> You seem to care more about NVIDIA's image than about what the Linux community actually needs.
I find it hard to come up with a course of action that would improve NVIDIA's image among kernel maintainers without giving them what they need. He wants people to want to work with NVIDIA stuff which would obviously require both giving the maintainers what they need and doing stuff they they don't necessarily need but wouldn't mind at all.
Asking this question he doesn't just get suggestions of how to make it easier to run NVIDIA hardware on desktop Linux, but also on what about working with NVIDIA irritates the maintainers; fixing those means more maintainers *using* NVIDIA (and so testing it) if not specifically fixing it.
I've heard good things about Fedora and OpenSUSE's packaging of KDE, but my fondness for dpkg means I've not yet given them the chance.
Debian's seems less bonkers than Ubuntu's, but I'm not a KDE user so I don't know how much of that bonkers is KDE and how much is Debian's packaging of it.
I'm not really sure that Unity is a tablet UI. They've replaced a menu with a search box, do tablet UIs normally involve more typing and less pointing?
I thought that, as with this idea of dropping Banshee was just an idea posited at UDS, rather than a decision that's been taken? They wanted to come up with plans of what to do with the rest of a 1GB/2GB USB stick.
If the patents are valid and would most likely hold up in a court challenge why should MS be criticized for taking advantage of it?
Well, for a start, 'legal' doesn't equate to 'right' - something being legal to do doesn't render it beyond criticism.
But it's also quite widely accepted that the patent system is broken - even if you decide that software patents are in themselves permissible, the length of protection the 'inventor' gets from it compared to the pace of innovation in the industry is completely contrary to the original intent of the patent - if anything, the complaint is that this might well hold up in court more than that anybody in particular is doing it.
It's been reported elsewhere (though I have no link to hand) that the actual change isn't that Telstra are deciding to not implement it at all, but that they're considering only implementing the anti-naked-children bit of it, and not the other list, given that not many people are likely to stand up and say "Don't cut off my nekkid children!"
Of course, it'd still be a step in that direction (and, yes, once the tech's there I imagine quietly adding URLs wont be hard at all), but it sort-of goes some way to explaining why the other list isn't being mentioned.
The IWF isn't compulsory, though, it's just that ISPs can play the think-of-the-children card against each other. A&A, for example, don't use the IWF filter.
This plan, as I understand it, doesn't provide for such a choice.
Ah, the old "why are you protesting against us and not against every other shit state in the world, you must be anti-semites!"-argument
No, the old playing-a-gig-in-the-country-doesn't-suggest-support-for-every-policy-of-that-country's-government statement. There was nothing about zionism or anti-semitism there at all. He even referred to it as 'occupation'!
"And the reactor design was not safe. They raised safety concerns about it back in the '60s but the manufacturer did not want to address the problem because it would have cost money. Time for you to take that nuclear reactor out of your ass. "
Because you're just generally interested in the browser on the majority of desktops round the world perhaps getting closer to being standards adherent?
Do you just completely ignore stories on any piece of software that you don't use?
Another good reason to work in mph! :)
> You seem to care more about NVIDIA's image than about what the Linux community actually needs.
I find it hard to come up with a course of action that would improve NVIDIA's image among kernel maintainers without giving them what they need. He wants people to want to work with NVIDIA stuff which would obviously require both giving the maintainers what they need and doing stuff they they don't necessarily need but wouldn't mind at all.
Asking this question he doesn't just get suggestions of how to make it easier to run NVIDIA hardware on desktop Linux, but also on what about working with NVIDIA irritates the maintainers; fixing those means more maintainers *using* NVIDIA (and so testing it) if not specifically fixing it.
I've heard good things about Fedora and OpenSUSE's packaging of KDE, but my fondness for dpkg means I've not yet given them the chance.
Debian's seems less bonkers than Ubuntu's, but I'm not a KDE user so I don't know how much of that bonkers is KDE and how much is Debian's packaging of it.
Kubuntu's never really been a good way to use KDE. I don't have much love of KDE, but many people package it better than Ubuntu.
If what you want is old Gnome just use XFCE; Xubuntu in canonical-speak.
I'm not really sure that Unity is a tablet UI. They've replaced a menu with a search box, do tablet UIs normally involve more typing and less pointing?
Yeah, likewise.
You're a couple of decades late. These days Israel is ALWAYS the aggressor from what I hear.
I thought that, as with this idea of dropping Banshee was just an idea posited at UDS, rather than a decision that's been taken? They wanted to come up with plans of what to do with the rest of a 1GB/2GB USB stick.
Showing someone a fishing rod != teaching them to fish
That's exactly the sort of place I'd expect them to be recruiting.
Because they've nothing much to win from doing that?
Samsung's might be quite willing to pay $15 per device. They're probably not about to stop shipping Android because of it.
No, that's probably Bing you're thinking of.
I'd assumed he meant OpenMoko, but the answer to his question in that case is obvious.
And the best bit is that this sort of a campaign really wouldn't look out of place in the News of the World.
Well, it's the sort of thing the tabloids would do...
If the patents are valid and would most likely hold up in a court challenge why should MS be criticized for taking advantage of it?
Well, for a start, 'legal' doesn't equate to 'right' - something being legal to do doesn't render it beyond criticism.
But it's also quite widely accepted that the patent system is broken - even if you decide that software patents are in themselves permissible, the length of protection the 'inventor' gets from it compared to the pace of innovation in the industry is completely contrary to the original intent of the patent - if anything, the complaint is that this might well hold up in court more than that anybody in particular is doing it.
Is there an advantage to the non-adb methods?
It's been reported elsewhere (though I have no link to hand) that the actual change isn't that Telstra are deciding to not implement it at all, but that they're considering only implementing the anti-naked-children bit of it, and not the other list, given that not many people are likely to stand up and say "Don't cut off my nekkid children!"
Of course, it'd still be a step in that direction (and, yes, once the tech's there I imagine quietly adding URLs wont be hard at all), but it sort-of goes some way to explaining why the other list isn't being mentioned.
I think the plan is to keep it in Sellafield until it's fe; that building a proper place to put it wont be political suicide, and then doing that.
It seems to be one of those things that nobody really wants to decide upon, though.
The IWF isn't compulsory, though, it's just that ISPs can play the think-of-the-children card against each other. A&A, for example, don't use the IWF filter.
This plan, as I understand it, doesn't provide for such a choice.
Ah, the old "why are you protesting against us and not against every other shit state in the world, you must be anti-semites!"-argument
No, the old playing-a-gig-in-the-country-doesn't-suggest-support-for-every-policy-of-that-country's-government statement. There was nothing about zionism or anti-semitism there at all. He even referred to it as 'occupation'!
"And the reactor design was not safe. They raised safety concerns about it back in the '60s but the manufacturer did not want to address the problem because it would have cost money. Time for you to take that nuclear reactor out of your ass. "
Surely this only further reinforces his point?
That depends upon your version of 'free'.
GPL forces the freedom of derivatives, BSD retains the freedom to make non-free derivatives.
To some, without the enforced 'freedom' it's not truly free. To others, with the enforced freedom it's not really free.
This isn't an argument anybody is about to win.
Because you're just generally interested in the browser on the majority of desktops round the world perhaps getting closer to being standards adherent?
Do you just completely ignore stories on any piece of software that you don't use?
Or, perhaps, offline-imap or fetchmail if all you're looking to back up is your mail.