This is the stupidest argument since Congress tried to tax email.
If I own the legitimate DVD or CD, then it's perfectly legal for me to download another copy of that work as a backup. If you use a torrent to do so, then you are, be definition also distributing it.
This is not copyright enforcement... it's a ban on software.
Google will win... no doubt.
They understand that it's not possible to legislate intent.
Just like shutting down Napster didn't eliminate file sharing... quite the opposite as we all know.
It may not be "right", but copyright owners are simply going to have to develop a new understanding of the reality of technology today. & how it affects legacy systems like copyright.
And they will...
Replace 10% of America's power generation with GT & all you have accomplished is to make traditional Power Gen Feed-stocks more affordable on the international markets. Nat Gas, Coal & Oil are fungible commodities (can be moved place to place)so all marginal power gen technologies like GT or conservation etc... simply finance the energy consumption of China & India's emerging middle class.
That means no net carbon emission reductions, and no actual energy savings. It economically benefits the US of course... but then that's how we got into this Chinese Finger trap of an energy dilemma in the first place.
Don't fear the decline of hydrocarbon energy sources... that's a natural function of exploiting geologic resources.
Fear how your fellow sheeple will react to it...
I assert that this web publisher has created an attractive nuisance with his excellent content being posted "world-readable". He is obviously trying to entrap me into committing a questionable activity.
The death of distribution systems is never pretty...The creative process that invents art (music) is the value add here. The only reason distributors have ever made money is lack of alternative means of distribution.
There is no doubt how this will evolve.
You cannot legislate how the IntraTubes get used... not really.
And the IT's are a better mousetrap for distribution.
In the future artists will charge much more for the creative process... cause that's all they will get.
Art is open source by nature... & since distributing this art is no longer difficult or expensive... well...
I love this thread... members falling over themselves offering up their relationship wisdom. Happily married, 2 kids... divorced from a great gal... bla bla bla.
You just don't want to admit that your neighbor Jerry the auto-mechanic is banging your wife, & they are running around your house, wearing your underwear on their heads & laughing about your shortcomings.
Now... back to CounterStrike...
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I remember when Exxon Mobile reported the largest profits ever received by a company in a single quarter. While they were raking in that dough, they were telling me that hurricane Katrina and the war had left them with no oil at all. They warned me gas prices were going to go up. Then why the hell did they make record profits?
It's because oil companies like Exxon make investments decades out... Over the past couple decades, the assumption was oil priced around $26-$32/barrel.
At twice that price, it's no mystery that revenues are much higher than anticipated.
The recent run up in prices & the severe price volatility are an anticipated result of demand meeting supply. There are no marginal oil supplies left over.
Suffice to say the short-term price changes disolve when viewed on a longer timeline. Adding $20 per barrel/per year is the real story here. And for all that, gas is still cheaper than milk... or water... or beer.
Take my word for it... this is nothing. Our planet extracts more oil today, than ever before in human history... 80+ million barrels per day! With no new "super-giant" oil discoveries on the horizon, and red-hot demand for oil around the planet... well...
Perhaps the most interesting part of this story remains unknown... I was wondering how many of these "outted" folks will "hook-up" because of him outting them?
HP refugee here.
HP died some time ago... absent the vision of it's founding members, HP has become just another victim of the bean-counters.
Farewell to bad garbage.
"The real bonus? It's an energy-positive system. That is, the process itself produces all the energy it needs to run itself, plus a bit."
lol... sure it is...
Can I buy some pot from you? - Brain Griffin
Isn't this simply fraud protection against cheaters?
Other advertiser's value isn't affected, because those clicks/impressions are real.
Only the scammers are getting fake clicks.
