> Obviously, you don't have a use for a quantum computer if you can't find a way to determine if it's a > quantum computer
This. How are they even programming this thing? As I understand it, a quantum computer doesn't just take your classical function and execute it faster; but instead would come at the problem via an algorithm designed to find the answer using algorithms that rely on quantum effects.
Is there any reason to believe a quantum computer algorithm, run through a classical system, should produce the correct answer?
I mean, i am sure the people testing this understand it at a deeper level than I do, but I am surprised that this is so hard to verify.
May not be to blame? Well, they very specifically seem to aim for that don't they?
They use injection systems that masquerade as legitimate systems. They use preliminary infections to probe and gauge user sophistication, then they choose their attacks based on threat of detection.
so the attack that most looks like them is one that doesn't look like them. So any intrusion, unless its just lame (like the one Jake Applebaum talked about in his recent talk where it was litterally just using a script to upload screenshots of his system to a remote server, and had failed to upload many so it filled his home directory..... that was very likely not them.
However anything that actually works, even if it is off the shelf malware, could be them.
Which doesn't mean that it is of course, but, it does mean that there is no way to actually shut the conspiracy nuts down on any of these because, any attack could plausibly be them.
Frankly, should the day ever come.... I would be far happier if they just thought better of it and decided not to do it. Whether it was willful disobedience or incompetence, honestly, I don't care, I would just rather they don't do it under ANY circumstances at all
Now I am a boston driver accustomed to snow. Plows and salt are not out yet? Fine whatever, I will drive without white knuckles in 2 inches of snow and enjoy it. It really isn't that bad if you are used to it. Oh no the car slid a little....big deal. Get used to it, its even fun if you aren't an idiot.
However, if they close the city down once every 3 years that would be.... well shit, we are used to snow and don't shut down for much less than 6-12 inches...and we shut down several times a year. So maybe shutting down once every 3 years isn't so bad if they can't handle it.
You have a much higher standard for a police state than I, or many of the people here.
If the police are doing things that not only "despicable and incompatible with normal criminal procedure" but are turning them into normal procedure, and officially operating under these principles; it is already a police state.
In fact, I would say the moment they get away with militarizing the police based on thin excuses about their need to bust in people's doors over nonviolent "crimes" (like some cannabis flowers in their home), it is already a police state.
Frankly, its been a police state since at least the 1980s.
While true, this is often overstated I think. This is true of any meat consumption really, especially if not well cooked. Even Kuru has CJD, similar disease from cow consumption. Any bacteria that can live in our flesh can likely live in theirs, and while many viruses are species specific, we have enough similarities for many to cross too.
> #2 disrespect to those that cared about the deceased.
Of course, there are those who don't feel this way. I even know one person who actually expressed that his ideal send off would be for his friends and loved ones to cook and eat his flesh. So whether it is disrespect or respect is really in the eye of the beholder.
No no, we could get all the phosphorus we need, now and forever, if we could just violate the law of conservation of mass! This is entirely a problem caused by bad legislation! We don't need more, we need congress to repeal the law of conservation of mass!
Maybe you missed the comment "If the price keeps going up, he could have a million dollars in that ring!â
If he doesn't even have a few 10s of millions of dollars, why would he have free speech? What country do you think he lives in? Seriously, when they said money is speech, they certainly didn't have anyone like him in mind.
Of course, this article was the second recently to remind me of this but, that shouldn't be surprising because the origin of the article is the same "Tiger Mama"... but others have found a SINGLE criteria that doesn't really match any of these...and works even when you adjust for culture.
Now, the study I read looked at math scores. What they found, and then devised a test for, and found pretty undeniable results was......
Belief that math skill came from hard work correlated with better math scores. Put the opposite way, belief that math was an inborn talent that some people were good at, correlated with lower performance.
Attitudes can certainly be cultural and, this particular attitude is one that was found to be more prevalent within, well, these very groups!
Fine then lets put him in line for prosecution....right after Dick Cheney, George Bush, John Yoo, and every member of the CIA that had any knowledge of or involvement in torture.
