Am I missing something here? I really hope you're kidding. Some of those games haven't even been released yet and they can't even TOUCH the anticipation and quality of Halo. I'll admit I love the Xbox, but I'm still waiting for a good reason to spend 400 dollars on the new one.
Yeah, I've heard from a couple of friends that pre ordered that they got their systems, but only after a few weeks of waiting after the release day. Pre-ordering will get you a system, but you don't know exactly when. I had a buddy that went to a Target and got in line really early for a 360 on release. He got one, because not everyone thinks of waiting in line at a store like target, most everyone goes and waits in line at the big electronics stores.
I guess I should have been more specific. The original poster addressed what would help pc gaming. The things I mentioned are things I have to worry about if I used my PC for games, which I rarely do. As far as missing the way things used to be, I was being nostalgic. I do love my gameboy for the exact reason you brought up!
It would also help if I didn't have to worry about spending hundreds of dollars on my pc to play the latest games, or worry about the configuration of my system to get them to work.
I think everyone's expectation about what a console has supposed to be has gone way up the older we have gotten. Remember when they were basically toys? I mean, the N.E.S. wasn't very sophisticated or polished. You put games in them, played them, perhaps had to "blow on them" to get them to work, but you had a lot of fun.
I for one, miss those days.
I suppose, my point is that it isn't impossible to take out a vehicle without a RL. It still is a lot harder, but possible. Again, that's what map control is all about.
I think I owe you my first born. I've been looking for a good PC controller and haven't found one. I play a lot of ROMs and I like the feel of a console controler in my hand and haven't been able to find one.
Didn't know you could use the 360 controller on the PC.
Agreed. Makes me think of how long it took getting used to the massive Steel Battalion controller that I (perhaps foolishly) purchased. Independent gun, view, and body movements on two joysticks and a foot pedel with gears to go forward and backward. Yikes!
That's why map control is so important in Halo. If you can get to the weapons you need and your teamates aren't idiots and lose said weapons, you'll win. Like it or not, that's how it works.
As far as RL being one of the only weapons to take out vehicles, SMGs can rip them apart like no one's business, especially the banshie. They also have weak points. One sniper shot or a few br rounds to the gray box on the side of a Ghost will blow it up in no time.
Let's not forget sticky granades or the abilty to board vehicles. If you're good at the game you can take out vehicles if you're careful and know what to do.
Yes, I play Halo too much.
I believe what you say might have had some effect, but the first Halo got extremely good reviews and it was those reviews that made me think about buying an Xbox just to play the game. Hell, when I opened up EGM back in the day and saw that Halo got 10s it was one hell of a shock to me. Seriously, I thought it was stupid that MS was going to make a console. Now, they might have f-d up the 360 (I still haven't gotten one), but they got Halo right.
As for being able to push a button and play against other people... Live didn't come out until the second Halo made it to the market. By the time the second Halo came out, so many people loved the first game that they were ecstatic (myself included) that we could play it online with the Live service. Say what you want about the superiority of PC gaming online, the live service rocks.
You can market the hell out of a lot of games, but you can't fool people into thinking a sh*tty game is good. Look at over half of EAs titles. You may not like Halo, but don't tell me that so many people love it because they saw a bunch of ads for it.
It sure as hell was "Innovative" for a console game no matter what you think about it. Halo is the benchmark for every console game released now where it used to be Goldeneye.
Now, I know PC gamers are going to scoff at this, but I'm only talking about Console FPS shooters.
Everyone seems to forget that Halo was NOT the first game to feature two analog sticks to move. The control is very similar to most Ps2 shooters that proceeded it. I remember having a tough time picking up Time Splitters because of the controls. Then when I played Halo it wasn't that hard to figure out once you had those basics down.
Somewhat related: Someone in this thread complained about zooming. Really, how hard is it to click down on a thumb button to zoom in and out?
What the hell are you talking about? I've played Halo a lot and it controls perfectly fine. Driving by pointing is surprisingly fun once you get used to it.
Lol, I have that same shirt. I use it to work out and now its kind of gross. Sorry, thought I needed to share that. I was actually surprised when they showed off the product, a slick pitchman came up to me and my friend and while they had some interesting ideas, (I like the idea of playing a PC game without having to worry if I have the latest graphics card or anything) I knew the thing wouldn't fly.
Funny thing is, this booth was all set up the SAME year I picked up a Gizmondo shirt to work out in.
I don't think of the ads as deceptive, just done poorly. Whenever I see all pre-rendered gameplay on a commercial I just figure the game sucks too much to show you actual footage. As a gamer, I've learned the hard way over the years not to trust how cool a pre-rendered video sequence looks. Its like seeing an ad for the latest movie tie in game like the Fantastic 4 one that kept showing up in the theaters. Come on now, you know that it was going to suck before you bought it!
