Take your country, look at gun ownership. You think it makes you safer. And yet you're more likely to be killed by a gun than someone living in Ireland during the troubles.
Northern Ireland has a high rate of gun ownership - including handguns.
A key issue is the unfettered immigration. While non-EU migration is higher than EU the British people have had very few chances to vote against any migration, so the opportunity to send a very strong message to the politicians was taken.
Even inhibiting EU migration will help. Continued pressure on politicians can then be applied to the rest. This is a real issue for many people in the country that's been ignored by the politicians for far too long and it's not the only one.
Leaving the EU wont fix everything but it's a start.
In 1975 the UK did not vote to remain in the EU. They voted to stay in the EEC, a common trading block.
I think there would be strong support now to stay in a strong trading group with other European nations. Unfortunately the EU doesn't want to offer that, instead demanding political control too.
Why did the leave campaigners re-vote on the issue multiple times until they got the answer they wanted
There has only ever been one referendum on the EU itself, and it was 41 years after the referendum on the EEC. So sure, come back in 2057 and ask about whatever the EU morphs into then.
You very well know the first past the post system pretty much ensures that those two parties command by far the majority of the votes almost no matter what.
There were zero ballot papers which had only those two parties on them, so there were always other options.
There was also the option of spoiling your ballot paper to indicate dissatisfaction.
Instead 80% of the votes went to parties promising to get on with leaving the EU.
Now what you failed to mention is that in a very unusual move, neither managed to command a majority.
What the 'first past the post' approach did was turn those 80% of the votes into over 87% of the seats in the House.
I'd call that a pretty fucking massive majority of seats elected to get the UK out of Europe.
National support for 'no deal' is now 46%. People would rather suffer economically than continue being fucked over by the combination of parliament and the EU.
Parliament can't be said to have "Sabotaged" a process flawed by false information from the start
What, like economic collapse, housing market collapse, mass unemployment and the risk of global conflict? None of which have happened, despite promises from the remain camp.
they said millions of dollars was going to be saved on healthcare alone
Who said that?
Oh, nobody. Well, nobody representing the 'leave' campaigns anyway. People wanting to stay in the EU constantly lie about the leave arguments, so thanks for confirming you want the UK to remain.
Parliament rightfully dragged their feet in coming to impossible(!) realizations that there IS NO GOOD SOLUTION to do it like this.
What makes you think I give a shit about a good solution. I'll settle for a shit solution, because it's still better than being in the EU.
May tried, you can't say she didn't try.
I tried to win the F1 World Championship. Now admittedly I didn't even get in a car, but you can't say I didn't try.
In the end the EU said "no, go fuck yourselves, no free lunch."
Of course they did. They were always going to. The only thing that would stop them was the economic damage that could cause them, and it was the UK parliament (and May's inability to negotiate) that allowed the EU to blithely ignore that possibility.
Renegotiate the entire thing, or stay in. Those are the choices now.
The EU wont renegotiate so I'll take option 3: Just fucking leave.
They were promised a bill of goods that was never possible, and further an unrealistic pretend-option that didn't ever exist about a soft-exit from the EU that wouldn't break the bank.
They were promised a fuckload of shit by the Government with dire warnings galore, and still went "That's better than being in the EU"
No deal = breaks the bank, the borders, the everything. It's retarded to say people voted to do that.
Apparently democracy is asking the people once for their uninformed consent and then have them live with that forever.
Not at all, it took maybe too long but after the 1975 vote for the EEC the UK was indeed given a chance to vote on the EU.
Admittedly long after we'd been promised a vote on the Lisbon Treaty, but when it comes to the future of nations a little patience is justified.
So sure, lets have another EU referendum. Since 41 years seems to be the traditional period between votes I suggest you start your 2057 campaigning now.
Or you could listen to the voice of the British people in the 2017 parliamentary elections, in which 80% of the votes went to parties promising to take the UK out of the EU.
