Why does anyone require 'due diligence' and fact-checking against insane violent assholes like these Sunni extremist fuckstains that laughingly call themselves the 'Islamic State'
The due diligence isn't for checking whether ISIS is responsible, or a worthy target. The due diligence is for making sure that the people you're attacking are actually ISIS.
We've seen some pretty high-profile examples of Anonymous having some, shall we say, targeting mishaps in the past. And if you need a citation for that, you don't know enough about Anonymous to participate in this conversation.
The best example is back when we had a draft, some people wanted to be conscientious objectors basically arguing that joining the army was against their religion.
Conscientious objectors are held to a higher standard by government because there's always the fear that there might not be enough young people for the politicians and generals to throw into some foreign meat grinder and then those leaders would have to find another way to treat their erectile dysfunction.
A drivers license photo? Not really that big a deal.
And finally, on the legality of it... Killing medical personnel, such as a corpsman trying to evacuate a wounded soldier, is not illegal — not at all. It is perfectly legitimate.
Well, I think you've proved my point, haven't you?
with special thanks to all the inept English teachers who've incorrectly taught for decades that you shouldn't begin a sentence with "and"
I taught English at the university level for over 25 years. If it says what you want it to say, it doesn't matter how you start - or finish - a sentence.
I not only start sentences with "and" but I'll finish them with a preposition any goddamn time I want to. It's one thing to teach the rules of grammar, but it's another thing to expect strict adherence. You also wouldn't correct Miles Davis for not having proper embouchure or Van Gogh for having rough brush strokes.
Maybe Obama will try to spin it that way for certain. He has a lot lose at this point. History is going to judge him pretty harshly I think in the end for ISIS. Even if GWB continues to get the blame for its conception it will be hard for Obama to duck responsibility for his policies toward the middle east, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan in particular providing the incubator for it to grow
It's tempting to try to see history in these discrete 4 or 8 year chunks, but what's going on in the Middle East has been cooking for a long time.
Remember the bombing of the US barracks in Beirut, 1983? 300-plus died, including 241 US servicemen and 58 French paratroopers. Two suicide bombers, 300 dead. It was Reagan's Benghazi, but it didn't start there, either. People with grievance and no power are going to engage in this kind of asymmetrical warfare. We recognize it today as "terrorism" because we're generally so much safer than at any other time in history that the savagery of the violence shocks us into recognition.
When Tamerlane built a pyramid of 90,000 skulls at the gates to Delhi, it had an effect way beyond that of the 90,000 deaths. "Shock and Awe" or beheading videos, drone-bombing hospitals and weddings or cutting throats on HD video, if you're willing to show sufficient depravity, you'll get your point across.
Are children 'children' or the next generation to do this sort of thing?
They're definitely the next generation to do this sort of thing if they see you bombing other children like them.
If you keep doing what you been doing, you're gonna keep getting what you got. And we've been crushing the Middle East for a long time. Maybe try something different?
Also often a night seems clear but there is still plenty of wispy cloud cover which will highlight where a beam is pointing.
I lived about 10 blocks West of the Sears tower and used to take a cheap laser pointer to the park with me when I walked my dog, because she likes to chase it around (yeah, I heard it wasn't really safe, but the dog is 16 years old and she doesn't seem concerned about the possible dangers).
I can see the pointer on the side of buildings blocks away, but I can't see any beam. Is that because those cheap laser pointers don't have the power of the fancy emerald ones? If I blow smoke in front of the laser pointer, I can see a beam for a second, but not otherwise unless it's foggy.
Thanks for the informative response. Now I'm gonna have to go get an expensive laser and point it around. If I get in trouble, I'll tell them you said it was OK.
Do me a favor and gather up the wattage of the sun vs the wattage of the brightest light on a plane. Next get me the diameter of the sun compared with that of said blinking light.
I wasn't trying to challenge you, I just really didn't know.
On a clear night, how do you see the beam part of the laser? And how do you see the "pointer" end of the laser if the constellation is 400 light years away? Does it bounce off something in the general direction of the constellation?
I'm curious how someone on the ground is able to aim at the windshield of the cockpit from the ground.
It's not just planes. I live near a university medical center and the medical choppers are always flying around at night. I've even seen them land in the baseball field at the park (I don't know why) and there's a lot more exposure in those cockpits. (Are helicopter cabins called cockpits too?)
Is there special illumination of the instruments that still allows for sufficient field of vision at night? I've got some night blindness and when I do drive at night, I have to dial down the dashboard lights to almost nothing.
If they are calling people pointing at constellations who can't even see the planes at night "laser strikes" they should be prepared to be laughed into we don't care mode by pretty much everyone.
This is interesting. What does pointing a laser at a constellation do for you? And how is it that you can see something 400 light years away, but not a plane with blinking lights at 30,000 feet?
You look around you and you can say "There's nothing else that could be done that isn't getting done"?
I'm glad you challenged my statement.
I should have said, "The world has reached peak private sector jobs."
Of course, there is plenty to be done, and jobs can be had doing those things. But not from the private sector. We're going to have to accept large-scale pubic works projects, infrastructure building and fixing, and other public-sector jobs if we want to keep people working. And that means tax money.
Not at all. Obama engaged in massive crony capitalism and promised economic outcomes that haven't come true; the man is either a fraud or incompetent. And the economy is far worse than it could be.
