Your argument doesn't make sense to me. Why would having Flash running on iPhone be a threat to Apple's profits? It's not like those Flash apps/games can replace App Store apps -- Flash apps would always be less than a native app.
You're missing the bigger picture: developers who write those simple games in Objective C rather than Flash are writing an app targeted to a single platform - iOS. It's about locking developers - and their applications - to a single OS, not something that can be used and run on a wide variety of platforms.
Apple is betting that developers will be developers - they'll work really hard at creating an application (in the blessed language as chosen by Jobs and company), and once it's out and released and starting to make money, they'll lose interest in it and move to the next thing, never porting it to other platforms. And thereby "locking" that app to iOS devices only.
Flash - or other interpreted code languages - break that lock, greatly expanding the number of platforms an application can support.
Having licensed a few of my own patents to big companies, it's very likely he's been in negotiations for 3-4 years and they finally broke down. It's not at all uncommon to take 2-3 years to negotiate a license agreement, and that usually only starts after the patent is actually issued AND the potential licensee has had 6-12 months to read and fully comprehend the issued patent.
Shanghai's a heck of a fun town - come on over!:) Although I've seen something on eBay that looks identical to what I bought, albeit for twice the price...
Unlikely if a no-name Chinese manufacturer sells direct for $200 a pop with similar hardware: W1060G [aliexpress.com]
I wonder if those Chinese tablets are any good. Have you tried one?
I don't think the fact that this Chinese outfit is already selling such a thing makes it less likely that Samsung or some other major manufacturer would do it, I'd think it makes it more likely. I'd think most people would rather buy a Samsung.
I've got a similar no-name Chinese tablet, picked it up last month in Shanghai. 800x480 7" screen, Android 2.1, 2 GB built in, MicroSD card slot, a REAL (type A) USB connector, a second USB connector, HDMI output, nice little machine. Get about 6-7 hours on a battery charge, reading books and listening to music (headphones). About half the weight of an iPad, and JUST small enough to fit in the cargo pockets of my shorts and pants. WiFi only, but hey - I've got an HTC Touch Pro2 that runs WMWiFiRouter via 3G for me, so I have WiFi wherever I go. Not much of a loss at all!
It doesn't have a GPS built in, and the accelerometer is rather slow and grainy (small changes aren't picked up), but for what I use it for - books, music, browsing the web, watching a movie, an occasional game - it was a great purchase for $100... The fact it shares memory card formats with my phone and camera and laptop (camera and laptop via a MicroSD to SDHC adapter) is icing on the cake. Hot-swappable 16 GB at a chunk is VERY nice!
While new smartphones may be better than the iPhone, I note that the iPhone still sells more and has more deployed than any other smartphone.
Not EVEN close. Nokia and RIM have always sold more smartphones than Apple, and in terms of cell phones, Apple is about number 6 (behind Nokia, RIM, Samsung, Motorola, and I think Sony).
And now, not just Symbian and Blackberry OS outsell iOS, but Android tops iOS as well; Apple's now in 4th place of OS phone deployments and falling steadily.
Apple has sold about 50 million iPhones TOTAL over the last 3.5 years. Nokia sells that many phones in 2 weeks.
They aren't dominant in any area outside of the consumer arena.
Is Apple dominant in the consumer arena? Really? They're a bit player in most markets, but due to the vociferous and aggressive nature of their fans, they get an inordinate amount of press.
I hate testing too! So I devised a little game with a compatriot in code: we unit-test each other's code. Each class is unit tested by the other person, and whoever finds the most bugs wins. What do you win? Usually pizza and beer. Free lunch or dinner can be a strong motivational reason, plus the chance to brag about trouncing the other person. Makes you a MUCH better "defensive" coder, always thinking about how/which parameters to validate, return codes, etc.
