You mean like this?
RC5 Processor Comparison
Processor MHz CPU's Key Rate
PowerPC G4 1000 2 21,129,654
DEC Alpha 21264 725 8 11,536,680
AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1533 2 10,807,034
Intel Pentium 3 1333 2 7,559,280
Intel Xeon 1000 2 5,835,597
Intel Pentium 4 1800 2 4,870,420
Sun UltraSparc III 750 2 2,977,968
Sun UltraSparc II 450 2 1,458,333
I was going to mod you down to a troll, but I'd rather post a comment which illustrates how infantile your statement is.
Of course there is software that will, as you put it, "kick the shit out of a G$" but always remember that software drives the hardware, and if you buy a mac for gaming then you're and idiot. But if you want top notch performance for photoshop, commotion, maya and some rc-5 cracking, a PowerMac is where it's at, not to mention colorsync and the GUI.
What about the computer doing things that you are philosophically opposed to? Like nuclear simulations (for China?), or genetic database searching for profiling individuals?
Brute force espionage is not very smart. Any of these technologies can be bypassed by comprimising the person with the keys. After all, if I have no problem with drugging, stabbing or killing you, why would I have any problem with kidnapping your wife and/or mistress and threatening to do any of the aforementioned to them unless you go in and get what I want from the secured location?
I don't think you've ever put any effort into looking at x86 vs. Mac support costs. A simple google search yielded this link:
http://www.machelpdesk.com/dualplatformsupportco st s.hqx
which summarizes data from a Gartner group study. It's 1995, but since you decided to sound so informed...
Be careful with that. I'm quite sure the rebate only applies to new systems, and not refurbs. Look for discounts on new old stock of the previous gen systems.
Your ADC to VGA connector is available for gefen.com for $49.
From Gefen.com:
For those who purchased Apple Computers latest G4 dual 800MHZ Power Mac G4, 867MHZ Power Mac G4, or the 733MHZ Power Mac G4, now you can use the ADC connector with a VGA analog monitor.
Gefen supplies the custom cable as a "plug and play" solution to be used with the Twinview graphics card. The Gefen solution enables operation using two analog monitors side by side.
You could always sell your SuperDrive on eBay...however, I see your point. Apple used to have more options to configure their towers to allow for faster CPUs with lower config systems.
Your Dr. Bott claim is specious, the multi-hundreds you are talking about it 1.5 approximately. The price works out to $149.95.
ADC is a non-ratified version of the DVI working group specification for DVI-I. Since you need membership to see the full spec at http://www.ddwg.org/ go to http://www.dvigear.com/dviaccessories.html to see the similarities between DVI-I and ADC.
There is a way to get VGA to ADC but it costs $350. http://www.gefen.com/products/extendit/new_kvm_usb _extenders_switches/vga_to_adc/
A cheaper solution is to use the Dr. Bott Device and hook it up to the new RadeonVE/7000, which retails for $129.
Not to be too harsh, but you've prefaced your post with the idea that you want to impress your client with the style and performance.
I propose that your problem is analagous to the difference between a Corvette convertible (a duallie athlon in a Lian aluminum case) and a BMW Z8 (dual G4). Z8 owners do not have any better performance or features than Corvette owners, but they have the style and exclusivity that comes with a price tag that is double that of a Corvette. If you want to pay less, get the Corvette.
Wasn't there a huge battle about the bitness level of the Jaguar? I'm pretty sure it was a bunch of 32 bit processors with one 64 bit processor on a shared 128 bit bus, but I've been known to be wrong....
I don't think the original poster is as right as he thinks, but RISC designs can use less power because they don't have to devote any die space (ie. transistors) to translate CISC instructions into RISC-like instructions (which are common to all x86 designs currently). This means RISC ISA implementations can use fewer transistors inherently and thus consume less power.
Of course, this doesn't mean you're wrong either. RISC designs can suck up juice too.
umm...there's a CRT on top of the logic board, if you haven't noticed. If you've ever put your hand over a CRT based TV, you'll notice it gets warm too. Perhaps the heat is coming from the CRT in the iMac instead of the CPU?
I know this is offtopic, but the Gamecube is powered by a PowerPC (derivative), and is the closest thing that anyone else is making to Apple's machine. This may curb losses in the PPC desktop space and spur development on a next-generation high end desktop PPC, bringing back the heady days of three different PPCs being developed at once (603/604/620). The register's rumour-mongering aside, the Gamecube2 and Apple's G5 might have more in common than Apple would rather have us know.
That argument is specious. The increase of surface area is not mated to the cpu, so you must rely on thermal compound to bridge the gap. Thermal compound is a much less efficient conductor of heat than aluminum or copper.
If the surface area increase was so good, fanatics wouldn't lapp the mating juncture of the heatsink/cpu, and they'd all turn them upside-down and fill the fins with thermal goop for better cooling.
I doubt if this has much to do with Transmeta from Intel's standpoint. If anything, I'd suspect these optimizations are geared more towards some kind of funky x86-32 implementation under McKinley IA-64.
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You mean like this?
RC5 Processor Comparison
Processor MHz CPU's Key Rate
PowerPC G4 1000 2 21,129,654
DEC Alpha 21264 725 8 11,536,680
AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1533 2 10,807,034
Intel Pentium 3 1333 2 7,559,280
Intel Xeon 1000 2 5,835,597
Intel Pentium 4 1800 2 4,870,420
Sun UltraSparc III 750 2 2,977,968
Sun UltraSparc II 450 2 1,458,333
I was going to mod you down to a troll, but I'd rather post a comment which illustrates how infantile your statement is.
