>UNDER EMULATION MODE It should be noted that FX32, the 32bit x86 emulation program that is used under NT to run "legacy" software does that fancy dynamic recompilation stuff, so after running an app for a while, it will have translated the whole thing into RISCy alpha instructions. Also, all system calls are native, so it's not really Bytecode for Bytecode emulation.
>a little software company from Redmond started >sorta like VA. I am going to have to wait and see >on this one. If you mean it was started by a college student disatified by current hardware, ironically, you're thinking of sun. If I remember my silicon valley history correctly, a bunch of grad students were upset with the quality, cost, or existence of workstations, so they founded Sun. And now, these VA guys found a company because Sun's cost workstations cost too much.
The legend of MS is that ole Billy Boy got his start selling PCs out of his car at Harvard, or whatever school he dropped out of.
This says nothing about when Quake 3 will come out, just that q3test is coming out for macs, then linux, then windows. It's just a beta thing. You start out with a small group (macs) so you can find the big bugs, move to a bigger one (linux) so you can find the medium sized bugs and then onto the big group (windows) so you can get all the teeny tiny bugs out. Very logical. If they started out with windows, they'd have a hard time sorting through all the bug reports, matching similar ones, etc.
First of all, I was merly trying to prove to the AC that the German people did not elect Hitler as a dictator. They did not know of what his plans were at the time. >>Hitler had enough Nazis in the legislative body >>to give him power to form laws >How did they get there? They were elected. >Probably they weren't elected very honestly, but >again, that's in the nature of elections. I probably should have said "suporters," instead of "Nazis," where "suporters" is the union of "Nazis" and people who supported Hitler in fear for there life.
>>He then dismantled the rest of the government >>and built it back up to suit him. >And? Again, this was done by political means, >with a garnish of terror around the edges; but >the terror was not directed at the majority of >the electorate. It was directed at fringe groups >like Jews and communists, and also at political >opponents. You can't overthrow a government with the government. There has to be some point where you just dismantle everything, throw it all out and rebuild it.
The difference between the people would like to rebuild or dismantle parts of the US government and Hitler is their platform. Hitler said that he was a big conservative, was going to make Germany strong after WWI. He didn't metion the fact that he wanted to become a dictator and kill all the Jews, Gypsies, Gays, and anyone else he didn't like. The libretarian and other such parties platforms is the partial or total destruction of government. They're honest about what they want.
...would be an even bigger disaster than the war on drugs. The reason that is such a problem is because there are smart, responsible people who enjoy the recreational use of controled substances and are willing to risk quite a bit to get it. Likewise, there are smart, responsible people who enjoy the recreational and self defense use of firearms. Compare taking herion from a junkie with taking a pistol from a member of the NRA and I think you'll see that neither is worth the risk.
>My take on the firearms issue? Both positions >have flaws: but on the whole I like the idea of >banning public access to lethal weapons. People >(in whatever groupings you choose) are just too >irrational and, all too often, just plain stupid. I have to disagree. There are millions of gun owning americans who've never shot anyone. And there are also many americans (say, thousands) who've been able to stop a crime because they own a gun.
Some people are irrational, yes. People drink themselves to death every year, people fall asleep at the wheel and kill minivan's full of kids, some people abuse there children, some people run with sharp things. Just because stupid people do stupid things, should we outlaw booze, cars, procreation, and sharp things? Lots of stupid people do stupid things, yes, but we can't let a few bad apples ruin the pie.
>...there are dictators who are elected. Hitler >was of the latter variety. Hitler was not "elected" dictator. He was elected, mostly by slandering and slaughtering his opponents, to a position in Germany most like Prime Minister I suppose, as there was still someove above him, not royalty, but a president. Hitler had enough Nazis in the legislative body to give him power to form laws. He then dismantled the rest of the government and built it back up to suit him. And yes, Hitler did take away people's guns and no, that probably wouldn't have stopped WWII, but at least we would have found out a little sooner (ala Kosovo). All this information was gathered from ABC's "Century" TV program, but I don't doubt that it's factual.
>If I can have the right to own a gun, why can't I >have the right to own a nuclear warhead? They are >both intended for the same purpose.
No, they're not. A nuclear warhead is a weapon of war, of mass destruction, and of utter and total inhalation. A pistol, rifle, or shotgun, non-automatic, is a tool for self defense.
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>NeXT. What we think of as the modern GUI >originated at Xerox in the late 60s. That's not true. Xerox's Alto GUI was backwards from what we use today. First you selected an action, then you selected an object. Apple flipped it 'round, set it straight. Object then action. And that's for what little GUI Alto had. Most of it was just a bunch of "xterms" doing CLI stuff.
If you're not refering to implementation, but ideas, then it goes way back, before Xerox, before Parc, before computers.
