A mockup of an BMW is not going to excuse the studio from getting permission from BMW. It may make it cheaper, but it won't eliminate it.
The thing is, they were presenting the LV bag as a legit LV bag, explicitly using the LV brand on film. But WB knew it wasn't real, were warned it wasn't, and went ahead anyway. Now, if there was a payoff joke at the end where they go, "It's not a LV! Look! You can tell by the cross-section!" that might have worked. I dunno, not a lawyer.
Either way, the goddamn thing cost $80 mil to make and it returned $250 mil stateside. No excuse WB couldn't have dug around in a cushion for a legit bag to satiate the legal beagles. Take an olive out of every salad for Ed Helms; it worked for American Airlines...
I'm talking about trying to prevent another 9/11 attack.
At what cost though? Is it worth it in your mind for ordinary, innocent civilians to be subjected to humiliation in public like this repeatedly? What if it happened to you? Or your mother? Or a son or daughter? Stripsearched, their dignity erased by some cocky bureaucrat on a power trip?
If our freedom is worth so little to you that you must sacrifice it to the God of Security, that's just beyond pathetic. LIFE is dangerous. We used to accept that. Planes were hijacked and blown up decades prior to 9/11 and somehow we moved on without turning the X-Ray line into a farce. I'm frankly amazed we bother to do anything anymore, we're so scared by anyone who doesn't bleed stars and stripes because they CLEARLY want to blow us up and everything we hold dear.
Nope. Read the AC's post again yourself. He was arguing that random passengers WILL NOT be successful in fighting back hijackers/terrorists.
AC: The answer for 99% of America — actually, for human beings in general — is a resounding "no". We sort of like to avoid certain death. The hijackers know this statistic. They're counting on it. Odds are in their favor, in fact.
If you were in the Marines, you better not show yourself around them. They'll wonder where your balls went. Anyone too afraid to take a plane without subjecting everyone to a pre-flight colonoscopy isn't someone who belongs anywhere near our armed forces.
But they haven't capitalized on it. Given how much we overreacted last time, how much more could they accomplish with even more more successful attack?
You're looking at this the wrong way.
Remember, after 9/11, try visualizing how much patriotic "America! FUCK YEAH!!!" spirit was going around not just in the country, but worldwide.
No, bigger than that.
Still bigger.
Close enough. See, tragedy brought us together: Yankees fan and Red Sox fan, cat and dog, Democrat and Republican. And if we got attacked on as big a scale again, it would happen again, because tragedy does this to us. We would again focus on 'who did this?' and glassify something.
But they've gotten us in the waiting game. We're expecting an attack. Heck, I'd say we WANT them to attack, so we can justify all of this. But the longer they wait, the more paranoid we get. We're just dragging ourselves down with no one legitimate to blame except ourselves (but that won't happen).
Puh-lease. Al Qaeda doesn't have to do shit to us anymore. Just have someone whisper "mosque!!" and you get half the country peeing their pants.
If anyone wanted to cause megadeaths in the US, I can roll off the top of my head dozens of ways not involving airplanes or airports. Yet there hasn't been anything like that, nothing even hinting at that. You know why? Death is not what they're after. They're after terror, and they won. They won and those like you are letting them keep their victory by cowering like the little yellow bellied chickenshit you are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_(shoe_bomber) The 6 foot 4 inch (193 cm) tall, 200+ pound (90+ kg) Reid was next subdued by several passengers on the airliner, and then bound up using plastic handcuffs, seatbelt extensions, and headphone cords. A physician on board the airliner administered to Reid a tranquilizer that he found in the emergency medical kit of the airliner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwear_bomber Fellow passenger Jasper Schuringa, a Dutch film director, jumped on Abdulmutallab and subdued him as flight attendants used fire extinguishers to douse the flames.
For my third argument: United 93. I don't think you need a citation for that one.
Passenger dynamics changed. Your pseudo-psychology is over 11 years out of date.
What's perplexing is why they haven't shifted to softer targets. The TSA, overzealous as it is, makes airplanes too hard to attack, but there are millions of other, better targets.
