What are you guys gaining by trash talking anyway? Is Bill letting you borrow his wife?
You've a serious bias issue if you think saying something good for a Microsoft product is trash talking.
I don't hate Macs, I don't hate Linux, I'm using all three platforms over here (Mac for video editing and gfx, PC for web development and 3D, Linux as a test/production server platform), and I'm trying to be objective.
The world is in all shades of color, dude, it's not just black and white.
A bit of a defense for the Neo-Geo... Neo-Geo like it's co-"competitor" the SNES, was arguably the console with the longest lifespan. It debuted in 1990 and the last game for it was released in 2004, a full four years after the original company (SNK) had declared BANKRUPTCY.
Sheesh that's some defense. Should we look forward to the same happening with Sony?
The PS3 is far from the most expensive console in history (that would be the Neo Geo, at almost $1000 adjusted price), but that hasn't stopped analysts, publishers, developers, and gamers from grumbling about it the week after E3.
The market still relies on the dumb "9" prices (199, 149.90, 399, you know the drill). Of course, we all know paying $600 is not different to $599, but they do it, and we're flooded with such prices, get tired and occasionally fall for it while doing quick comparisons.
And why they do it? Because it works. When you compare prices *fast*, you occasionally forget about the 9-s, such as when comparing XBOX's $399 and Playstation $599.
Noone is actually making a charts with inflation adjusted prices in his head. All it counts, is what first impression the digits makes...
I'm perfectly willing to disagree, since I don't want or think it's the responsibility of my OS vendor to provide me with a heavyweight media player
Yes, why should Microsoft catter to ordinary users, they should instead please the geeks who will compile their own geeky media player from OSS CVS repositories.
In time it may do a real good for them, and they may reach the staggering numbers of adoption of Linux as an out-of-the-box easy to use Desktop experience your mom and pop could easily work with.
Yawn-inducing? See what iTunes is like. Jobs insolently called it the best product evah on PC, and most Apple users are actually agreeing with him (I'll put aside how slow it is, how big it is, how many services it installs and so on).
WMP 11 is for the first time, just as simple if not more, and just as elegant if not more, to use as iTunes is. Look at the features, shots, play with it, you can't disagree they did a great job. Just remember what they started with, the piece of shit called WMP 7, boy was it slow and did it look retarded.
But anyways that's Slashdot, so you can disagree with anything, as long as you make MS look bad.
You've misunderstood me, I wasn't commenting the grammar. W3C is a huge amalgamation of technologies used and not used, finished and not finished, CSS 2.1 has *flaws* in the very recommendation that forces browser writers to write with hacks and approximation about some selectors.
Just claiming that a browser should "support" W3C is a very naive and wrong view of things. No browser in the world supports all of CSS. Actually, even Amaya, W3C own (now discontinued) effort had laughably buggy support for the standards they came up with.
What Microsoft did with IE7 was the only thing they could do: they collected a big list of the most annoying bugs, and most requested by the devs features regarding CSS support and implemented them. A lot of techniques that were impossible in IE6 without hacks like pure JS-less nested popup menus or fixed position elements are now fully supported.
They didn't went into blindly trying to implement everything in the tight schedule they have to claim "support", instead they they those changes where it would be most useful and most important.
This is what Firefox and Opera do most of the time, with the significant difference IE6 was frozen in time for over 6 years. Firefox/Opera also have plenty of CSS features improperly implemented or missing at all, and they ALSO extend the specs by adding their own standards (like XUL, in the case of Mozilla for ex. - this is NOT w3c standard, XForms is the W3C alternative).
What I wanted to urge you to see, is the matter is complex, messy and it's not as white and black as saying that a browser supports or not W3C. Hell, frequently W3C had to be pushed like a little kid screaming and kicking to introduce basic features in HTML, such as image support, which didn't came from W3C... the W3C standard was modeled AFTER the browser who "extended" HTML by introducing it (same can be said for the infamous frames, which still are useful in web applications and help systems).
At the time Microsoft was still updating IE, IE was the first browser with solid (for the time) CSS support, and for a long time the only one (did you forget NS4 and its "layer" tags and "JS Styles" and all other crap, god I hated that browser).
The irony of it may have escaped you. You attempted to accuse me of using nonsense phrases, while making no sense yourself.
In the future, when you argue with someone remember: changing the subject and commenting something totally unrelated in an attempt to be "ironic", like his syntax, accent, height, wealth, past, religion, or color of his eyes, makes you really seem short of *real* arguments.
The things covered in the article are completely new to me. Really! I mean, like, the reason you can be misunderstood over e-mail is the lack of voice expressions and face expression?
