Common, it doesnt matter what firewall rules you impose there will be a way around it, all you need is someone co-operating on both sides of a firewall and you can tunnel through it.
Its difficult for any multi-architecture distribution to use a Linux kernel monte as introduces an basic inconsistancy between how the system behaves on different architectures.
"A 155 megabit circuit between Sydney and California, licensed for 15 years, which cost $US10.3 million, was discounted by 18 per cent if purchased before the November sales deadline."
It cost about 20c/MB retail for bandwidth in aus. This works out to a markup of 1400 times (see 1) between long term and short term prices.
I hope this link does bring down retail prices.
1) $ 10300000 / (15years * 155megabit * 52weeks * 7days * 24hours * 60minutes * 60 seconds) = 0.014 cents / megabit
I think i worked it out correctly
This simply means that there will more competition between 3dfx card vendors, which will result in a lower priced 3dfx which will be able to compete better agianst the evil^H^H^H^H heavily proprietry Nvidia.
Im sure this will lead to 3dfx becoming a stronger company.
When/how did microsoft show that microkernels dont work ?
Have you ever heard of QNX, its a microkernel, it works.
I read that the drawbacks to microkernels is that they are a bit slower due to less code operating in privilidged mode. But microkernels are more scaleable i think.
Everyone has there price i guess. For some people its a few FPS, if you have more than 72FPS then who cares.
I used to be quite happy playing svga-quake with 22FPS on a S3 video card. Should be able to get better than that these days without compromising ones values.
NVIDIA did fight the good fight against 3dfx with opengl/glide, but now the tables have turned, NVIDIA is the one keeping secrets and 3dfx (and others) are the ones opening up and trying to do the right thing.
NVIDIA have said that they cant opensource there drivers becasue they dont have rights to some of the intellectual property. Have stupid is managment at nvidia, without drivers for there hardware their product is totally useless, you would think they would at least be attempting to develop drivers that they do have control of.
We need to support companies that will stand up to NVIDIA, if there isnt competition then all consumers loose.
Remember, some of the greatest artists of all time were paid to do what they did. If they hadn't have been paid, do you think that we'd have some of the great works of art we have today, or do you think that these people would have led a short, harsh life begging on the streets? I think the answer is obvious.
I dont think the answer is obvious at all, i can see no obvious reason that an artist has only two paths available to them (street begggar, or commercial artist).
I think great art is inspired by passion, not money.
If an artist gets paid to do what they love then thats a bonus, if they have to get a regular job (street begger?) and do what they love in there own time then thats fair enough.
If an artist produces work just for the money then why do it at all.
Can you be a leader if you dont have anyone following... i think not.
Someone could say they thought of it first, but that idea had *very* little value untill many other people believed in it.
The main idea behind open source is sharing software, i dont think any person alive can claim to have invented sharing and i dont think applying the concept of sharing to software is revolutionary. Quite the opposite in fact, it was revolutionary that proprietry software evolved and people accepted for a time that sharing didnt apply to software.
People have litterally gotten away with murder because they have been abused so much over time it was reasonable to use premeditated murder as a form of defence, justifiable murder.
Similarly the record industry have victimised consumers and musicians alike for ages, seems to me that stealing from the record industry should be considered justifiable theft.
Open source is about shareing code with LOTS of people.
Trying to say ONE person or specific organisation started free/OS software shows a clear lack of understanding.
It is a callaborative effort from everyone who beleives in it.
Say i have the i386 binaries and source, if i want to install to say a PowerPC, or an old mac i would need 3 or 4 cd's of binaries for it.
If the installer could build from source, it would require only a minimum of PowerPC binaries and the rest could be built from source, not time efficient, but better than sending away and getting new binary cd's delivered, or not being able to install to a second machine.
Debian supports a fair few different architectures, so this could be handy, it would way down on the priority list for the installer though.
The trick is making the installer easy, without dumbing it down for those who can make informed decisions.
I think the key to debian becoming more popular in non technical circles is improving its installer.
I have been hanging out with the installer team for some time, and we are very much in the planning stage, so constructive feedback is very welcome. (we wernt expecting a slashdot story though)
The only testing i can image is being done on the unused scsi buses is hardware detection.
