In addition to the previous reply, are you going to check all the internals of all your machines, clocks, microwaves, TVs, radios, car, bla bla bla? What about the banks that do business with Sony? The sports bar that has a wall full of Sony monitors? Hospitals with Sony electronics? Sony doesn't know you exist.. This isn't like a bus boycott in Alabama. Sony is everywhere. You will not avoid Sony. Get over it.
So I should rush out and buy a Sony TV, knowing that it's low quality and I'm supporting a company that is openly hostile to me, the consumer.
Like the other responder pointed out, you simply dont "get it". I can avoid purchasing all Sony branded products, you're just being a pedantic moron by trying to link my purchases indirectly to Sony.
I choose not to buy Sony branded products because the Sony brand is anit-consumer. Now they do not earn nearly enough from selling capacitors and Li-ion cells at low margins to other companies, they earn their profit from high margin items like TV's. Sony's wholesale is nothing compared to their retail. Boycots hurt large companies, although negative publicity is better. A 10% drop in retail sales sends a very clear message.
Let's do some calculations. Cat-5 cable has eight strands of AWG 24 wire, which has 817.7 feet/lb, that means the cable contains one pound of copper for each 102.2 feet. Scrap copper is worth $4.30/lb, meaning 23.77 feet of cat-5 are worth $1.
For the 95% of the world that does not use such archaic measurements:
Let's do some calculations. Cat-5 cable has eight strands of AWG 24 wire, which has 385 metres per KG, that means the cable contains one KG of copper per 48 metres.. Scrap copper is worth approx $8 per KG (Approx price of scrap copper in Sydney, AUD is 1.04 USD), meaning 8 metres of cat-5 are worth $1.
Ignoring this, buried copper is almost guaranteed not to be CAT 5, probably only 1 or 2 twisted pairs but it will include a lot more shielding then CAT5 and there will likely be more then one cable laid side by side. Not sure how the Soviets did it, but in OZ, cables were laid in pits and ducts, meaning you only need to break into a duct to get easy access to copper.
Look. Mental addiction is just mental. It's bullshit. You bitch slap the person till the get in fucking line.
Go study some brain chemistry and come back to us with an educated claim. Addiction can have triggers that are not due to chemicals introduced into the blood stream. That does not mean that the addiction cannot cause actual physiological symptoms and be a serious hurdle to overcome.
Judging the hardships of others purely based on your own experience is simply arrogant. With your logic no one on this planet should commit suicide since there is no chemical messing with their brain.
I agree,
A physiological dependency is as real as chemical dependency, but treated very differently.
Perhaps we should Bitch Slap the GP till he gets back into fucking line.
WTF?... What a fucking low standard we should hold 16 year old's to these days?
Makes me feel old beyond my years to say that I attended multiple birthdays of 'old people' and managed to look like I was sharing the same reality.
It is very important to remember that it's your kids you'll be relying on in the later years. So threatening your son at 18 years, move out or join the army means that when you're 65, he'll remember that when he sticks you in the home he saw on 60 minutes.
Just stop it.. Okay? Don't be an idiot.. If you want to boycott Sony, you're gonna have to boycott everything... Maybe even toilet paper. Then you can learn what the left hand is really for..
As someone who already avoids buying Sony products, yes, yes I will.
Happy with my HTC built Android phone, Asus built laptop and Samsung displays and NEC projector.
(X) Achievement unlocked: No Sony Timer installed.
First we came for the smokers,
then we decided to go after the people who use pointless memes to equate things that they do not like to a Hitlerian regime.
They can afford to charge lower prices because they have a great content delivery method, which cuts out the whole packing/shipping process.
Contrary to popular belief, that cost is not as high as you think. I can get games shipped to one of the most geographically remote nations on earth for $10 with DHL, economies of scale tell me that price goes down when you ship 10,000 units at a time.
Why is it that a local copy still costs me $20 more then buying it from Hong Kong and FedExing it.
Valve has got an excellent method of dealing with piracy. While not perfect, it does tend to cut back on the "I can't afford it, so I'll just steal it" attitude. You really can't argue price points when you can purchase a 12-game bundle for $20US, even if only half of the games are ones you'd actually play.
