While Cisco was not the first company to develop and sell a router (a device that forwards computer traffic between two or more networks),[1] it was one of the first to sell commercially successful routers supporting multiple network protocols.
The earliest Xerox routers came into operation sometime after early 1974. The first true IP router was developed by Virginia Strazisar at BBN, as part of that DARPA-initiated effort, during 1975-1976. By the end of 1976, three PDP-11-based routers were in service in the experimental prototype Internet. The first multiprotocol routers were independently created by staff researchers at MIT and Stanford in 1981; the Stanford router was done by William Yeager, and the MIT one by Noel Chiappa; both were also based on PDP-11s.
You are correct that it would not be easy, but starting a common-carrier has been a dream of mine too. Obviously, the build out of the infrastructure would be immense and trying to negotiate right-of-way agreements would be equally challenging.
However, maybe it could be accomplished by establishing a utility cooperative. Part of the financing could come from the user/owners of the service, by putting in place a 20 year agreement between the co-op and the user to buy communication services. The agreement would stay with the property and picked up by the next owner, if the property is sold.
Although I get nervous about what Google is doing with my emails, I have to admit their spam filter works.
I get my fair share of spam in my Gmail account, but I can't remember the last time any of it landed in my inbox. It is all sitting in the spam folder. It also seams like their false positive rate is very low.
Later as a child, I described everything I remembered to our doctor (this was in a small southern city in the late 1960s when there were no fancy big city hospital with teams of specialists, we had one and only one family doctor who took care of all our medical needs, and a very small and modestly equipped small town hospital) and the old doctor was flabberghasted that I recalled the details of what I remembered during my birth, the color of the delivery room, the unusual light fixture on the ceiling, seeing him for the first time, his two nurse assistants and the gowns they were wearing, and my crying uncontrollably until I couldn't catch my breath anymore when the nurse came at me with large scissors to cut the umbilical cord and then I stopped breathing and remember seeing the doctor and his nurses go into a panic just before I blacked out.
I started laughing when I began reading your post, but those statements are 100% pure grade A bullshit.
You Sir, are a liar.
At birth, babies are almost blind as bats:
What Can a Baby See?
The newborn's visual acuity (sharpness of vision) is approximately 20/400. This is equivalent to seeing only the big letter "E" on an eye chart. Vision slowly improves to 20/20 by age 2 years.
http://www.uic.edu/com/eye/LearningAboutVision/EyeFacts/BabyEyes.shtml
So even if it was possible to have memories of your birth, it was NOT possible for you to see it.
Your ramblings are obnoxious and ignorant. Please stop wasting out time.
PS - I also find it funny how you so called "pro-lifers" are big on protecting the "unborn", but are fucking hypocrites when it come to the death penalty. I guess some "lives" aren't worth saving, huh?
The hardware is nothing to write home about: a 1.5GHz Via C7 with 1GB of RAM and integrated graphics, but as Ars points out, it should be more than capable of performing basic tasks.
Maybe this hardware isn't up to snuff to run Microshitte Bloatware. However, I am sure if you scrape that turd called Vista off the hard drive and install your favorite version of Linux with Open Office, the performance should be just fine.
I run a free directory whose main purpose is to allow people to find each other via old information (lookmeup.org) The service could help people find ex-Sunrocket subscribers via their old phone numbers. Anyone know the best way to inform Sunrocket users?
I guess you would be celebrating today if you are a privacy advocate. However, I'm not sure who you can assume any of your online messages are safe from prying eyes after traveling through "a series of tubes".
Just a side note here, I never understood how Enzyte ever got that big. How could you look at the TV ad and not conclude it was anything but a charade?
"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet
When the RAZR cell phone was first launched, I had a friend who bought one. I asked him how much he paid, and he said 600 dollars. Granted he is the type who wants the latest gizmo, but it proves there is a market for 600-dollar phones.
Now, here comes the iPhone with a great deal more functionality and hype to go with it. I think they will sell a few.
Apple has a marketing group. I am sure they crunched the numbers before any engineer put a pencil to paper...
I took a look at giganews.com pricing schedule. It starts at $29.99 a month (first month is $19.99).
At that price, I would rather sign up for Netflix and rip the DVD at whatever bit rate I want. It also guaranties I am off the radar of the RIAA/MPAA entirely. There is no way to prove I ripped a copy, unless I starting shooting my mouth off at the local bar.
I was quite curious to see people's responses to this article and gain some further insight through their personal observations. Even more interesting was the lack of religious screwballs posting to this article. I went though many treads before coming across this whack-job.
Since this is Slashdot, I am sure that has an impact, but it was refreshing to see a majority of people discuss religion with out going into irrational fits.
My comment was directed to his notion that DPS are slow and expensive, both assumptions are wrong. This was the case in the late 80's and early 90's.
I would *guess* that building anything to solve a problem in practice would take an incredibly large amount of time and skill, both of which are valuable resources even if they are your own.
I never said your time was not valuable. I am stating that just because a group of consumers assume you can't buy something in a retail store, it is not readily available and cheap. This assumption is wrong as well.
People who work in the electronics field are familiar with what it takes to design and build these types of prototypes, and many of them are hobbyists.
