 1 crash per 10,000 landings, and a computer operated aircraft fleet has 1 crash per 50,000 landings, then it's obviously better to rely on the computers.
You can list all the nightmare accidents you want, and it won't change a thing. I can, likewise, list off dozens of examples of humans doing really stupid things which lead to a large number of deaths. Anecdotal evidence is useless - let's have a look at the statistics.
If there was any money to be made in building mass rail transit, you can bet your ass that GM would be all over it. Unfortunately, conspiratards often fail to realize that their own pet "ideas" are either just as ineffective as the accepted solutions, or even more so. Public transit isn't unpopular because of any conspiracy - it's unpopular because it sucks.
Seriously? Toyota — the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace — can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously? Good luck with that.
Please. How many cases of "unintended acceleration" have there been? 30? 50? Hell, let's be generous and say 500. Out of 4 million vehicles. In comparison, the US has roughly 6 MILLION accidents per year, more than 80% of which are a result of human error. More than a million people are killed world-wide in traffic accidents every year, and another FIFTY million are injured. And you're worried about an electronic failure rate of 0.01%? Talk about ass-backward priorities!
The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.
Maybe, just maybe he can work to get us better food supplies and get rid of Monsanto et al, and improve the world a little bit with all this attention?
Well he'd HAVE to be the messiah in order to accomplish two diametrically opposed goals.
Reported crime is very different from low level intimidation by welfare bred chav thugs who know exactly how far they can push it before they will get in serious trouble, which is what I was talking about
In other words, you're a coward who's scared shitless of everyone around him, and you get your kicks out of whining on slashdot. Well, as long as you're willing to admit that, I guess I can't really argue with you.
Well done. You could also have pointed out that the Machine Gun wasn't invented by the French, but even without that you managed to make him look like a complete tool.
I wish you did not use this phrase. I lived in the immediate area within 40 miles radius, and yes, I had relatives and friends die from pancreatic cancer and leukemia in the years following.
I read your initial comment, so I was quite aware that you were much closer to the scene than the average person. However, being near a disaster doesn't mean that you know anything about it. You may as well suggest that having been in the WTC on 9/11 would somehow makes you an expert on aircraft crashes and building design. I'm not trying to belittle what you went through; I'm just pointing out that it doesn't necessarily make you any more knowledgeable than the average person.
Oh, and my entire previous comment was supposed to be a joke. I guess it didn't really come across right.
Having survived Chernobyl it gives me a great fear if such reactor runs Windows. We will all be glowing in a dark after that blue screen....
Clearly you know very little about the Chernobyl disaster. If the people responsible for it had been forced to put up with 1,000,000 "Allow or Deny" requests, they would have never managed to disable enough safety devices to make the reactor fail. "Security through annoyance" wins again!
I'm no audiophile, but even I can tell that the PA speakers used in those situations sound like total crap.
That might be the norm if you live in downtown Kinshasa. Here in North America - and in most of Europe - decent DJ gear produces much better sound than anything you have in your house.
Of course, if you're basing your estimates on the gear at the local strip-joint, you're probably right. I suggest going to places that don't cater to wasted, lonely old saps.
But compare that price drop with price drop of the CD player. I think you could argue that the savings in terms of reproduction costs, recording costs, packaging, etc. have not been passed on to the CD cost the way they were for the CD player.
The major costs of a CD player are development and materials. The major costs of CD albums are promotion and marketing. You can't really compare the two.
I agree that their business model is retarded, but it's silly to compare two completely different types of products. Otherwise, why stop with CD's? If you expect technology to provide a 80% price reduction, then you may as well bitch about milk not being 30 cents per gallon.
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When even a guy called Gandhi is telling you to STFU, you know you're right the fuck out of 'er.
We did not choose it? You might want to do a little studying about the "peace" conditions imposed on Germany after World War 1.
By the same logic, women deserve to get raped because they wear skimpy clothing.
You got it exactly right. War isn't a game. The less fair we can make it, the better.
Yeah, punching kids in the head [mountainsageblog.com] really hurts their "feelings".
Last I heard, you can't really do that online. Until we perfect holodeck technology, I don't see that changing.
Fire with fire. Name the people that did this so that they'll have to live with the consequences of their actions, hoping that their potential employers won't put their names into google or find their facebook entries.
Sounds good to me. Just keep the legal system out of it.
Mind you most folks don't know about that either, and the people who moved the studios are long dead.
I certainly don't. Can you provide some information/links to justify that "insightful" mod which you're getting? :)
Harassment is a crime in some jurisdictions.
Sure, but what's that got to do with the price of egss?
So is contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
Equally irrelevant, but even more so when the "suspects" are themselves minors.
Stalking.
Not an issue here.
Hell, if the kids said to each other, online or otherwise, "lets try to get her to kill herself" then you can bump up to conspiracy to commit murder.
How so? If I say to you "let's see if we can get Bill to say bad and inaccurate things about someone", am I guilty of conspiracy to libel?
As sad as her death is, she's the one who chose to take that path. Outside influences may impact our decision making process, but the final call is always up to the individual. That's why the phrase "I was just following orders" is not considered a valid defense.
If someone sent you 100 postal letters per day, or organized friends to stand outside your house yelling at you, this would get the attention of law enforcement.
Once again, that's not the issue here. This isn't a case of one person constantly sending her harassing messages - it's a case of many people exercising their free-speech rights. Some of their other actions are certainly illegal, and should be prosecuted, but let's not invent new "crimes" to charge them with.
