I refered to a non-core system (i.e. the premium version). It currently retails at $399. Now, the Wii will debut for less than $250 (I vaguely remember the CEO or someone important saying this). I used $200, just by speculation-- Nintendo would want to beat out the Xbox in price, and if the core system drops to $250 or so, the Wii looks like not such a good deal. But its just speculation.
Now saying this I realize its faulty logic because if I base my Wii price on a speculation of a lower Xbox core system price, then the premium would be less too.
Math and statistical price comparisons aside, my point was that the Wii is a better deal, its more appealing to me because I don't have to pay so much for it. It will be less than the Xbox and much less than the PS3. I am a casual console gamer, and I would by a system for a casual price.
Way to look up prices buddy, you sure shot me down.
I agree completely. I have never liked the PS2 just because I felt is was just a rehash of teh PS1 with better processors and the like. The PS controller has stayed the same throughout, and it doesn't look like its going to get much of a makeover with the upcoming release. I have to give it to Nintendo for always trying something new. Each of their systems have shown a devolopment in controller ergonomics and button layout. Microsoft as well has made the new 360 more aesthetically pleasing. The controller is much more natural and confortable to hold. However Sony's is rigid and does not conform to your hands naturally. Plus, I found on the PS2 all this R1/R2 and L1/L2 business is rediculous, making your fingers move in completely unnatural directions.
... or it may just be that I have significantly larger hands than most asians...
But seriously, the PS3/sony is way to niche market. They are not going to attract any new buyers with the same basic console design. The price may scare off current owners of the PS2. And, the PS3's major advancements in technology (cell processor) won't attract any new customers, unlike the Wii. The only thing I see the PS3 has going for it is Blue Ray and console specific games, neither of which attract me-- most of the unique titles are too Japanese for me, and I will wait out the Blue Ray/HD-DVD battle to see which one is going to be the next Beta...
I would choose the Wii over the other two because of Pricepoint, Nintendo games (Smash Bros looks sweet and I con't wait to see what they do with Mariokart), and ingiuity. I mean heck, if the Wii debuts at $199, you could get it for christmas and afford to give one to your borther/cousin/etc for as much as it would cost to get one Xbox 360 non-core system (you end up needing some kind of hard drive eventually to save your games...).
I agree to some extent. I was searching for this site that hosted the solutions manual to my calc textbook. I entered a few unique words I had seen on the page before, and for some reason, google didn't get it at all, while it was the first result for yahoo.
no, its because its a major/popular/widespread/frequently-purchased product that they cash in big time on.
I am sure there are companies that produce crap (read: unpopular/never purchased) products and pay there workers nothing. But, no one minds, because they hardly know the product exists, and the company is ripping off far fewer workers (seeing that the product doesn't sell).
...though I may be completely wrong. But, I believe you have a point, even if you don't know what you are talking about with Marxism or whatnot.
Why don't we go ahead and examine every top tech company to see what its oversees employers make? Why just Apple?
But, they are giving it away. What can you expect? If money was actually made/spent developing it, I am sure there would be a better product.
I can play pong online for free, but it isn't worth much. WoW actually has much better entertainment value.
My point was that having two different restaurant chains/brands in the same building tends to degrade/worsen both brands-- Like combining two seperate companies with different objectives.
apple and nintendo:: professional computers and gaming:: American and Japanese (not that globalization is not good)[no racial offense/joke intended].
Its like co-branding a fastfood restaurant: KFC makes good chicken, Pizza hut makes good pizza, and taco bell makes good tacos(?). Put them together and you get worse service, a slow drive-thru, and a big muddled mess.
This also makes the bojangles next door seem like a much better place to satisfy my craving for fried chicken!
Sure they might be trying to annoy Linux dual booters, but what about Intel Macs? As far as trying to interfere with dual booting, I see the Mac threat a bigger issue for Microsoft than Linux. Well, ok maybe not bigger, but seeing as its the most recent news as far as dual booting, the implications for Macs should be considered as well as those with Linux.
I can def. see this as the beginning of what dvorak wrote of.
Although the Apple core fanatics will continue to use OS X, I doubt there will be many new converts considering this. But, I don't see a negative. Current Apple users will prob. want to upgrade their hardware so they CAN dual boot if they need it, and I feel their hardware will take of; many people I know love the computers-- powerbooks and minis especially --but refuse to use the OS just because they are Anti-Apple, Anti-OSX. Also, a plus for apple gamers, now we don't have to wait for Aspyr to port games over and overpay like crazy.