Shit, being a scientist is sure a hell of a complex job.
I've never EVER read than in thousands of other articles throughout the last 10 years, and it's totally not common knowledge. Honest!
"I wonder what the hell happened to common sense, where we lost it and will we find it again any time soon," muses SUV 4X4.:D well this nick I got in the gym, not because I have a SUV 4x4 (which I don't)
What's even more impressive is the fact that even with newer games, the sub-$80 cards still have enough punch to deliver respectable performance.
No, what's impressive is that most gamers have been successfully brainwashed that they need a $500 video card to play a modern game, while the low range has been excellent for the past 3-4 years.
At the same time, people are shocked about PS3 being $600. I wonder what the hell happened to common sense, where we lost it and will we find it again any time soon.
tell me an easy way to install a currently available windows version on a system with sata raid controller, no fdd
Is this what you think "ordinary PC users" have on their systems? Windows is optimized to be functional enough on an ordinary user PC. Linux works great as a server.
And what you described up there confirms exactly that, and it's great for both Windows and Linux doing their roles.
But it doesn't quite address the issue Linux has being usable for ordinary PC users.
The person couldn't be bothered learning how to use another system after investing a large amount of time in Windows. I see it all the time... Lazy user syndrome.
The person couldn't be bothered to comprehend some people derive more entertainment and results from an OS when they use it and not when they spend most of their time learning it. The person who forgot that stuff is easy once you know it, but before he knew it, it was hard for him too. The person who can't comprehend not everyone is interested in tuning config files, and hacking sources just for the pure fun of it. The person who still doesn't realize the computer is a tool like any tool, and just like with a car or a TV screen, you have to be able to use it without being an expert mechanic.... Smug Linux user syndrome.
The vast majority of people are not "hardcore Trekkies," but the vast majority of pedophiles are--and that is significant.
It's not significant. You fall for the same flaw as you just described to me. Pedophiles are people, but not all people are pedophiles. Pedophiles are mostly trekkies, but trekkies are a huge community, and not all of them are pedophiles.
The fact that trekkies are a smaller community than all people doesn't mean you can freely switch the relationship and claim that trekkies are predisposed to be pedophiles.
So basically this says nothing except that, I guess, pedophiles are closed in themselves, immature and have tendency to live in their own fantasy world (hey, what's new!), like the rest of the trekkies do.
Look at it another way. We have women and men in the world. 99.99% of all pedophiles are actually men. If you are a man, do you feel more pedophile from this statistic? I leave the conclusion to you.
That's weird, I noticed that my comment (parent) went to +5, then without reasons (like overrated) it dropped to +3 (and now it's raising again).
I suspect this is CmdrTaco and his team modding me down, however why are their points not tagged with a "reason"? It kinda allows for some puzzling configurations, like 33% informative, 33% insightfull , 33% funny, yet +1... (and apparently the post was modded at least 3 times with positive scores and never with negative).
Nevertheless, Det. Lamond does confirm that a majority of those arrested show "at least a passing interest in Star Trek, if not a strong interest."
So what, should I expect the police to knock on my door since I may watch Star Trek? I bet also all of the arrested pedophiles breath air, but does that make everyone who breath air a pedophile?
I suspect the relation has more to do that Star Trek is a huge franchise, spanning multiple seasons of multiple generations of the same theme and has a massive appeal and is well recognized in pop-culture.
It's the most popular sci-fi series on TV yet. Star Wars is certainly not lower, but it's a movie (or 3 movies.. or 6 movies if you count recent years). It can only keep your interest for so long, while hundreds of Star Trek episodes certainly make it easy to not forget Star Trek if you enjoy it.
Most people who avoid social contact have distorted perception of "outer world" including sexual contacts which may lead to *few* of them becoming pedophiles. When you lack social contact you also watch a lot of TV and like dream universes where everything is "better" or more "exciting".
This is the connection I can find, but that thing with the mutants and rules and so on... I call bullshit on that.
BTW, I'm not *really* a Star Trek fan, but "passing interest" is a muddy term. You can call anyone who saw an episode to have a passing interest.
BTW I'm a Battlestar Gallactica fan. So, what am I? A fetishist, masochist, voyeur:)?
This occurs in the body, we have microtubles and kinesin in all our cells. The 'research' has shown for *years* that magnetic fields have *no* effect on cancer etc.. so.. it controls Kinesin, but wont affect cells? please.