Of course there is software that will, as you put it, "kick the shit out of a G$" but always remember that software drives the hardware, and if you buy a mac for gaming then you're and idiot. But if you want top notch performance for photoshop, commotion, maya and some rc-5 cracking, a PowerMac is where it's at, not to mention colorsync and the GUI.
apparently your Other Half should have sent "FsckingBastardVille" to go to Stockholm...
What about the computer doing things that you are philosophically opposed to? Like nuclear simulations (for China?), or genetic database searching for profiling individuals?
It can be a lot more scary than you think.
hmmm...just like the government's searching on the Enron google box. Whoops Anderson just shredded the box.
Brute force espionage is not very smart. Any of these technologies can be bypassed by comprimising the person with the keys. After all, if I have no problem with drugging, stabbing or killing you, why would I have any problem with kidnapping your wife and/or mistress and threatening to do any of the aforementioned to them unless you go in and get what I want from the secured location?
One final hurdle until we all become Borg(tm)!
I don't think you've ever put any effort into looking at x86 vs. Mac support costs. A simple google search yielded this link:o st s.hqx
http://www.machelpdesk.com/dualplatformsupportc
which summarizes data from a Gartner group study. It's 1995, but since you decided to sound so informed...
Be careful with that. I'm quite sure the rebate only applies to new systems, and not refurbs. Look for discounts on new old stock of the previous gen systems.
Oh yeah, one more thing...
Your ADC to VGA connector is available for gefen.com for $49.
From Gefen.com:
For those who purchased Apple Computers latest G4 dual 800MHZ Power Mac G4, 867MHZ Power Mac G4, or the 733MHZ Power Mac G4, now you can use the ADC connector with a VGA analog monitor.
Gefen supplies the custom cable as a "plug and play" solution to be used with the Twinview graphics card. The Gefen solution enables operation using two analog monitors side by side.
You could always sell your SuperDrive on eBay...however, I see your point. Apple used to have more options to configure their towers to allow for faster CPUs with lower config systems.
b _extenders_switches/vga_to_adc/
Your Dr. Bott claim is specious, the multi-hundreds you are talking about it 1.5 approximately. The price works out to $149.95.
ADC is a non-ratified version of the DVI working group specification for DVI-I. Since you need membership to see the full spec at http://www.ddwg.org/ go to http://www.dvigear.com/dviaccessories.html to see the similarities between DVI-I and ADC.
There is a way to get VGA to ADC but it costs $350. http://www.gefen.com/products/extendit/new_kvm_us
A cheaper solution is to use the Dr. Bott Device and hook it up to the new RadeonVE/7000, which retails for $129.
Not to be too harsh, but you've prefaced your post with the idea that you want to impress your client with the style and performance.
I propose that your problem is analagous to the difference between a Corvette convertible (a duallie athlon in a Lian aluminum case) and a BMW Z8 (dual G4). Z8 owners do not have any better performance or features than Corvette owners, but they have the style and exclusivity that comes with a price tag that is double that of a Corvette. If you want to pay less, get the Corvette.
ummm...of course it's a little squished! It's made from plasticine!
Wasn't that exactly like one of the games described in Orson Scott Card's the Worthington Saga?
Don't forget about clockless computing...
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too lazy to parse html:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/14/185
Wasn't there a huge battle about the bitness level of the Jaguar? I'm pretty sure it was a bunch of 32 bit processors with one 64 bit processor on a shared 128 bit bus, but I've been known to be wrong....
I don't think the original poster is as right as he thinks, but RISC designs can use less power because they don't have to devote any die space (ie. transistors) to translate CISC instructions into RISC-like instructions (which are common to all x86 designs currently). This means RISC ISA implementations can use fewer transistors inherently and thus consume less power.
Of course, this doesn't mean you're wrong either. RISC designs can suck up juice too.
umm...there's a CRT on top of the logic board, if you haven't noticed. If you've ever put your hand over a CRT based TV, you'll notice it gets warm too. Perhaps the heat is coming from the CRT in the iMac instead of the CPU?
How did so many people return these things without a receipt?
How is this insightful? If anyone who posted or moderated bothered reading the article, they can see it in plain english:
"The success in obtaining the DNA from the tooth and bone means that scientists now have genetic material from three different Tasmanian tigers. "
Don't mean to be too harsh, but read the article before posting. Of course, 3 individuals is still too small for a viable population...
I know this is offtopic, but the Gamecube is powered by a PowerPC (derivative), and is the closest thing that anyone else is making to Apple's machine. This may curb losses in the PPC desktop space and spur development on a next-generation high end desktop PPC, bringing back the heady days of three different PPCs being developed at once (603/604/620). The register's rumour-mongering aside, the Gamecube2 and Apple's G5 might have more in common than Apple would rather have us know.
Yeah, just like Linux and BSD...um, never mind.
Since the Blue and White PowerMacintosh G3 was introduced, 66MHz-32bit PCI has existed on their desktop machines, and 33MHz-64bit PCI as well.
That argument is specious. The increase of surface area is not mated to the cpu, so you must rely on thermal compound to bridge the gap. Thermal compound is a much less efficient conductor of heat than aluminum or copper.
If the surface area increase was so good, fanatics wouldn't lapp the mating juncture of the heatsink/cpu, and they'd all turn them upside-down and fill the fins with thermal goop for better cooling.
I doubt if this has much to do with Transmeta from Intel's standpoint. If anything, I'd suspect these optimizations are geared more towards some kind of funky x86-32 implementation under McKinley IA-64.
umm...just a strange question...how do you know this?
Who knows?
Perhaps you have to be close to your dying copy in order to inherit the energy, in a Highlander rip-off sense.