Since when the fuck was Go (a centuries old game played with bits of wood, stone or other non-electronic materials) an e-sport?
You're actually arguing that a non-e-sport (I.e. Go) is not automatable, and trying to use that to say e-sports are harder than real ones. Well done, I concede the debate; I can't win against an idiot.
Or possibly I'm merely better informed and less prejudiced than you.
Artificial barriers? Let's try the education system. In the UK the teaching approach and curriculum has been heavily revised and now caters better for girls than for boys - with a commensurate shift in exam results.
Women also get access to scholarships and funding that just isn't available to men, which makes it easier for them to financially commit to lengthy higher education; needed for those professions.
Sorry but there are more barriers to male equality in this country than there are to female equality.
The problem is that every sport in existence was created as a leisure activity.
Your opening premise alone is flawed.
A lot of sports originate from skills that were essential initially for survival, then for cultural dominance - which in itself is sometimes essential for survival.
As for automation: SC is easier to automate than most RL games, including golf. Shit, people have already produced AI better than most players and that's without even putting a team of computer scientists onto the problem.
Medics and Lawyers were all men in the past. Today half are women.
More women than men entering those professions now. Strangely there's little outcry from feminists about this, no demands for subsidies or positive action to help men.
I have never been impressive by any RL sport. The results we see seem completely plausible for someone who has dedicated their lives to it.
When someone like Ronnie O'Sullivan scores a 147 point snooker break in under five and a half minutes in competition that does not seem completely plausible to anybody on the planet, except Ronnie.
Even under practice conditions, that's implausible. World champions watched with awe and wonder. There's only one person that's ever lived that could even consider matching that right now, and that's Ronnie himself.
The problem with this is that it would make professional bowling (and so many other sports) obsolete. After you got to a certain level, their would be no reason to complete as you have reached the plateau of perfection where everyone is equally perfect at the game. I think it is likely that this huge incentive to not be perfect subconsciously prevents people from getting this good.
Nope, it's because it's just not as easy as you seem to think it is. You underestimate the amount of practice, natural ability, dedication, mental effort and physical skill needed to perform at the top end of any sport.
But for whatever reason, in my opinion these sport's athletes do push what is is to be human beyond what you might think is possible.
How the fuck is performance in a fully deterministic computer game more impressive than performance in an infinitely variable real world?
You admire e-sports competitors. That's cool, they're bloody good at what they do. That doesn't make them better than people that master other sports, even if they're not 'perfect'.
You click that often without getting a strain injury.
Don't knock the physical demands these e-sports put onto the competitors at the top-end. It may only be a couple of fingers, but you try living without them.
You're assuming the MD5 hashes are used as part of anti-cheat detection, not just because Valve want to know which porn you enjoy. You're assuming that MD5 clash rates are materially significant. You're assuming that accessing a cheat site is deemed cheating and leads to a ban. You're assuming that bans are based on single data points. You're assuming that VAC automagically determines you're a cheat and that there isn't a human review involved.
Steam isn't perfect, but please, do try and at least base your wild speculation on some modicum of common sense.
The software industry has existed for the last 60 years. You would think that in that time we would have improved how to write correct bug free code. Yes writing code is complex, but it is no more complex that building a rocket carrying people to the moon (and not exploding in the process)
I'm writing this using a keyboard running software interacting with a complex and sophisticated general computing device which has correctly negotiated a resilient wireless network link that carries the protocols used to access this web page, which has rendered within a self-contained operating system runnign on a host operating system that's also receiving, interpreting, preparing for visual output and displaying a stream of data containing the encoded footage of a football game in which Kolo Toure has scored an own goal.
People have been playing football since long before we sent men to the moon and yet they still score own goals; even so you think the billions of lines of code enabling all of this isn't progress?
By that logic there'd be an objection to many books and plays ever entering the public domain, as they're as entertaining now as the day they were first published.
since publishers feel the older catalogues compete with the newer stuff, they sometimes take it off the market
The irony is that if the older catalogue did compete, they'd keep it on the market but keep increasing its price. That happens in the music industry.
It's the stuff that isn't perceived to be commercially valuable that disappears off the market, and is consequently lost to society.
Note to men: It's illegal to discriminate based on actual OR PERCEIVED gender or transgender grounds in the UK. So apply to Brunel, apply for the grant, tell them you're transgendered and whether you are or not they have to treat you as though you are, and therefore qualified for the grant.
If they deny you based on gender sue the sexist cunts.
The Dyson cleaner I bought has lasted over 14 years, which is longer than any previous vacuum cleaner anybody I grew up knowing managed to keep one running. In that time it's caused no problems and lost no suction power.
On a dollar per suck ratio it's cheaper than your mum, let alone her archaic bag filling hoover.
I'm glad I'm not the only person with no issues using a bagless vacuum cleaner.
Shit, I haven't even bothered to clean the filter for 14 years and itr's still working fine.
I breathed in more dust changing bags than I do emptying my bagless.