Imagine a society that progresses slowly but their citizens live a happy natural life among plenty of trees, flowers and animals, technology where there is even a remote possibility to affect health or nature in a bad way is developed and carefully tested for the span of over 70 years while kept isolated from the main population. The population doesn't mind since they lead a happy natural life void of stress.
Now imagine a society where every citizen wants the latest and greatest, where some citizens quickly gain power by abusing other citizens and stop at nothing to increase that power, including poisoning the nature and even people themselves by releasing toxins and harmful technology in mass use in return of a quick profit. Imagine people are so stressed and live in so bad habitat, that their only joy is artificla stimulation of senses called "entertainment industry", a bleak replacement of a happy and healthy life, designed to keep them from stressing out, grabbing a gun and shooting everyone in sight. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
Ok, so traffic control system for molecules, damn it this means nothing to me... What do I post, what do I post.. Heh a joke always works when you got not clue! I'll ask what the equivalent of traffic cops or talk how "that's the place you don't want a traffic jam to happen". Nah cheesy as hell.
No, wait... I'll voice a concern that's totally unfounded and blow it out of proportions. Nano technology omg, will take over people and turn 'em into zombies! No wait, I'll look more intelligent if it's a question: what if is malfunctions and turn us into zombies? Nah... I've no idea how it works I might come off as a moron.
So what do I say... what do I say. Ah to hell with it!
Microsoft sucks! Hi mom!
Damn it, I think today's not my day... I'll go watch my downloaded episodes of Star Trek and see later.
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What are you guys gaining by trash talking anyway? Is Bill letting you borrow his wife?
You've a serious bias issue if you think saying something good for a Microsoft product is trash talking.
I don't hate Macs, I don't hate Linux, I'm using all three platforms over here (Mac for video editing and gfx, PC for web development and 3D, Linux as a test/production server platform), and I'm trying to be objective.
The world is in all shades of color, dude, it's not just black and white.
A bit of a defense for the Neo-Geo... Neo-Geo like it's co-"competitor" the SNES, was arguably the console with the longest lifespan. It debuted in 1990 and the last game for it was released in 2004, a full four years after the original company (SNK) had declared BANKRUPTCY.
Sheesh that's some defense. Should we look forward to the same happening with Sony?
The PS3 is far from the most expensive console in history (that would be the Neo Geo, at almost $1000 adjusted price), but that hasn't stopped analysts, publishers, developers, and gamers from grumbling about it the week after E3.
The market still relies on the dumb "9" prices (199, 149.90, 399, you know the drill).
Of course, we all know paying $600 is not different to $599, but they do it, and we're flooded with such prices, get tired and occasionally fall for it while doing quick comparisons.
And why they do it? Because it works. When you compare prices *fast*, you occasionally forget about the 9-s, such as when comparing XBOX's $399 and Playstation $599.
Noone is actually making a charts with inflation adjusted prices in his head. All it counts, is what first impression the digits makes...
I'm perfectly willing to disagree, since I don't want or think it's the responsibility of my OS vendor to provide me with a heavyweight media player
Yes, why should Microsoft catter to ordinary users, they should instead please the geeks who will compile their own geeky media player from OSS CVS repositories.
In time it may do a real good for them, and they may reach the staggering numbers of adoption of Linux as an out-of-the-box easy to use Desktop experience your mom and pop could easily work with.
But "leaking" a yawn-inducing product
Yawn-inducing? See what iTunes is like. Jobs insolently called it the best product evah on PC, and most Apple users are actually agreeing with him (I'll put aside how slow it is, how big it is, how many services it installs and so on).
WMP 11 is for the first time, just as simple if not more, and just as elegant if not more, to use as iTunes is. Look at the features, shots, play with it, you can't disagree they did a great job. Just remember what they started with, the piece of shit called WMP 7, boy was it slow and did it look retarded.
But anyways that's Slashdot, so you can disagree with anything, as long as you make MS look bad.
You were the one who brought up grammar.
You've misunderstood me, I wasn't commenting the grammar. W3C is a huge amalgamation of technologies used and not used, finished and not finished, CSS 2.1 has *flaws* in the very recommendation that forces browser writers to write with hacks and approximation about some selectors.
Just claiming that a browser should "support" W3C is a very naive and wrong view of things. No browser in the world supports all of CSS. Actually, even Amaya, W3C own (now discontinued) effort had laughably buggy support for the standards they came up with.
What Microsoft did with IE7 was the only thing they could do: they collected a big list of the most annoying bugs, and most requested by the devs features regarding CSS support and implemented them. A lot of techniques that were impossible in IE6 without hacks like pure JS-less nested popup menus or fixed position elements are now fully supported.
