Predictions coming as funny little jokes. It happens all the time you know.
While Apple would never dump OSX, with the sheer amounts of people who bought MacTels based on pure speculations they may run Windows next to OSX, software developers will feel less pressure to develop Mac software, since Mac users can "just" boot Windows.
So even if OSX was teh omg bestest OS in the world, without software to make use of it, it's just a nice toy with a pretty interface.
something will knock them in the head and they'll realise that they can not only make huge disks the majority of consumers can't fill (yet) but they can also make smaller disks...:P
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"Windows Is So Slow, but Why?"
So we assume it's slow and build an entire article upon it.. What if.. it's not "so slow" though? In my experience OSX and XP have comparable performance and there's definitely not something in XP that makes me say that is is "so slow".
What may make it slow is tons of startup programs, bulky drivers and software, licensing services and so on and so on, all 3rd party stuff.
What makes Windows so slow in the end though? Third party software does. I suppose OSX is really a lot better in that department, having a lot less software to cram on it, unfortunately.
"If IE 7 has a buffer overflow or exploit of some kind and tries to do something nasty it will always fail because it is running as a user with basically no privileges on the system."
Two questions remain unansered however, first how easy it will be for the exploits to simply start targeting the brokers (yes, diminished attack surface and so on but, you never know).
And how easy it will be for exploits to perform a privilege raising attack after saving their files to the temp files folder (where IE can save ok).
At the moment of IE execution those temp files can't do much anything. But if those files are later picked from an app that uses the HTML control or in other manner.. you have a prob.
That said, I still believe MS did a great job on this feature & definitely one of the highlights of Vista.
I this, I that... newsflash, there's more in the world than you an your opinion:) for me as developer having both is golden, and I presume for businesses that want a transition from PC to Mac without ending up with machines that can't boot their previous OS it's even more so.
Lots of people bought MacTels based on the rumour alone they will be able to run Windows on it. Let's not dissapoint them or put words in their mouths that "this is mildly interesting from a geek perspective" only.
"The sad part is, I'd venture to guess in the next couple years, more games or even applications are going to require dual, triple or even quad video cards to reach a running state."
That'd be really sad if it was based on some facts, but you're just being fatalyst and speculating about stuff that won't happen. Half Life 2 and Doom 3 run on GeForce MX4, GeForce MX4!! That's a crappy DX7 card, no pixel shaders or anything, but anyway the games run smooth and is playable even if some special effects are missing or not as good as on the latest and greatest.
SLI is a niche, no sane game developer will EVER require quad SLI. This is insane to even suggest it.
"However, it does withstand the kick pretty impressively."
Yup, I mean what could soldiers want more? It may be harder to repair, way more expensive, terribly noisy, slow, stupid and untrainable in action but hey, you can kick it any time and be impressed!
"Seriously, how many typical consumer-level folks are going to understand that the OS + addon combination is what the suffixes mean? Not many, and when they start to figure the combinations out, countless griping about the needless complexity will air."
How many typical consumer folks will use ANY off the add-ons the higher versions offer? You've just proved yourself MS is doing the right thing.
"I hate to sound like a World Vision commercial, but how the hell can we justify trying to use food as a fuel for our cars when there are millions of people in the world starving?"
Even worse, how can you justify yourself living and eating and drinking water, when millions of people are starving? Cut the pathetic "think of the children" crap, and maybe you can then turly start to make the world a better place.
"Or Vista. That is Vista home. Or home premium. Or business. Or richer business edition"
Stop the FUD machines, the difference between those are mostly features users can turn on or off anyway. As a basic example the Aero Glass skin can be turned off in Home Premium even if it's mandatory only in Basic.
It is stil the same damn OS.
The problem with Linux is not that it has 6 versions with some features turned off in some, but it has a zillion versions, each implemented in a different manner. Not entirely different, but different enough to make it a hell to create software for.
How many ways are there to interface sound in Windows? The basic API-s work in all versions of Windows, even those who use different driver models. Linux has at least a bunch of totally different sound systems that all need to be supported to get sound out of an app.
"you would realise that this time, Microsoft IS being utterly bone-headed"
Oh of course it is, but every big company is. I mean for chris'sake Flash 6 was called:
Flash 6
but Flash 7 was called:
Macromedia Flash MX2004 Professional
Now Flash 8 is called:
Flash 8
The marketing folks are the probably the most boneheaded guys in every company. But you gotta love the corporate world with all it's.. uhmm... whatever sides, and ugly sides.