Re-running referendums until the result matches the EU desires is a very EU thing to do, so no, I don't want to keep doing it.
You know there are reasons why democratic elections happen on a regular basis in politics. People can change their opinions.
I think previous decisions should be implemented before asking a new question.
Parliament: "Do you want A or B?" Country: "B" Parliament: "We wanted A so fuck you, we will block and inhibit implementation of B until everybody gets fed up and goes for A just to get the thing over with"
That's not the will of the people.
at this point it's difficult to claim that people were not informed in the mean time
Oh please. The last 30 months have been a litany of bullshit from politicians and the BBC all geared towards blaming everything bad on Brexit. The people have seldom been so deliberately misinformed.
it would certainly be a lot more difficult to deny that this was the will of the people
The only people denying that are the ones living in denial.
My point is that we had a vote, then had a second vote.
Parliament sabotaging the entire fucking process of leaving the EU combined with a Government incapable of negotiating affection in a brothel means that many people now think leaving wont work and want a third fucking vote.
How about instead of wasting time and resources on that we get the fuck on with leaving the EU.
17 million voted to the EU and in the second vote (which we've already had, something the petitioners dishonestly ignore) 25 million voted for political parties that had 'leave the EU' in their party manifesto.
So forgive me if I ignore the constant stream of selfish stupid people demanding that we ignore the democratic wishes of the UK population. Perhaps instead they should focus on removing the hundreds of MPs doing their best to overturn that democracy.
How should an accountant know if a bill is legitimate or not?
Because there'll be a paper trail (probably in electronic form) linking the invoice to the authorisation and a member of staff that can confirm its legitimacy.
This isn't rocket science, businesses have been doing it for centuries.
When my car tries to kill me I don't fuck around with the dashboard to try and report it, I go to the dealer and tell them to fix the worthless piece of shit.
This is not an app on your fucking phone. This is a car. It should be road-worthy. It is not.
Also, as for this driver's particular case, I don't think it's hard to see what's going on.
Very true. It's broken. It can't be trusted. It needs to be switched off and any money paid for that feature refunded.
I'm not telling you that you can't have children. I just don't want to pay for your child support payments, your children's education, your childcare tax credits or your family's NHS costs.
I also don't want the population to reach levels that cause detriment to everybody. That's the difference between us, you're a "me me me" selfish cunt and I'm looking out for the country at large.
Like full time running lights. I asked the salesman, "So if you're in a dark alley in a bad part of town and want to shift yourself OUT discreetly, how can you turn the lights OFF?" Dumbstruck silence and after about half a minute "I guess I never thought about it like that."
You put the fucking lights on so that you don't contribute to it being a bad part of town by running some poor fucker over because you're too stupid to drive without your lights on.
What sort of fuckwit drives down alleys with their lights off at night? Stop fucking driving.
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Take your country, look at gun ownership. You think it makes you safer. And yet you're more likely to be killed by a gun than someone living in Ireland during the troubles.
Northern Ireland has a high rate of gun ownership - including handguns.
Maybe it's not the guns.
A key issue is the unfettered immigration. While non-EU migration is higher than EU the British people have had very few chances to vote against any migration, so the opportunity to send a very strong message to the politicians was taken.
Even inhibiting EU migration will help. Continued pressure on politicians can then be applied to the rest. This is a real issue for many people in the country that's been ignored by the politicians for far too long and it's not the only one.
Leaving the EU wont fix everything but it's a start.
Well, we knew that because he bought the first pair.
Apple's marketing techniques demand a level of respect.
In 1975 the UK did not vote to remain in the EU. They voted to stay in the EEC, a common trading block.
I think there would be strong support now to stay in a strong trading group with other European nations. Unfortunately the EU doesn't want to offer that, instead demanding political control too.
Why did the leave campaigners re-vote on the issue multiple times until they got the answer they wanted
There has only ever been one referendum on the EU itself, and it was 41 years after the referendum on the EEC. So sure, come back in 2057 and ask about whatever the EU morphs into then.