Here's a big problem non-USian's have. That US$20 translates into A$50 by some weird form of mathematics that defies all conventional logic considering that A$20 is US$20.66 at the moment. The AUD hasn't been under 0.5 USD for the better part of 5 years.
I don't blame Steam for this, it's the publishers who enforce regional pricing but with, as you pointed out, shipping prices being equal there is simply no logical reason for it other then to fleece gamers in other nations for fun and profit.
These are the same publishers who are calling my nation, a nation of filthy pirates. If that is true (and their statistics tend to indicate they are talking out of their arse) its a situation entirely of their own doing by hideously overcharging us.
If demand is below the price set by the seller, the buyer will acquire the item through alternate channels where available.
Piracy dropped like a stone when cheap downloads became available. If you want to kill it off entirely, stop charging the same price for media that are new and media that are 20 years old.
Exactly, why would I go to the trouble of infringement when I can get the same product without the hassle for a trivial amount of money.
The problem is, 98% of the time, the same product is not asking a trivial amount of money.
Products have to be worth the asking price. If it's not, that isn't a problem with your customers.
Separate CPU's are mainly for OEM manufacturers. The so called "mum and pop" stores. This is also why separate mainboards are sold. 80% of the boxes built from local retailers wont be opened by the end user either.
They are made as separate units for obvious reasons, same with GPU's. because if one component breaks you don't want to replace the whole thing.
Nobody really replaces CPUs. As of a few years ago, 80% of desktop machines were never opened during their lifetime. That's probably higher now, and higher still for laptops.
Sigh,
It's a shame that you are quite correct. Most people don't see the inside of their computers for the entire lifetime. I don't think I've opened mine since mid last year.
But there really isn't a point to open it unless you've got something that's broken. If a computer is more then 2 years old it's often more trouble to source a compatible component then it is to buy a new one. Especially if the machine was cheap to begin with (cheap more often then not == old components) so a 2 yr old PC can easily have a 4 yr old processor that's been out of stock in most places for over 12 months.
So for many people, just buy a new one is an acceptable answer. More cost in the time and trouble in getting it repaired.
I also don't buy into that bollocks that most people don't treat computers like appliances. Years of being a sysadmin have shown me that they treat them like cars and 90% of people don't know how cars work or how to care for them outside of putting in oil and water (and 40% of people cant do that). The only difference is that people will fix a $20,000 car but will simply replace a $1,000 laptop when it's giving them trouble.
90% of the cracks or keygens she downloads will also install a Trojan
I'd LOVE to see the source that supports this ridiculous claim.
90% I highly doubt, but it would be higher then normal. I'd say 30-40%. I'm sourcing that number from the same orifice as the GP mind you.
When selecting "DRM removal methods" you should always check your source. Some are good, others like random torrents of cracks are more then often bad. It would be very easy to cherrypick bad sources of cracks to provide such statistics.
Because creating software is so easy, that people shouldn't expect any return for it.
A product is worth what a purchaser will pay for it, not what a vendor is asking for it. Software licenses have long been used as a means of trying to get around this.
Copyright infringement is the natural result of when the value of a product as perceived by it's purchaser is not equal to the price asked by the vendor.
Creating something does _not_ repeat does _NOT_ entitle you to money for it. Stop pretending just because you wrote a few lines of code you are entitled to have you hand in my pocket. This is what I mean when I deride a developers childish sense of entitlement.
Now in the case of this developer, I don't see anything wrong here. Using services that cost the victim money is questionably legal, but what the victim did in the first place is also, quite questionable, seems almost fitting. However the fact that both sides are wrong will never stop the lawyers on either side.
Right and legal drugs don't have an underground market.
Ummm... Tobacco, alcohol are legal drugs, but there is plenty of black market for both.
He did say "right", some people have a moral objection to tobacco and alcohol (not me mind you, I enjoy a drink and dont give a crap if you smoke, so long as it's not near me).