It's not perplexing. Terrorists act by (duh) creating terror. Body count is simply a means to that end. The fact is, we've done such a great job at overcompensating, we're doing their job for them. We're still terrified. Heck, simply saying you're going to build a mosque makes half this country pee their pants!
So, no, it's not perplexing. It's not perplexing in the slightest. Even thinking it's perplexing, "Why, why haven't they killed more of us?!" is exactly why they have not done anything. They turned us all into chickenshits waiting for the next 'big one.'
They basically don't need to keep playing because they have already won.
Yeah, do that scene in Star Trek where Spock walks into the lift from one part of the ship and walks back out in another.
You know they did that in the original series, right? Without green screens. They just rotated sets while the door was closed. One of the oldest tricks in the book AND it looks even more realistic.
Thought so after the fact, but I didn't see the squiggly red line during the preview, so I left it alone. It's not like I get paid for this crap, anyway. Editors be damned, we're doing it live!
Maybe you should examine the math of airlines before you base your whole theory on the $99 round trip cattle class ticket. Once airlines are forced to actually price tickets to reflect the cost of air flight, people will start begging for rail.
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Religious people don't fear it, therefore they let nature take its course.
Of course it's natural! God told Merck how to make it!
The usual interpretation of the unusual high mortality of doctors
Doctors have the same mortality rate as lawyers, beekeepers and hobos: 100% over a long enough span.
That's what Obliviate is for! The fact you ever made it out of your first year continues to amaze me. :rollseyes:
Yeah, we're just afraid you'll all find out our dirty dirty secret that networks and computers really ARE magic.
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A mockup of an BMW is not going to excuse the studio from getting permission from BMW. It may make it cheaper, but it won't eliminate it.
The thing is, they were presenting the LV bag as a legit LV bag, explicitly using the LV brand on film. But WB knew it wasn't real, were warned it wasn't, and went ahead anyway. Now, if there was a payoff joke at the end where they go, "It's not a LV! Look! You can tell by the cross-section!" that might have worked. I dunno, not a lawyer.
Either way, the goddamn thing cost $80 mil to make and it returned $250 mil stateside. No excuse WB couldn't have dug around in a cushion for a legit bag to satiate the legal beagles. Take an olive out of every salad for Ed Helms; it worked for American Airlines...
I'm talking about trying to prevent another 9/11 attack.
At what cost though? Is it worth it in your mind for ordinary, innocent civilians to be subjected to humiliation in public like this repeatedly? What if it happened to you? Or your mother? Or a son or daughter? Stripsearched, their dignity erased by some cocky bureaucrat on a power trip?
If our freedom is worth so little to you that you must sacrifice it to the God of Security, that's just beyond pathetic. LIFE is dangerous. We used to accept that. Planes were hijacked and blown up decades prior to 9/11 and somehow we moved on without turning the X-Ray line into a farce. I'm frankly amazed we bother to do anything anymore, we're so scared by anyone who doesn't bleed stars and stripes because they CLEARLY want to blow us up and everything we hold dear.
Looks to me like you've misunderstood his post
Nope. Read the AC's post again yourself. He was arguing that random passengers WILL NOT be successful in fighting back hijackers/terrorists.
AC: The answer for 99% of America — actually, for human beings in general — is a resounding "no". We sort of like to avoid certain death.
The hijackers know this statistic. They're counting on it. Odds are in their favor, in fact.
Not anymore.
Why are you defending the Anonymous Coward?
Four guys did a good job because the passengers thought they just wanted money and safe passage to Cuba.
Passenger dynamics have changed.
If you were in the Marines, you better not show yourself around them. They'll wonder where your balls went. Anyone too afraid to take a plane without subjecting everyone to a pre-flight colonoscopy isn't someone who belongs anywhere near our armed forces.
But they haven't capitalized on it. Given how much we overreacted last time, how much more could they accomplish with even more more successful attack?
You're looking at this the wrong way.
Remember, after 9/11, try visualizing how much patriotic "America! FUCK YEAH!!!" spirit was going around not just in the country, but worldwide.
