According to the Restatement of Torts second, which is followed in many jurisidictions, there are five conditions that must be met in order for a land owner to be liable for tort damages to a child trespasser. The five conditions are:
1. The place where the condition exists is one upon which the possessor knows or has reason to know that children are likely to trespass, and
2. The condition is one of which the possessor knows or has reason to know and which he realizes or should realize will involve an unreasonable risk of death or serious bodily harm to such children,
3. The children because of their youth do not discover the condition or realize the risk involved in intermeddling with it or in coming within the area made dangerous by it
4. The utility to the possessor of maintaining the condition and the burden of eliminating the danger are slight as compared with the risk to children involved, and
5. The possessor fails to exercise reasonable care to eliminate the danger or otherwise to protect the children
They weren't children, it wasn't mortal danger or bodily harm, the teenagers should have known the risk, and anything he could do to stop them would have involved a lot of effort. Attractive Nusicance doesn't even begin to apply to this case. It is for a child that might unwittingly hurt himself.
What he did wasn't nice, but it wasn't wrong, and only maybe, barely immoral. I would argue it was a very fitting punishement.
Go me for reading a subtext in the article that wasn't even there... *cough* *shifty eyes* What I REALLY meant was...
Isn't it funny that Google's paying one news agency for full news articles, whilst several other newspapers have tried to sue google for linking to their stuff with tiny excerpts. Who do you think is getting the short end of the stick here?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of any suit from AP... A*F*P is suing google... Which means google is paying another news agency for special features, not just regular news.
I'm going to try really hard to keep this short. This is the wrong place for this topic and I don't want this to turn into a flame war.
Yes, you're right, those are both beliefs, and the result is the same. That's NOT the issue. Evolution has nothing to do with God. The grandparent poster was asking why people don't just believe in both God and evolution. Many people do, they're not mutually exclusive.
The real issue is that a small group of people are pushing their beliefs into a science class where it doesn't belong, and fucking up the education of other people's children.
When you say "Meh, it doesn't matter" you're just confusing the issue and letting them get away with their destructive behavior. Evolution is not 'just a theory', it is not just a belief, and ID has no place in a science classroom.
Please don't confuse some people's belief that evolution might be a tool of God (perfectly valid belief), with the science of evolution, which is practical knowledge and does not depend on anyone's beliefs.
I may be out of my depth here, but from what I understand, for the most part the religious right doesn't give a flip. Intelligent design is a concept being pushed by a very very small group of extreme screwballs whose belief systems are so hard-set and stupid that evolution (and, in fact, common sense) contradicts them. They don't like it when teachers teach their kids things (like logic and thinking for yourself) that make the kids question the beliefs being thrust upon them by their parents. Thus, they covertly try to muscle in this thinly veiled creationism* into classrooms and foist it on everyone ELSE'S kids.
In general, the stupid misunderstand and defend the issue and the persecuted religious (which happen to be the majority, but nevermind) don't want to exclude any group of fervent believers. Then the politicians don't want to look like they hate religion of ANY sort, so they act non-committal. So this entire mind fuck actually gets discussed when it should just be kicked in the groin and left to die.
What I'm trying to say is - most people do have reasonable beliefs - IDers/creationists are a small group that are being moderately indulged by those who think it's bad form to say "No, your beliefs are simply wrong, you're an idiot."
*: The official ID group claims that their 'science' was misunderstood by the people who brought up the issue, and thus the penn. judge who slapped down the school board wasn't actually a rigorous investigation into their fradulent crap. Curious about this, I read everything I could find from them on the matter, and tried to read it with an open mind. From what I could find, it's creationism couched in wishy-washy terminology meant to make people who don't firmly disblieve in god smile and nod and not think too critically about it (I think the fact that a statement of beliefs is so hard to find on their site is a tacit admission of this). The judge was spot on about the whole organization.