I know you're a resident Apple Fanatic, but if I have root access, I can change any bootloader/access file I like. The ONLY way to eliminate my root malware is to completely wipe and re-install, as I stated. If my malware is left in there at root, I will guarantee that I can stop you from loading over my files - I'm root, I can do whatever I want.
Which is true of any system that has been exploited. The difference is the iPhone can be updated to remove the issue more easily.
No, that's not true. Many - most - exploits do not grant root access. It's one thing to open up user space, it's another to grant root access. This is about the worst level of hole you can have.
Also interesting to note that we're on to 8 days and Apple still has not released a fix...
Precisely. When you're root, you can pretty much do as you please. There's nothing to say that pwned phones won't still be compromised, short of doing a complete wipe and re-install, and that simply won't be suggested by Apple since it seriously highlights the nature of this security breach.
So basically, you'll only be 100% compromised and have every single shred of data exposed to whomever wanted it until you get around to installing the next update. Good to know!
It's rare enough that exploitable bugs in both systems will be hard to come by, and if malware writers are not exploiting the current bug in Safari why would they do so with the much smaller attack space of any one application?
That's a mighty big "if" in there... There's no way to know, since root access also means you can completely cover your tracks, leaving no trace that you were even there.
This cannot be! Apple is about supplying the best customer experience, about rolling out magical devices to the masses to free them from the bondage and slavery of technology as imposed by those proprietary, secretive for-profit companies!
If you include the cost of our presence in Iraq, the oil subsidy dwarfs imagination.
You are aware that the US gets most of its oil domestically, from Canada, and Mexico? Most of the Middle East oil ends up in Europe and Asia, not the US. The US gets about 15% of all its petroleum from the Middle East, and about 4% from Iraq.
And in Iraq, the biggest share (about 80%, IIRC) of drilling rights issued to foreign companies went to non-US companies... If we're there for oil, it's for oil for other countries, not the US.
Subsidy dollars per GWh are the relevant units. According to the EIA, and browsing through dsireusa.org, we find that "renewables" currently get the greatest subsidies by far.
Mod parent up. This is like saying your next door neighbor give $20 per week total allowances to their children, compared to $5 per week you give your kids. Never mind they have 16 children sharing that $20...
Wind and solar get about 100 TIMES the per-GWh subsidy of oil and coal.
Others have also mentioned the taxes; ExxonMobil (that evil Big Oil company) pays about $3 in taxes/Government fees for every $1 in net profit the company makes. Governments make the lion's share of the money from Exxon pumping, refining, and distributing oil, not the owners of ExxonMobil. In 2008 ExxonMobil paid close to $120 billion in taxes/fees - nearly 10 TIMES the subsidies to "green" energy. Just from ONE of the big energy producers in the US. If the US Government is "not giving enough" subsidies to "green" energy, it's not at the request or benefit of Big Oil and other producers of energy...
Heck no! People follow the rules of the road in Taiwan and Hong Kong. They don't just ignore the rest of the world and go where they heck they want to go, screw everyone else on the road style, like REAL Chinese do...
PureVPN - $4 per month, fast VPN access, and it's seamless in Win7. I'm using it right now from Shanghai. Great way to watch Hulu and Netflix when abroad...
If you think about it, China is a very big market for porn. Considering there is no competition
Come to Shanghai, if you think that's the case. After buying a few hundred porn DVDs, I'll show you so many barbershops and saunas and BJ bars you'll die from dehydration from shooting so many loads...
China's missing a lot of things from the Western world, but cheap, available porn and sex are NOT two of those things.
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Your argument doesn't make sense to me. Why would having Flash running on iPhone be a threat to Apple's profits? It's not like those Flash apps/games can replace App Store apps -- Flash apps would always be less than a native app.
You're missing the bigger picture: developers who write those simple games in Objective C rather than Flash are writing an app targeted to a single platform - iOS. It's about locking developers - and their applications - to a single OS, not something that can be used and run on a wide variety of platforms.