How can you test the capabilities of a scsi bus if nothing is plugged into it, they may as well leave them in their boxes on the shelf for all the testing it will do.
If it makes any difference i asked purely out of wondering, I would wonder the same thing if there were 24 ide buses and 10 dirves. But if you must know i do consider scsi to be something that only has merit in a few situations, scsi is mostly used by stupid people looking for an expensive toy.
Government should empower people, not impair them.
So many cases where governments try and take away power from citicens thinking they are doing the right thing. The problem is governments try and judge how a citicens power would be used, politicens(i just cant spell) do a grave injustice with this, surely judging people is a job for a recognised judge.
extract of ibm announcment "Since we would like to have an honest, open discussion about this, I would suggest that all interested parties post their comments to the LVM mailing list (unless someone has a better suggestion!). All comments are welcome!"
Slashdot Mirror
Common, it doesnt matter what firewall rules you impose there will be a way around it, all you need is someone co-operating on both sides of a firewall and you can tunnel through it.
I thought EVERYONE knew filters dont work.
Any efforts to treat the net like a tradional mass media will fail.
Stupid neo-ludite marketing goofs
Isnt it ironic that Nvidia beat 3dfx by using opengl instead of 3dfx's proprietry glide.
Now 3dfx realised their error opened up and becasme a friend of open source.
Nvidia have forgoten all about openness and dominating the market by any means necessary.
Nvidia became open when it suited them and have long since shut the door.
There is no way this is good for the open source community.
So it looks like NVIDIA is going to be an evil dictator in the same mould as microsoft or intel.
Is there any hope that this will get blocked by the FTC or whoever it is over that that stops monopolies.
If you think this is in any way shape or form good for consumers you are a poor deluded fool !
Its difficult for any multi-architecture distribution to use a Linux kernel monte as introduces an basic inconsistancy between how the system behaves on different architectures.
Good idea though, which it was arch independent.
http://it.fairfax.com.au/communications/20001114/A 41389-2000Nov10.html
"A 155 megabit circuit between Sydney and California, licensed for 15 years, which cost $US10.3 million, was discounted by 18 per cent if purchased before the November sales deadline."
It cost about 20c/MB retail for bandwidth in aus. This works out to a markup of 1400 times (see 1) between long term and short term prices.
I hope this link does bring down retail prices.
1) $ 10300000 / (15years * 155megabit * 52weeks * 7days * 24hours * 60minutes * 60 seconds) = 0.014 cents / megabit
I think i worked it out correctly
This simply means that there will more competition between 3dfx card vendors, which will result in a lower priced 3dfx which will be able to compete better agianst the evil^H^H^H^H heavily proprietry Nvidia.
Im sure this will lead to 3dfx becoming a stronger company.
Hurd daemons are run in user space.
Kernel modules are run in kernel space.
This make kernel modules faster than Hurd Daemons.
What are the good points ?
When/how did microsoft show that microkernels dont work ?
Have you ever heard of QNX, its a microkernel, it works.
I read that the drawbacks to microkernels is that they are a bit slower due to less code operating in privilidged mode. But microkernels are more scaleable i think.
(i am not an expert)
Everyone has there price i guess. For some people its a few FPS, if you have more than 72FPS then who cares.
I used to be quite happy playing svga-quake with 22FPS on a S3 video card. Should be able to get better than that these days without compromising ones values.
NVIDIA did fight the good fight against 3dfx with opengl/glide, but now the tables have turned, NVIDIA is the one keeping secrets and 3dfx (and others) are the ones opening up and trying to do the right thing.
NVIDIA have said that they cant opensource there drivers becasue they dont have rights to some of the intellectual property. Have stupid is managment at nvidia, without drivers for there hardware their product is totally useless, you would think they would at least be attempting to develop drivers that they do have control of.
We need to support companies that will stand up to NVIDIA, if there isnt competition then all consumers loose.
Glenn
NVIDIA dont want to support open source drivers, so i honestly dont see why any open source supporter would use any of there cards.
In my eyes NVIDIA just isnt an option, but the Radeon looks cheap and fast, and ATI supports the principle of open source software.
Even though ATI arent developing open source drivers themselves, they look to be assisting open source efforts.