They didn't went into blindly trying to implement everything in the tight schedule they have to claim "support", instead they they those changes where it would be most useful and most important.
This is what Firefox and Opera do most of the time, with the significant difference IE6 was frozen in time for over 6 years. Firefox/Opera also have plenty of CSS features improperly implemented or missing at all, and they ALSO extend the specs by adding their own standards (like XUL, in the case of Mozilla for ex. - this is NOT w3c standard, XForms is the W3C alternative).
What I wanted to urge you to see, is the matter is complex, messy and it's not as white and black as saying that a browser supports or not W3C. Hell, frequently W3C had to be pushed like a little kid screaming and kicking to introduce basic features in HTML, such as image support, which didn't came from W3C... the W3C standard was modeled AFTER the browser who "extended" HTML by introducing it (same can be said for the infamous frames, which still are useful in web applications and help systems).
At the time Microsoft was still updating IE, IE was the first browser with solid (for the time) CSS support, and for a long time the only one (did you forget NS4 and its "layer" tags and "JS Styles" and all other crap, god I hated that browser).
It used to be said that people have two ears and only one mouth, so that you should listen twice as much as you should speak.
...
;)
The problem when it comes to email is that people have ten fingers, but only one brain
If you explain to me what you meant in the context of my post I'll sleep easier tonight
The irony of it may have escaped you. You attempted to accuse me of using nonsense phrases, while making no sense yourself.
In the future, when you argue with someone remember: changing the subject and commenting something totally unrelated in an attempt to be "ironic", like his syntax, accent, height, wealth, past, religion, or color of his eyes, makes you really seem short of *real* arguments.
A little tip, straight from the big old books.
I still can't believe it's not butter.
The things covered in the article are completely new to me. Really! I mean, like, the reason you can be misunderstood over e-mail is the lack of voice expressions and face expression?
Shit, being a scientist is sure a hell of a complex job.
I've never EVER read than in thousands of other articles throughout the last 10 years, and it's totally not common knowledge. Honest!
Yeah, but would you really want to shoot or hack and slash a photo-realistic character for fun? That's pretty sick (IMO).
Those sick sick horror/thriller/crime moviegoers!
What's the last distro you used, and when?
Ubuntu, 2 months ago. It run pretty much fine and I even had Internet, but to get it from that point to the point of also having sound, I never could.
Let alone installing Kylix... THE HOLLY NIGHTMARE.
It'll set you back a few bucks more than these cards - 30-50$ more - but you will get a whole lot more value.
:D
Could be, but to me, value is something I can make use of, and if I don't use it, it's not value
"I wonder what the hell happened to common sense, where we lost it and will we find it again any time soon," muses SUV 4X4. :D well this nick I got in the gym, not because I have a SUV 4x4 (which I don't)
If you want to use a car metaphor with Linux, it's now closer to "Windows is an automatic, Linux is a stick-shift" than anything else.
Actually Linux is closer to Build-It-Yourself kit, and they don't provide keys so you gotta shortcircuit a bunch of wires to get it working.
What's even more impressive is the fact that even with newer games, the sub-$80 cards still have enough punch to deliver respectable performance.
No, what's impressive is that most gamers have been successfully brainwashed that they need a $500 video card to play a modern game, while the low range has been excellent for the past 3-4 years.
At the same time, people are shocked about PS3 being $600. I wonder what the hell happened to common sense, where we lost it and will we find it again any time soon.
tell me an easy way to install a currently available windows version on a system with sata raid controller, no fdd
Is this what you think "ordinary PC users" have on their systems? Windows is optimized to be functional enough on an ordinary user PC. Linux works great as a server.
And what you described up there confirms exactly that, and it's great for both Windows and Linux doing their roles.
But it doesn't quite address the issue Linux has being usable for ordinary PC users.
The person couldn't be bothered learning how to use another system after investing a large amount of time in Windows. I see it all the time... Lazy user syndrome.
The person couldn't be bothered to comprehend some people derive more entertainment and results from an OS when they use it and not when they spend most of their time learning it. The person who forgot that stuff is easy once you know it, but before he knew it, it was hard for him too. The person who can't comprehend not everyone is interested in tuning config files, and hacking sources just for the pure fun of it. The person who still doesn't realize the computer is a tool like any tool, and just like with a car or a TV screen, you have to be able to use it without being an expert mechanic.... Smug Linux user syndrome.
The vast majority of people are not "hardcore Trekkies," but the vast majority of pedophiles are--and that is significant.
