Whose throat is it being forced down? Are you being forced to conduct stem cell research at knife point?
My understanding is that non-embryonic stem cells are already partially differentiated, which means they have less potential abilities. There is nothing wrong with experimentation on them as far as I am concerned, and despite your implication resources are put there. But that is irrelevant, since there are properties of embryonic stem cells that are not present in the non-embryonic cells, and this is the whole crux of wanting to conduct research specifically on embryonic cells.
Why must we clone human embryonic tissue (read: humans) in order to create something we can achieve through other means that won't piss anyone off?
Who says we can acheive it through other means? We dont even know what we're going to find yet so how can you assert that it can be found elsewhere? I'd rather potantially find a cure for parkinsons disease than "avoid pissing people off". Pissing people off is pretty feeble excuse for not trying to do something so incredibly important.
Anticipating some of your further arguments, of course using humans for terminal experiments against their will is utterly unethical and i personally find the very idea abhorrent in the extreme, but the simple fact of the matter is if you eliminate superstition that stem cells have no feelings, conciousness, or will. No human is hurt, tormented or killed by stem cell research. There is no rational reason to oppose doing it, and the people who have irrational reasons try to bolster their superstitions with flimsy "real-world" arguments that dont hold any water, such as the stuff you came out with about the adult cells.
you're presenting a load of ridiculous extremes as a straw man.
You dont have to know at what point it becomes a person to have some kind of sensible cutoff point to stop experimentation / abortion. All you have to determine is some point at which everyone agrees it IS NOT yet a person. There is no rational point in saying any cell that contains human DNA is a human, because every time i get my hair cut i dont leave a tangled mess of humans on the barber's floor.
A single cell has no feelings and no conciousness. A human/animal hybrid cell has NO potential to become a viable embryo so you cant even use that questionable logic to argue that you're denying it any future.
" The same could be said about all layers of matter until you reach the surface."
no it couldnt. each time you moved up a layer, you would be increasing the amount of mass on one side of you and reducing the amount on the other side, thereby gradually increasing the amount of acceleration in one particular direction you would experience due to gravity, ie. your weight.
you just drowned any salient points you had in an inane childish rant. *clap... clap... clap...* that's the way to convince people to use free software.
"Also, is there a way we can keep words like, "nipple" from showing up in the Captcha graphic when the story is about U18 kids?"
yes because if a child sees the word nipple, he is instantly sexually traumatised, and will either spend his adult life in therapy, or become a serial rapist cannibal.
you know how the operating system loads up application and processes and whatnot and assigns them resources, and terminates them? well a virtualization server does the same thing to Operating Systems. It's like you can "multitask" one or more operating systems. so you could run linux and windows at the same time and switch between them. It also means you can have an "image" of a say windows system, which is "cloned" from disk into a new virtual machine when it is run, then when it exits, the virtual machine is discarded and the disk image is still excatly as it was when you start it up the next time. obviously this is a bunch of oversimplification, so it's best to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualization
I agree. How would a 3D environment make finding information of the web easier, or quicker? Novelty alone is not going to make this take off. Surely if this was a viable visualisation and navigation model for the type of content you find on the web, it would have been exploited (significantly and succesfully) as a desktop metaphor years ago.
well i run linux, and i dont find this funny at all. windows botnets are a fucking nuisance to EVERYONE. Running mac os x or linux wont stop you receiving spam emails, or stop a website you need to use being DDOSed.
that's what the catholic church believes. that idea cant be a scientific theory though, as its not falsifiable, so it falls into religious beliefs. taking it to it's logical extreme, you could argue that god set up the big bang, and all natural phenomena that occured since occured on their own, but the physical laws were divised by god to eventually produce the world as it is today. christian fundamentalists won't generally accept explanations like that, because if you read the bible literally, everything happened in 6 days 6000 years ago. perhaps you could argue that the "days" arent literal days, but epochs marked by god intervening to shape a particular aspect of our world, but that again would be untestable conjecture, and as such is not a scientific theory.
"Well, if you think about it, there are only two choices: Creation or Evolution. There is no third possibility. "
don't forget the false dilemma fallacy. just because all the evidence we've seen so far points to evolution as the creator of mankind, doesnt mean that further evidence wont show up that suggests a different as yet unimagined mechanism.
you cant try to rubbish evolution to prove creationism. even if it turns out evolutionary theory is one giant mistake, that wont prove creationism is true.
I just installed it on win2k and i have to say the default theme has thin, grimy icons, and naff looking half assed glass effects on the tabs. YUCK YUCK YUCK. and there are only 10 themes on the mozilla themes page that are compatible with 2.0, and they're all shit. The least hideous is the opera rip off, but even that is still crapper than the 1.5 default theme. I hope someone makes a theme for it that reverts it back to the 1.5 look and feel.
it would be nice to install RC3, but the download page http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/all-rc.htm l just links to 1.5.0.7 even though it is supposed to be 2.0RC3. I tried the us and uk english versions and they're both 1.5.0.7. The same thing happened when i tried to install RC2 a week ago.
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Whose throat is it being forced down? Are you being forced to conduct stem cell research at knife point?
My understanding is that non-embryonic stem cells are already partially differentiated, which means they have less potential abilities. There is nothing wrong with experimentation on them as far as I am concerned, and despite your implication resources are put there. But that is irrelevant, since there are properties of embryonic stem cells that are not present in the non-embryonic cells, and this is the whole crux of wanting to conduct research specifically on embryonic cells.
Why must we clone human embryonic tissue (read: humans) in order to create something we can achieve through other means that won't piss anyone off?