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Am I missing something here? I really hope you're kidding. Some of those games haven't even been released yet and they can't even TOUCH the anticipation and quality of Halo. I'll admit I love the Xbox, but I'm still waiting for a good reason to spend 400 dollars on the new one.
I agree. Sony had their chance. Let the thing die and bring it back by someone else later on.
Yeah, I've heard from a couple of friends that pre ordered that they got their systems, but only after a few weeks of waiting after the release day. Pre-ordering will get you a system, but you don't know exactly when. I had a buddy that went to a Target and got in line really early for a 360 on release. He got one, because not everyone thinks of waiting in line at a store like target, most everyone goes and waits in line at the big electronics stores.
I guess I should have been more specific. The original poster addressed what would help pc gaming. The things I mentioned are things I have to worry about if I used my PC for games, which I rarely do. As far as missing the way things used to be, I was being nostalgic. I do love my gameboy for the exact reason you brought up!
It would also help if I didn't have to worry about spending hundreds of dollars on my pc to play the latest games, or worry about the configuration of my system to get them to work. I think everyone's expectation about what a console has supposed to be has gone way up the older we have gotten. Remember when they were basically toys? I mean, the N.E.S. wasn't very sophisticated or polished. You put games in them, played them, perhaps had to "blow on them" to get them to work, but you had a lot of fun. I for one, miss those days.
I suppose, my point is that it isn't impossible to take out a vehicle without a RL. It still is a lot harder, but possible. Again, that's what map control is all about.
I think I owe you my first born. I've been looking for a good PC controller and haven't found one. I play a lot of ROMs and I like the feel of a console controler in my hand and haven't been able to find one. Didn't know you could use the 360 controller on the PC.
Agreed. Makes me think of how long it took getting used to the massive Steel Battalion controller that I (perhaps foolishly) purchased. Independent gun, view, and body movements on two joysticks and a foot pedel with gears to go forward and backward. Yikes!
That's why map control is so important in Halo. If you can get to the weapons you need and your teamates aren't idiots and lose said weapons, you'll win. Like it or not, that's how it works. As far as RL being one of the only weapons to take out vehicles, SMGs can rip them apart like no one's business, especially the banshie. They also have weak points. One sniper shot or a few br rounds to the gray box on the side of a Ghost will blow it up in no time. Let's not forget sticky granades or the abilty to board vehicles. If you're good at the game you can take out vehicles if you're careful and know what to do. Yes, I play Halo too much.
I believe what you say might have had some effect, but the first Halo got extremely good reviews and it was those reviews that made me think about buying an Xbox just to play the game. Hell, when I opened up EGM back in the day and saw that Halo got 10s it was one hell of a shock to me. Seriously, I thought it was stupid that MS was going to make a console. Now, they might have f-d up the 360 (I still haven't gotten one), but they got Halo right. As for being able to push a button and play against other people... Live didn't come out until the second Halo made it to the market. By the time the second Halo came out, so many people loved the first game that they were ecstatic (myself included) that we could play it online with the Live service. Say what you want about the superiority of PC gaming online, the live service rocks. You can market the hell out of a lot of games, but you can't fool people into thinking a sh*tty game is good. Look at over half of EAs titles. You may not like Halo, but don't tell me that so many people love it because they saw a bunch of ads for it.
It sure as hell was "Innovative" for a console game no matter what you think about it. Halo is the benchmark for every console game released now where it used to be Goldeneye. Now, I know PC gamers are going to scoff at this, but I'm only talking about Console FPS shooters.
Everyone seems to forget that Halo was NOT the first game to feature two analog sticks to move. The control is very similar to most Ps2 shooters that proceeded it. I remember having a tough time picking up Time Splitters because of the controls. Then when I played Halo it wasn't that hard to figure out once you had those basics down. Somewhat related: Someone in this thread complained about zooming. Really, how hard is it to click down on a thumb button to zoom in and out?
What the hell are you talking about? I've played Halo a lot and it controls perfectly fine. Driving by pointing is surprisingly fun once you get used to it.
Lol, I have that same shirt. I use it to work out and now its kind of gross. Sorry, thought I needed to share that. I was actually surprised when they showed off the product, a slick pitchman came up to me and my friend and while they had some interesting ideas, (I like the idea of playing a PC game without having to worry if I have the latest graphics card or anything) I knew the thing wouldn't fly. Funny thing is, this booth was all set up the SAME year I picked up a Gizmondo shirt to work out in.
I don't think of the ads as deceptive, just done poorly. Whenever I see all pre-rendered gameplay on a commercial I just figure the game sucks too much to show you actual footage. As a gamer, I've learned the hard way over the years not to trust how cool a pre-rendered video sequence looks. Its like seeing an ad for the latest movie tie in game like the Fantastic 4 one that kept showing up in the theaters. Come on now, you know that it was going to suck before you bought it!
Does anyone remember the 3D0?