Thank god there are still plenty of managers (majority?) that are commited to such things that not only violate common sense but provide me a system tester with job that (apparently) could not be easily off-shored to China.
Sometimes however (quite often recently) they are so dumb that they do not even realize that failure costs money. Apparently the fact that products have to work so that they can be sold for money avoids some people completly.
I wonder when they come up with the idea that there is no need for highly paid specialists controlling these things - they can let them being steered from some web server far away. To get access you need to pay say 10$ an hour. I guess this would catch attention and provide lots of 'recruits' for the military. Serving one's country may even become fashinable for a while.
I do not mind to pay reasonable amount for the information (music is also information) I need especially if I know that the author is the one that benefits mostly (Have Led Zeppelin members gotten a dime out of CDs with their original albums?). The key points here are 'reasonable fee' and 'authors get the bonus'.
I think that is the problem that I have with the current system.
I do not think that technology can fix it as the problem lies not within technology domain - it is (mainly) the rotten legal system in which I have to pay a contents usage fee for any tool being even only theoreticaly able to copy it (printer, cd burner etc, PC) also when I do not use it for copying. I seriously doubt that authors have anything of it.
I think that the money for lawyers problem is not a real one.
It is not the maintenainers of the DB that would need to pay for lawyers but the DB could be used by people that want to defend themselves against evil doers that abuse the patent system.
I do not know how anybody could mod the parent funny. Informed maybe but not funny.
It is rather depressing. Humans in a group are less inteligent than a block of led. Tragically some of more inteligent but less scrupulous of us always try and suceed to become leaders and get the PROFIT - usually on cost of everybody else. Of course at the end we kill all life on earth, ourselves included, so it does not really matter who was smart and whether this was groupwise or on individual base.
and this somebody is as good as you? Can you improve then? If they are merely at your level it usually does not pay for the company to employ somebody else only to get 1k savings on your salary. There are of course exeptions - the moron manager getting bonus for a 1k$ saving and moving along before the competence gap hits etc. But if they act in a responsible way they usually need experienced people to do core activities. Such experienced people do not grow on trees and tend to piss off if treated badly.
I admit that knowing this does not help by salary negotiations. If you hit the wall the only way to get more money is to get another job. My experience is that this is the only thing that helps. I do not discuss to much with them. Simple questions are answered simply as in following work instruction:
1.ask the boss:"can I get more money? " 2.if answer is yes CONTINUE
else find another JOB. 3.work a little 4.GOTO1
There is no point in arguing with morons. By doing so anyway you run into danger that you get so low as to their intelectual and moral level. They are like politicians - good boss is difficult to find the rest of them are simple parasites able to come up only with ideas of others.
This OC has nothing to do with TFA but the procedure described by you does not always work see for instance counrties like North Korea. I suppose the loop has some additional malicious code which makes it misbehave.//
robots or not - every time the immigration is in some way restricted (supply or cost or legal obstacles etc) the automation is used to handle the problem. That is so because if cheap labour is available there is no motivation to innovate in this area.
I think you are way to optimistic - I guess 10 years is enough.
What we miss here however is the definitions. How do you declare the war ended? In ancient times in mediteranian you hanged a flag over the battle field to mark your victory. Sometimes even this was disputed. In times before and till IWW you had the treaties which said - OK we give up you won and all was well. But even with IWW you canargue that the win was rather shortlived and the war continued from 1939 on. Today you have more difficult requirements: the popluation over which new rulers rule should accept the defeat and love the winners . This is hardly possible. Especially if you cannot distinguish between simple criminals using the situation and actual 'freedom' (whatever that term means) fighters. Thus in one view the war ended and in another goes on. That is why military loves to have clear objective like removing the ruler, destroying infrastructure etc instead of fluffy ones like installing democracy and just political and social system (where on earth you can find that I do not know, there are only more or less well done approximations).
SInce begin of my time as an engineer (yes I work with software and I am an egnineer) I meet people some intelligent some not so who do not know these basic rules and if confornted with them refuse to cooperate thowing some excuse like time pressure or their perfectness in coding etc. I laugh every time. Some of these bastards have balls to tell me that their code is not faulty although there are sufficient evidence to the contrary.
The article is not about people getting angry but about sad reality that the exitsing bandwith is not enough for extensive advertised use. There are ways out of this abyss however. One can imagine that at the end market forces will suceed in dealing with the problem and either new tariffs emerge where you pay for what you use instead of flat rate or additional bandwith will be created. One can also imagine that the contracts written in lawyers speak will prevail and customers will have to buy a lot of lubricants to alleviate pain in their swollen rectums. There may be third way - outright lie. After all - Joe Doe does not have a clue anyway (and does not realize the pain in the bottom). If he does then one can tell him that commies or terrorists or creatures from outer space are guilty of bandwith theft and proceed as usuall. Even if general public was not gullible as it is, it lacks knowledge. The funny thing is that 'cause all the IT jobs will become either management or outsourced ones soon there will be nobody to clarify this to avarage Joe.