Apple is betting that developers will be developers - they'll work really hard at creating an application (in the blessed language as chosen by Jobs and company), and once it's out and released and starting to make money, they'll lose interest in it and move to the next thing, never porting it to other platforms. And thereby "locking" that app to iOS devices only.
Flash - or other interpreted code languages - break that lock, greatly expanding the number of platforms an application can support.
Having licensed a few of my own patents to big companies, it's very likely he's been in negotiations for 3-4 years and they finally broke down. It's not at all uncommon to take 2-3 years to negotiate a license agreement, and that usually only starts after the patent is actually issued AND the potential licensee has had 6-12 months to read and fully comprehend the issued patent.
Which is why we never move out of mom's basement - machine and person who knows how to run it, right at hand!
Shanghai's a heck of a fun town - come on over! :) Although I've seen something on eBay that looks identical to what I bought, albeit for twice the price...
I wonder if those Chinese tablets are any good. Have you tried one?
I don't think the fact that this Chinese outfit is already selling such a thing makes it less likely that Samsung or some other major manufacturer would do it, I'd think it makes it more likely. I'd think most people would rather buy a Samsung.
I've got a similar no-name Chinese tablet, picked it up last month in Shanghai. 800x480 7" screen, Android 2.1, 2 GB built in, MicroSD card slot, a REAL (type A) USB connector, a second USB connector, HDMI output, nice little machine. Get about 6-7 hours on a battery charge, reading books and listening to music (headphones). About half the weight of an iPad, and JUST small enough to fit in the cargo pockets of my shorts and pants. WiFi only, but hey - I've got an HTC Touch Pro2 that runs WMWiFiRouter via 3G for me, so I have WiFi wherever I go. Not much of a loss at all!
It doesn't have a GPS built in, and the accelerometer is rather slow and grainy (small changes aren't picked up), but for what I use it for - books, music, browsing the web, watching a movie, an occasional game - it was a great purchase for $100... The fact it shares memory card formats with my phone and camera and laptop (camera and laptop via a MicroSD to SDHC adapter) is icing on the cake. Hot-swappable 16 GB at a chunk is VERY nice!
While new smartphones may be better than the iPhone, I note that the iPhone still sells more and has more deployed than any other smartphone.
Not EVEN close. Nokia and RIM have always sold more smartphones than Apple, and in terms of cell phones, Apple is about number 6 (behind Nokia, RIM, Samsung, Motorola, and I think Sony).
And now, not just Symbian and Blackberry OS outsell iOS, but Android tops iOS as well; Apple's now in 4th place of OS phone deployments and falling steadily.
Apple has sold about 50 million iPhones TOTAL over the last 3.5 years. Nokia sells that many phones in 2 weeks.
Apple is a consumer products company.
They aren't dominant in any area outside of the consumer arena.
Is Apple dominant in the consumer arena? Really? They're a bit player in most markets, but due to the vociferous and aggressive nature of their fans, they get an inordinate amount of press.
I hate testing too! So I devised a little game with a compatriot in code: we unit-test each other's code. Each class is unit tested by the other person, and whoever finds the most bugs wins. What do you win? Usually pizza and beer. Free lunch or dinner can be a strong motivational reason, plus the chance to brag about trouncing the other person. Makes you a MUCH better "defensive" coder, always thinking about how/which parameters to validate, return codes, etc.
I know you're a resident Apple Fanatic, but if I have root access, I can change any bootloader/access file I like. The ONLY way to eliminate my root malware is to completely wipe and re-install, as I stated. If my malware is left in there at root, I will guarantee that I can stop you from loading over my files - I'm root, I can do whatever I want.
Which is true of any system that has been exploited. The difference is the iPhone can be updated to remove the issue more easily.
No, that's not true. Many - most - exploits do not grant root access. It's one thing to open up user space, it's another to grant root access. This is about the worst level of hole you can have.
Also interesting to note that we're on to 8 days and Apple still has not released a fix...