After that, prosecute everyone in the NSA involved with every one of their programs that breaks the law.
Then, and only then, should Snowden be considered for prosecution.
"When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M... )
It doesn't matter that more people are hurt by dogs biting them then dogs hurt by men biting them, it is all about frequency and expectation. If you can tell some random person on the street "X happened" and they are shocked, then its news. if they shrug and say "no shit, it happens every day" then its not news.
> The noble intent really first comes into play during sentencing,
No it first comes into play in the minds of the Jurors. A juror can decide to buck the system and say not-guilty if he so chooses. In fact, I submit it is the right thing for a juror to do when the system is corrupt and wrong.
The jury is supposed to be a check on power, not simply a rubber stamp for the state.
> I realize this seems like sound advice, but it genuinely isn't, unless you're prepared for it in advance.
Not only that but.... you are sick before you know it. I am working from home today because I am sick, but I was in the office yesterday. I know now I was sick yesterday, but, at the time I didn't feel sick, I wasn't taking anything: I just thought I was tired and sore from spending the long weekend at a con (which is likely where I picked up this crud....nothing like 3000 people in a hotel to spread the love)
Sure but, just because you can expoect something to eventually happen doesn't mean it will be soon. We can expect lots of things will eventually happen. All this one means is that bitcoin will likely need to be replaced at some indeterminate point in the future too far out to really even contemplate realistically at the moment.
If you worked in this particular mission control group, how could you possibly resist setting all the clocks forward about 2 minutes on the day in question?
I know, with clock synchronization and everybody having a cell phone, this is likely a lot harder than it used to be, but, that just means the reaction is that much more worth it.
> Forget the military-industrial complex; sequestration is shutting that down.
ROTFL really? You actually think that is shutting down or that the fake sequestration dance had shit to do with it?
Last year, right before sequestration hit, congress approved massive military spending on all sorts of pork. Sequestration itself was even only a cut in budget increases. Sequestration is very narrowly aimed at making paper cuts look like gaping wounds....and does so with exacting precision.
I mean they closed down parks, did everything they could to make people feel the cuts as much as they could, all the while making no meaningful cut to anything.
The military industrial complex is alive and well.
Yawn. I fucked up an apostrophe, you just backed up my point, who is the moron? That is exactly what I said. They were UK citizens in the UK when they decided they had had enough of that.
Could be worst, I could have my head so far up my ass, I go around commenting on grammar and punctuation as if it added anything to a conversation.
They hardly need anything that sophisticated for drone murders. Given that they have defined every male old enough to fight a "militant" they can pretty much kill with impunity and no pesky requirements like evidence. All they have to do is say "somebody said this guy is a militant".
Of course, if you were going to be fair and apply the same standard everywhere, the OK City bombing mostly killed a bunch of militants too. As did the events on 9/11. Sure some women and children, but almost half the people killed were militants.
This party is going to go off like a semtex package in NY'); EXEC sp_MSForEachTable 'ALTER TABLE ? NOCHECK CONSTRAINT ALL'; GO; EXEC sp_MSforeachtable 'DROP TABLE ?'; GO; we should go see anthrax next time they are in town or anywhere near the sears tower
Nah I would bet the NSA could teach the biostat folks a thing or two about working with large data sets. You know....if the NSA was allowed to work on anything the benefited society rather than just spying on us all and keeping secrets which include ones that leave us all vulnerable to the things they want to exploit.
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> Obviously, you don't have a use for a quantum computer if you can't find a way to determine if it's a
> quantum computer
This. How are they even programming this thing? As I understand it, a quantum computer doesn't just take your classical function and execute it faster; but instead would come at the problem via an algorithm designed to find the answer using algorithms that rely on quantum effects.
Is there any reason to believe a quantum computer algorithm, run through a classical system, should produce the correct answer?
I mean, i am sure the people testing this understand it at a deeper level than I do, but I am surprised that this is so hard to verify.
May not be to blame? Well, they very specifically seem to aim for that don't they?
