a tech tape/backup company that was just recently mentioned in another subject I know had a p-tube system installed in their new building built maybe 7 or so years ago. Lots of drive-up banking uses them too.
Yes, my level of cynicism and not infrequent outright sarcasm is a delightful talent being honed to perfection in this job. Lock 'em in, take their money, read them the EULA and chuckle all the way to the bank.
What I see McSE's as are like the folks with the brooms who follow the elephants in the parade: the animals get the peanuts & attention and the McSE's get to sweep up the dung. Meaning, the salesfolks make their awesome presentations, hoodwink entire corporations and the McSE is there to do the patches, rebooting, and other various and sundry rites of exorcism while the poor owners cuss at 'em and bemoan the loss of office productivity for all the outages, downages and inconviences.
Haha - any fool to gives their entire career to the capricious whims of a tyrranical, overbearing business deserves to be left broke and forgotten. I prefer *real* computer science, not memorizing Bills favorite color of the month or what butten is hidden in what window. Besides, if you learn a *real* computer system windows is easy, since it's just Unix for the command line challenged. My B.S.E.E. is valuable; my McSE is just a quickie trade like muffler repair or hairdressing, my 'day' job to fund personal projects.
Maybe the powers that be don't like being stymied and reduced in significance by populace empowering technology they don't understand - but resorting to the ancient 'divide & conquor' probably isn't going to work, anymore than trying to prevent one country from broadcasting propaganda to external interested parties or even to spies via short wave radio, other than 'jamming'. Not unless IP address's are redistributed by nations with a bunch of govt. controlled routers overseeing all ingress/egress - a major pain.
"... Linux is going to continue to be all hype," said Mike Daher, vice president at MicroStandard Distributors.
MicroStandard Distributors, in Redmond, Wash., is at..."
A little payola there maybe? Afraid any impact on Msft is going to effect the ol' local economy and the Redmond standard of living? We know boats are selling well there!
Well, Mike - unlike Msft, nobody's trying to FORCE you to utilize Linux - instead of bitching at a developers conference just install NT4 or 2K and call for all the support you want! It's really that simple.
When we went looking for NT4 cert training in 97 I was gasping at one local Institute that wanted nearly $10,000 for a complete set of instructor led courses!! And *I* had to go to THEIR classrooms! We eventually settled for a $1000 set of books/vid-tapes and lots of midnight oil, plus the $600 for the set of exams. Now that that will be obsolete in 12/2001, I get a dialy lesson out of/usr/doc without paying a cent to anyone.
uce@ftc.gov to 'register'. Since all uce I get is forwarded to uce@ftc.gov with no consideration, I figure, why not just cut out the middle man (me) and have them send it directly to it's final destination?
Actually I haven't 'registered' for anything 'free' in a long time now anyway.
I'm gleefully dreaming of winning a lottery and using the proceedings to setup a good Anti-UCE shop and tossing every weapon available at making some marketeers regret ever having even though of using email as a promotional medium!
Ok, the MARS candy company (quite wealthy), in the millennium year 2000 (that's MM in Roman numerals) heavily sponsers Mission to Mars. Any other hidden self-promotional meanings in there?
A couple of quotes: "If I can see farther, it's because I stand on the sholders of giants" - i.e., if I come up with a great new idea, it always contains someone else's prior art, and "Ideas are the property of the person who created it".
Basically, if you create or broker info and want to profit either marginally or massively by it, you're all for copyright protection and enforcement. If your an info consumer trying to maximize utility at the lowest possible cost, then you want 'free' copies. There will always be this tension between producers and consumers as long as info producers and consumers exist.
at least not according to a lookup here altho I'd love to find a silly one like that in the database.
All I can add is, after grad. in '82 I went to the PTO and worked in the "info storage and retrival" section for a summer - it's a ruff job, slogging thru all the legalese and trying to shoot 'em down, but that's the examiners job. I had a few pat. applications, several actually, which were just 'burn a program into a 2716 ROM and patent the ROM' (REJECT!!). I actually was about to issue a Patent on a few but my supervisors said, "What's so new about this" and quickly produced a document that preceeded it if you interpret it broadly enough. They kept emphasizing 'broad' thinking - that is, if someone tries to patent a memory scheme that is implemented electrically in Si chips, you can reject it with a 'similar' memory scheme implemented mechanically in wooden disks and dowell rods.
You can still create 'great technology' like very large scale integration and still space the pins 1/10 of an inch. You might even say that using a more complex system based on the mystical 360 forces you to think more, whereas a simple-minded 'power-of-10' system leads to a flabby, lazy intellect:)) For a short time during the French Rev. they even had a system of TIME based on 10! So why DON'T we have, like 100 seconds/minute, 100 minutes/hour, and maybe 20 hours/day? Then our technology would be even better.