I'm not denying there's a conspiracy, but this specifically has been answered before - at the times at which roland submits stories, very few other people are also submitting. I think it was zonk that usually used posted them, which happened because he was the only/. staff working at that time./. does little editing, which everyone knows, so they don't hunt down the orignal source, they just take what they get. Roland just happens to gank some interesting stuff and probably submits en masse.
The question is, why didn't YOU submit this story first?:) Slashdot doesn't really have much to gain by squelching people who provide good stories, regardless of how much they're gaming the system for their own profit. Roland just happens to be a poor info source, but no one gave a better one or he wouldn't get posted so much.
There's certainly room for improvement, but Cmdr Taco himself pointed out that there's no good reason to assume a conspiracy in this case, just blind chance. (Roland wasn't even in the top 10 of people who got their stories submitted at the time, but everyone noticed because he's one of the more annoying. And some people scream about it, which gets more attention.)
Also, fire fighters generally (I'm guessing) want high pressure and a tight spray so they can hit the base of the fire from a long (safe) distance. This robot could use the water for cooling and stick its nose straight into the fire, and spray from multiple directions at once to cancel most any kick.
Actually, it's going to have to continously spray water just to move, since having a water return line would be a little silly. I'm really curious if the motors are attached in series or parallel - i.e. does each joint spray a little every movement, or does the nose constantly spray to some degree? Too bad there aren't any pictures I can find.
Because no one's forcing schools to teach telepathy to children, in preference to researched scientific information.
I wouldn't mind at all if the government spent a little money scientifically testing Intelligent Design. I'm pretty sure I can guess the outcome, but I'd love to hear an ID believer come up with a testable hypothesis. That's pretty much the one thing they can't do. At least telepathy can produce negative (or positive, but I'd be surprised) results.
You can't just test the things you don't know. If you don't test the things you think are obvious, you might never learn if you're wrong.
Well, Wii-connect24 (leave your console on, and net-attached) means it probably knows your Wii's home address, so when you go to a friend's house, you can bring your wiimote and it will automatically download your savegames and settings from your own Wii.
You could just choose to leave your wii on only if you plan to use this feature too, so no bitching about power usage (the net-connected standby has highly reduced power usage also)
Random company in china has less face to lose than Nintendo when someone doesn't set the manual switch when they swap out with alkalines so they can keep playing, and it explodes and burns their house down when they forget and drop it back in the charger. Letting the battery pack have the charging port built into its own housing (from nintendo or 3rd party) is just as good and far more fault-tolerant.
"What if there's a plug-in feature, and you can set it atop the Television to aim at the user, and use it as an eye-toy?" Well, considering its camera is covered by a black IR filter and is probably a monochrome sensor to increase resolution and cut cost, I'm guessing... No.
Wow, I know I didn't make a clear post, but you went off in a completely different direction there.
GGGP: "Once someone establishes himself as being reliable, trustworthy, competent, 'etc, they tend to get handed a lot of responsibility in short order."
Your reply: "If you're reliable, trustworthy, competent, and are happy to wear those hats, you will get your hats."
I was just debating that the only responsibilities people will take are the ones they want to. Yes, that'd be the perfectly logical behavior, but quite often, people will take more responsibility then they strictly want to. As Raul said, they've been identified as reliable and competent, and thus people come to them with "You've shown you care, so here's more work that needs to be done, could you do it? Please?" Or even worse, "Awesome job, here's some other things you can help with." A lot of organizations function like this, especially things like PTA and any community volunteer work.
What I was trying to get across was that people don't join PTA or contribute to Wikipedia unless they think it's worthwhile. And in any volunteer organization, good contributors are handed (or 'offered') more responsibility. Many people will take on more responsibility than they'd necessarily be happy with, for the good of that organization.
You don't care to be an admin, but I'll bet you can find some admins who didn't really want the position, but wanted to help. Hell, if every admin was just on a power trip, the whole thing wouldn't have gotten off the ground. Thus, in your contradiction of Raul (and possibly overzealous defense of WP), I think you were ignoring a large part of human nature and a large part of why Wikipedia works. I'm not trying to belittle your contribution, calm down.