And yet, you completely believe in his Department of Labor's employment numbers.
Why wouldn't they have any jobs? Median unemployment is about 10 weeks, and has been since the 1970's.
I'm curious. If you believe that unemployment is historically low, does that mean you're a big supporter of the Obama Administration's handling of the economy?
What evidence is there for a "labor surplus"? By historical standards, the US unemployment rate is fairly low.
Right now, we're dealing with the labor surplus through mass incarceration, disability, and people just leaving the labor market. Not that "full employment" is a worthy goal, but with real incomes declining, a smaller percentage of people in the workforce means more poverty.
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The due diligence isn't for checking whether ISIS is responsible, or a worthy target. The due diligence is for making sure that the people you're attacking are actually ISIS.
We've seen some pretty high-profile examples of Anonymous having some, shall we say, targeting mishaps in the past. And if you need a citation for that, you don't know enough about Anonymous to participate in this conversation.
Conscientious objectors are held to a higher standard by government because there's always the fear that there might not be enough young people for the politicians and generals to throw into some foreign meat grinder and then those leaders would have to find another way to treat their erectile dysfunction.
A drivers license photo? Not really that big a deal.
Where do you buy your salt water fish? I have a taste for some sea bass, broiled with olives and capers.
Black Fridays Matter.
Here you go. Maybe you didn't read it the first time:
http://972mag.com/report-detai...
Well, I think you've proved my point, haven't you?
OK, Seattle is the exception that proves the rule. I'll give you that one.
https://youtu.be/VYakrSp9DqM
And liberal cities have the hottest women. You can look it up.
I taught English at the university level for over 25 years. If it says what you want it to say, it doesn't matter how you start - or finish - a sentence.
I not only start sentences with "and" but I'll finish them with a preposition any goddamn time I want to. It's one thing to teach the rules of grammar, but it's another thing to expect strict adherence. You also wouldn't correct Miles Davis for not having proper embouchure or Van Gogh for having rough brush strokes.
I was hoping you'd ask.
http://972mag.com/report-detai...
You can find more examples by Googling "double tap bombing".
ISIS did not start in Iraq.
It's tempting to try to see history in these discrete 4 or 8 year chunks, but what's going on in the Middle East has been cooking for a long time.
Remember the bombing of the US barracks in Beirut, 1983? 300-plus died, including 241 US servicemen and 58 French paratroopers. Two suicide bombers, 300 dead. It was Reagan's Benghazi, but it didn't start there, either. People with grievance and no power are going to engage in this kind of asymmetrical warfare. We recognize it today as "terrorism" because we're generally so much safer than at any other time in history that the savagery of the violence shocks us into recognition.
When Tamerlane built a pyramid of 90,000 skulls at the gates to Delhi, it had an effect way beyond that of the 90,000 deaths. "Shock and Awe" or beheading videos, drone-bombing hospitals and weddings or cutting throats on HD video, if you're willing to show sufficient depravity, you'll get your point across.
That's also one of the Israeli government's favorite tactics.
They're definitely the next generation to do this sort of thing if they see you bombing other children like them.
If you keep doing what you been doing, you're gonna keep getting what you got. And we've been crushing the Middle East for a long time. Maybe try something different?
I lived about 10 blocks West of the Sears tower and used to take a cheap laser pointer to the park with me when I walked my dog, because she likes to chase it around (yeah, I heard it wasn't really safe, but the dog is 16 years old and she doesn't seem concerned about the possible dangers).
I can see the pointer on the side of buildings blocks away, but I can't see any beam. Is that because those cheap laser pointers don't have the power of the fancy emerald ones? If I blow smoke in front of the laser pointer, I can see a beam for a second, but not otherwise unless it's foggy.
Thanks for the informative response. Now I'm gonna have to go get an expensive laser and point it around. If I get in trouble, I'll tell them you said it was OK.
I wasn't trying to challenge you, I just really didn't know.
On a clear night, how do you see the beam part of the laser? And how do you see the "pointer" end of the laser if the constellation is 400 light years away? Does it bounce off something in the general direction of the constellation?
That's not a terminal. Now THIS is a terminal:
https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/40th/i...
It's not just planes. I live near a university medical center and the medical choppers are always flying around at night. I've even seen them land in the baseball field at the park (I don't know why) and there's a lot more exposure in those cockpits. (Are helicopter cabins called cockpits too?)
Is there special illumination of the instruments that still allows for sufficient field of vision at night? I've got some night blindness and when I do drive at night, I have to dial down the dashboard lights to almost nothing.
This is interesting. What does pointing a laser at a constellation do for you? And how is it that you can see something 400 light years away, but not a plane with blinking lights at 30,000 feet?
I'm glad you challenged my statement.
I should have said, "The world has reached peak private sector jobs."
Of course, there is plenty to be done, and jobs can be had doing those things. But not from the private sector. We're going to have to accept large-scale pubic works projects, infrastructure building and fixing, and other public-sector jobs if we want to keep people working. And that means tax money.
And yet, you completely believe in his Department of Labor's employment numbers.
I'm curious. If you believe that unemployment is historically low, does that mean you're a big supporter of the Obama Administration's handling of the economy?
Because they won't have jobs.
Right now, we're dealing with the labor surplus through mass incarceration, disability, and people just leaving the labor market. Not that "full employment" is a worthy goal, but with real incomes declining, a smaller percentage of people in the workforce means more poverty.