But black markets only exist where there is a profit to be made. In Oz there isn't really a black market for Panadol (paracetamol pain relievers, yanks call it Tylenol) because the government allows stores to sell generics. So I walk into a chemist (Yankish: drug store) and I have the choice between 12 x brand name Panadol at $6 or 48 x generic brand pain reliever at $4. Compared to this, a black market cannot profit. Stronger stuff, yes as that is more tightly controlled, but once again demand is fairly low so black marketeers tend to favour illicit rather then controlled drugs. When a pack of codeine tablets is almost as much as a bag of weed from a dealer, most people pick the weed as if you have an actual need for codeine, prescriptions aren't that hard to get.
It is in the middle ground where they can be both a little open, yet still control the platform and keep quality and homogeneity high.
Another reason which is probably just as important is that Honeycomb is designed for tablets, releasing the source will ensure it gets ported to phones. What Google is planning to do is combine to two (honeycomb is a fork, at least as far as the UI is concerned) with Android 2.4 (Ice cream)
the easiest, most accommodating, most open gets adopted eventually.
Then why hasn't this happened in set-top video gaming? More specifically, what distinguishes phones from game consoles and from dedicated gaming handhelds in this respect? Or are we still waiting for "eventually"?
Hi, I'm a gaming PC.
You remember me, the largest and most diverse gaming platform.
I'd also like to point out, whilst none are particularly hacker friendly the most hacker friendly consoles tend to get the largest market share. The Wii won this time, before that the PS2 (although the Xbox 360 was pretty hackable too) then the PS1, and the SNES. I remember all the hacked carts for the SNES, in fact I still have an old Action Replay lying around the place.
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In addition to the previous reply, are you going to check all the internals of all your machines, clocks, microwaves, TVs, radios, car, bla bla bla? What about the banks that do business with Sony? The sports bar that has a wall full of Sony monitors? Hospitals with Sony electronics? Sony doesn't know you exist.. This isn't like a bus boycott in Alabama. Sony is everywhere. You will not avoid Sony. Get over it.
So I should rush out and buy a Sony TV, knowing that it's low quality and I'm supporting a company that is openly hostile to me, the consumer.
Like the other responder pointed out, you simply dont "get it". I can avoid purchasing all Sony branded products, you're just being a pedantic moron by trying to link my purchases indirectly to Sony.
I choose not to buy Sony branded products because the Sony brand is anit-consumer. Now they do not earn nearly enough from selling capacitors and Li-ion cells at low margins to other companies, they earn their profit from high margin items like TV's. Sony's wholesale is nothing compared to their retail. Boycots hurt large companies, although negative publicity is better. A 10% drop in retail sales sends a very clear message.
Get a clue.
Out of interest who made the battery in your laptop? Did they pay Sony for any patents they might hold on battery technology? Are you sure?
Branded Asus, Made in Korea.
Thanks for your interest. See this guy.
In Soviet Georgia, cable cut you.
OK, maybe it really is "you cut cable", given the number of wire cuts I've had.
So, is this technically a DOS attack?
Denial of Shovel?
I say pay her room and board, and free internet, until she dies.
At her age, she probably gets a pension from the government.
However, if you consider
However if you consider that not all nations actually have an old age pension.
Old age pensions are a very western concept, for rich nations that can afford them.
For the 95% of the world that does not use such archaic measurements:
Let's do some calculations. Cat-5 cable has eight strands of AWG 24 wire, which has 385 metres per KG, that means the cable contains one KG of copper per 48 metres.. Scrap copper is worth approx $8 per KG (Approx price of scrap copper in Sydney, AUD is 1.04 USD), meaning 8 metres of cat-5 are worth $1.
Ignoring this, buried copper is almost guaranteed not to be CAT 5, probably only 1 or 2 twisted pairs but it will include a lot more shielding then CAT5 and there will likely be more then one cable laid side by side. Not sure how the Soviets did it, but in OZ, cables were laid in pits and ducts, meaning you only need to break into a duct to get easy access to copper.
Look. Mental addiction is just mental. It's bullshit. You bitch slap the person till the get in fucking line.
Go study some brain chemistry and come back to us with an educated claim. Addiction can have triggers that are not due to chemicals introduced into the blood stream. That does not mean that the addiction cannot cause actual physiological symptoms and be a serious hurdle to overcome.
Judging the hardships of others purely based on your own experience is simply arrogant. With your logic no one on this planet should commit suicide since there is no chemical messing with their brain.