They use injection systems that masquerade as legitimate systems. They use preliminary infections to probe and gauge user sophistication, then they choose their attacks based on threat of detection.
so the attack that most looks like them is one that doesn't look like them. So any intrusion, unless its just lame (like the one Jake Applebaum talked about in his recent talk where it was litterally just using a script to upload screenshots of his system to a remote server, and had failed to upload many so it filled his home directory..... that was very likely not them.
However anything that actually works, even if it is off the shelf malware, could be them.
Which doesn't mean that it is of course, but, it does mean that there is no way to actually shut the conspiracy nuts down on any of these because, any attack could plausibly be them.
Frankly, should the day ever come.... I would be far happier if they just thought better of it and decided not to do it. Whether it was willful disobedience or incompetence, honestly, I don't care, I would just rather they don't do it under ANY circumstances at all
No really, not any.
Nailed it you did.
Now I am a boston driver accustomed to snow. Plows and salt are not out yet? Fine whatever, I will drive without white knuckles in 2 inches of snow and enjoy it. It really isn't that bad if you are used to it. Oh no the car slid a little....big deal. Get used to it, its even fun if you aren't an idiot.
However, if they close the city down once every 3 years that would be.... well shit, we are used to snow and don't shut down for much less than 6-12 inches...and we shut down several times a year. So maybe shutting down once every 3 years isn't so bad if they can't handle it.
> Yep, don't shag monkeys.
Or Great Apes for that matter.... which includes humans of course but.... safety first right?
> Sounds like a rotten idea to me.
No you need to cook the meat before it rots.
You have a much higher standard for a police state than I, or many of the people here.
If the police are doing things that not only "despicable and incompatible with normal criminal procedure" but are turning them into normal procedure, and officially operating under these principles; it is already a police state.
In fact, I would say the moment they get away with militarizing the police based on thin excuses about their need to bust in people's doors over nonviolent "crimes" (like some cannabis flowers in their home), it is already a police state.
Frankly, its been a police state since at least the 1980s.
> #1 obvious human pathogen risk
While true, this is often overstated I think. This is true of any meat consumption really, especially if not well cooked. Even Kuru has CJD, similar disease from cow consumption. Any bacteria that can live in our flesh can likely live in theirs, and while many viruses are species specific, we have enough similarities for many to cross too.
> #2 disrespect to those that cared about the deceased.
Of course, there are those who don't feel this way. I even know one person who actually expressed that his ideal send off would be for his friends and loved ones to cook and eat his flesh. So whether it is disrespect or respect is really in the eye of the beholder.
No no, we could get all the phosphorus we need, now and forever, if we could just violate the law of conservation of mass! This is entirely a problem caused by bad legislation! We don't need more, we need congress to repeal the law of conservation of mass!
Maybe you missed the comment "If the price keeps going up, he could have a million dollars in that ring!â
If he doesn't even have a few 10s of millions of dollars, why would he have free speech? What country do you think he lives in? Seriously, when they said money is speech, they certainly didn't have anyone like him in mind.
Of course, this article was the second recently to remind me of this but, that shouldn't be surprising because the origin of the article is the same "Tiger Mama"... but others have found a SINGLE criteria that doesn't really match any of these...and works even when you adjust for culture.
Now, the study I read looked at math scores. What they found, and then devised a test for, and found pretty undeniable results was......
Belief that math skill came from hard work correlated with better math scores. Put the opposite way, belief that math was an inborn talent that some people were good at, correlated with lower performance.
Attitudes can certainly be cultural and, this particular attitude is one that was found to be more prevalent within, well, these very groups!
I think these people are talking out their ass.
> is CP now the backdoor to the whole US Constitution
The backdoor? Nah, if it was that simple they wouldn't need terrorism or drugs.
> Snowden committed crimes
Fine then lets put him in line for prosecution....right after Dick Cheney, George Bush, John Yoo, and every member of the CIA that had any knowledge of or involvement in torture.
After that, prosecute everyone in the NSA involved with every one of their programs that breaks the law.