Agreed. The bags invariably cough up dust all over the place - and in your house - when you open the hoover. My dyson has a detachable bucket with a lid that I detach, take outside and empty straight into the bin. No dust in the house, no dust in my face (unless it's windy, in which case I hold my breath for 8 seconds until the bin lid is closed).
The bagless hoover is a fucking marvellous extension of the basic vacuum cleaner concept.
Just like finding out your daughter's boyfriend only asked her on a date because he saw her doing the splits or eating a banana makes him a lot creepy.
Having observed female teenagers simulate fellatio on a banana specifically to attract male attention, you tell me: Who's at fault here?
By 'simulate' I include using their teeth to create the semblance of a glans before demonstrating deep-throating technique, inserting and withdrawing fully without biting. Or maybe I'm naive and everybody eats a banana that way.
There's, "you fuckwit, you've totally cocked that up" and there's "there are better ways to do that, would you like me to show you?"
I want teams that have strong enough relationships to do both of those without being argumentative or acting like a cunt. Building relationships, establishing credibility and demonstrating trust are all important and have fuck all to do with whether you're right or not.
So you buy a company, because it's got cool technology, great customers, makes a lot of profit and you can merge all that with your existing products, people and customers to add 20% turnover to the combined organisation.
This is sound business sense. Everybody wins.
Problem: How do you avoid escalating costs through duplication of HR, Finance, IT and other corporate processes? How do you migrate employee information to another jurisdiction with different data protection laws? How do you decommission 16 systems without suffering data loss, without hammering your P&L with premature capital write-offs, without spending millions of dollars that aren't in your budget, without going out of compliance on software licenses, without downtime, without excessive retraining costs, without.. shit, you get the picture.
No, this is not "solve the travelling salesman problem in no more than 80 character of perl" problem solving, but those are fucking hard problems with often no right answers.
Reinvent the wheel? When the wheel costs $380m then you have to, you can't fucking afford it.
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Since when the fuck was Go (a centuries old game played with bits of wood, stone or other non-electronic materials) an e-sport?
You're actually arguing that a non-e-sport (I.e. Go) is not automatable, and trying to use that to say e-sports are harder than real ones. Well done, I concede the debate; I can't win against an idiot.
Or possibly I'm merely better informed and less prejudiced than you.
Artificial barriers? Let's try the education system. In the UK the teaching approach and curriculum has been heavily revised and now caters better for girls than for boys - with a commensurate shift in exam results.
Women also get access to scholarships and funding that just isn't available to men, which makes it easier for them to financially commit to lengthy higher education; needed for those professions.
Sorry but there are more barriers to male equality in this country than there are to female equality.
The problem is that every sport in existence was created as a leisure activity.
Your opening premise alone is flawed.
A lot of sports originate from skills that were essential initially for survival, then for cultural dominance - which in itself is sometimes essential for survival.
As for automation: SC is easier to automate than most RL games, including golf. Shit, people have already produced AI better than most players and that's without even putting a team of computer scientists onto the problem.
Medics and Lawyers were all men in the past. Today half are women.
More women than men entering those professions now. Strangely there's little outcry from feminists about this, no demands for subsidies or positive action to help men.
I have never been impressive by any RL sport. The results we see seem completely plausible for someone who has dedicated their lives to it.
When someone like Ronnie O'Sullivan scores a 147 point snooker break in under five and a half minutes in competition that does not seem completely plausible to anybody on the planet, except Ronnie.
Even under practice conditions, that's implausible. World champions watched with awe and wonder. There's only one person that's ever lived that could even consider matching that right now, and that's Ronnie himself.
The problem with this is that it would make professional bowling (and so many other sports) obsolete. After you got to a certain level, their would be no reason to complete as you have reached the plateau of perfection where everyone is equally perfect at the game. I think it is likely that this huge incentive to not be perfect subconsciously prevents people from getting this good.
Nope, it's because it's just not as easy as you seem to think it is. You underestimate the amount of practice, natural ability, dedication, mental effort and physical skill needed to perform at the top end of any sport.
But for whatever reason, in my opinion these sport's athletes do push what is is to be human beyond what you might think is possible.
How the fuck is performance in a fully deterministic computer game more impressive than performance in an infinitely variable real world?
You admire e-sports competitors. That's cool, they're bloody good at what they do. That doesn't make them better than people that master other sports, even if they're not 'perfect'.
I think e-sports competitors have to train just as hard, and have a far shorter shelf life than Olympic class curlers.
(Which may have been your point. It could read either way)
You click that often without getting a strain injury.
Don't knock the physical demands these e-sports put onto the competitors at the top-end. It may only be a couple of fingers, but you try living without them.
Or whatever the maximum length the brits at the border staff are allowed to torture people is these days.
There is no maximum.
Louise Mensch is a publicity seeking fuckwit.
Trans-racial lesbian porn is always a tense experience: Which colour will the dildos be?
You're making wild assumptions here.
You're assuming the MD5 hashes are used as part of anti-cheat detection, not just because Valve want to know which porn you enjoy.