You can. Since the inception of the imac, the ROM, the only part of a macintosh apple really owns outright, is now part of the software. You can make a Mac clone! The ROM license is now part of the Software cost, not the hardware cost. Go ahead. Go on! Reverse engineer to your heart's content!
Cap'n BootX, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, used the ext2 lib ported for LinuxDisks to write an extension that mounts ext2 disks right on the desktop. Can windows do that? Slick-o-rama.
It's being worked on. Since most people aren't huge slackers who are too lazy to reformat their drives or too cheap to pluck down $20-$40 bucks or so for a gig drive, it's not a top priority.
According to this page, you'll be able to get linux preinstalled starting on March 17, saving "you up to 2 hours of loading time." Maybe it takes that long on an Alpha with old firmware...
>It used Objective C when C++ was on it's way to >becoming standard; They used Objective C for several reasons: 1) There are things that you can do in Objective C that are tricky or impossible to do in C++ 2) NextStep was designed for Academics and Academics already had knowledge of Real OO languages like SmallTalk 3) C++ isn't just an object orientated lanuage; it's just as the name implies, an extension to C. Objective C is a real OO lanuage
Besides, Objective-C just plain rocks. It's everything great about C, the managable OOness of SmallTalk, and the almost VM nature of java.
Yellow box is more or less the NextStep API. All the various objects still start with "NS," which is fairly amusing. I'd suspect that YellowBox is openstep compliant so, no, it's not closed, but it isn't really open either.
I think that between motorola's G3 docs, apple's hardware technotes, diagrams, and pinouts, open firmware, and the fact that G3 isn't an entirely new computing paradigm, that Be could support it, with little cost, if they wanted to. I mean, it's not like the G3 is some crazy new CPU with all sorts of kooky features, it's just a 603 with some fast cache. And Apple's desktop G3s aren't terribly different from any of their other computers either.
That being said, I also think Jobs doesn't like Gasse.
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OS X Server doesn't use X, it uses DisplayPostscript, like NeXt did. Thanks to gnustep, DisplayPostscript is available for X, though.
>UNDER EMULATION MODE
It should be noted that FX32, the 32bit x86 emulation program that is used under NT to run "legacy" software does that fancy dynamic recompilation stuff, so after running an app for a while, it will have translated the whole thing into RISCy alpha instructions. Also, all system calls are native, so it's not really Bytecode for Bytecode emulation.
>Win64 doesn't exist yet
Yes it does. It's WinNT for alphas.
>a little software company from Redmond started
>sorta like VA. I am going to have to wait and see >on this one.
If you mean it was started by a college student disatified by current hardware, ironically, you're thinking of sun. If I remember my silicon valley history correctly, a bunch of grad students were upset with the quality, cost, or existence of workstations, so they founded Sun. And now, these VA guys found a company because Sun's cost workstations cost too much.
The legend of MS is that ole Billy Boy got his start selling PCs out of his car at Harvard, or whatever school he dropped out of.
This says nothing about when Quake 3 will come out, just that q3test is coming out for macs, then linux, then windows. It's just a beta thing. You start out with a small group (macs) so you can find the big bugs, move to a bigger one (linux) so you can find the medium sized bugs and then onto the big group (windows) so you can get all the teeny tiny bugs out. Very logical. If they started out with windows, they'd have a hard time sorting through all the bug reports, matching similar ones, etc.
First of all, I was merly trying to prove to the AC that the German people did not elect Hitler as a dictator. They did not know of what his plans were at the time.
>>Hitler had enough Nazis in the legislative body
>>to give him power to form laws
>How did they get there? They were elected.
>Probably they weren't elected very honestly, but >again, that's in the nature of elections.
I probably should have said "suporters," instead of "Nazis," where "suporters" is the union of "Nazis" and people who supported Hitler in fear for there life.
>>He then dismantled the rest of the government
>>and built it back up to suit him.
>And? Again, this was done by political means,
>with a garnish of terror around the edges; but
>the terror was not directed at the majority of
>the electorate. It was directed at fringe groups >like Jews and communists, and also at political
>opponents.
You can't overthrow a government with the government. There has to be some point where you just dismantle everything, throw it all out and rebuild it.
The difference between the people would like to rebuild or dismantle parts of the US government and Hitler is their platform. Hitler said that he was a big conservative, was going to make Germany strong after WWI. He didn't metion the fact that he wanted to become a dictator and kill all the Jews, Gypsies, Gays, and anyone else he didn't like. The libretarian and other such parties platforms is the partial or total destruction of government. They're honest about what they want.
...would be an even bigger disaster than the war on drugs. The reason that is such a problem is because there are smart, responsible people who enjoy the recreational use of controled substances and are willing to risk quite a bit to get it. Likewise, there are smart, responsible people who enjoy the recreational and self defense use of firearms. Compare taking herion from a junkie with taking a pistol from a member of the NRA and I think you'll see that neither is worth the risk.
