If I ever wanted to play the 'dreadfully easy' sockpuppet game Twitter (and I don't), I wouldn't be so stupid as to establish a conversation where I take on multiple identities in the same thread.
I didn't answer anything because you didn't say anything of any worth.
Email from the guy who did it has been presented in court twice. He's the one who called developers "pawns and one night stands".
No sources as requested.
Peter Quinn [slashdot.org], RMS, Bruce Perens, Eric Raymond and so on and so forth.
One link which says nothing of the sort, one full of speculation, and no actual proof provided.
Mono is a good example of both poison and fight feeding.
Co-operation is not co-option. I'm not seeing anything in your link other than further speculation and no facts.
I would describe such fights as driven by M$ misinformation.
No proof, or even a reasonable attempt to provide evidence from a different point of view. I can show you instances where what you say has driven other Open Source users to denounce your position, and more high-profile splits because of other more radical activists such as Stallman - unless you would describe the relationship between Stallman and someone like Theo de Raadt as friendly, in which case I don't think I can help you.
Both are only useful for Windows users and both are inferior to free software offerings.
Feature comparison? Even the name of another competing product in either market? No.
Please stop trying to fool people on the sockpuppet issue, Twitter. You've basically admitted it already, I don't know why you bother, other than to further insult people's intelligence.
I find it a pity that you took my post as a personal attack rather than what it was, which was an attempt to build a bridge and actually engage you in dialogue. Not only that, but you had to break out another sockpuppet to do it.
When people ask me why I don't try this with you, I'm going to give them this link.
If the agreement was harmful to Open Source, Novell as a company should not have signed it. I would wager that it wasn't, because since then absolutely nothing negative has come of it save the FSF blustering and posturing and Microsoft doing the same. Nobody has yet shown what harm has been done to Linux as a whole as a result of the deal, save complaints over the restructured GPL. On the contrary, there's a story right here on Slashdot about the increase in Linux installations across the UK.
Save that, I don't think you answered a single question I raised.
- The only link I can find for 'selling inferior tools to Lotus' is to a Roughly Drafted article that, as usual, fails to cite sources. Can you provide any? I'd be interested to read them.
- You say that Microsoft actively smear advocates of freedom - can you show me one example?
- What you call co-option others call co-operation. Can you explain why you feel that Microsoft helping Novell to create an OSS version of.NET is 'poison'?
- Can you give me an example of Microsoft creating fights between OSS developers? All the ones I have seen publicised on Slashdot have been the inevitable result of the politicisation of OSS and FOSS by people such as yourself.
- We all know you hate Vista, but what in your view is wrong with IIS and Visual Studio? I'm assuming you're going to cite security issues with IIS, but IIS 6 has had only one known remote code execution hole, and even that cannot run code with more privileges than IIS itself is given. Furthermore, Visual Studio is highly rated by most who have used it.
I write this in the interest of furthering discourse, but I have to admit I'm not holding my breath. I hope you surprise me.
So did Maxthon and Opera, regardless of how they got them.
From the evidence, I don't honestly think that you can attribute the idea of tabs to one particular side of the OSS/proprietary spectrum. Firefox was more widely spread than Opera at the time that IE took the idea, so I guess you can say they stole it from OSS, though it's very, very dubious.
Actually, tabbed browsing originated in closed source browsers, not Firefox. It's a bit of a toss-up as to whether Opera or MyIE/Maxthon got there first, but neither is OSS.
Well, Microsoft, a company famed around here for 'planned obsolescence', managed to patch both XP and 2000. You'll note that both of those are more than 7 years old.
Sorry, I haven't, having been subjected to multiple downward moderations for making pro-Microsoft comments. It's a universal phenomenon which I suspect is down to people thinking that saying something they don't agree with is trolling.
Anyway, as stated by another poster, if you browse at 1 you can't see a single pro-MS comment on the first page...
Actually, thinking about it, I remember you now - you foed me because I explained this to you before and you must have decided I'm a shill... because I don't agree with you. Gotta love how these things come back around.
Whether a game is playable or not is irrelevant to this particular debate - if you want games to look better, or better-looking games to run faster, then you need more power.
How can you say it was or wasn't when there is only one one significant OS vendor?
There are plenty of OS vendors, and substantially more that give their OS away for free. Yet, the combination of all those people haven't managed to expand out into more than 10% of the market. I can pretty confidently say that XP wasn't a flop.
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If I ever wanted to play the 'dreadfully easy' sockpuppet game Twitter (and I don't), I wouldn't be so stupid as to establish a conversation where I take on multiple identities in the same thread.
I'm surprised that you haven't got that yet.
I didn't answer anything because you didn't say anything of any worth.
Email from the guy who did it has been presented in court twice. He's the one who called developers "pawns and one night stands".
No sources as requested.
Peter Quinn [slashdot.org], RMS, Bruce Perens, Eric Raymond and so on and so forth.
One link which says nothing of the sort, one full of speculation, and no actual proof provided.
Mono is a good example of both poison and fight feeding.
Co-operation is not co-option. I'm not seeing anything in your link other than further speculation and no facts.
I would describe such fights as driven by M$ misinformation.