BTW:There was this study I read recently about emergency plans for case of massive epidemics of infectious desease. One remedy was to let people work from home to prevent economy collapse while quarantine is enforced. One small problem was pointed there - not enough bandwith.
BTW2: the idea about the use of mobile networks etc is a splendid one. Only there is a problem of bandwith there too. Even if solved on RNS the problem with backbone remains. Gosch but I am spoiling a party now - oi!
BTW3: As for TFA. I understand that there are people that use bandwith resonably and they need plenty of it. But why would any half intelligent person want to load a movie from the net? It is a waste of money (movie) & time (you have to watch it). So why bother?//
They may be inadequate for professional work. Exactly the same as windows or any other OS is. They are all inappropriate, inefficient and unstable. There are some that are better, there are some that are worse. The problem (besides soem technicalities) lies in minds people like e.g. my precious: she has linux allergy - whatever I say is discredited if it contains any reference to linux. I use ubuntu to contact my bank. It is safer and as it is life dvd distro I can work without thinking that some virus infected my system (unless it was already there when I bought the thing but that is unlikelly still). Sheknows this but something holds she up.
The actual problem is in heads of people: some think it is difficult, some do not know there is alternative but majority has a problem when they have to chose another 'excel' or 'word', they are conused when they try to find IE and see konqueror only. They do not want change. They do not realize that alternatives are easy They do not realaze that the laternatives are safer They do not realize that windowze has inherent problems This is the same with other types of software too. People do not know and do not want to know.
they are the sheep and they are happy that the sheppard is good to them.
is not converting and reselling part of illegal activities that riaa and other copyright nazis are after? I wonder.
This has nothing to do with justice or paying royalties. It is pure nonsense from technical point of view (does the purcased material work on all owned media?), it is abuse of consumers because they become criminals if they make backup copies and it does bring money to lawyers and organisations like riaa. The choice, justice, our rights and quality suffer in a process. Sad thing is: there is no escape. They won the war already because they have bigger bugs to buy bigger guns or lawyers.
I stopped buying CDs few years back. I do not use 'illegal' copies but I dont buy 'legal' ones either. I suffer a little but I can live without it. I can sing to myself (god forbids that anybody hears) so I am fine. I am sure however that there is a law making this illegal too.//
In my splendid corporation those parts that still exist in developed world (60k emplyees all over) were meant to adopt Vista in their microsoft domains as soon as middle of 2007. This has been delayed for unspecified reasons for unspecified time. I find it nice that it is so. I doubt however that this changes anything.
This visa thing is just plain stupid. Creating limits one gives power to the already powerful. OTOH I wonder how long this oursourcing bonanza will last. India and China (and others) need skilled people for own projects, the companies from the west rushing in do not help to keep the labour prices low. The end effect is crap - when we outsource projects we get pure and stinking crap: crap service, crap quality of products - generally crap. Not because there are no skilled people out there. Only they are in such high demand that you can only get less skilled - after all one does all this to save money not because one likes it otherwise they could pay the same an engineer in UK or Germany or whatever.
I saw it happening with my own western sweatshop giving projects to Wipro (among other crapy outfits). What we got back is not documented products that do not work and have no support 'cause wipro did not see the need to have any feedback lines prepared. This is extreme but apparently normal for any outsourcing project of late. Funnily the result is also that job losses have been reverted because we need people to fix the shit delivered by subcontractors in 'cheap' countries. I guess we are close to end of offshoring/outsourcing managment fashion because of labour shortages. Time to devise another stupid management fashion that creates welth for some and misery for others.
Fallacy. What you say about google's way into its current position is OC true - they did it by their own devices and their own virtue. If you say that free market gives you right to succeed as well as to lose you may be right too. But once a company like google reaches dominant position to the extent that rivals do not really count it is a matter for the regulators. The reason being that Google as any other organisation is led by people and these once given power will abuse it. Whether due to ignorance, incompetence or rather due to evil plan is not important. Important is that the power is being abused and that is wrong.
That said I am not so sure whether what is described in TFA is anything else as sheer incompetence and does not deserve bandwith that is wasted while people discussing it. .