Microsoft in this case is clearly split between confusing their customers and providing more specialised solution, since, after all 90% of the desktops use Windows, and not all of those 90% have the SAME needs, this needs to be addressed.
Starter for example, why whine about it? It won't even be sold in USA or most civilised countries. Enterprise: same, it's sold to enterprises, not end users.
We're left with versions: one for the business, one for basic home usage, one for home usage with eye candy, and one that has it all for those with the extra cash?
Oh yea, me see Microsoft in article and me think: will bash Microsoft and get cool points on Slashdot! So here what me say:
Microsoft do it for evil purposes! They want to confuse people! They want world confused and then while confused sell them all XBOX-es, Origami phones and Media Center PC-s!
Nothing MS does it good, it all EVIL! All EVIL!
(so now I play the waiting game, sit here and refresh waiting be modded +5 Insightful by a bunch of Microsoft hating Linux users)
... somehow fell right on top of another article in my brain: "Apple abandons OSX in favor of Windows". Dvorak did you write that? Hey I see you, Dvorak, don't hide!
"Computer makers should be able to choose which components, if any, they want to buy from Microsoft."
And let me tell you how it works in the real world: a lot of Windows application depend on the media and HTML rendering engines embeded in Windows, if removed and replaced with other ones, said applications will crash, malfunction or at best simply refuse to work on such a crippled OS.
Nobody tells Apple what to do with their OS. Reasoning? Because they sell their own computers, by MS leaves that choice to you? Where's the logic.
Most of the computer manifacturers already bundle their Windows installations with other media players and browsers (DELL actually sells PC-s with Firefox in Britain right now), so it's not as if they don't have the choice if they want to customize their solution.
Thing is, the vast majority of customers hate the crap the PC manifacturers plaster on top of their installs, they are far more careless in doing so compared to the bundled apps in Windows that MS develops.
Plus a modern OS is hardly just a bare core that runs threads on it. It's as a matter of fact a bundle of components working together, bringing rich experience to the people's computers. If that OS has removed parts or swapped parts, then how can it be really said it's the same OS at all?
Should we bundle our own HTML/Media components and codecs with every single damn app we develop instead of relying on the tested and proved components Windows provides?
The fate of this "special" Windows will be the same as Windows N in EU - available, but noone gives a damn about it. Why buy a broken product?
"It's one advantage to being a cartel assosciation. It's always "the RIAA" or "the MPAA" doing the suing. The individual companies aren't being assosciated with the bad publicity."
The effect is the opposite. People see all of those member companies being transformed into this bad MPAA/RIAA entity and instead even companies in MPAA which are against those drastic measures get their image hurt.
Just see the amount of "ban MPAA" and "don't buy MPAA / RIAA production" posts around the blog community and you'll see I'm right.
People now hate everyone who ever participated in the MPAA/RIAA.
Most companies try the best to look great to their customers, to appeal to young people. Microsoft is spending billions to make itself look smaller and more open.
MPAA and RIAA are spending billions to make headlines such as "MPAA sues grandpa without computer", "RIAA sues 13-year old girl for sharing mp3", "DRM technology in audio CD-s installs without a warning and opens your PC-s to hackers", "don't use the uninstaller, it leaves your PC even MORE open to hackers", "MPAA and RIAA join together to sue Earth and be done with it".
If I could separate myself from this twisted reality we live in, where this is supposed strategy to drive up sales, I'd say they are doing everything possible to make people hate them.
Why are you twisting the issue. Did I say "it's bad you can buy it on a CD". No. I said the license shouldn't allow abuse, and people should know they are paying for the CD not the software on it.
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"How about all the developers who use, enjoy, and write software exclusively for the Mac?"
Yea well those are: 1. Apple & 2. Hobbyists and small amateur companies.
I kinda don't see a serious business enjoying 2% market share and missing on the PC market, just cuz it's fun to sell less.
Predictions coming as funny little jokes. It happens all the time you know.
While Apple would never dump OSX, with the sheer amounts of people who bought MacTels based on pure speculations they may run Windows next to OSX, software developers will feel less pressure to develop Mac software, since Mac users can "just" boot Windows.
So even if OSX was teh omg bestest OS in the world, without software to make use of it, it's just a nice toy with a pretty interface.
something will knock them in the head and they'll realise that they can not only make huge disks the majority of consumers can't fill (yet) but they can also make smaller disks... :P
"Windows Is So Slow, but Why?"