In addition, suppliers like Analog Devices basically give away development boards ($100 - 200) and software to easily implement FFTs and digital filters in their devices.
So yes Virginia, DSPs do exist and there are easy to use for people who know what the 'F' they are talking about.
Don't forget that you need at least a 60MHz (yes, sixty megahertz) ADC and DSP pair to do what was suggested. The cost of building useful supporting electronics around a DSP capable of implementing a direct sampling receiver at 60MHz would be prohibitive in the range $ridiculous-$ludicrous.
Maybe there aren't any DSP available and low cost, if you aren't a hardware designer:
So, again I ask.... Why would anybody use something with all the warts of MySQL?
Sometimes, it's out of your control. There are vast amounts of web hosting providers that pre-install MySQL on your hosted site. I am sure some people would like the chance to experiment with PostgreSQL, but to do this you would need to install that software yourself, assuming the provider allows you to do this.
Most of the people are worried about developing and launching their ideas and don't want to add more complexity than needed.
While I applaud the effort to improve the efficiency of law enforcement, I am concerned about unintended consequences.
One advantage of the old system was a built in forgiveness factor. Someone who had a checked past could clean up their life and move forward in life. Any headaches dealing with the system bias and mistakes would eventually become less important over time as records were destroyed or lost.
Now, you will have one central database where every legal detail on your life could be contained. What happens to impulsive individuals to get in a little trouble when they young?
Will they have a record following them around the rest of their lives? I guess your high school teacher was right when they said, "This is going on your permanent record!"
HAL: I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Tell the to the rich snobs trying to stop a wind farm off the coast of Nantucket, MA. All of a sudden, they have become bird advocates.
http://www.saveoursound.org/node/119
All while they drive their large SUV's. F'ing hypocrites
Another example of we are for green power, except for NIMBY
If they really wanted to appease their customers, why don't they drop cost of DSL to $4.99/month? I am sure a few of their 'customers' are calling for lower rates.
I think the sad part of this story is that the ALCU are the ones standing up for our rights. Where is the outrage? The problem is Americans are too complacent in their SUV and Mc-Mansion lives to give a F***.
I remember a poll a while back that stated 50% of people surveyed are willing to give up their rights if they thought it would help the war on terror. I am sure that's not what our forefathers had in mind.
Most people just take their freedoms for granted and assume they will always be there. I can imagine the look on their faces when the police show up to randomly search their homes, and they state "Don't you need a warrant for this?" and the police reply "Nope. Not any more!"
Slashdot Mirror
(Cisco deserves a little credit for making the internet work as the company that invented and marketed the router...)
That is not technically accurate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco
While Cisco was not the first company to develop and sell a router (a device that forwards computer traffic between two or more networks),[1] it was one of the first to sell commercially successful routers supporting multiple network protocols.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router#History
The earliest Xerox routers came into operation sometime after early 1974. The first true IP router was developed by Virginia Strazisar at BBN, as part of that DARPA-initiated effort, during 1975-1976. By the end of 1976, three PDP-11-based routers were in service in the experimental prototype Internet. The first multiprotocol routers were independently created by staff researchers at MIT and Stanford in 1981; the Stanford router was done by William Yeager, and the MIT one by Noel Chiappa; both were also based on PDP-11s.
Cisco did not come into existence until 1984.
You are correct that it would not be easy, but starting a common-carrier has been a dream of mine too. Obviously, the build out of the infrastructure would be immense and trying to negotiate right-of-way agreements would be equally challenging.
However, maybe it could be accomplished by establishing a utility cooperative. Part of the financing could come from the user/owners of the service, by putting in place a 20 year agreement between the co-op and the user to buy communication services. The agreement would stay with the property and picked up by the next owner, if the property is sold.
It's a dream, but who knows maybe someday...
Although I get nervous about what Google is doing with my emails, I have to admit their spam filter works.
I get my fair share of spam in my Gmail account, but I can't remember the last time any of it landed in my inbox. It is all sitting in the spam folder. It also seams like their false positive rate is very low.
I started laughing when I began reading your post, but those statements are 100% pure grade A bullshit.
You Sir, are a liar.
At birth, babies are almost blind as bats:
What Can a Baby See?
The newborn's visual acuity (sharpness of vision) is approximately 20/400. This is equivalent to seeing only the big letter "E" on an eye chart. Vision slowly improves to 20/20 by age 2 years.
http://www.uic.edu/com/eye/LearningAboutVision/EyeFacts/BabyEyes.shtml
So even if it was possible to have memories of your birth, it was NOT possible for you to see it.
Your ramblings are obnoxious and ignorant. Please stop wasting out time.
PS - I also find it funny how you so called "pro-lifers" are big on protecting the "unborn", but are fucking hypocrites when it come to the death penalty. I guess some "lives" aren't worth saving, huh?
I run a free directory whose main purpose is to allow people to find each other via old information (lookmeup.org) The service could help people find ex-Sunrocket subscribers via their old phone numbers. Anyone know the best way to inform Sunrocket users?
Just a side note here, I never understood how Enzyte ever got that big. How could you look at the TV ad and not conclude it was anything but a charade?
