While the risks that you list are all true, GPO is not the ultimate solution you make it out to be. It's not all that difficult to completely circumvent domain level policies. It keeps the honest folks honest, but you still need monitoring, change management, network level security, and strict HR policies to really enforce security. And you're right; this isn't just an MS thing either. As much as I like linux it also needs the same sort of attention to keep workstations secure.
"If that means they go out of business collecting every last drop of that oil, too fucking bad for them."
Yeah, that's an idealistic stance to take, but in the real world too bad for them becomes too bad for all of society. This is far more complex than big business destroying the environment for profit. If they go out of business trying to clean it up who finishes the job? Take your pick: no one, or the government funded by guess who? What happens to all of the jobs that company provided? What happens to the world oil markets when they have one less supplier? What happens to all of the people who had stock in the company through their 401k? I'm not saying they shouldn't clean it up, just that the goal shouldn't be to drive them out of business because that hurts everyone. The leaders who made the decisions to cut corners should not just be fired but prosecuted. However, you and I both know that will probably never happen even if it should.
Well you just answered your own question. They want to keep collecting oil from that well, and that's their primary concern. Frankly I'm torn. There's a part of me that says we need oil, we'd like for it to be as cheap as possible, and let's face it drilling wells costs money. Those costs are then passed on to us as consumers. Then there is a part of me that says they're totally fucking the whole gulf of mexico while they try and come up a solution. While lubercant is usually a good thing when being fucked in this case it's not. I'm glad they're going to cut bait and finally try and stop it, but if they weren't going to be successful in their other endeavors they should have done this right away. Hindsight is 20/20 though and it's hard to say if they knew what the chances were of their failed solutions.
And what is that pray tell? Higher energy costs? Increase in unemployment? Exactly what results are you referring to? You do know that if you stick it to the big businesses they just take your stick away and beat you with it don't you? We are already as a nation working toward reducing carbon emissions. I think that's a good thing for air quality even if I don't buy into the whole GW schtick. So cap and trade has what net effect other than increasing the cost of doing business, which in turn gets passed back to us as consumers? I love the way we as a society rise up and say "yeah, we're going to stick it to those bastards" but in reality what happens is we end up paying the cost. We need their services. Unless you're going to stop buying gas, food, electricity, cable tv, internet, etc. you're going to pay everytime one of these companies gets taxed or fined.
Take the BP oil spill. Congress is talking about hitting them with a huge fine. pffft. You think the stockholders are going to eat that? How about the CEO? Do you think he's going to take a cut in pay? I don't think so. We're going to pay for it. I doubt those responsible will even be fired. Sure, they'll scapegoat some poor run of the mill work a day sap, but the executive that made the decisions that led up to the incident cutting corners to reduce costs? You'll never even find out who that was.
Do you have any idea what cap and trade is going to do to energy costs? Let's say your electric company has to purchase carbon credits in order to meet demand. Who pays for that? The company doesn't just say "oh well, I guess we'll just operate at a loss". They go to the PUC and say "gee, we'd like to continue to provide electricity for everyone in this service area, but our costs are going up, and we can't continue to operate if we can't increase our revenue." The PUC approves the rate increase, and your rates go up. That is the reality of cap and tax, and that's why we call it that. It effectivly becomes a tax increase for everyone with little to no benefit in return. Sorry for the rant, but it really ticks me off.
This is being done in Idaho as well. You're not going to replace a 500MW coal plant with it. It's not a huge amount of energy, but every bit helps, and it's more consistant than wind. Nevertheless I'm sure some environmentalist will find a problem with this too. Hydro kills the fish, wind kills the birds and obstruts the view, etc. I guess they think it's better to keep pumping soot into the enviroment or generating radioactive waste.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There are so many examples of bloated, broken, fiscally irresponsible government programs that your argument is DOA. Welfare comes to mind immediately. If you'd like to sign your paycheck over to the feds because you think they're doing such a great job you go right ahead. I'll keep mine and use it to take care of my family.
I don't know how you got modded insightful when really I can't see the logic let alone the insight in your post. There's lots of free regular porn on the Internet. Has that resulted in less, or more regular porn being created? Have all of the production studios gone out of business? No. CP as you put it, still requires the exploitation of children for its creation. I'm guessing you're ok with that on some level (based on your comments), but most civilized people are not. Additionally, I think it's more than a fetish. It's a sickness. For those involved it becomes more than watching and eventually encourages those with this sickness to act out their fantacies on some poor child. That sucks, and that's why it not only should remain illegal, but those caught with it should be removed from society in a permanent fashion.
See, that's a good model right there. It should work that way for all commercial software. The market should demand it. Unfortunately, when you get into the niche markets you're pretty much screwed. Say you want software that does something very specific (like monitoring and operating a control system). You've got 4-5 venders that provide software to do that, they all suck to varying degrees, charge an outrageous sum of money, and require you to pretty much hire their contracter everytime something breaks or doesn't function.