I agree,
A physiological dependency is as real as chemical dependency, but treated very differently.
Perhaps we should Bitch Slap the GP till he gets back into fucking line.
WTF?... What a fucking low standard we should hold 16 year old's to these days?
Makes me feel old beyond my years to say that I attended multiple birthdays of 'old people' and managed to look like I was sharing the same reality.
It is very important to remember that it's your kids you'll be relying on in the later years. So threatening your son at 18 years, move out or join the army means that when you're 65, he'll remember that when he sticks you in the home he saw on 60 minutes.
Why not just avoid buying Sony products?
Sheesh! You gonna avoid the iPhone 5 also?
Just stop it.. Okay? Don't be an idiot.. If you want to boycott Sony, you're gonna have to boycott everything... Maybe even toilet paper. Then you can learn what the left hand is really for..
As someone who already avoids buying Sony products, yes, yes I will.
Happy with my HTC built Android phone, Asus built laptop and Samsung displays and NEC projector.
(X) Achievement unlocked: No Sony Timer installed.
Where can I get legal, under-aged girls to have sex with?
Thailand
He said legal.
How young are you looking for???? Nevermind don't answer...
He said "underage" meaning below the legal age in his nation, or at the very least he meant 18.
You wont legally find a Thai lady under the age of 20 "working bar" because it's illegal for a bar to employ a lady under the age of 20.
This is one of the laws Thailand actually enforces. Unlike the one where men pay for the "bar ladies" company.
You already did the second bit when you went after the smokers in the first place. There is no "then". ;)
I accidentally left out the word "instead" so the joke should have gone.
Then we decided to go after the $GROUP instead.
So your grammar nazi-ism is not so appropriate, more my bad memory and lack of prof reedign.
Where can I get legal, under-aged girls to have sex with?
Thailand
He said legal.
Why do you consider mineral water to be healthy food? Mineral water is just an environmentally disgraceful, extremely expensive plain old tap water.
There, fixed that for you.
First we came for the smokers,
then we decided to go after the people who use pointless memes to equate things that they do not like to a Hitlerian regime.
Then we had much rejoicing.
Contrary to popular belief, that cost is not as high as you think. I can get games shipped to one of the most geographically remote nations on earth for $10 with DHL, economies of scale tell me that price goes down when you ship 10,000 units at a time. Why is it that a local copy still costs me $20 more then buying it from Hong Kong and FedExing it.
Here's a big problem non-USian's have. That US$20 translates into A$50 by some weird form of mathematics that defies all conventional logic considering that A$20 is US$20.66 at the moment. The AUD hasn't been under 0.5 USD for the better part of 5 years.
I don't blame Steam for this, it's the publishers who enforce regional pricing but with, as you pointed out, shipping prices being equal there is simply no logical reason for it other then to fleece gamers in other nations for fun and profit.
These are the same publishers who are calling my nation, a nation of filthy pirates. If that is true (and their statistics tend to indicate they are talking out of their arse) its a situation entirely of their own doing by hideously overcharging us.
If demand is below the price set by the seller, the buyer will acquire the item through alternate channels where available.
Piracy dropped like a stone when cheap downloads became available. If you want to kill it off entirely, stop charging the same price for media that are new and media that are 20 years old.
Exactly, why would I go to the trouble of infringement when I can get the same product without the hassle for a trivial amount of money.
The problem is, 98% of the time, the same product is not asking a trivial amount of money.
Products have to be worth the asking price. If it's not, that isn't a problem with your customers.
That is who the separate CPUs are sold for.
Separate CPU's are mainly for OEM manufacturers. The so called "mum and pop" stores. This is also why separate mainboards are sold. 80% of the boxes built from local retailers wont be opened by the end user either.
They are made as separate units for obvious reasons, same with GPU's. because if one component breaks you don't want to replace the whole thing.
Nobody really replaces CPUs. As of a few years ago, 80% of desktop machines were never opened during their lifetime. That's probably higher now, and higher still for laptops.
Sigh,
It's a shame that you are quite correct. Most people don't see the inside of their computers for the entire lifetime. I don't think I've opened mine since mid last year.