There were clearly serious problems with the physical bullying (someone threw a red bull can at her out of a car, which could cause serious injury), but there's a definite mental component when you go home to check your e-mail or whatever else and you have a ton of messages saying that you're a whore and everyone hates you.
Apparently you've never looked at the way the mass media reports on celebrities.
Yeah, people saying bad things about you kinda sucks, but what's the alternative? Arrest people for saying "mean" things? The last thing we need is a nanny state waiting to lock us up for hurting someones feelings.
Because he is courageous enough to reject $1m. Are you?
No, but I'm so heroic I've managed to reject the temptation to sleep with Natalie Portman. That's WAY more heroic!
Reading through your examples, my immediate, smart-ass response is "computers fail? no shit! wow!". But, to go into a bit more detail:
What matters isn't whether or not machines fail, what matters is whether they fail at a higher or lower rate than the human equivalent. If a human operated aircraft fleet has 1 crash per 10,000 landings, and a computer operated aircraft fleet has 1 crash per 50,000 landings, then it's obviously better to rely on the computers.
You can list all the nightmare accidents you want, and it won't change a thing. I can, likewise, list off dozens of examples of humans doing really stupid things which lead to a large number of deaths. Anecdotal evidence is useless - let's have a look at the statistics.
Perhaps the complexity of the system you are advocating has escaped you.
Not at all. Self-landing aircraft are pretty complex, too. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
So yes, I'm worried about a failure rate of 0.01% in the software currently in use.
I know you are, which is rather the point: your concern is entirely irrational.
Both heavy and light rail networks are popping up and being rejuvenated all across the US right now, actually.
So are perpetual motion machines. Both have roughly the same ROI, so I'm not surprised that GM isn't interested in either.
If there was any money to be made in building mass rail transit, you can bet your ass that GM would be all over it. Unfortunately, conspiratards often fail to realize that their own pet "ideas" are either just as ineffective as the accepted solutions, or even more so. Public transit isn't unpopular because of any conspiracy - it's unpopular because it sucks.
Seriously? Toyota — the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace — can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously? Good luck with that.
Please. How many cases of "unintended acceleration" have there been? 30? 50? Hell, let's be generous and say 500. Out of 4 million vehicles. In comparison, the US has roughly 6 MILLION accidents per year, more than 80% of which are a result of human error. More than a million people are killed world-wide in traffic accidents every year, and another FIFTY million are injured. And you're worried about an electronic failure rate of 0.01%? Talk about ass-backward priorities!
The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.
No, but I can block you for being a moron who didn't read the article I linked to.
Wow, two failures in one sentence! Better slow down before you hurt yourself ...
Maybe, just maybe he can work to get us better food supplies and get rid of Monsanto et al, and improve the world a little bit with all this attention?
Well he'd HAVE to be the messiah in order to accomplish two diametrically opposed goals.
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You know, this is the first time I've seen the "Offtopic" mod used correctly.
Reported crime is very different from low level intimidation by welfare bred chav thugs who know exactly how far they can push it before they will get in serious trouble, which is what I was talking about
In other words, you're a coward who's scared shitless of everyone around him, and you get your kicks out of whining on slashdot. Well, as long as you're willing to admit that, I guess I can't really argue with you.
Well done. You could also have pointed out that the Machine Gun wasn't invented by the French, but even without that you managed to make him look like a complete tool.
I wish you did not use this phrase. I lived in the immediate area within 40 miles radius, and yes, I had relatives and friends die from pancreatic cancer and leukemia in the years following.
I read your initial comment, so I was quite aware that you were much closer to the scene than the average person. However, being near a disaster doesn't mean that you know anything about it. You may as well suggest that having been in the WTC on 9/11 would somehow makes you an expert on aircraft crashes and building design. I'm not trying to belittle what you went through; I'm just pointing out that it doesn't necessarily make you any more knowledgeable than the average person.
Oh, and my entire previous comment was supposed to be a joke. I guess it didn't really come across right.
Having survived Chernobyl it gives me a great fear if such reactor runs Windows. We will all be glowing in a dark after that blue screen....
Clearly you know very little about the Chernobyl disaster. If the people responsible for it had been forced to put up with 1,000,000 "Allow or Deny" requests, they would have never managed to disable enough safety devices to make the reactor fail. "Security through annoyance" wins again!
Why do they always have to be villains? Tony Stark wasn't a villain.
Sure he was. He repeatedly broke the Laws of Physics. We would have locked him away ages ago if that damn suit of his didn't make him invincible.
Guys, how many times do I have to tell you ... "-1, Troll" is NOT a replacement for "-1, Idiot". You can't mod people down for being stupid.
louder != better
That's the first thing you've managed to get right so far. Good job!
I'm no audiophile, but even I can tell that the PA speakers used in those situations sound like total crap.
That might be the norm if you live in downtown Kinshasa. Here in North America - and in most of Europe - decent DJ gear produces much better sound than anything you have in your house.
Of course, if you're basing your estimates on the gear at the local strip-joint, you're probably right. I suggest going to places that don't cater to wasted, lonely old saps.
But compare that price drop with price drop of the CD player. I think you could argue that the savings in terms of reproduction costs, recording costs, packaging, etc. have not been passed on to the CD cost the way they were for the CD player.
The major costs of a CD player are development and materials. The major costs of CD albums are promotion and marketing. You can't really compare the two.
I agree that their business model is retarded, but it's silly to compare two completely different types of products. Otherwise, why stop with CD's? If you expect technology to provide a 80% price reduction, then you may as well bitch about milk not being 30 cents per gallon.