I disagree. If a vendor tells you their software is going to do something for you their word should be their bond. The idea that you need detailed contracts, SLAs, and a team of lawyers to get what you paid for is a testiment to the decline of honesty in our society. Should the courts be the one to enforce it? I lean towards no, but it's not right that your average business owner can be shafted in a number of ways in the course of just trying to run his operation. It used to be if you were in sales, and you lied about your products you weren't in sales for very long. Word got around, and folks would rather do business with someone who was trustworthy. Now days it's become the accepted norm, and everyone does it, but it doesn't make it right.
It works. I wouldn't say smashingly well though. Even in single player the video is screwy and it glitches every now and then locking up the game. Hopefully steam works better than that.
Are you sure it's republicans that have that market cornered? When I hear about $800 hammers, planes that are purchased and then destroyed before they're even used, stand in line at DMV, or try to get a passport it get's pretty clear. I don't need anyone to convince me that the government lacks the capacity to do things efficiently. I can see it for myself.
Clearly you've never seen Live Free or Die Hard. Our critical infrastructure is highly dependent on computers and the software running on them. Imagine not having power, or water, or natural gas, and all of the traffic signals down at once. Chaos would be the rule of the day. While it's not food it's not insignificant either.
Have you ever called MS support for anything? They're the reason I started learning about computers in the first place. I couldn't rely on them to fix my problem.
here here. What a tremendously great idea. Let's avoid further contamination of oil slick by replacing it with radioactive fish for 100s of years. What are we waiting for?
That's all true. I'm probably a little older than you, but I have all the same issues. But turn all of that off. Focus on just doing your job and contibuting to society for 10 years. Now where are you? You have no idea what the current political issues are, or why one side is better than another. You have no idea where your tax dollars are going, or what they are supporting. In short you are blindly trusting your leaders to take your country where you want it to go. History has demonstrated that to be a bad course of action. I don't think it's a bad thing that we have all of this information. What we need to do is learn what to focus on and take the time to dig deeper on the things that matter the most to us.
Yes I know. Go work hard, pay your taxes, don't question your government, don't listen to the news, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Trust us. We're lawyers. We have your best interests at heart. No, really. We do. Honest.
I'm sure the current administration wishes they could convince everyone to take that approach.
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While the risks that you list are all true, GPO is not the ultimate solution you make it out to be. It's not all that difficult to completely circumvent domain level policies. It keeps the honest folks honest, but you still need monitoring, change management, network level security, and strict HR policies to really enforce security. And you're right; this isn't just an MS thing either. As much as I like linux it also needs the same sort of attention to keep workstations secure.
"If that means they go out of business collecting every last drop of that oil, too fucking bad for them."
Yeah, that's an idealistic stance to take, but in the real world too bad for them becomes too bad for all of society. This is far more complex than big business destroying the environment for profit. If they go out of business trying to clean it up who finishes the job? Take your pick: no one, or the government funded by guess who? What happens to all of the jobs that company provided? What happens to the world oil markets when they have one less supplier? What happens to all of the people who had stock in the company through their 401k? I'm not saying they shouldn't clean it up, just that the goal shouldn't be to drive them out of business because that hurts everyone. The leaders who made the decisions to cut corners should not just be fired but prosecuted. However, you and I both know that will probably never happen even if it should.
Well you just answered your own question. They want to keep collecting oil from that well, and that's their primary concern. Frankly I'm torn. There's a part of me that says we need oil, we'd like for it to be as cheap as possible, and let's face it drilling wells costs money. Those costs are then passed on to us as consumers. Then there is a part of me that says they're totally fucking the whole gulf of mexico while they try and come up a solution. While lubercant is usually a good thing when being fucked in this case it's not. I'm glad they're going to cut bait and finally try and stop it, but if they weren't going to be successful in their other endeavors they should have done this right away. Hindsight is 20/20 though and it's hard to say if they knew what the chances were of their failed solutions.
Agreed, but I might watch it anyway just to see how many chairs he destroyed.
I stand corrected. It's good to see that not everyone is walking around in the dark with their shades on.
And what is that pray tell? Higher energy costs? Increase in unemployment? Exactly what results are you referring to? You do know that if you stick it to the big businesses they just take your stick away and beat you with it don't you? We are already as a nation working toward reducing carbon emissions. I think that's a good thing for air quality even if I don't buy into the whole GW schtick. So cap and trade has what net effect other than increasing the cost of doing business, which in turn gets passed back to us as consumers? I love the way we as a society rise up and say "yeah, we're going to stick it to those bastards" but in reality what happens is we end up paying the cost. We need their services. Unless you're going to stop buying gas, food, electricity, cable tv, internet, etc. you're going to pay everytime one of these companies gets taxed or fined.
Take the BP oil spill. Congress is talking about hitting them with a huge fine. pffft. You think the stockholders are going to eat that? How about the CEO? Do you think he's going to take a cut in pay? I don't think so. We're going to pay for it. I doubt those responsible will even be fired. Sure, they'll scapegoat some poor run of the mill work a day sap, but the executive that made the decisions that led up to the incident cutting corners to reduce costs? You'll never even find out who that was.