"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet
When the RAZR cell phone was first launched, I had a friend who bought one. I asked him how much he paid, and he said 600 dollars. Granted he is the type who wants the latest gizmo, but it proves there is a market for 600-dollar phones.
Now, here comes the iPhone with a great deal more functionality and hype to go with it. I think they will sell a few.
Apple has a marketing group. I am sure they crunched the numbers before any engineer put a pencil to paper...
I took a look at giganews.com pricing schedule. It starts at $29.99 a month (first month is $19.99).
At that price, I would rather sign up for Netflix and rip the DVD at whatever bit rate I want. It also guaranties I am off the radar of the RIAA/MPAA entirely. There is no way to prove I ripped a copy, unless I starting shooting my mouth off at the local bar.
the only time the average user would need to surf anonymous is when he/she knows he is doing something wrong.
What about someone doing a search about a medical problem or depression?
What about political dissent?
What about searching for a new job?
What about a whistleblower going to a Gov website to report abuse of gov contracts?
etc...
I was quite curious to see people's responses to this article and gain some further insight through their personal observations. Even more interesting was the lack of religious screwballs posting to this article. I went though many treads before coming across this whack-job.
Since this is Slashdot, I am sure that has an impact, but it was refreshing to see a majority of people discuss religion with out going into irrational fits.
My comment was directed to his notion that DPS are slow and expensive, both assumptions are wrong. This was the case in the late 80's and early 90's.
I would *guess* that building anything to solve a problem in practice would take an incredibly large amount of time and skill, both of which are valuable resources even if they are your own.
I never said your time was not valuable. I am stating that just because a group of consumers assume you can't buy something in a retail store, it is not readily available and cheap. This assumption is wrong as well.
People who work in the electronics field are familiar with what it takes to design and build these types of prototypes, and many of them are hobbyists.
In addition, suppliers like Analog Devices basically give away development boards ($100 - 200) and software to easily implement FFTs and digital filters in their devices.
So yes Virginia, DSPs do exist and there are easy to use for people who know what the 'F' they are talking about.
Don't forget that you need at least a 60MHz (yes, sixty megahertz) ADC and DSP pair to do what was suggested. The cost of building useful supporting electronics around a DSP capable of implementing a direct sampling receiver at 60MHz would be prohibitive in the range $ridiculous-$ludicrous.
h tml
...priceless
Maybe there aren't any DSP available and low cost, if you aren't a hardware designer:
400 MHz DSP $10.00 http://www.analog.com/en/epProd/0,,ADSP-BF532,00.
14-bit, 65 MSPS ADC $30.00 http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,,AD6644,00.html
Catching non-designers talking smack
Since the so-called "Authorities" were made fools of, you know someone is going to pay. Fair or not...
k ing_news/2007/02/men_accused_of_1.html
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/brea
So, again I ask.... Why would anybody use something with all the warts of MySQL?
Sometimes, it's out of your control. There are vast amounts of web hosting providers that pre-install MySQL on your hosted site. I am sure some people would like the chance to experiment with PostgreSQL, but to do this you would need to install that software yourself, assuming the provider allows you to do this.
Most of the people are worried about developing and launching their ideas and don't want to add more complexity than needed.
"Real" virtual p0rn!
Come to Papa, Jenna.
Sorry to be redundant, but I THIRD that.
I wish I had some mod points left to bump you up. A perfect description of web 2.0!
While I applaud the effort to improve the efficiency of law enforcement, I am concerned about unintended consequences.
One advantage of the old system was a built in forgiveness factor. Someone who had a checked past could clean up their life and move forward in life. Any headaches dealing with the system bias and mistakes would eventually become less important over time as records were destroyed or lost.
Now, you will have one central database where every legal detail on your life could be contained. What happens to impulsive individuals to get in a little trouble when they young?
Will they have a record following them around the rest of their lives? I guess your high school teacher was right when they said, "This is going on your permanent record!"
HAL: I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Tell the to the rich snobs trying to stop a wind farm off the coast of Nantucket, MA. All of a sudden, they have become bird advocates. http://www.saveoursound.org/node/119 All while they drive their large SUV's. F'ing hypocrites Another example of we are for green power, except for NIMBY
Maybe the problem is that older products ARE good enough. Honestly, what must-have features has Microsoft added to MS Office lately?
If they really wanted to appease their customers, why don't they drop cost of DSL to $4.99 /month? I am sure a few of their 'customers' are calling for lower rates.
I think the sad part of this story is that the ALCU are the ones standing up for our rights. Where is the outrage? The problem is Americans are too complacent in their SUV and Mc-Mansion lives to give a F***.
I remember a poll a while back that stated 50% of people surveyed are willing to give up their rights if they thought it would help the war on terror. I am sure that's not what our forefathers had in mind.
Most people just take their freedoms for granted and assume they will always be there. I can imagine the look on their faces when the police show up to randomly search their homes, and they state "Don't you need a warrant for this?" and the police reply "Nope. Not any more!"
I didn't see a Homeland terror level mentioned anywhere. The current terror level is BERT: Sessame Street Terror Level