Overall good move for apple-- Increase Hardwares market share by a ton, but I doubt there will be many *new* OS X users. Not necessarily a bad thing considering they will have to pay for it as there built-in default OS (for now). And since OS X is default, they can claim no responsiblity for the crapiness of windows.
My experience has been great. Although I had to spend an hour of so on the phone when fried my logic board because I didn't update my vid. card's firmware before installing OS 10.3 on my old Graphite iMac, I did bring it to a local retail store where they replaced the logic board, and finished installing the OS, for free, in 2 days...
Alex Trebek: Good work, all right. Finally, Mr. Connery.. the category was Numbers, and you wrote.. [ shows his screen ]..a letter V. Well, I tell you what, my friend - V is a Roman numeral, so despite your best efforts, you answered correctly. Let's see what you wagered.. [ wager is revealed to use the V as part of a K in "Suck it Trebek" ] "Suck it Trebek". [ Connery laughs wildly ] That's all the time we have. Good night, my.. [ Reynolds places over-sized hat on Trebek's head ] Would you get that off of me? [ pulls it off his own head ]
[ fade out ]
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/99/99cjeopardy.phtml
While I myself used Matlab (http://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/) after learning other languages, I found it fairly easy to use. While it is math based, one can still use it to program for a wide variety of problems. One can learn the basics of loops, vectors, matricies, functions, etc. Without worrying about too much complication. Additionally (this is good and bad), you don't have to worry about declaring variables or specifying ints from longs or doubles. While you can do such things, they are done automatically if not specified otherwise.
From their site:
"MATLAB is a high-level language and interactive environment that enables
you to perform computationally intensive tasks faster than with traditional programming languages such as C, C++, and Fortran."
Is it just me, or is it always like the Bigger guy always goes any straight up copies what is successful for the little guy....Just like Windows is ripping off a bunch of features for Vista that have been Successful for Apple, and McDonalds introduced a premium spicy chicken sandwich that Wendy's has had for decades.
Hey...
Aspyr is beginning to bring alot of "hot" PC games over to OSX.
Too bad you have to pay $50 for Roller Coaster Tycoon, when it was realeased over a year ago for PC, for which it now costs $30 at most.
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I refered to a non-core system (i.e. the premium version). It currently retails at $399. Now, the Wii will debut for less than $250 (I vaguely remember the CEO or someone important saying this). I used $200, just by speculation-- Nintendo would want to beat out the Xbox in price, and if the core system drops to $250 or so, the Wii looks like not such a good deal. But its just speculation.
Now saying this I realize its faulty logic because if I base my Wii price on a speculation of a lower Xbox core system price, then the premium would be less too.
Math and statistical price comparisons aside, my point was that the Wii is a better deal, its more appealing to me because I don't have to pay so much for it. It will be less than the Xbox and much less than the PS3. I am a casual console gamer, and I would by a system for a casual price.
Way to look up prices buddy, you sure shot me down.
I agree completely. I have never liked the PS2 just because I felt is was just a rehash of teh PS1 with better processors and the like. The PS controller has stayed the same throughout, and it doesn't look like its going to get much of a makeover with the upcoming release. I have to give it to Nintendo for always trying something new. Each of their systems have shown a devolopment in controller ergonomics and button layout. Microsoft as well has made the new 360 more aesthetically pleasing. The controller is much more natural and confortable to hold. However Sony's is rigid and does not conform to your hands naturally. Plus, I found on the PS2 all this R1/R2 and L1/L2 business is rediculous, making your fingers move in completely unnatural directions.
... or it may just be that I have significantly larger hands than most asians ...
But seriously, the PS3/sony is way to niche market. They are not going to attract any new buyers with the same basic console design. The price may scare off current owners of the PS2. And, the PS3's major advancements in technology (cell processor) won't attract any new customers, unlike the Wii. The only thing I see the PS3 has going for it is Blue Ray and console specific games, neither of which attract me-- most of the unique titles are too Japanese for me, and I will wait out the Blue Ray/HD-DVD battle to see which one is going to be the next Beta...
I would choose the Wii over the other two because of Pricepoint, Nintendo games (Smash Bros looks sweet and I con't wait to see what they do with Mariokart), and ingiuity. I mean heck, if the Wii debuts at $199, you could get it for christmas and afford to give one to your borther/cousin/etc for as much as it would cost to get one Xbox 360 non-core system (you end up needing some kind of hard drive eventually to save your games...).