Better than NVIDIA binary only driver that contains legal threats to Prosecute anyone who tries to reverse engineer an open source NVIDIA driver.
NVIDIA ranks in the same class as microsoft in my book.
Remember, some of the greatest artists of all time were paid to do what they did. If they hadn't have been paid, do you think that we'd have some of the great works of art we have today, or do you think that these people would have led a short, harsh life begging on the streets? I think the answer is obvious.
I dont think the answer is obvious at all, i can see no obvious reason that an artist has only two paths available to them (street begggar, or commercial artist).
I think great art is inspired by passion, not money.
If an artist gets paid to do what they love then thats a bonus, if they have to get a regular job (street begger?) and do what they love in there own time then thats fair enough.
If an artist produces work just for the money then why do it at all.
Can you be a leader if you dont have anyone following... i think not.
Someone could say they thought of it first, but that idea had *very* little value untill many other people believed in it.
The main idea behind open source is sharing software, i dont think any person alive can claim to have invented sharing and i dont think applying the concept of sharing to software is revolutionary. Quite the opposite in fact, it was revolutionary that proprietry software evolved and people accepted for a time that sharing didnt apply to software.
People have litterally gotten away with murder because they have been abused so much over time it was reasonable to use premeditated murder as a form of defence, justifiable murder.
Similarly the record industry have victimised consumers and musicians alike for ages, seems to me that stealing from the record industry should be considered justifiable theft.
Open source is about shareing code with LOTS of people. Trying to say ONE person or specific organisation started free/OS software shows a clear lack of understanding. It is a callaborative effort from everyone who beleives in it.
Source is good to support multiple architectures.
Say i have the i386 binaries and source, if i want to install to say a PowerPC, or an old mac i would need 3 or 4 cd's of binaries for it.
If the installer could build from source, it would require only a minimum of PowerPC binaries and the rest could be built from source, not time efficient, but better than sending away and getting new binary cd's delivered, or not being able to install to a second machine.
Debian supports a fair few different architectures, so this could be handy, it would way down on the priority list for the installer though.
Do you think your mum could install debian ?
The trick is making the installer easy, without dumbing it down for those who can make informed decisions.
I think the key to debian becoming more popular in non technical circles is improving its installer.
I have been hanging out with the installer team for some time, and we are very much in the planning stage, so constructive feedback is very welcome. (we wernt expecting a slashdot story though)
Its an attitude/opinion on how things should be that binds us together, not an individual product.
Making a martyr of one of will only strengthen our resolve (e.g. DeCSS)
You can cage a bird, you cannot cage a song.
You can use lintian to check all the package are installed correctly, and isolate "foreign" files that dont belong to an installed package..
Anyone can create a deb package, it doesnt have to be a part of debian.
Commercial organisations could create debs of there software if they chose.
The only testing i can image is being done on the unused scsi buses is hardware detection.
How can you test the capabilities of a scsi bus if nothing is plugged into it, they may as well leave them in their boxes on the shelf for all the testing it will do.
If it makes any difference i asked purely out of wondering, I would wonder the same thing if there were 24 ide buses and 10 dirves. But if you must know i do consider scsi to be something that only has merit in a few situations, scsi is mostly used by stupid people looking for an expensive toy.
There isnt anything special about 10 drives, so why have 24 scsi buses?
I cant see why you would need moe than 3 scsi buses to run 10 drives, that leaves 21 free.
It would be nice to see how fast they could get a software raid0 array going.
I have a saying
Government should empower people, not impair them.
So many cases where governments try and take away power from citicens thinking they are doing the right thing.
The problem is governments try and judge how a citicens power would be used, politicens(i just cant spell) do a grave injustice with this, surely judging people is a job for a recognised judge.
Whats the point in having a great forum like slashdot if the articles are so thorough and leave nothing for our imagination.
What are we going to argue about now ?
Id say ibm is aproaching the situation the right way, i think ibm really seems to underestand the open source community, coool.
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http://linux.msede.com/lvm/mlist/archive/2000/0
extract of ibm announcment
"Since we would like to have an honest, open discussion about this, I would
suggest that all interested parties post their comments to the LVM mailing
list (unless someone has a better suggestion!). All comments are welcome!"