I believe these kinds of studies reflect the culture as a whole, since it's virtually impossible to isolate root causes and make useful observations in such a chaotic setting. It's worth noting that each new generation reinvents itself, in the context of it's own development, and this process greatly affects the profile of the individuals who compose the group. Observe the evolution of the gaming community from the perspective of the kids, if you want to understand where this experiment is going. I sponsor two gaming efforts focused on youth culture as a web host, & I marvel at how the assumptions I have made as a mature gamer, are challenged by younger ones. http://www.gamecamp.org/http://www.team340.com/ Don't like how the gaming environment is portrayed? No problem... it's changing in surprising ways.
Use this mindless corporate drivel against itself.
Punish GroupSpeak users by introducing known "concepts" but implying incorrect values to them.
Intentionally use them in related, but inconsistent ways to obscure meaning.
And use hybrid-speak frequently.
BlueTooth becomes BlueTube & so forth.
They deserve it...
It was the Spiderman Movie comment... "With great power comes great responsibility." that got me.
Only geeks would be bitching about "always on".
Free from the cruel bindings of geography, time, culture, religion & race, connectivity gives you great power over how you interact with others... for better or worse.
We geeks may understand the technology behind it, but socially we are about as prepared for this power as a caveman with a blender. Sure it can automate manual tasks... as soon as we figure that out & quit beating each other over the head with it.
Not to worry... Open or Closed is not the issue so much as the source of innovation.
You can't truly purchase creativity.
As many cigar smoking, butt-kissing business guys have discovered the "lie" of "Our company cares about it's employees" pales in comparison to the ideology of OpenSource projects.
To some of us, it is obvious that Open Source is a consequence of the Internet. Pre-Internet, it was possible to maintain Informational Hygiene & treat information assets like any other market commodity. Common folks just could not band together efficiently without corporate sponsorship.
That veil has lifted... the Genie is out of the bottle & will not be put back.
I see the evolution of Open Source as a path to a new model of business not just for software, but in the larger business community itself. I predict it will become increasingly apparent that the folks who actually do the real work will eventually understand that they don't really need the vast hordes of "pretenders" traditional business models force them to work with.
Just like an individual, companies expand to the level of their incompetence visa vi "The Peter Principal". The bigger the company, the more useless baggage they acquire in terms of workers. PreInternet, it was possible for companies to leverage their position as an economic pry-bar. As an individual, I was limited by geography and the expense of travel. I simply couldn't afford to work with guys in Italy.
But now I can...
IBM seems to understand this.
Others... not so much. I expect fortunes will be made... & squandered over this issue. In the end though the Internet itself provides groups of individuals the power of intentional collaboration free of geographic boundaries.
You cannot legislate intent. Pop goes the weasel.
Observations like this would be laughable, if it didn't sound so reasonable. It's laughable because it's waste-basket analysis. But because it sounds reasonable, many will accept glib treatments like this as gospel... which makes it dangerous.
A little googling reveals the problem is one of scale & rate.
It boils down to 2 essential questions:
1) How quickly can a given source of oil be discovered, extracted & produced?
2) How big do you think this experiment in humanity should get?
After all, even if the moon were made of oil, it would be very expensive to acquire & would be limited by how quickly we could exploit it. Same with unconventional oil sources like Tar Sands. Sure it's massive amounts of oil... but how quickly can it be processed? It's not that unconventional sources are bad... they are just worse than conventional one's. And it's this disparity which is the problem. Conventional oil is simply a kick-ass energy source. And no amount of switch grass or turkey diesel will ever come close. We need a new conventional oil.
And even if we discovered 10 new super giant oil fields tomorrow, just how many folks were you planning on inviting to this tea party anyway?
10 billion? 12 billion? More?
Oil isn't the real problem... we are.
Excellent sites... I know the folks who run both & we fully support their efforts.
ASPO is also a credible site of course.
Dr. Campbell (who coined the phrase) also has a website which is associated with ASPO.
Check out http://www.sfu.ca/~asamsamb/sb.htm which is from an Iranian academic who publishes on the topic.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes actually... byte by byte, they demand freedom! They can take our Intertubes, but they can never take our content!
This is the stupidest argument since Congress tried to tax email.