1 - that bus said Britain would save the money it gives to the EU each week
2 - it didn't say we'd save money on healthcare
That is just literally the first result of searching for it, but... check your meds.
Try searching some more, and/or check your own meds.
Thing is we both know 48% voted to stay.
a majority would vote remain
The majority voted to leave.
80% want to leave
The massive majority voted for parties that would leave.
a majority would vote remain
Really? Why now when they haven't in the past? Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
Well arent you a dishonest little one!
No. But fuck you anyway.
You very well know the first past the post system pretty much ensures that those two parties command by far the majority of the votes almost no matter what.
There were zero ballot papers which had only those two parties on them, so there were always other options.
There was also the option of spoiling your ballot paper to indicate dissatisfaction.
Instead 80% of the votes went to parties promising to get on with leaving the EU.
Now what you failed to mention is that in a very unusual move, neither managed to command a majority.
What the 'first past the post' approach did was turn those 80% of the votes into over 87% of the seats in the House.
I'd call that a pretty fucking massive majority of seats elected to get the UK out of Europe.
National support for 'no deal' is now 46%. People would rather suffer economically than continue being fucked over by the combination of parliament and the EU.
Pretty damning of both, but there you go.
Well look, if you really want to vote on May's deal or No Deal then I'll actually support that.
See, no objection at all.
Parliament can't be said to have "Sabotaged" a process flawed by false information from the start
What, like economic collapse, housing market collapse, mass unemployment and the risk of global conflict? None of which have happened, despite promises from the remain camp.
they said millions of dollars was going to be saved on healthcare alone
Who said that?
Oh, nobody. Well, nobody representing the 'leave' campaigns anyway. People wanting to stay in the EU constantly lie about the leave arguments, so thanks for confirming you want the UK to remain.
Parliament rightfully dragged their feet in coming to impossible(!) realizations that there IS NO GOOD SOLUTION to do it like this.
What makes you think I give a shit about a good solution. I'll settle for a shit solution, because it's still better than being in the EU.
May tried, you can't say she didn't try.
I tried to win the F1 World Championship. Now admittedly I didn't even get in a car, but you can't say I didn't try.
In the end the EU said "no, go fuck yourselves, no free lunch."
Of course they did. They were always going to. The only thing that would stop them was the economic damage that could cause them, and it was the UK parliament (and May's inability to negotiate) that allowed the EU to blithely ignore that possibility.
Renegotiate the entire thing, or stay in. Those are the choices now.
The EU wont renegotiate so I'll take option 3: Just fucking leave.
They were promised a bill of goods that was never possible, and further an unrealistic pretend-option that didn't ever exist about a soft-exit from the EU that wouldn't break the bank.
They were promised a fuckload of shit by the Government with dire warnings galore, and still went "That's better than being in the EU"
No deal = breaks the bank, the borders, the everything. It's retarded to say people voted to do that.
Yeah, nobody could possible support that. Except.. https://www.westmonster.com/pu...
Retarded
Please, that's a terrible insult. Especially used by someone with such inept understanding of the issues.
Apparently democracy is asking the people once for their uninformed consent and then have them live with that forever.
Not at all, it took maybe too long but after the 1975 vote for the EEC the UK was indeed given a chance to vote on the EU.
Admittedly long after we'd been promised a vote on the Lisbon Treaty, but when it comes to the future of nations a little patience is justified.
So sure, lets have another EU referendum. Since 41 years seems to be the traditional period between votes I suggest you start your 2057 campaigning now.
Or you could listen to the voice of the British people in the 2017 parliamentary elections, in which 80% of the votes went to parties promising to take the UK out of the EU.
Re-running referendums until the result matches the EU desires is a very EU thing to do, so no, I don't want to keep doing it.
You know there are reasons why democratic elections happen on a regular basis in politics. People can change their opinions.
I think previous decisions should be implemented before asking a new question.
Parliament: "Do you want A or B?"