I'd say a lot of US citizens are quite famalier w/ metric, it's taught in schools, all my auto tools are metric (for a VW and a Chevy "Suzuki" Sprint) and having a electrical engr. degree all college work in physics, etc is done in MKS. Also look at the National Institute of Standards and Technology fee schedule and see lots of referances to mm. But yes, roads are still measured in miles, oil in quarts, milk in gallons. It's slowly changing that direction, but what do you expect from a country with 97 year old senators?
They'll should see a positive return for letting their creative people do some interesting things with their own systems, instead of just boot licking the same ol' same ol' boring Monopolsoft boots.
Hey, this is a project which will not only greatly advance the medical profession and lead to vast improvements in the quality of human wellbeing and discoveries of new treatments for incurable diseases, but bring in fantastic profits for hospitals and the pharmaceutical industry as well - doctors should have no say in the matter.
Chuck - who's genetic makeup is protected by copyright law and international treaty. Any unauthorised use or reproduction (?!) may result in severe civil and criminal penalties and will be prosecuted to the maximum extent possible under the law. This genetic material is presented "as is" without warrenty, express or implied, as to merchantability or fitness for survival.
Altho you have to register and scribble your name down and provide ID to vote, the actual voting is done behind curtains so one can vote their conscience w/o caving to peer pressure, fear of retribution etc.
you should be able to find, beg or borrow a real inexpensive 486 or P100 or something w/ a CD, 8 megs and maybe 200 megs disk, get a set of the latest distro and got for it. I've even installed FreeBSD from floppies. You can really do a lot w/ linux on obsolete gear, as long as it's not broken or intermittant. I spent nearly ALL my 1st job income on computer stuff, and the closest thing my school had was a programmable calculator.
it kinda reminds me of an old Star Trek (1st gen) episode where some planet was in the midst of a war, but it was all computer simulated, and whoever lost a virtual 'battle' had to send a bunch of people to a death chamber. So if China ran a simulation of an ICBM launched at LA, pitted against a US simulation of a 'star wars' ABM missile trying to knock it out of the sky, and the US missed, we'd have to bump off a bunch of LA residents, all with no messy radiation or destruction of property!
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a tech tape/backup company that was just recently mentioned in another subject I know had a p-tube system installed in their new building built maybe 7 or so years ago. Lots of drive-up banking uses them too.
Yes, my level of cynicism and not infrequent outright sarcasm is a delightful talent being honed to perfection in this job. Lock 'em in, take their money, read them the EULA and chuckle all the way to the bank.
What I see McSE's as are like the folks with the brooms who follow the elephants in the parade: the animals get the peanuts & attention and the McSE's get to sweep up the dung. Meaning, the salesfolks make their awesome presentations, hoodwink entire corporations and the McSE is there to do the patches, rebooting, and other various and sundry rites of exorcism while the poor owners cuss at 'em and bemoan the loss of office productivity for all the outages, downages and inconviences.
Haha - any fool to gives their entire career to the capricious whims of a tyrranical, overbearing business deserves to be left broke and forgotten. I prefer *real* computer science, not memorizing Bills favorite color of the month or what butten is hidden in what window. Besides, if you learn a *real* computer system windows is easy, since it's just Unix for the command line challenged. My B.S.E.E. is valuable; my McSE is just a quickie trade like muffler repair or hairdressing, my 'day' job to fund personal projects.
Maybe the powers that be don't like being stymied and reduced in significance by populace empowering technology they don't understand - but resorting to the ancient 'divide & conquor' probably isn't going to work, anymore than trying to prevent one country from broadcasting propaganda to external interested parties or even to spies via short wave radio, other than 'jamming'. Not unless IP address's are redistributed by nations with a bunch of govt. controlled routers overseeing all ingress/egress - a major pain.
"... Linux is going to continue to be all hype," said Mike Daher, vice president at MicroStandard Distributors.
..."
/usr/doc without paying a cent to anyone.
MicroStandard Distributors, in Redmond, Wash., is at
A little payola there maybe? Afraid any impact on Msft is going to effect the ol' local economy and the Redmond standard of living? We know boats are selling well there!
Well, Mike - unlike Msft, nobody's trying to FORCE you to utilize Linux - instead of bitching at a developers conference just install NT4 or 2K and call for all the support you want! It's really that simple.
When we went looking for NT4 cert training in 97 I was gasping at one local Institute that wanted nearly $10,000 for a complete set of instructor led courses!! And *I* had to go to THEIR classrooms! We eventually settled for a $1000 set of books/vid-tapes and lots of midnight oil, plus the $600 for the set of exams. Now that that will be obsolete in 12/2001, I get a dialy lesson out of
Self supporting, and darn good at it.
uce@ftc.gov to 'register'. Since all uce I get is forwarded to uce@ftc.gov with no consideration, I figure, why not just cut out the middle man (me) and have them send it directly to it's final destination?
Actually I haven't 'registered' for anything 'free' in a long time now anyway.