If I own the legitimate DVD or CD, then it's perfectly legal for me to download another copy of that work as a backup. If you use a torrent to do so, then you are, be definition also distributing it.
This is not copyright enforcement... it's a ban on software.
Which is not only stupid... it won't work.
Content wants to be free.
Google will win... no doubt. They understand that it's not possible to legislate intent. Just like shutting down Napster didn't eliminate file sharing... quite the opposite as we all know. It may not be "right", but copyright owners are simply going to have to develop a new understanding of the reality of technology today. & how it affects legacy systems like copyright. And they will...
Replace 10% of America's power generation with GT & all you have accomplished is to make traditional Power Gen Feed-stocks more affordable on the international markets. Nat Gas, Coal & Oil are fungible commodities (can be moved place to place)so all marginal power gen technologies like GT or conservation etc... simply finance the energy consumption of China & India's emerging middle class.
That means no net carbon emission reductions, and no actual energy savings. It economically benefits the US of course... but then that's how we got into this Chinese Finger trap of an energy dilemma in the first place.
Don't fear the decline of hydrocarbon energy sources... that's a natural function of exploiting geologic resources.
Fear how your fellow sheeple will react to it...
I assert that this web publisher has created an attractive nuisance with his excellent content being posted "world-readable". He is obviously trying to entrap me into committing a questionable activity.
There is no doubt how this will evolve.
You cannot legislate how the IntraTubes get used... not really.
And the IT's are a better mousetrap for distribution.
In the future artists will charge much more for the creative process... cause that's all they will get.
Art is open source by nature... & since distributing this art is no longer difficult or expensive... well...
In space... no one can hear you scream.
"As for me, I have no advice..." ummm "...put your children second don't put your spouse second..." What's that?
You just don't want to admit that your neighbor Jerry the auto-mechanic is banging your wife, & they are running around your house, wearing your underwear on their heads & laughing about your shortcomings.
Now... back to CounterStrike...
You Win
in some cases up to 20% of our total traffic.
Make sure you check first.
If your local laws allow wind generators, consider sharpening the blades to harvest some local wildlife for depolymerization.
Then go out into the world & release every carbon atom you can find. FREE the BOUND CARBON!
Of course then all polar ice will melt & we'll have to endure the smug look on Kevin Costner's face.
Then you'll be sorry.
Once my users understand how it's meant to be used, it's a universal winner.
What seals the deal is being implemented with SSL POP access... so the dinosaurs who refuse to budge don't have to.
Better mousetrap
It's a tiny find...
The fact that people like yourself see this as a "giant" is telling.
It's because oil companies like Exxon make investments decades out... Over the past couple decades, the assumption was oil priced around $26-$32/barrel.
At twice that price, it's no mystery that revenues are much higher than anticipated.
The recent run up in prices & the severe price volatility are an anticipated result of demand meeting supply. There are no marginal oil supplies left over.
Suffice to say the short-term price changes disolve when viewed on a longer timeline. Adding $20 per barrel/per year is the real story here. And for all that, gas is still cheaper than milk... or water... or beer.
Take my word for it... this is nothing. Our planet extracts more oil today, than ever before in human history... 80+ million barrels per day! With no new "super-giant" oil discoveries on the horizon, and red-hot demand for oil around the planet... well...
We live in interesting times...
(Find partners from this publicity)
The first rule of B&D is...
HP refugee here. HP died some time ago... absent the vision of it's founding members, HP has become just another victim of the bean-counters. Farewell to bad garbage.
Yet another innovation predicted by that novel. It's like a latter day "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea"
"The real bonus? It's an energy-positive system. That is, the process itself produces all the energy it needs to run itself, plus a bit." lol... sure it is... Can I buy some pot from you? - Brain Griffin
Isn't this simply fraud protection against cheaters? Other advertiser's value isn't affected, because those clicks/impressions are real. Only the scammers are getting fake clicks.