I remeber having B. type of social control in a country I come from and this was a communist country. I had simialr observation about public spaces in UK where I lived and worked for while. Add to this the fact that majority if not all public space available (in shopping malls and such) are properly video supervised and what you write seems to make even sense.
Orwell would be proud of his predictions even if current big brother state needs no war to proceed with its big brother style invigilation.
If one were to replace governement officials which rule in my country with apes the situation would improve, I am sure this is the case in majority of countries. So the question about apes getting human rights is simple to answer. While we are at re-assigning human rights we need to do something with the politicians - scrapping them would be a proper thing to do.
I suppose that it all come down to horse's arse - in roman empire's times it was a direct measure for the size of a wagon. The size of the wagon dictated the size of the roads. This in turn did dictate... and because of that we have the architecture of 86 still with us.
Had the romans had leaner and faster horses we would have faster processors. It is that simple.
but the problems with speed are down to the coding faults people make because they have not a clue how java really works (not a clue about.net - never worked with it). OC you may say that because java folk is an uneducated lot then it is irrelevant whether java code can be fast or not - dead weight of java coder will kill the speed anyway.//
OSS idealy allows the user to take the software and go to another design organisation that provide same or better service. This makes a difference if the original maker is out of reach or unwilling/unable to provide fixes and improvements timely. That is advante as I see it. My fellow business people do not see it this way though. They like to complain however how their software vendor (and we are not talking about our beloved M$) let them waiting for years for update and when it comes it has hundreds of features that they do not want plus this one or two they were begging for. If they could pay independent designer for upgrade they would get what they wanted within months instead of years. OC without sorting out licenses etc this has no chance of succeeding.
nobody makes money on actual work anymore - what are the volumes on stock exchanges of the world and what these volumes have to do with the actual real wares and work - not much. This applies to iron smelters as well as bit smelters. The profits get virtualized while our jobs get globalized. Doing things is not really profitable anymore and brings our planet to its end anyway (as it causes different types of waste all over) so we should welcome this trend. The only problem is that this leads us from (kind of) democratic society with citizens having some and same rights to the society where few plutocrats own almost all and control all. But besides that it is a trend to be welcomed.
Side question: why are these applications written by none experts so crapy. COuld this be that they miss skills or brains or possible both?
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I dono about values but you left out one question: is copyig taking place at all?
Thank god there are still plenty of managers (majority?) that are commited to such things that not only violate common sense but provide me a system tester with job that (apparently) could not be easily off-shored to China. Sometimes however (quite often recently) they are so dumb that they do not even realize that failure costs money. Apparently the fact that products have to work so that they can be sold for money avoids some people completly.
I wonder when they come up with the idea that there is no need for highly paid specialists controlling these things - they can let them being steered from some web server far away. To get access you need to pay say 10$ an hour. I guess this would catch attention and provide lots of 'recruits' for the military. Serving one's country may even become fashinable for a while.
I do not mind to pay reasonable amount for the information (music is also information) I need especially if I know that the author is the one that benefits mostly (Have Led Zeppelin members gotten a dime out of CDs with their original albums?). The key points here are 'reasonable fee' and 'authors get the bonus'.
I think that is the problem that I have with the current system.
I do not think that technology can fix it as the problem lies not within technology domain - it is (mainly) the rotten legal system in which I have to pay a contents usage fee for any tool being even only theoreticaly able to copy it (printer, cd burner etc, PC) also when I do not use it for copying. I seriously doubt that authors have anything of it.
Good IT manager exists in exactly the same way as 'normal' good manager i.e. he does not.
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa
I think that the money for lawyers problem is not a real one. It is not the maintenainers of the DB that would need to pay for lawyers but the DB could be used by people that want to defend themselves against evil doers that abuse the patent system.
I do not know how anybody could mod the parent funny. Informed maybe but not funny.
It is rather depressing. Humans in a group are less inteligent than a block of led. Tragically some of more inteligent but less scrupulous of us always try and suceed to become leaders and get the PROFIT - usually on cost of everybody else. Of course at the end we kill all life on earth, ourselves included, so it does not really matter who was smart and whether this was groupwise or on individual base.
and this somebody is as good as you? Can you improve then? If they are merely at your level it usually does not pay for the company to employ somebody else only to get 1k savings on your salary. There are of course exeptions - the moron manager getting bonus for a 1k$ saving and moving along before the competence gap hits etc. But if they act in a responsible way they usually need experienced people to do core activities. Such experienced people do not grow on trees and tend to piss off if treated badly.
I admit that knowing this does not help by salary negotiations. If you hit the wall the only way to get more money is to get another job. My experience is that this is the only thing that helps. I do not discuss to much with them. Simple questions are answered simply as in following work instruction:
1.ask the boss:"can I get more money? "
2.if answer is yes CONTINUE
else find another JOB.
