that's a pretty absolute assertion. are you sure that there wouldn't be some people who'd show up and learn something?
but i do agree to some extent. this is the kind of stuff that needs to go into a teenager's mandatory education, so that by the time they're adults they'll know better ways to manage their kids. Or at the very least they'll be aware that there is a better way, and perhaps that'll motivate them to show up for a refresher course.
you assume i am a FLOSS "zealot" which i'm not. i'm just someone who thinks it's worth pointing out pointless bigotry for what it is. perhaps someone can flame me as a "zealot" for that.
it doesnt "put the lie" to anything. as always, there are so many independant factors involved in who paid what and why and so much missing information here that all of this slashdot thread is just speculation.
you cant draw any conclusions from this sample size of 1 album, and you certainly can't comment on the motivations or intent of the downloaders. perhaps some of them were just trying the album to see if they liked it. perhaps some are waiting to buy the CD.
and what exactly is a "slashdotter"? presumably it's some group of people that doesn't include yourself, even though you have a fairly low UID so i would assume you have spent a lot of time visiting and posting to slashdot.
also taking something without giving anything in return is selfishness, not greed. Greed has a more specific meaning which doesn't make sense in this case.
because of the inertia/convenience of directX. as i understand it, it's so well polished/entrenched that developing a game on SDL/OpenGL is a significant enough amount of extra effort than just doing direct x and sacrificing the tiny mac/linux markets.
of course this is something that could change as linux becomes more prevalent and SDL matures.
so what you're saying is, the majority of r&d money is sunk into researching the manufacturing process and doing testing of the final product, rather than finding the drug in the first place. if that's true then everything i said is irrelevant.
The same should go for software. It's fine to patent a specific implementation of some code, but it's not fine for that patent to cover every conceivable way of achieving the same end result.
Surely what you're describing is copyright, not patenting. Being a granted a monopoly on a specific implementation is copyright. Regarding what you said about the drug industry - if your scheme was put in place, what would be the incentive to develop the drugs in the first place? If you come up with a cure for AIDS and start marketing it, then a month later someone comes up with a way to churn your pills out faster and cheaper, and there no possible way for you to do it more efficiently than them, they get to eat your lunch with impugnity, since you would be forbidden from emulating their process, and they arent forbidden from raping your hard earned R&D assets.
its like any other analogy - apt in certain senses, but not in others. Like any other analogy it makes the basic premise easier to comprehend, but ultimately it has to be dropped and a more direct and accurate understanding is the only way to make appropriate decisions about the best courses of action. It becomes superstition when people lose sight of the fact that "mother" nature is an analogy and they behave as if the earth cares about them. That's just unrealistic and the analogy has been stretched too far, leaving us open to poor decisions.
The only stupidity is your ignorance in thinking humanity can survive outside of the fertile lifestream that birthed it.
Well that's just the argument from personal incredulity. How do you know that given sufficient technological advancement we couldn't survive without the earth? It seems a perfectly reasonable assumption to me. How is he ignorant for imagining this possibility?
And why must authors waste their time rewriting documents (that can be years old) properly so that the afore-mentioned FOSS program/converter can convert them?
because depending on the volume of documents, it's probably better to do that, than adopt one of the other alternatives listed in the GP. an alternative to rewriting the documents, is to write open, documented extensions to ODF to accommodate the "bells and whistles", and improve the FOSS to do the conversion. Although you'd have to pay someone with the expertise to do it, it may work out cheaper than rewriting thousands of VBA macros. and once it's done once, its done forever, for everyone.
Alternatively you could just wait till some other FOSS developer does it anyway. It's never black and white and the cost of moving vs. savings due to liberation from legacy software is something specific to each situation. So your question "why should they waste their time" contains the unstated assumption that it is a waste of time for them to do it. In some cases it isn't.
by that logic, Windows with no security updates installed is better than windows with the security updates installed. i dont think you've thought it through. sure it's more complex, but it has to be to account for the holes it used to have.
Perhaps MS are making windows for XO so that they can tell governments that selling XOs with linux on is tantamount to encouraging piracy, so most XOs will end up with pirated copies of WindowsXO on them, and thus strongarm the Governments into only buying XOs with Windows pre installed.
kind of ass-backwards logic, but it's not the least logical argument they've ever used to support their monopoly position.
At worst windows wouldn't boot at all. At best it would boot into safe mode, and you would have to either have another machine, or hope networking support would be working enough to hunt around and download all the various drivers you'd need for your new hardware.
The thing that linux is doing that is impossible for windows, is to just swap the hard disc out of one machine to another without having to consider finding and installing new drivers. barring the one minor hiccup that you're decrying, it just works. Fair enough, editing config on the CLI is not user friendly, but it only happened one brand of hardware, and now that hiccup has been removed as an obstacle to casual users.
That's great, but what took so long?
pouting doesn't stop it invalidating your position
i find a good combo is AVG, Comodo, Spywareblaster and Spybot. It doesn't seem to have much impact on performance.