Who says we can acheive it through other means? We dont even know what we're going to find yet so how can you assert that it can be found elsewhere? I'd rather potantially find a cure for parkinsons disease than "avoid pissing people off". Pissing people off is pretty feeble excuse for not trying to do something so incredibly important.
Anticipating some of your further arguments, of course using humans for terminal experiments against their will is utterly unethical and i personally find the very idea abhorrent in the extreme, but the simple fact of the matter is if you eliminate superstition that stem cells have no feelings, conciousness, or will. No human is hurt, tormented or killed by stem cell research. There is no rational reason to oppose doing it, and the people who have irrational reasons try to bolster their superstitions with flimsy "real-world" arguments that dont hold any water, such as the stuff you came out with about the adult cells.
you're presenting a load of ridiculous extremes as a straw man.
You dont have to know at what point it becomes a person to have some kind of sensible cutoff point to stop experimentation / abortion. All you have to determine is some point at which everyone agrees it IS NOT yet a person. There is no rational point in saying any cell that contains human DNA is a human, because every time i get my hair cut i dont leave a tangled mess of humans on the barber's floor.
A single cell has no feelings and no conciousness. A human/animal hybrid cell has NO potential to become a viable embryo so you cant even use that questionable logic to argue that you're denying it any future.
this one freak incident obviously means the ENTIRE project is utterly worthless. oh well, delete it all.
That heavenly STENCH!!!!
1978 was approximately the moment music imploded into a singularity, then exploded back outwards into the shower of shit it is today. :p
1..2..3..4.. That's the same combination I have on my luggage!
so how come we had free gif and mpeg implementations for all those years? what did they do to get round it?
to kill red hat, who are a far more viable competitor teh register's take on this
red hat are reeling from the oracle stunt, now MS are putting the boot in. i imagine they'll keep kicking till they dont get up.
" The same could be said about all layers of matter until you reach the surface."
no it couldnt. each time you moved up a layer, you would be increasing the amount of mass on one side of you and reducing the amount on the other side, thereby gradually increasing the amount of acceleration in one particular direction you would experience due to gravity, ie. your weight.
this is total unsubstantiated hearsay, but isnt tab mix supposed to be a buggy hacky nightmare?
how hot do you think you'd look sitting in starbucks all day programming on your laptop? i don't think she'd be impressed. :p
i dont know how he could have been more obvious about it
I've been running RC3 for a week or so, and if you go to help->about it just reports itself as Firefox 2.0, whereas RC2 reported itself as 2.0RC2
I think they must have been confident RC3 was going to be it!
you just drowned any salient points you had in an inane childish rant. *clap... clap... clap...* that's the way to convince people to use free software.
"Also, is there a way we can keep words like, "nipple" from showing up in the Captcha graphic when the story is about U18 kids?" yes because if a child sees the word nipple, he is instantly sexually traumatised, and will either spend his adult life in therapy, or become a serial rapist cannibal.
you know how the operating system loads up application and processes and whatnot and assigns them resources, and terminates them? well a virtualization server does the same thing to Operating Systems. It's like you can "multitask" one or more operating systems. so you could run linux and windows at the same time and switch between them. It also means you can have an "image" of a say windows system, which is "cloned" from disk into a new virtual machine when it is run, then when it exits, the virtual machine is discarded and the disk image is still excatly as it was when you start it up the next time. obviously this is a bunch of oversimplification, so it's best to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualization
both of which things?
I agree. How would a 3D environment make finding information of the web easier, or quicker? Novelty alone is not going to make this take off. Surely if this was a viable visualisation and navigation model for the type of content you find on the web, it would have been exploited (significantly and succesfully) as a desktop metaphor years ago.
well i run linux, and i dont find this funny at all. windows botnets are a fucking nuisance to EVERYONE. Running mac os x or linux wont stop you receiving spam emails, or stop a website you need to use being DDOSed.
that's what the catholic church believes. that idea cant be a scientific theory though, as its not falsifiable, so it falls into religious beliefs. taking it to it's logical extreme, you could argue that god set up the big bang, and all natural phenomena that occured since occured on their own, but the physical laws were divised by god to eventually produce the world as it is today. christian fundamentalists won't generally accept explanations like that, because if you read the bible literally, everything happened in 6 days 6000 years ago. perhaps you could argue that the "days" arent literal days, but epochs marked by god intervening to shape a particular aspect of our world, but that again would be untestable conjecture, and as such is not a scientific theory.
"Well, if you think about it, there are only two choices: Creation or Evolution. There is no third possibility. "
don't forget the false dilemma fallacy. just because all the evidence we've seen so far points to evolution as the creator of mankind, doesnt mean that further evidence wont show up that suggests a different as yet unimagined mechanism.
you cant try to rubbish evolution to prove creationism. even if it turns out evolutionary theory is one giant mistake, that wont prove creationism is true.
why is that modded insightful? how do we know it's an insight? the tone of the statement strikes me as being plucked out of his ass.
I just installed it on win2k and i have to say the default theme has thin, grimy icons, and naff looking half assed glass effects on the tabs. YUCK YUCK YUCK. and there are only 10 themes on the mozilla themes page that are compatible with 2.0, and they're all shit. The least hideous is the opera rip off, but even that is still crapper than the 1.5 default theme. I hope someone makes a theme for it that reverts it back to the 1.5 look and feel.
It appears you have to have javascript enabled, otherwise you get redirected to the 1.5.0.7 page. That's that mystery solved.
it would be nice to install RC3, but the download page http://www.mozilla.org/projects/bonecho/all-rc.htm l just links to 1.5.0.7 even though it is supposed to be 2.0RC3. I tried the us and uk english versions and they're both 1.5.0.7. The same thing happened when i tried to install RC2 a week ago.