Country: "B"
Parliament: "We wanted A so fuck you, we will block and inhibit implementation of B until everybody gets fed up and goes for A just to get the thing over with"
That's not the will of the people.
at this point it's difficult to claim that people were not informed in the mean time
Oh please. The last 30 months have been a litany of bullshit from politicians and the BBC all geared towards blaming everything bad on Brexit. The people have seldom been so deliberately misinformed.
it would certainly be a lot more difficult to deny that this was the will of the people
The only people denying that are the ones living in denial.
Typically, online petitions and opinion polls only have a tiny participation rate.
So do referendums, but the one to leave the EU was the largest vote in favour of any issue in the history of the country.
My point is that we had a vote, then had a second vote.
Parliament sabotaging the entire fucking process of leaving the EU combined with a Government incapable of negotiating affection in a brothel means that many people now think leaving wont work and want a third fucking vote.
How about instead of wasting time and resources on that we get the fuck on with leaving the EU.
17 million voted to the EU and in the second vote (which we've already had, something the petitioners dishonestly ignore) 25 million voted for political parties that had 'leave the EU' in their party manifesto.
So forgive me if I ignore the constant stream of selfish stupid people demanding that we ignore the democratic wishes of the UK population. Perhaps instead they should focus on removing the hundreds of MPs doing their best to overturn that democracy.
How should an accountant know if a bill is legitimate or not?
Because there'll be a paper trail (probably in electronic form) linking the invoice to the authorisation and a member of staff that can confirm its legitimacy.
This isn't rocket science, businesses have been doing it for centuries.
No audit trail, no payment.
Hmm, no, it does not. Shit, even the 'no overtaking' sign is different and there are only two variants on that one worldwide*.
*ish
When my car tries to kill me I don't fuck around with the dashboard to try and report it, I go to the dealer and tell them to fix the worthless piece of shit.
This is not an app on your fucking phone. This is a car. It should be road-worthy. It is not.
Also, as for this driver's particular case, I don't think it's hard to see what's going on.
Very true. It's broken. It can't be trusted. It needs to be switched off and any money paid for that feature refunded.
Getting into Australia was a pain, but that's because I admitted walking up a river in Vietnam.
Getting into Vietnam was a piece of piss, just walked in.
Getting out of New Zealand was the hardest. Strange questions like "Where did you hear of New Zealand?"
I gave the sort of answer that gets you thrown out of a country, on the grounds they were slowing down exactly that.
Times I've needed to move my car a few feet and had to risk blinding someone: Zero.
Times I've seen someone else have to do this: Zero.
Times I've heard of anybody needing to do this, including you: Zero.
Where do you park, a fucking alley full of vampires?
I'm not telling you that you can't have children. I just don't want to pay for your child support payments, your children's education, your childcare tax credits or your family's NHS costs.
I also don't want the population to reach levels that cause detriment to everybody. That's the difference between us, you're a "me me me" selfish cunt and I'm looking out for the country at large.
by 130 things get weird
Nah. Your brain also very rapidly adjusts and treats it as normal.
Just start reacting to things happening half a mile ahead instead of waiting until you reach them.
Like full time running lights. I asked the salesman, "So if you're in a dark alley in a bad part of town and want to shift yourself OUT discreetly, how can you turn the lights OFF?" Dumbstruck silence and after about half a minute "I guess I never thought about it like that."
You put the fucking lights on so that you don't contribute to it being a bad part of town by running some poor fucker over because you're too stupid to drive without your lights on.
What sort of fuckwit drives down alleys with their lights off at night? Stop fucking driving.
Stuff that we eat and drink and contact daily are known carcinogens
So fucking what? Feel free to revert to a medieval diet and die in your 50s.
Erm. UK population is 66 million.
I'd fucking love to get it back down to under 60 million. It'd solve many issues, primarily infrastructure related due to overpopulation.
I'll get more fucking water sticking a bucket in the garden than relying on solar power here.