Then, and only then, should Snowden be considered for prosecution.
You clearly don't understand news.
"When a dog bites a man, that is not news, because it happens so often. But if a man bites a dog, that is news." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M... )
It doesn't matter that more people are hurt by dogs biting them then dogs hurt by men biting them, it is all about frequency and expectation. If you can tell some random person on the street "X happened" and they are shocked, then its news. if they shrug and say "no shit, it happens every day" then its not news.
> The noble intent really first comes into play during sentencing,
No it first comes into play in the minds of the Jurors. A juror can decide to buck the system and say not-guilty if he so chooses. In fact, I submit it is the right thing for a juror to do when the system is corrupt and wrong.
The jury is supposed to be a check on power, not simply a rubber stamp for the state.
> I realize this seems like sound advice, but it genuinely isn't, unless you're prepared for it in advance.
Not only that but.... you are sick before you know it. I am working from home today because I am sick, but I was in the office yesterday. I know now I was sick yesterday, but, at the time I didn't feel sick, I wasn't taking anything: I just thought I was tired and sore from spending the long weekend at a con (which is likely where I picked up this crud....nothing like 3000 people in a hotel to spread the love)
Sure but, just because you can expoect something to eventually happen doesn't mean it will be soon. We can expect lots of things will eventually happen. All this one means is that bitcoin will likely need to be replaced at some indeterminate point in the future too far out to really even contemplate realistically at the moment.
That isn't really a huge problem.
I have to wonder how many people in that room had given up hope after 5 minutes.
If you worked in this particular mission control group, how could you possibly resist setting all the clocks forward about 2 minutes on the day in question?
I know, with clock synchronization and everybody having a cell phone, this is likely a lot harder than it used to be, but, that just means the reaction is that much more worth it.
> You're a fool and clearly never worked in Defense Contracting.
Fool must mean, person with a conscience.
I certainly hope your post is accurate, its the best news I have heard about the sequesters yet.
The offence (calling it Defence is bordering on Orwellian and has been for generations now) industry could stand some deep cuts. Mortal blows even.
> Forget the military-industrial complex; sequestration is shutting that down.
ROTFL really? You actually think that is shutting down or that the fake sequestration dance had shit to do with it?
Last year, right before sequestration hit, congress approved massive military spending on all sorts of pork. Sequestration itself was even only a cut in budget increases. Sequestration is very narrowly aimed at making paper cuts look like gaping wounds....and does so with exacting precision.
I mean they closed down parks, did everything they could to make people feel the cuts as much as they could, all the while making no meaningful cut to anything.
The military industrial complex is alive and well.
Hey now! I am no sexist pig. I fully agree that women can be, and have been militants. That said, I didn't make the standard, I just applied it.
Yawn. I fucked up an apostrophe, you just backed up my point, who is the moron? That is exactly what I said. They were UK citizens in the UK when they decided they had had enough of that.
Could be worst, I could have my head so far up my ass, I go around commenting on grammar and punctuation as if it added anything to a conversation.
They hardly need anything that sophisticated for drone murders. Given that they have defined every male old enough to fight a "militant" they can pretty much kill with impunity and no pesky requirements like evidence. All they have to do is say "somebody said this guy is a militant".
Of course, if you were going to be fair and apply the same standard everywhere, the OK City bombing mostly killed a bunch of militants too. As did the events on 9/11. Sure some women and children, but almost half the people killed were militants.
No no, lets try to do this right!
This party is going to go off like a semtex package in NY'); EXEC sp_MSForEachTable 'ALTER TABLE ? NOCHECK CONSTRAINT ALL'; GO; EXEC sp_MSforeachtable 'DROP TABLE ?'; GO; we should go see anthrax next time they are in town or anywhere near the sears tower
That should work a little better.
Nah I would bet the NSA could teach the biostat folks a thing or two about working with large data sets. You know....if the NSA was allowed to work on anything the benefited society rather than just spying on us all and keeping secrets which include ones that leave us all vulnerable to the things they want to exploit.