Also, if you're installing for PEBKAC users, replacing IE with firefox + adblock plus + filterset.g updater extensions removes a lot of problems. And installing thunderbird and making it the default mail app to avoid them stumbling across outlook express.
the biggest PEBKAC hole left then is teenage girls and MSN Messenger. I haven't found a way round that one yet. Even installing Pidgin won't stop them deliberately running the pointless cack they seem obsessed with sending to each other.
being behind a router is a good away to ameliorate accidentally connecting without a firewall running.
you're totally missing the point. in windows that wouldn't have even been an option. he performed a feat with linux that would be totally impossible with windows.
and also the latest version of ubuntu wouldnt even have required dropping to the CLI to sort this out. It now gives you a GUI to correct your graphics settings should the desktop fail to initialise.
Without knowing any of the specifics of your beefs with the admins on wikipedia, it's difficult to tell if your complaints are genuine, or if you were just pushing a demonstrably incorrect POV that has no legitimate citations, and are now simply crying "censorship".
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but i do agree to some extent. this is the kind of stuff that needs to go into a teenager's mandatory education, so that by the time they're adults they'll know better ways to manage their kids. Or at the very least they'll be aware that there is a better way, and perhaps that'll motivate them to show up for a refresher course.
The "zealots" are merely sticking to their principles in order to achieve a goal. Why do you feel the need to sneer at them?
you cant draw any conclusions from this sample size of 1 album, and you certainly can't comment on the motivations or intent of the downloaders. perhaps some of them were just trying the album to see if they liked it. perhaps some are waiting to buy the CD.
and what exactly is a "slashdotter"? presumably it's some group of people that doesn't include yourself, even though you have a fairly low UID so i would assume you have spent a lot of time visiting and posting to slashdot.
also taking something without giving anything in return is selfishness, not greed. Greed has a more specific meaning which doesn't make sense in this case.
of course this is something that could change as linux becomes more prevalent and SDL matures.
unless it's apocryphal, i read somewhere that defender was the first game to have a gameworld larger than the size of the screen.
so what you're saying is, the majority of r&d money is sunk into researching the manufacturing process and doing testing of the final product, rather than finding the drug in the first place. if that's true then everything i said is irrelevant.
i would agree with all of that.
i meant implementation of software. ie, the copyright on your code.
Surely what you're describing is copyright, not patenting. Being a granted a monopoly on a specific implementation is copyright. Regarding what you said about the drug industry - if your scheme was put in place, what would be the incentive to develop the drugs in the first place? If you come up with a cure for AIDS and start marketing it, then a month later someone comes up with a way to churn your pills out faster and cheaper, and there no possible way for you to do it more efficiently than them, they get to eat your lunch with impugnity, since you would be forbidden from emulating their process, and they arent forbidden from raping your hard earned R&D assets.
do you honestly believe that the presence of botnets nullifies the benefits of a free and open internet?
it is a bit of an odd remark. my pc is a 1ghz athlon with 512mb and that runs ubuntu feisty perfectly.
except cohen bought utorrent and adopted it as the official client. a lot of windows users use utorrent, so that argument doesnt really stand.
The only stupidity is your ignorance in thinking humanity can survive outside of the fertile lifestream that birthed it.
Well that's just the argument from personal incredulity. How do you know that given sufficient technological advancement we couldn't survive without the earth? It seems a perfectly reasonable assumption to me. How is he ignorant for imagining this possibility?
because depending on the volume of documents, it's probably better to do that, than adopt one of the other alternatives listed in the GP. an alternative to rewriting the documents, is to write open, documented extensions to ODF to accommodate the "bells and whistles", and improve the FOSS to do the conversion. Although you'd have to pay someone with the expertise to do it, it may work out cheaper than rewriting thousands of VBA macros. and once it's done once, its done forever, for everyone.
Alternatively you could just wait till some other FOSS developer does it anyway. It's never black and white and the cost of moving vs. savings due to liberation from legacy software is something specific to each situation. So your question "why should they waste their time" contains the unstated assumption that it is a waste of time for them to do it. In some cases it isn't.
by that logic, Windows with no security updates installed is better than windows with the security updates installed. i dont think you've thought it through. sure it's more complex, but it has to be to account for the holes it used to have.
kind of ass-backwards logic, but it's not the least logical argument they've ever used to support their monopoly position.
The thing that linux is doing that is impossible for windows, is to just swap the hard disc out of one machine to another without having to consider finding and installing new drivers. barring the one minor hiccup that you're decrying, it just works. Fair enough, editing config on the CLI is not user friendly, but it only happened one brand of hardware, and now that hiccup has been removed as an obstacle to casual users.
That's great, but what took so long?
pouting doesn't stop it invalidating your position
Also, if you're installing for PEBKAC users, replacing IE with firefox + adblock plus + filterset.g updater extensions removes a lot of problems. And installing thunderbird and making it the default mail app to avoid them stumbling across outlook express.
the biggest PEBKAC hole left then is teenage girls and MSN Messenger. I haven't found a way round that one yet. Even installing Pidgin won't stop them deliberately running the pointless cack they seem obsessed with sending to each other.
being behind a router is a good away to ameliorate accidentally connecting without a firewall running.
it used to annoy me as well till i found that option.
and also the latest version of ubuntu wouldnt even have required dropping to the CLI to sort this out. It now gives you a GUI to correct your graphics settings should the desktop fail to initialise.
yeah but you can consume anything you like at will, even if you ignore the rest. its about having access to anything, not access to everything
you spastic
what i meant was, which article? what were the edits? just curious..
which is ironically recursive...