No proof, or even a reasonable attempt to provide evidence from a different point of view. I can show you instances where what you say has driven other Open Source users to denounce your position, and more high-profile splits because of other more radical activists such as Stallman - unless you would describe the relationship between Stallman and someone like Theo de Raadt as friendly, in which case I don't think I can help you.
Both are only useful for Windows users and both are inferior to free software offerings.
Feature comparison? Even the name of another competing product in either market? No.
Please stop trying to fool people on the sockpuppet issue, Twitter. You've basically admitted it already, I don't know why you bother, other than to further insult people's intelligence.
I find it a pity that you took my post as a personal attack rather than what it was, which was an attempt to build a bridge and actually engage you in dialogue. Not only that, but you had to break out another sockpuppet to do it.
When people ask me why I don't try this with you, I'm going to give them this link.
City of Heroes?
Planetside?
Tabula Rasa?
There's more out there than people think.
And you are...?
If the agreement was harmful to Open Source, Novell as a company should not have signed it. I would wager that it wasn't, because since then absolutely nothing negative has come of it save the FSF blustering and posturing and Microsoft doing the same. Nobody has yet shown what harm has been done to Linux as a whole as a result of the deal, save complaints over the restructured GPL. On the contrary, there's a story right here on Slashdot about the increase in Linux installations across the UK.
Save that, I don't think you answered a single question I raised.
I'm probably going to regret this, but here goes:
- The only link I can find for 'selling inferior tools to Lotus' is to a Roughly Drafted article that, as usual, fails to cite sources. Can you provide any? I'd be interested to read them.
- You say that Microsoft actively smear advocates of freedom - can you show me one example?
- What you call co-option others call co-operation. Can you explain why you feel that Microsoft helping Novell to create an OSS version of .NET is 'poison'?
- Can you give me an example of Microsoft creating fights between OSS developers? All the ones I have seen publicised on Slashdot have been the inevitable result of the politicisation of OSS and FOSS by people such as yourself.
- We all know you hate Vista, but what in your view is wrong with IIS and Visual Studio? I'm assuming you're going to cite security issues with IIS, but IIS 6 has had only one known remote code execution hole, and even that cannot run code with more privileges than IIS itself is given. Furthermore, Visual Studio is highly rated by most who have used it.
I write this in the interest of furthering discourse, but I have to admit I'm not holding my breath. I hope you surprise me.
So did Maxthon and Opera, regardless of how they got them.
From the evidence, I don't honestly think that you can attribute the idea of tabs to one particular side of the OSS/proprietary spectrum. Firefox was more widely spread than Opera at the time that IE took the idea, so I guess you can say they stole it from OSS, though it's very, very dubious.
Actually, tabbed browsing originated in closed source browsers, not Firefox. It's a bit of a toss-up as to whether Opera or MyIE/Maxthon got there first, but neither is OSS.
Really interesting stuff.
I might go google it and see what I can find.
I tell you what he should do - he should give all the money away. That way, he wouldn't be able to give any money ever again.
No, wait, that's a fucking stupid idea, and you should really think hard about this stuff before you post.
And the brainpower to work out which end of the stick to hit someone with...
Try being honest, then we'll discuss things on-topic.
In the meantime, using a third shill account is hardly impressive. How are people expected to believe what you say when you post from behind a lie?
Oh come on, you're not even trying. People have known about the Erris sockpuppet for years.
Well, Microsoft, a company famed around here for 'planned obsolescence', managed to patch both XP and 2000. You'll note that both of those are more than 7 years old.
I'm a douchefag, and so's my... er... husband!
No thanks - I'm pretty sure twitter is capable of ruining Slashdot all on his own.
So, why do you flame GNU/Linux advocates when there is nothing useful to say?
I don't know - why do you flame Microsoft when you don't have anything useful to say?
Sorry, I haven't, having been subjected to multiple downward moderations for making pro-Microsoft comments. It's a universal phenomenon which I suspect is down to people thinking that saying something they don't agree with is trolling.
Anyway, as stated by another poster, if you browse at 1 you can't see a single pro-MS comment on the first page...
Actually, thinking about it, I remember you now - you foed me because I explained this to you before and you must have decided I'm a shill... because I don't agree with you. Gotta love how these things come back around.
OH NO, I'M ATTACKING MYSELF!
Everybody flee - if the anti-me touches the real me there will be a terrible, reality-ending explosion.
Actually, Home Basic is 8GB, Home Premium is 16GB, and the rest are 128GB.
Whether a game is playable or not is irrelevant to this particular debate - if you want games to look better, or better-looking games to run faster, then you need more power.
I can't believe I have to actually explain that.
There's no KB because that functionality is already in Vista. I don't know what GP is doing but it pops up very noticably.
"XP wasn't a flop"
How can you say it was or wasn't when there is only one one significant OS vendor?
There are plenty of OS vendors, and substantially more that give their OS away for free. Yet, the combination of all those people haven't managed to expand out into more than 10% of the market. I can pretty confidently say that XP wasn't a flop.
MS didn't support OpenGL very well
The people at OpenGL think otherwise.
FUCK BLIZZARD, STOP PLAYING WoW RIGHT NOW FOR THE LOVE OF FREEDOM!!!
On the contrary - bots were part of the reason I stopped playing in the first place, so I'm off to reactivate my account.
Toodles!