I agree to some extent. I was searching for this site that hosted the solutions manual to my calc textbook. I entered a few unique words I had seen on the page before, and for some reason, google didn't get it at all, while it was the first result for yahoo.
no, its because its a major/popular/widespread/frequently-purchased product that they cash in big time on.
...though I may be completely wrong. But, I believe you have a point, even if you don't know what you are talking about with Marxism or whatnot.
I am sure there are companies that produce crap (read: unpopular/never purchased) products and pay there workers nothing. But, no one minds, because they hardly know the product exists, and the company is ripping off far fewer workers (seeing that the product doesn't sell).
Why don't we go ahead and examine every top tech company to see what its oversees employers make? Why just Apple?
Well, the cost to worthlessness ratio holds true.
But, they are giving it away. What can you expect? If money was actually made/spent developing it, I am sure there would be a better product.
I can play pong online for free, but it isn't worth much. WoW actually has much better entertainment value.
Very true about the sony reference.
Note Steve Jobs' recently acquired post at pixar/disney.
My point was that having two different restaurant chains/brands in the same building tends to degrade/worsen both brands-- Like combining two seperate companies with different objectives.
:: professional computers and gaming :: American and Japanese (not that globalization is not good)[no racial offense/joke intended].
apple and nintendo
Brilliant theory!?
...wait a minute...
I thought that already occured this year when Dvorak announced Apple to drop OSX?
Its like co-branding a fastfood restaurant: KFC makes good chicken, Pizza hut makes good pizza, and taco bell makes good tacos(?). Put them together and you get worse service, a slow drive-thru, and a big muddled mess. This also makes the bojangles next door seem like a much better place to satisfy my craving for fried chicken!
yeah-- I wouldn't want to mess with "her and her boy" ...especially if "her boy" is that fat guy.
*please don't sit on me!*
"all your base are belong to us!" "Physics am my life"
Sure they might be trying to annoy Linux dual booters, but what about Intel Macs? As far as trying to interfere with dual booting, I see the Mac threat a bigger issue for Microsoft than Linux. Well, ok maybe not bigger, but seeing as its the most recent news as far as dual booting, the implications for Macs should be considered as well as those with Linux.
I can def. see this as the beginning of what dvorak wrote of. Although the Apple core fanatics will continue to use OS X, I doubt there will be many new converts considering this. But, I don't see a negative. Current Apple users will prob. want to upgrade their hardware so they CAN dual boot if they need it, and I feel their hardware will take of; many people I know love the computers-- powerbooks and minis especially --but refuse to use the OS just because they are Anti-Apple, Anti-OSX. Also, a plus for apple gamers, now we don't have to wait for Aspyr to port games over and overpay like crazy. Overall good move for apple-- Increase Hardwares market share by a ton, but I doubt there will be many *new* OS X users. Not necessarily a bad thing considering they will have to pay for it as there built-in default OS (for now). And since OS X is default, they can claim no responsiblity for the crapiness of windows.
My experience has been great. Although I had to spend an hour of so on the phone when fried my logic board because I didn't update my vid. card's firmware before installing OS 10.3 on my old Graphite iMac, I did bring it to a local retail store where they replaced the logic board, and finished installing the OS, for free, in 2 days...
Alex Trebek: Good work, all right. Finally, Mr. Connery.. the category was Numbers, and you wrote.. [ shows his screen ] ..a letter V. Well, I tell you what, my friend - V is a Roman numeral, so despite your best efforts, you answered correctly. Let's see what you wagered.. [ wager is revealed to use the V as part of a K in "Suck it Trebek" ] "Suck it Trebek". [ Connery laughs wildly ] That's all the time we have. Good night, my.. [ Reynolds places over-sized hat on Trebek's head ] Would you get that off of me? [ pulls it off his own head ]
[ fade out ]
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/99/99cjeopardy.phtml
It may be needed for the newly debuted iWeb, and definitely .Mac accounts with the upgraded storage capacity.
Is it just me, or is it always like the Bigger guy always goes any straight up copies what is successful for the little guy. ...Just like Windows is ripping off a bunch of features for Vista that have been Successful for Apple, and McDonalds introduced a premium spicy chicken sandwich that Wendy's has had for decades.
Windows Vista.... if it ever ships.
You would think that Microsoft would have released something by now.
In comparison, Apple has released how many versions of OSX since XP's debut?
Hey... Aspyr is beginning to bring alot of "hot" PC games over to OSX. Too bad you have to pay $50 for Roller Coaster Tycoon, when it was realeased over a year ago for PC, for which it now costs $30 at most.