3.work a little
4.GOTO1
There is no point in arguing with morons. By doing so anyway you run into danger that you get so low as to their intelectual and moral level. They are like politicians - good boss is difficult to find the rest of them are simple parasites able to come up only with ideas of others.
This OC has nothing to do with TFA but the procedure described by you does not always work see for instance counrties like North Korea. I suppose the loop has some additional malicious code which makes it misbehave. //
robots or not - every time the immigration is in some way restricted (supply or cost or legal obstacles etc) the automation is used to handle the problem. That is so because if cheap labour is available there is no motivation to innovate in this area.
It does not necesserily escape them - fallacy is sometimes intentional. //
I think you are way to optimistic - I guess 10 years is enough.
What we miss here however is the definitions. How do you declare the war ended? In ancient times in mediteranian you hanged a flag over the battle field to mark your victory. Sometimes even this was disputed. In times before and till IWW you had the treaties which said - OK we give up you won and all was well. But even with IWW you canargue that the win was rather shortlived and the war continued from 1939 on. Today you have more difficult requirements: the popluation over which new rulers rule should accept the defeat and love the winners . This is hardly possible. Especially if you cannot distinguish between simple criminals using the situation and actual 'freedom' (whatever that term means) fighters. Thus in one view the war ended and in another goes on. That is why military loves to have clear objective like removing the ruler, destroying infrastructure etc instead of fluffy ones like installing democracy and just political and social system (where on earth you can find that I do not know, there are only more or less well done approximations).
SInce begin of my time as an engineer (yes I work with software and I am an egnineer) I meet people some intelligent some not so who do not know these basic rules and if confornted with them refuse to cooperate thowing some excuse like time pressure or their perfectness in coding etc. I laugh every time. Some of these bastards have balls to tell me that their code is not faulty although there are sufficient evidence to the contrary.
The article is not about people getting angry but about sad reality that the exitsing bandwith is not enough for extensive advertised use.
//
There are ways out of this abyss however.
One can imagine that at the end market forces will suceed in dealing with the problem and either new tariffs emerge where you pay for what you use instead of flat rate or additional bandwith will be created. One can also imagine that the contracts written in lawyers speak will prevail and customers will have to buy a lot of lubricants to alleviate pain in their swollen rectums.
There may be third way - outright lie. After all - Joe Doe does not have a clue anyway (and does not realize the pain in the bottom). If he does then one can tell him that commies or terrorists or creatures from outer space are guilty of bandwith theft and proceed as usuall. Even if general public was not gullible as it is, it lacks knowledge. The funny thing is that 'cause all the IT jobs will become either management or outsourced ones soon there will be nobody to clarify this to avarage Joe.
BTW:There was this study I read recently about emergency plans for case of massive epidemics of infectious desease. One remedy was to let people work from home to prevent economy collapse while quarantine is enforced. One small problem was pointed there - not enough bandwith.
BTW2: the idea about the use of mobile networks etc is a splendid one. Only there is a problem of bandwith there too. Even if solved on RNS the problem with backbone remains. Gosch but I am spoiling a party now - oi!
BTW3: As for TFA. I understand that there are people that use bandwith resonably and they need plenty of it. But why would any half intelligent person want to load a movie from the net? It is a waste of money (movie) & time (you have to watch it). So why bother?
They may be inadequate for professional work. Exactly the same as windows or any other OS is. They are all inappropriate, inefficient and unstable. There are some that are better, there are some that are worse. The problem (besides soem technicalities) lies in minds people like e.g. my precious: she has linux allergy - whatever I say is discredited if it contains any reference to linux. I use ubuntu to contact my bank. It is safer and as it is life dvd distro I can work without thinking that some virus infected my system (unless it was already there when I bought the thing but that is unlikelly still). Sheknows this but something holds she up.
The actual problem is in heads of people: some think it is difficult, some do not know there is alternative but majority has a problem when they have to chose another 'excel' or 'word', they are conused when they try to find IE and see konqueror only.
They do not want change.
They do not realize that alternatives are easy
They do not realaze that the laternatives are safer
They do not realize that windowze has inherent problems
This is the same with other types of software too. People do not know and do not want to know.
they are the sheep and they are happy that the sheppard is good to them.
is not converting and reselling part of illegal activities that riaa and other copyright nazis are after?
//
I wonder.
This has nothing to do with justice or paying royalties. It is pure nonsense from technical point of view (does the purcased material work on all owned media?), it is abuse of consumers because they become criminals if they make backup copies and it does bring money to lawyers and organisations like riaa.