I believe these kinds of studies reflect the culture as a whole, since it's virtually impossible to isolate root causes and make useful observations in such a chaotic setting. It's worth noting that each new generation reinvents itself, in the context of it's own development, and this process greatly affects the profile of the individuals who compose the group. Observe the evolution of the gaming community from the perspective of the kids, if you want to understand where this experiment is going. I sponsor two gaming efforts focused on youth culture as a web host, & I marvel at how the assumptions I have made as a mature gamer, are challenged by younger ones. http://www.gamecamp.org/ http://www.team340.com/ Don't like how the gaming environment is portrayed? No problem... it's changing in surprising ways.
Use this mindless corporate drivel against itself. Punish GroupSpeak users by introducing known "concepts" but implying incorrect values to them. Intentionally use them in related, but inconsistent ways to obscure meaning. And use hybrid-speak frequently. BlueTooth becomes BlueTube & so forth. They deserve it...
It was the Spiderman Movie comment... "With great power comes great responsibility." that got me. Only geeks would be bitching about "always on". Free from the cruel bindings of geography, time, culture, religion & race, connectivity gives you great power over how you interact with others... for better or worse. We geeks may understand the technology behind it, but socially we are about as prepared for this power as a caveman with a blender. Sure it can automate manual tasks... as soon as we figure that out & quit beating each other over the head with it.
Not to worry... Open or Closed is not the issue so much as the source of innovation. You can't truly purchase creativity. As many cigar smoking, butt-kissing business guys have discovered the "lie" of "Our company cares about it's employees" pales in comparison to the ideology of OpenSource projects. To some of us, it is obvious that Open Source is a consequence of the Internet. Pre-Internet, it was possible to maintain Informational Hygiene & treat information assets like any other market commodity. Common folks just could not band together efficiently without corporate sponsorship. That veil has lifted... the Genie is out of the bottle & will not be put back. I see the evolution of Open Source as a path to a new model of business not just for software, but in the larger business community itself. I predict it will become increasingly apparent that the folks who actually do the real work will eventually understand that they don't really need the vast hordes of "pretenders" traditional business models force them to work with. Just like an individual, companies expand to the level of their incompetence visa vi "The Peter Principal". The bigger the company, the more useless baggage they acquire in terms of workers. PreInternet, it was possible for companies to leverage their position as an economic pry-bar. As an individual, I was limited by geography and the expense of travel. I simply couldn't afford to work with guys in Italy. But now I can... IBM seems to understand this. Others... not so much. I expect fortunes will be made... & squandered over this issue. In the end though the Internet itself provides groups of individuals the power of intentional collaboration free of geographic boundaries. You cannot legislate intent. Pop goes the weasel.
Observations like this would be laughable, if it didn't sound so reasonable. It's laughable because it's waste-basket analysis. But because it sounds reasonable, many will accept glib treatments like this as gospel... which makes it dangerous. A little googling reveals the problem is one of scale & rate. It boils down to 2 essential questions: 1) How quickly can a given source of oil be discovered, extracted & produced? 2) How big do you think this experiment in humanity should get? After all, even if the moon were made of oil, it would be very expensive to acquire & would be limited by how quickly we could exploit it. Same with unconventional oil sources like Tar Sands. Sure it's massive amounts of oil... but how quickly can it be processed? It's not that unconventional sources are bad... they are just worse than conventional one's. And it's this disparity which is the problem. Conventional oil is simply a kick-ass energy source. And no amount of switch grass or turkey diesel will ever come close. We need a new conventional oil. And even if we discovered 10 new super giant oil fields tomorrow, just how many folks were you planning on inviting to this tea party anyway? 10 billion? 12 billion? More? Oil isn't the real problem... we are.
Excellent sites... I know the folks who run both & we fully support their efforts. ASPO is also a credible site of course. Dr. Campbell (who coined the phrase) also has a website which is associated with ASPO. Check out http://www.sfu.ca/~asamsamb/sb.htm which is from an Iranian academic who publishes on the topic.