I'm gleefully dreaming of winning a lottery and using the proceedings to setup a good Anti-UCE shop and tossing every weapon available at making some marketeers regret ever having even though of using email as a promotional medium!
Send money, guns and lawyers.
Ok, the MARS candy company (quite wealthy), in the millennium year 2000 (that's MM in Roman numerals) heavily sponsers Mission to Mars. Any other hidden self-promotional meanings in there?
A couple of quotes: "If I can see farther, it's because I stand on the sholders of giants" - i.e., if I come up with a great new idea, it always contains someone else's prior art, and "Ideas are the property of the person who created it".
Basically, if you create or broker info and want to profit either marginally or massively by it, you're all for copyright protection and enforcement. If your an info consumer trying to maximize utility at the lowest possible cost, then you want 'free' copies. There will always be this tension between producers and consumers as long as info producers and consumers exist.
at least not according to a lookup here altho I'd love to find a silly one like that in the database.
All I can add is, after grad. in '82 I went to the PTO and worked in the "info storage and retrival" section for a summer - it's a ruff job, slogging thru all the legalese and trying to shoot 'em down, but that's the examiners job. I had a few pat. applications, several actually, which were just 'burn a program into a 2716 ROM and patent the ROM' (REJECT!!). I actually was about to issue a Patent on a few but my supervisors said, "What's so new about this" and quickly produced a document that preceeded it if you interpret it broadly enough. They kept emphasizing 'broad' thinking - that is, if someone tries to patent a memory scheme that is implemented electrically in Si chips, you can reject it with a 'similar' memory scheme implemented mechanically in wooden disks and dowell rods.
the way they used to.
You can still create 'great technology' like very large scale integration and still space the pins 1/10 of an inch. You might even say that using a more complex system based on the mystical 360 forces you to think more, whereas a simple-minded 'power-of-10' system leads to a flabby, lazy intellect :)) For a short time during the French Rev. they even had a system of TIME based on 10! So why DON'T we have, like 100 seconds/minute, 100 minutes/hour, and maybe 20 hours/day? Then our technology would be even better.
I'd say a lot of US citizens are quite famalier w/ metric, it's taught in schools, all my auto tools are metric (for a VW and a Chevy "Suzuki" Sprint) and having a electrical engr. degree all college work in physics, etc is done in MKS. Also look at the National Institute of Standards and Technology fee schedule and see lots of referances to mm. But yes, roads are still measured in miles, oil in quarts, milk in gallons. It's slowly changing that direction, but what do you expect from a country with 97 year old senators?
They'll should see a positive return for letting their creative people do some interesting things with their own systems, instead of just boot licking the same ol' same ol' boring Monopolsoft boots.
pigeon. They're obviously using baby pigeons for genetic research, geez.
It must be quitting time.
Hey, this is a project which will not only greatly advance the medical profession and lead to vast improvements in the quality of human wellbeing and discoveries of new treatments for incurable diseases, but bring in fantastic profits for hospitals and the pharmaceutical industry as well - doctors should have no say in the matter.
Chuck - who's genetic makeup is protected by copyright law and international treaty. Any unauthorised use or reproduction (?!) may result in severe civil and criminal penalties and will be prosecuted to the maximum extent possible under the law. This genetic material is presented "as is" without warrenty, express or implied, as to merchantability or fitness for survival.
oh, I thought you had to have been castrated to operate one. Whew.
the day Rush Limbaugh delivers the commencement speech at a liberal arts college....
a fave trick is "mkdir " makes a nice almost invisible directory. "cd ", and "rmdir ".
That's better.
a fave trick is "mkdir " makes a nice almost invisible directory. "cd ", and "rmdir ".
Altho you have to register and scribble your name down and provide ID to vote, the actual voting is done behind curtains so one can vote their conscience w/o caving to peer pressure, fear of retribution etc.
who has to blow up one of those 'inflatable cities' - an air mattress is bad enough.
I guess pins are illegal in there, too.
C'ya!
Well, that just congealed a fuzzy feeling into a concrete idea - thanks! Dang, you learn something new everyday here...
More karma, please! Just might make Nirvana this lifetime.
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Here comes the plug:
you should be able to find, beg or borrow a real inexpensive 486 or P100 or something w/ a CD, 8 megs and maybe 200 megs disk, get a set of the latest distro and got for it. I've even installed FreeBSD from floppies. You can really do a lot w/ linux on obsolete gear, as long as it's not broken or intermittant. I spent nearly ALL my 1st job income on computer stuff, and the closest thing my school had was a programmable calculator.
it kinda reminds me of an old Star Trek (1st gen) episode where some planet was in the midst of a war, but it was all computer simulated, and whoever lost a virtual 'battle' had to send a bunch of people to a death chamber.
So if China ran a simulation of an ICBM launched at LA, pitted against a US simulation of a 'star wars' ABM missile trying to knock it out of the sky, and the US missed, we'd have to bump off a bunch of LA residents, all with no messy radiation or destruction of property!