The choice, justice, our rights and quality suffer in a process.
Sad thing is: there is no escape. They won the war already because they have bigger bugs to buy bigger guns or lawyers.
I stopped buying CDs few years back. I do not use 'illegal' copies but I dont buy 'legal' ones either. I suffer a little but I can live without it. I can sing to myself (god forbids that anybody hears) so I am fine. I am sure however that there is a law making this illegal too.
In my splendid corporation those parts that still exist in developed world (60k emplyees all over) were meant to adopt Vista in their microsoft domains as soon as middle of 2007. This has been delayed for unspecified reasons for unspecified time. I find it nice that it is so.
I doubt however that this changes anything.
This visa thing is just plain stupid. Creating limits one gives power to the already powerful.
OTOH I wonder how long this oursourcing bonanza will last. India and China (and others) need skilled people for own projects, the companies from the west rushing in do not help to keep the labour prices low. The end effect is crap - when we outsource projects we get pure and stinking crap: crap service, crap quality of products - generally crap. Not because there are no skilled people out there. Only they are in such high demand that you can only get less skilled - after all one does all this to save money not because one likes it otherwise they could pay the same an engineer in UK or Germany or whatever.
I saw it happening with my own western sweatshop giving projects to Wipro (among other crapy outfits). What we got back is not documented products that do not work and have no support 'cause wipro did not see the need to have any feedback lines prepared. This is extreme but apparently normal for any outsourcing project of late. Funnily the result is also that job losses have been reverted because we need people to fix the shit delivered by subcontractors in 'cheap' countries.
I guess we are close to end of offshoring/outsourcing managment fashion because of labour shortages. Time to devise another stupid management fashion that creates welth for some and misery for others.
Fallacy.
What you say about google's way into its current position is OC true - they did it by their own devices and their own virtue. If you say that free market gives you right to succeed as well as to lose you may be right too. But once a company like google reaches dominant position to the extent that rivals do not really count it is a matter for the regulators. The reason being that Google as any other organisation is led by people and these once given power will abuse it. Whether due to ignorance, incompetence or rather due to evil plan is not important. Important is that the power is being abused and that is wrong.
That said I am not so sure whether what is described in TFA is anything else as sheer incompetence and does not deserve bandwith that is wasted while people discussing it.
.
I remeber having B. type of social control in a country I come from and this was a communist country. I had simialr observation about public spaces in UK where I lived and worked for while. Add to this the fact that majority if not all public space available (in shopping malls and such) are properly video supervised and what you write seems to make even sense.
Orwell would be proud of his predictions even if current big brother state needs no war to proceed with its big brother style invigilation.
If one were to replace governement officials which rule in my country with apes the situation would improve, I am sure this is the case in majority of countries. So the question about apes getting human rights is simple to answer. While we are at re-assigning human rights we need to do something with the politicians - scrapping them would be a proper thing to do.
I suppose that it all come down to horse's arse - in roman empire's times it was a direct measure for the size of a wagon. The size of the wagon dictated the size of the roads. This in turn did dictate ... and because of that we have the architecture of 86 still with us.
Had the romans had leaner and faster horses we would have faster processors. It is that simple.
but the problems with speed are down to the coding faults people make because they have not a clue how java really works (not a clue about .net - never worked with it). OC you may say that because java folk is an uneducated lot then it is irrelevant whether java code can be fast or not - dead weight of java coder will kill the speed anyway. //
OSS idealy allows the user to take the software and go to another design organisation that provide same or better service. This makes a difference if the original maker is out of reach or unwilling/unable to provide fixes and improvements timely. That is advante as I see it. My fellow business people do not see it this way though. They like to complain however how their software vendor (and we are not talking about our beloved M$) let them waiting for years for update and when it comes it has hundreds of features that they do not want plus this one or two they were begging for. If they could pay independent designer for upgrade they would get what they wanted within months instead of years.
OC without sorting out licenses etc this has no chance of succeeding.
nobody makes money on actual work anymore - what are the volumes on stock exchanges of the world and what these volumes have to do with the actual real wares and work - not much. This applies to iron smelters as well as bit smelters. The profits get virtualized while our jobs get globalized. Doing things is not really profitable anymore and brings our planet to its end anyway (as it causes different types of waste all over) so we should welcome this trend. The only problem is that this leads us from (kind of) democratic society with citizens having some and same rights to the society where few plutocrats own almost all and control all. But besides that it is a trend to be welcomed.
Side question: why are these applications written by none experts so crapy. COuld this be that they miss skills or brains or possible both?