No, bigger than that.
Still bigger.
Close enough. See, tragedy brought us together: Yankees fan and Red Sox fan, cat and dog, Democrat and Republican. And if we got attacked on as big a scale again, it would happen again, because tragedy does this to us. We would again focus on 'who did this?' and glassify something.
But they've gotten us in the waiting game. We're expecting an attack. Heck, I'd say we WANT them to attack, so we can justify all of this. But the longer they wait, the more paranoid we get. We're just dragging ourselves down with no one legitimate to blame except ourselves (but that won't happen).
Puh-lease. Al Qaeda doesn't have to do shit to us anymore. Just have someone whisper "mosque!!" and you get half the country peeing their pants.
If anyone wanted to cause megadeaths in the US, I can roll off the top of my head dozens of ways not involving airplanes or airports. Yet there hasn't been anything like that, nothing even hinting at that. You know why? Death is not what they're after. They're after terror, and they won. They won and those like you are letting them keep their victory by cowering like the little yellow bellied chickenshit you are.
You don't deserve this country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_(shoe_bomber)
The 6 foot 4 inch (193 cm) tall, 200+ pound (90+ kg) Reid was next subdued by several passengers on the airliner, and then bound up using plastic handcuffs, seatbelt extensions, and headphone cords. A physician on board the airliner administered to Reid a tranquilizer that he found in the emergency medical kit of the airliner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwear_bomber
Fellow passenger Jasper Schuringa, a Dutch film director, jumped on Abdulmutallab and subdued him as flight attendants used fire extinguishers to douse the flames.
For my third argument:
United 93.
I don't think you need a citation for that one.
Passenger dynamics changed. Your pseudo-psychology is over 11 years out of date.
Q.E.D., bitch.
In the TSA's defense, those two were coming in from outside the country. (Netherlands and England, if memory serves, too lazy to JFGI.)
and iPhones and LiON batteries...
What's perplexing is why they haven't shifted to softer targets. The TSA, overzealous as it is, makes airplanes too hard to attack, but there are millions of other, better targets.
It's not perplexing. Terrorists act by (duh) creating terror. Body count is simply a means to that end. The fact is, we've done such a great job at overcompensating, we're doing their job for them. We're still terrified. Heck, simply saying you're going to build a mosque makes half this country pee their pants!
So, no, it's not perplexing. It's not perplexing in the slightest. Even thinking it's perplexing, "Why, why haven't they killed more of us?!" is exactly why they have not done anything. They turned us all into chickenshits waiting for the next 'big one.'
They basically don't need to keep playing because they have already won.
The fact that the Cuyahoga doesn't catch fire anymore is also another great indicator...
Give it time; give it time...
Two questions:
1. How many prohibited objects slip through?
2. Why, then, is the TSA not trumpeting these successes?
Oh, one more...
Are you including guns embroidered onto purses in that 'per day' count?
Execute a randomly chosen passenger once a shift, just to show the terrorists our resolve?
One tenth of a flight. It worked for the Romans!
Not true. Congress has an approval rating lower than the IRS.
http://gawker.com/5860272/the-irs-is-more-than-four-times-more-popular-than-congress
(Yeah, yeah, the IRS rating is from 2009, just enjoy it you nitpicking bastards.)
Yeah, do that scene in Star Trek where Spock walks into the lift from one part of the ship and walks back out in another.
You know they did that in the original series, right? Without green screens. They just rotated sets while the door was closed. One of the oldest tricks in the book AND it looks even more realistic.
I'm more worried about the Russian water tentacles. If you think creating tsunamis willy-nilly is bad, imagine radioactive tsunamis!
Thought so after the fact, but I didn't see the squiggly red line during the preview, so I left it alone. It's not like I get paid for this crap, anyway. Editors be damned, we're doing it live!
Heh, "do the math."
Maybe you should examine the math of airlines before you base your whole theory on the $99 round trip cattle class ticket.
Once airlines are forced to actually price tickets to reflect the cost of air flight, people will start begging for rail.
If the Beltway collapsed, I bet we'd find money for that post haste...