Do you have any idea what cap and trade is going to do to energy costs? Let's say your electric company has to purchase carbon credits in order to meet demand. Who pays for that? The company doesn't just say "oh well, I guess we'll just operate at a loss". They go to the PUC and say "gee, we'd like to continue to provide electricity for everyone in this service area, but our costs are going up, and we can't continue to operate if we can't increase our revenue." The PUC approves the rate increase, and your rates go up. That is the reality of cap and tax, and that's why we call it that. It effectivly becomes a tax increase for everyone with little to no benefit in return. Sorry for the rant, but it really ticks me off.
This is being done in Idaho as well. You're not going to replace a 500MW coal plant with it. It's not a huge amount of energy, but every bit helps, and it's more consistant than wind. Nevertheless I'm sure some environmentalist will find a problem with this too. Hydro kills the fish, wind kills the birds and obstruts the view, etc. I guess they think it's better to keep pumping soot into the enviroment or generating radioactive waste.
Well you'd hope so, but given some of the decisions coming down now days I'd say counting on common sense might be pushing your luck.
It's the new math.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. There are so many examples of bloated, broken, fiscally irresponsible government programs that your argument is DOA. Welfare comes to mind immediately. If you'd like to sign your paycheck over to the feds because you think they're doing such a great job you go right ahead. I'll keep mine and use it to take care of my family.
I don't know how you got modded insightful when really I can't see the logic let alone the insight in your post. There's lots of free regular porn on the Internet. Has that resulted in less, or more regular porn being created? Have all of the production studios gone out of business? No. CP as you put it, still requires the exploitation of children for its creation. I'm guessing you're ok with that on some level (based on your comments), but most civilized people are not. Additionally, I think it's more than a fetish. It's a sickness. For those involved it becomes more than watching and eventually encourages those with this sickness to act out their fantacies on some poor child. That sucks, and that's why it not only should remain illegal, but those caught with it should be removed from society in a permanent fashion.
You know they do sell replacement keyboards. Some of them even come with a space key.
See, that's a good model right there. It should work that way for all commercial software. The market should demand it. Unfortunately, when you get into the niche markets you're pretty much screwed. Say you want software that does something very specific (like monitoring and operating a control system). You've got 4-5 venders that provide software to do that, they all suck to varying degrees, charge an outrageous sum of money, and require you to pretty much hire their contracter everytime something breaks or doesn't function.
I disagree. If a vendor tells you their software is going to do something for you their word should be their bond. The idea that you need detailed contracts, SLAs, and a team of lawyers to get what you paid for is a testiment to the decline of honesty in our society. Should the courts be the one to enforce it? I lean towards no, but it's not right that your average business owner can be shafted in a number of ways in the course of just trying to run his operation. It used to be if you were in sales, and you lied about your products you weren't in sales for very long. Word got around, and folks would rather do business with someone who was trustworthy. Now days it's become the accepted norm, and everyone does it, but it doesn't make it right.
It works. I wouldn't say smashingly well though. Even in single player the video is screwy and it glitches every now and then locking up the game. Hopefully steam works better than that.
LOL!!! Now you did it. Hope you brought your fireproof suit.
Are you sure it's republicans that have that market cornered? When I hear about $800 hammers, planes that are purchased and then destroyed before they're even used, stand in line at DMV, or try to get a passport it get's pretty clear. I don't need anyone to convince me that the government lacks the capacity to do things efficiently. I can see it for myself.
Clearly you've never seen Live Free or Die Hard. Our critical infrastructure is highly dependent on computers and the software running on them. Imagine not having power, or water, or natural gas, and all of the traffic signals down at once. Chaos would be the rule of the day. While it's not food it's not insignificant either.
Couldn't be intentional to drum up interest?
I'm glad you won't be reproducing. Maybe that silly line of reasoning can finally die with you.
some folks have no sense of humor.
Have you ever called MS support for anything? They're the reason I started learning about computers in the first place. I couldn't rely on them to fix my problem.
here here. What a tremendously great idea. Let's avoid further contamination of oil slick by replacing it with radioactive fish for 100s of years. What are we waiting for?
That's all true. I'm probably a little older than you, but I have all the same issues. But turn all of that off. Focus on just doing your job and contibuting to society for 10 years. Now where are you? You have no idea what the current political issues are, or why one side is better than another. You have no idea where your tax dollars are going, or what they are supporting. In short you are blindly trusting your leaders to take your country where you want it to go. History has demonstrated that to be a bad course of action. I don't think it's a bad thing that we have all of this information. What we need to do is learn what to focus on and take the time to dig deeper on the things that matter the most to us.
Yes I know. Go work hard, pay your taxes, don't question your government, don't listen to the news, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Trust us. We're lawyers. We have your best interests at heart. No, really. We do. Honest.
I'm sure the current administration wishes they could convince everyone to take that approach.