So we assume it's slow and build an entire article upon it.. What if.. it's not "so slow" though? In my experience OSX and XP have comparable performance and there's definitely not something in XP that makes me say that is is "so slow".
What may make it slow is tons of startup programs, bulky drivers and software, licensing services and so on and so on, all 3rd party stuff.
What makes Windows so slow in the end though? Third party software does. I suppose OSX is really a lot better in that department, having a lot less software to cram on it, unfortunately.
"If IE 7 has a buffer overflow or exploit of some kind and tries to do something nasty it will always fail because it is running as a user with basically no privileges on the system."
Two questions remain unansered however, first how easy it will be for the exploits to simply start targeting the brokers (yes, diminished attack surface and so on but, you never know).
And how easy it will be for exploits to perform a privilege raising attack after saving their files to the temp files folder (where IE can save ok).
At the moment of IE execution those temp files can't do much anything. But if those files are later picked from an app that uses the HTML control or in other manner.. you have a prob.
That said, I still believe MS did a great job on this feature & definitely one of the highlights of Vista.
I this, I that ... newsflash, there's more in the world than you an your opinion :) for me as developer having both is golden, and I presume for businesses that want a transition from PC to Mac without ending up with machines that can't boot their previous OS it's even more so.
Lots of people bought MacTels based on the rumour alone they will be able to run Windows on it. Let's not dissapoint them or put words in their mouths that "this is mildly interesting from a geek perspective" only.
"The sad part is, I'd venture to guess in the next couple years, more games or even applications are going to require dual, triple or even quad video cards to reach a running state."
That'd be really sad if it was based on some facts, but you're just being fatalyst and speculating about stuff that won't happen. Half Life 2 and Doom 3 run on GeForce MX4, GeForce MX4!! That's a crappy DX7 card, no pixel shaders or anything, but anyway the games run smooth and is playable even if some special effects are missing or not as good as on the latest and greatest.
SLI is a niche, no sane game developer will EVER require quad SLI. This is insane to even suggest it.
"However, it does withstand the kick pretty impressively."
Yup, I mean what could soldiers want more? It may be harder to repair, way more expensive, terribly noisy, slow, stupid and untrainable in action but hey, you can kick it any time and be impressed!
Makes up for all the cons.
"Seriously, how many typical consumer-level folks are going to understand that the OS + addon combination is what the suffixes mean? Not many, and when they start to figure the combinations out, countless griping about the needless complexity will air."
How many typical consumer folks will use ANY off the add-ons the higher versions offer? You've just proved yourself MS is doing the right thing.
"I hate to sound like a World Vision commercial, but how the hell can we justify trying to use food as a fuel for our cars when there are millions of people in the world starving?"
Even worse, how can you justify yourself living and eating and drinking water, when millions of people are starving? Cut the pathetic "think of the children" crap, and maybe you can then turly start to make the world a better place.
Jeez.
"Or Vista. That is Vista home. Or home premium. Or business. Or richer business edition"
Stop the FUD machines, the difference between those are mostly features users can turn on or off anyway. As a basic example the Aero Glass skin can be turned off in Home Premium even if it's mandatory only in Basic.
It is stil the same damn OS.
The problem with Linux is not that it has 6 versions with some features turned off in some, but it has a zillion versions, each implemented in a different manner. Not entirely different, but different enough to make it a hell to create software for.
How many ways are there to interface sound in Windows? The basic API-s work in all versions of Windows, even those who use different driver models. Linux has at least a bunch of totally different sound systems that all need to be supported to get sound out of an app.
"Then I checked your posting history."
:)
You've probably missed I registered just couple of days ago
"you would realise that this time, Microsoft IS being utterly bone-headed"
.. uhmm... whatever sides, and ugly sides.
Oh of course it is, but every big company is. I mean for chris'sake Flash 6 was called:
Flash 6
but Flash 7 was called:
Macromedia Flash MX2004 Professional
Now Flash 8 is called:
Flash 8
The marketing folks are the probably the most boneheaded guys in every company. But you gotta love the corporate world with all it's
Microsoft in this case is clearly split between confusing their customers and providing more specialised solution, since, after all 90% of the desktops use Windows, and not all of those 90% have the SAME needs, this needs to be addressed.
Starter for example, why whine about it? It won't even be sold in USA or most civilised countries.
Enterprise: same, it's sold to enterprises, not end users.