Precisely. When you're root, you can pretty much do as you please. There's nothing to say that pwned phones won't still be compromised, short of doing a complete wipe and re-install, and that simply won't be suggested by Apple since it seriously highlights the nature of this security breach.
So basically, you'll only be 100% compromised and have every single shred of data exposed to whomever wanted it until you get around to installing the next update. Good to know!
It's rare enough that exploitable bugs in both systems will be hard to come by, and if malware writers are not exploiting the current bug in Safari why would they do so with the much smaller attack space of any one application?
That's a mighty big "if" in there... There's no way to know, since root access also means you can completely cover your tracks, leaving no trace that you were even there.
This cannot be! Apple is about supplying the best customer experience, about rolling out magical devices to the masses to free them from the bondage and slavery of technology as imposed by those proprietary, secretive for-profit companies!
Thanks for the warning! I'm saving my remaining eye to check out the new green laser my neighbor bought...
retards abundant? yes, apparently there are. Retards like you... I don't care weather it was a stupid thing to do
Not to mention those retards who cannot write. Like whether to use 'whether' or 'weather'...
If you include the cost of our presence in Iraq, the oil subsidy dwarfs imagination.
You are aware that the US gets most of its oil domestically, from Canada, and Mexico? Most of the Middle East oil ends up in Europe and Asia, not the US. The US gets about 15% of all its petroleum from the Middle East, and about 4% from Iraq.
And in Iraq, the biggest share (about 80%, IIRC) of drilling rights issued to foreign companies went to non-US companies... If we're there for oil, it's for oil for other countries, not the US.
Subsidy dollars per GWh are the relevant units. According to the EIA, and browsing through dsireusa.org, we find that "renewables" currently get the greatest subsidies by far.
Mod parent up. This is like saying your next door neighbor give $20 per week total allowances to their children, compared to $5 per week you give your kids. Never mind they have 16 children sharing that $20...
Wind and solar get about 100 TIMES the per-GWh subsidy of oil and coal.
Others have also mentioned the taxes; ExxonMobil (that evil Big Oil company) pays about $3 in taxes/Government fees for every $1 in net profit the company makes. Governments make the lion's share of the money from Exxon pumping, refining, and distributing oil, not the owners of ExxonMobil. In 2008 ExxonMobil paid close to $120 billion in taxes/fees - nearly 10 TIMES the subsidies to "green" energy. Just from ONE of the big energy producers in the US. If the US Government is "not giving enough" subsidies to "green" energy, it's not at the request or benefit of Big Oil and other producers of energy...
How long until people will start yelling "abracadabra" at their iPads when they want to get a Flash-based website to properly work?
Such a dumb post... Any geek worth their salt would know that abracadabra is not on the approved list of magical incantations.
Dweeb.
I wonder if - like the magical antenna on the iPhone 4 - this also stops working when you touch it?
So you can use the second to make calls when your first has antenna problems...
Heck no! People follow the rules of the road in Taiwan and Hong Kong. They don't just ignore the rest of the world and go where they heck they want to go, screw everyone else on the road style, like REAL Chinese do...
PureVPN - $4 per month, fast VPN access, and it's seamless in Win7. I'm using it right now from Shanghai. Great way to watch Hulu and Netflix when abroad...
If you think about it, China ... the shear size of the population
You 're right. I'd never thought about that.
Shearing the population of China is a huge task.
Slashdot makes you think, doesn't it?
Actually it's pretty simple. Most Chinese have very little body hair, and no one but older men can grow a beard worth a darn.
Now, shearing Kazakhstan, that's another matter altogether...
If you think about it, China is a very big market for porn. Considering there is no competition
Come to Shanghai, if you think that's the case. After buying a few hundred porn DVDs, I'll show you so many barbershops and saunas and BJ bars you'll die from dehydration from shooting so many loads...
China's missing a lot of things from the Western world, but cheap, available porn and sex are NOT two of those things.