You're assuming that MD5 clash rates are materially significant.
You're assuming that accessing a cheat site is deemed cheating and leads to a ban.
You're assuming that bans are based on single data points.
You're assuming that VAC automagically determines you're a cheat and that there isn't a human review involved.
Steam isn't perfect, but please, do try and at least base your wild speculation on some modicum of common sense.
When comparing how much people give for charity, percentage is all that matters.
Only if you're keeping score. I prefer the "support people I like" approach, and fuck keeping count.
The software industry has existed for the last 60 years. You would think that in that time we would have improved how to write correct bug free code. Yes writing code is complex, but it is no more complex that building a rocket carrying people to the moon (and not exploding in the process)
I'm writing this using a keyboard running software interacting with a complex and sophisticated general computing device which has correctly negotiated a resilient wireless network link that carries the protocols used to access this web page, which has rendered within a self-contained operating system runnign on a host operating system that's also receiving, interpreting, preparing for visual output and displaying a stream of data containing the encoded footage of a football game in which Kolo Toure has scored an own goal.
People have been playing football since long before we sent men to the moon and yet they still score own goals; even so you think the billions of lines of code enabling all of this isn't progress?
Set up a site that republishes all of John Walker's 20 year old writings. See if he complains, I dare you.
Of course, to show integrity you'll have to share any advertising revenue from your site with John. I bet he thanks you for it.
By that logic there'd be an objection to many books and plays ever entering the public domain, as they're as entertaining now as the day they were first published.
since publishers feel the older catalogues compete with the newer stuff, they sometimes take it off the market
The irony is that if the older catalogue did compete, they'd keep it on the market but keep increasing its price. That happens in the music industry.
It's the stuff that isn't perceived to be commercially valuable that disappears off the market, and is consequently lost to society.
I have no sympathy with Disney. Fuck them and their exploitation of the public domain.
Yeah, they don't make 'em like they used to.
Not sure I'd describe it as 'bagless' though.
£1250/month for doing engineering if you're a woman:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scie...
Note to men: It's illegal to discriminate based on actual OR PERCEIVED gender or transgender grounds in the UK. So apply to Brunel, apply for the grant, tell them you're transgendered and whether you are or not they have to treat you as though you are, and therefore qualified for the grant.
If they deny you based on gender sue the sexist cunts.
The Dyson cleaner I bought has lasted over 14 years, which is longer than any previous vacuum cleaner anybody I grew up knowing managed to keep one running. In that time it's caused no problems and lost no suction power.
On a dollar per suck ratio it's cheaper than your mum, let alone her archaic bag filling hoover.
I'm glad I'm not the only person with no issues using a bagless vacuum cleaner.
Shit, I haven't even bothered to clean the filter for 14 years and itr's still working fine.
I breathed in more dust changing bags than I do emptying my bagless.
Agreed. The bags invariably cough up dust all over the place - and in your house - when you open the hoover. My dyson has a detachable bucket with a lid that I detach, take outside and empty straight into the bin. No dust in the house, no dust in my face (unless it's windy, in which case I hold my breath for 8 seconds until the bin lid is closed).
The bagless hoover is a fucking marvellous extension of the basic vacuum cleaner concept.
Just like finding out your daughter's boyfriend only asked her on a date because he saw her doing the splits or eating a banana makes him a lot creepy.
Having observed female teenagers simulate fellatio on a banana specifically to attract male attention, you tell me: Who's at fault here?
By 'simulate' I include using their teeth to create the semblance of a glans before demonstrating deep-throating technique, inserting and withdrawing fully without biting. Or maybe I'm naive and everybody eats a banana that way.
There's, "you fuckwit, you've totally cocked that up" and there's "there are better ways to do that, would you like me to show you?"
I want teams that have strong enough relationships to do both of those without being argumentative or acting like a cunt. Building relationships, establishing credibility and demonstrating trust are all important and have fuck all to do with whether you're right or not.
It doesn't scare me, and it's not purely a management problem. It is definitely hard to solve, which was my point.
So you buy a company, because it's got cool technology, great customers, makes a lot of profit and you can merge all that with your existing products, people and customers to add 20% turnover to the combined organisation.
This is sound business sense. Everybody wins.
Problem: How do you avoid escalating costs through duplication of HR, Finance, IT and other corporate processes? How do you migrate employee information to another jurisdiction with different data protection laws? How do you decommission 16 systems without suffering data loss, without hammering your P&L with premature capital write-offs, without spending millions of dollars that aren't in your budget, without going out of compliance on software licenses, without downtime, without excessive retraining costs, without.. shit, you get the picture.
No, this is not "solve the travelling salesman problem in no more than 80 character of perl" problem solving, but those are fucking hard problems with often no right answers.
Reinvent the wheel? When the wheel costs $380m then you have to, you can't fucking afford it.
There's competence, which you described for yourself.
There's passion, which you described for someone else.
The sweet spot is the intersect.