>My take on the firearms issue? Both positions
>have flaws: but on the whole I like the idea of
>banning public access to lethal weapons. People
>(in whatever groupings you choose) are just too
>irrational and, all too often, just plain stupid.
I have to disagree. There are millions of gun owning americans who've never shot anyone. And there are also many americans (say, thousands) who've been able to stop a crime because they own a gun.
Some people are irrational, yes. People drink themselves to death every year, people fall asleep at the wheel and kill minivan's full of kids, some people abuse there children, some people run with sharp things. Just because stupid people do stupid things, should we outlaw booze, cars, procreation, and sharp things? Lots of stupid people do stupid things, yes, but we can't let a few bad apples ruin the pie.
>...there are dictators who are elected. Hitler
>was of the latter variety.
Hitler was not "elected" dictator. He was elected, mostly by slandering and slaughtering his opponents, to a position in Germany most like Prime Minister I suppose, as there was still someove above him, not royalty, but a president. Hitler had enough Nazis in the legislative body to give him power to form laws. He then dismantled the rest of the government and built it back up to suit him. And yes, Hitler did take away people's guns and no, that probably wouldn't have stopped WWII, but at least we would have found out a little sooner (ala Kosovo). All this information was gathered from ABC's "Century" TV program, but I don't doubt that it's factual.
>If I can have the right to own a gun, why can't I >have the right to own a nuclear warhead? They are >both intended for the same purpose.
No, they're not. A nuclear warhead is a weapon of war, of mass destruction, and of utter and total inhalation. A pistol, rifle, or shotgun, non-automatic, is a tool for self defense.
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>NeXT. What we think of as the modern GUI
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>originated at Xerox in the late 60s.
That's not true. Xerox's Alto GUI was backwards from what we use today. First you selected an action, then you selected an object. Apple flipped it 'round, set it straight. Object then action. And that's for what little GUI Alto had. Most of it was just a bunch of "xterms" doing CLI stuff.
If you're not refering to implementation, but ideas, then it goes way back, before Xerox, before Parc, before computers.
http://www.mackido.com/Interface/ui_history.htm
You can. Since the inception of the imac, the ROM, the only part of a macintosh apple really owns outright, is now part of the software. You can make a Mac clone! The ROM license is now part of the Software cost, not the hardware cost. Go ahead. Go on! Reverse engineer to your heart's content!
I checked. It's two out of the box, recompile for more. Kinda like NT. ;)
MkLinux, Apple's Mach based Linux, supports either 2 or 4 processors out of the box. You can recompile it for more.
Wrong. As MacOS X is based on Mach, which has amazing support for mulitple processors.
Cap'n BootX, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, used the ext2 lib ported for LinuxDisks to write an extension that mounts ext2 disks right on the desktop. Can windows do that? Slick-o-rama.
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It's being worked on. Since most people aren't huge slackers who are too lazy to reformat their drives or too cheap to pluck down $20-$40 bucks or so for a gig drive, it's not a top priority.
that was Roy Rogers.
To continue the confusion, I declare that his horse's name was "Trigger."
I guess redhat must compile everything with gcc's -WorkStation flag, "optimizing" it for workstations.
Get a clue.
There's only one version of the apache source, there aren't any redhat specific kernel mods, and they don't include any wacky cron jobs.
According to this page, you'll be able to get linux preinstalled starting on March 17, saving "you up to 2 hours of loading time." Maybe it takes that long on an Alpha with old firmware...
>It used Objective C when C++ was on it's way to
>becoming standard;
They used Objective C for several reasons:
1) There are things that you can do in Objective C that are tricky or impossible to do in C++
2) NextStep was designed for Academics and Academics already had knowledge of Real OO languages like SmallTalk
3) C++ isn't just an object orientated lanuage; it's just as the name implies, an extension to C. Objective C is a real OO lanuage
Besides, Objective-C just plain rocks. It's everything great about C, the managable OOness of SmallTalk, and the almost VM nature of java.
Yellow box is more or less the NextStep API. All the various objects still start with "NS," which is fairly amusing. I'd suspect that YellowBox is openstep compliant so, no, it's not closed, but it isn't really open either.
I think that between motorola's G3 docs, apple's hardware technotes, diagrams, and pinouts, open firmware, and the fact that G3 isn't an entirely new computing paradigm, that Be could support it, with little cost, if they wanted to. I mean, it's not like the G3 is some crazy new CPU with all sorts of kooky features, it's just a 603 with some fast cache. And Apple's desktop G3s aren't terribly different from any of their other computers either.
That being said, I also think Jobs doesn't like Gasse.
Little bit of confusion here, I think.
3dNow is AMD's MMX.
The K7 is supposed to contain SIMD features similar to KNI, or Altivec.
Correct me if I'm wrong.