It's not significant. You fall for the same flaw as you just described to me. Pedophiles are people, but not all people are pedophiles. Pedophiles are mostly trekkies, but trekkies are a huge community, and not all of them are pedophiles.
The fact that trekkies are a smaller community than all people doesn't mean you can freely switch the relationship and claim that trekkies are predisposed to be pedophiles.
So basically this says nothing except that, I guess, pedophiles are closed in themselves, immature and have tendency to live in their own fantasy world (hey, what's new!), like the rest of the trekkies do.
Look at it another way. We have women and men in the world. 99.99% of all pedophiles are actually men. If you are a man, do you feel more pedophile from this statistic? I leave the conclusion to you.
That's weird, I noticed that my comment (parent) went to +5, then without reasons (like overrated) it dropped to +3 (and now it's raising again).
... (and apparently the post was modded at least 3 times with positive scores and never with negative).
I suspect this is CmdrTaco and his team modding me down, however why are their points not tagged with a "reason"? It kinda allows for some puzzling configurations, like 33% informative, 33% insightfull , 33% funny, yet +1
Something to consider in future releases.
Nevertheless, Det. Lamond does confirm that a majority of those arrested show "at least a passing interest in Star Trek, if not a strong interest."
:)?
So what, should I expect the police to knock on my door since I may watch Star Trek?
I bet also all of the arrested pedophiles breath air, but does that make everyone who breath air a pedophile?
I suspect the relation has more to do that Star Trek is a huge franchise, spanning multiple seasons of multiple generations of the same theme and has a massive appeal and is well recognized in pop-culture.
It's the most popular sci-fi series on TV yet. Star Wars is certainly not lower, but it's a movie (or 3 movies.. or 6 movies if you count recent years). It can only keep your interest for so long, while hundreds of Star Trek episodes certainly make it easy to not forget Star Trek if you enjoy it.
Most people who avoid social contact have distorted perception of "outer world" including sexual contacts which may lead to *few* of them becoming pedophiles. When you lack social contact you also watch a lot of TV and like dream universes where everything is "better" or more "exciting".
This is the connection I can find, but that thing with the mutants and rules and so on... I call bullshit on that.
BTW, I'm not *really* a Star Trek fan, but "passing interest" is a muddy term. You can call anyone who saw an episode to have a passing interest.
BTW I'm a Battlestar Gallactica fan. So, what am I? A fetishist, masochist, voyeur
Go back to playing football, jock. Real nerds write their throwaway scripts in real languages:
/g;
:P just, you know, parties, girlfriends, going out... It kinda got in my way so I never learned a real language :(
($_ = unpack("B*", "NERD ALERT")) =~ s/(........)/\1
print;
Yea, sorry
This occurs in the body, we have microtubles and kinesin in all our cells. The 'research' has shown for *years* that magnetic fields have *no* effect on cancer etc.. so.. it controls Kinesin, but wont affect cells? please.
Imagine a society that progresses slowly but their citizens live a happy natural life among plenty of trees, flowers and animals, technology where there is even a remote possibility to affect health or nature in a bad way is developed and carefully tested for the span of over 70 years while kept isolated from the main population. The population doesn't mind since they lead a happy natural life void of stress.
Now imagine a society where every citizen wants the latest and greatest, where some citizens quickly gain power by abusing other citizens and stop at nothing to increase that power, including poisoning the nature and even people themselves by releasing toxins and harmful technology in mass use in return of a quick profit. Imagine people are so stressed and live in so bad habitat, that their only joy is artificla stimulation of senses called "entertainment industry", a bleak replacement of a happy and healthy life, designed to keep them from stressing out, grabbing a gun and shooting everyone in sight. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.
Ok, so traffic control system for molecules, damn it this means nothing to me... What do I post, what do I post.. Heh a joke always works when you got not clue! I'll ask what the equivalent of traffic cops or talk how "that's the place you don't want a traffic jam to happen". Nah cheesy as hell.
No, wait... I'll voice a concern that's totally unfounded and blow it out of proportions. Nano technology omg, will take over people and turn 'em into zombies! No wait, I'll look more intelligent if it's a question: what if is malfunctions and turn us into zombies? Nah... I've no idea how it works I might come off as a moron.
So what do I say... what do I say. Ah to hell with it!
Microsoft sucks! Hi mom!
Damn it, I think today's not my day... I'll go watch my downloaded episodes of Star Trek and see later.
Wait, its not normal to carry around.... Err.... this is awkward.... uhh these jugs contain apple juice, yah... apple juice.
Now that you've convinced yourself, wanna have a cup of apple juice from those jugs you're carrying?