But there really isn't a point to open it unless you've got something that's broken. If a computer is more then 2 years old it's often more trouble to source a compatible component then it is to buy a new one. Especially if the machine was cheap to begin with (cheap more often then not == old components) so a 2 yr old PC can easily have a 4 yr old processor that's been out of stock in most places for over 12 months.
So for many people, just buy a new one is an acceptable answer. More cost in the time and trouble in getting it repaired.
I also don't buy into that bollocks that most people don't treat computers like appliances. Years of being a sysadmin have shown me that they treat them like cars and 90% of people don't know how cars work or how to care for them outside of putting in oil and water (and 40% of people cant do that). The only difference is that people will fix a $20,000 car but will simply replace a $1,000 laptop when it's giving them trouble.
Try a walled garden. Keeps the retards out...
OTOH, it also keeps the retards locked in with you.
90% of the cracks or keygens she downloads will also install a Trojan
I'd LOVE to see the source that supports this ridiculous claim.
90% I highly doubt, but it would be higher then normal. I'd say 30-40%. I'm sourcing that number from the same orifice as the GP mind you.
When selecting "DRM removal methods" you should always check your source. Some are good, others like random torrents of cracks are more then often bad. It would be very easy to cherrypick bad sources of cracks to provide such statistics.
Because creating software is so easy, that people shouldn't expect any return for it.
A product is worth what a purchaser will pay for it, not what a vendor is asking for it. Software licenses have long been used as a means of trying to get around this.
Copyright infringement is the natural result of when the value of a product as perceived by it's purchaser is not equal to the price asked by the vendor.
Creating something does _not_ repeat does _NOT_ entitle you to money for it. Stop pretending just because you wrote a few lines of code you are entitled to have you hand in my pocket. This is what I mean when I deride a developers childish sense of entitlement.
Now in the case of this developer, I don't see anything wrong here. Using services that cost the victim money is questionably legal, but what the victim did in the first place is also, quite questionable, seems almost fitting. However the fact that both sides are wrong will never stop the lawyers on either side.
In the name of the queen, we hereby sentence you, Elisabeth, Queen of England...
I'd pay to see that!
Oh fer christ's sake,
We've got enough bloody pom's in Australia already.
Right and legal drugs don't have an underground market.
Ummm... Tobacco, alcohol are legal drugs, but there is plenty of black market for both.
He did say "right", some people have a moral objection to tobacco and alcohol (not me mind you, I enjoy a drink and dont give a crap if you smoke, so long as it's not near me).
But black markets only exist where there is a profit to be made. In Oz there isn't really a black market for Panadol (paracetamol pain relievers, yanks call it Tylenol) because the government allows stores to sell generics. So I walk into a chemist (Yankish: drug store) and I have the choice between 12 x brand name Panadol at $6 or 48 x generic brand pain reliever at $4. Compared to this, a black market cannot profit. Stronger stuff, yes as that is more tightly controlled, but once again demand is fairly low so black marketeers tend to favour illicit rather then controlled drugs. When a pack of codeine tablets is almost as much as a bag of weed from a dealer, most people pick the weed as if you have an actual need for codeine, prescriptions aren't that hard to get.
It is in the middle ground where they can be both a little open, yet still control the platform and keep quality and homogeneity high.
Another reason which is probably just as important is that Honeycomb is designed for tablets, releasing the source will ensure it gets ported to phones. What Google is planning to do is combine to two (honeycomb is a fork, at least as far as the UI is concerned) with Android 2.4 (Ice cream)
the easiest, most accommodating, most open gets adopted eventually.
Then why hasn't this happened in set-top video gaming? More specifically, what distinguishes phones from game consoles and from dedicated gaming handhelds in this respect? Or are we still waiting for "eventually"?
Hi, I'm a gaming PC.
You remember me, the largest and most diverse gaming platform.
I'd also like to point out, whilst none are particularly hacker friendly the most hacker friendly consoles tend to get the largest market share. The Wii won this time, before that the PS2 (although the Xbox 360 was pretty hackable too) then the PS1, and the SNES. I remember all the hacked carts for the SNES, in fact I still have an old Action Replay lying around the place.