We're left with versions: one for the business, one for basic home usage, one for home usage with eye candy, and one that has it all for those with the extra cash?
Confused?
Because I'm not.
Oh yea, me see Microsoft in article and me think: will bash Microsoft and get cool points on Slashdot! So here what me say:
Microsoft do it for evil purposes! They want to confuse people! They want world confused and then while confused sell them all XBOX-es, Origami phones and Media Center PC-s!
Nothing MS does it good, it all EVIL! All EVIL!
(so now I play the waiting game, sit here and refresh waiting be modded +5 Insightful by a bunch of Microsoft hating Linux users)
No actually the antitrust law says "to be investigated under this law, your company name should begin with [Micro] and end with [soft]"...
Hm, this siddenly explains a lot of stuff!
No actually the antitrust law says "to be investigated under this law, your company name should begin with > and end with >"...
Hm, this siddenly explains a lot of stuff!
... somehow fell right on top of another article in my brain: "Apple abandons OSX in favor of Windows". Dvorak did you write that? Hey I see you, Dvorak, don't hide!
"Computer makers should be able to choose which components, if any, they want to buy from Microsoft."
And let me tell you how it works in the real world: a lot of Windows application depend on the media and HTML rendering engines embeded in Windows, if removed and replaced with other ones, said applications will crash, malfunction or at best simply refuse to work on such a crippled OS.
Nobody tells Apple what to do with their OS. Reasoning? Because they sell their own computers, by MS leaves that choice to you? Where's the logic.
Most of the computer manifacturers already bundle their Windows installations with other media players and browsers (DELL actually sells PC-s with Firefox in Britain right now), so it's not as if they don't have the choice if they want to customize their solution.
Thing is, the vast majority of customers hate the crap the PC manifacturers plaster on top of their installs, they are far more careless in doing so compared to the bundled apps in Windows that MS develops.
Plus a modern OS is hardly just a bare core that runs threads on it. It's as a matter of fact a bundle of components working together, bringing rich experience to the people's computers. If that OS has removed parts or swapped parts, then how can it be really said it's the same OS at all?
Should we bundle our own HTML/Media components and codecs with every single damn app we develop instead of relying on the tested and proved components Windows provides?
The fate of this "special" Windows will be the same as Windows N in EU - available, but noone gives a damn about it. Why buy a broken product?
"These other companies remain virtually anonymous, while the RIAA and MPAA get the bad press. Work out very well for them."
People are very good at generalisations, and don't take away that ability from them. It's very simple really:
Hollywood Production = MPAA "production" (technicalities left aside)
Big Labels Production = RIAA "production" (same)
So don't get fooled anyone is remaining anonymous, quite the opposite: companies get dragged in that have nothing to do with it.
"It's one advantage to being a cartel assosciation. It's always "the RIAA" or "the MPAA" doing the suing. The individual companies aren't being assosciated with the bad publicity."
The effect is the opposite. People see all of those member companies being transformed into this bad MPAA/RIAA entity and instead even companies in MPAA which are against those drastic measures get their image hurt.
Just see the amount of "ban MPAA" and "don't buy MPAA / RIAA production" posts around the blog community and you'll see I'm right.
People now hate everyone who ever participated in the MPAA/RIAA.
"Erm, you forget something. The MPAA/RIAA have a market which they fully control"
Not for long, the independent productions are picking momentum.
Most companies try the best to look great to their customers, to appeal to young people. Microsoft is spending billions to make itself look smaller and more open.
MPAA and RIAA are spending billions to make headlines such as "MPAA sues grandpa without computer", "RIAA sues 13-year old girl for sharing mp3", "DRM technology in audio CD-s installs without a warning and opens your PC-s to hackers", "don't use the uninstaller, it leaves your PC even MORE open to hackers", "MPAA and RIAA join together to sue Earth and be done with it".
If I could separate myself from this twisted reality we live in, where this is supposed strategy to drive up sales, I'd say they are doing everything possible to make people hate them.
Why are you twisting the issue. Did I say "it's bad you can buy it on a CD". No. I said the license shouldn't allow abuse, and people should know they are paying for the CD not the software on it.
What's wrong with all of you?
"God preserve us from idiots..."
:)
You're setting up God for a big paradox here
You're right :( This is however, unnenforcable, and totally pointless. I pitty the money spent on this patent.
Adobe / W3C / MS will need to respond to this to calm down the crowds.