Don't disregard the powers of guilt and obligation. After investing time in improving WP, many people are going to 'accept' roles that they otherwise wouldn't take, mostly just as justification of the time they've already invested. If it wasn't important to them, why did they start in the first place?
Is it possible that you think there is more bias because you know that any yahoo (including yourself) could have edited the page? Does an encyclopedia seem less so because of the higher barrier to editing?
Just something I think is worth considering. I'm skeptical of perception in general.
Yup, I 'fixed' someone's computer once... It would 'crash' randomly, they said. Their computer would go to sleep and the mouse wouldn't wake it (keyboard would), so they rebooted it. I just changed the settings to go to screen saver, not to sleep, since they didn't leave it on for long periods anyway.
I still don't get this idea that google is obligated to spend hundreds, possibly thousands of man-hours essentially re-writing windows software for a platform whose market share is statistically insignificant and whose user base is mostly apathetic to silly image sharing.
Seriously, the cumulative time users spent using the software probably wouldn't even surpass the man hours spent converting it.
The wine solution was faster, cheaper, did 90% of the job, and improved wine along the way. It's far and away the better answer.
My brother bought a 3DO, on the promise that some fancy mod chip would come out and make it extra-super-double-plus-good (of course, it never did). I think it offered... uhm... bigger numbers?:)
Ya know, if the mouse is moving fast enough that those subsequent frames are more than a few pixels shifted, it probably uses the previous known velocity to figure out where to start looking for the next match. Thus, acceleration is a valid statistic. It's actually probably VERY valuable information for the mouse to have whenever the mouse is very quickly changing directions.
It might make a slight difference in 1% of the situations the player encounters, which is really exactly what this mouse is for - that 1% difference that means you might survive someone's zerg rush or actually kill that instance boss. My GF's guild has, on several occasions, wiped while the boss had less then a percent of health left. What if someone had gotten off a heal a frame earlier and saved the main tank? That's probably worth $30 of mouse to some people.
Well, in a way, Globalization has an effect just as a matter of competition for the few remaining above-average-yield, below-average-risk investments.
One way to get job security from my understanding is to work for an industry that's profitable due to gov't regulation, and so wrapped up in red tape that you can't get anything done. Then there's no reason to fire you based on performance and no reason to cut the cruft. Large banks are the particular example I'm aware of. This is second hand info, btw.
Slashdot Mirror
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attractive_nuisance
They weren't children, it wasn't mortal danger or bodily harm, the teenagers should have known the risk, and anything he could do to stop them would have involved a lot of effort. Attractive Nusicance doesn't even begin to apply to this case. It is for a child that might unwittingly hurt himself.
What he did wasn't nice, but it wasn't wrong, and only maybe, barely immoral. I would argue it was a very fitting punishement.
Go me for reading a subtext in the article that wasn't even there... *cough*
*shifty eyes* What I REALLY meant was...
Isn't it funny that Google's paying one news agency for full news articles, whilst several other newspapers have tried to sue google for linking to their stuff with tiny excerpts. Who do you think is getting the short end of the stick here?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of any suit from AP... A*F*P is suing google... Which means google is paying another news agency for special features, not just regular news.
I'm going to try really hard to keep this short. This is the wrong place for this topic and I don't want this to turn into a flame war.
Yes, you're right, those are both beliefs, and the result is the same. That's NOT the issue. Evolution has nothing to do with God. The grandparent poster was asking why people don't just believe in both God and evolution. Many people do, they're not mutually exclusive.
The real issue is that a small group of people are pushing their beliefs into a science class where it doesn't belong, and fucking up the education of other people's children.
When you say "Meh, it doesn't matter" you're just confusing the issue and letting them get away with their destructive behavior. Evolution is not 'just a theory', it is not just a belief, and ID has no place in a science classroom.
Please don't confuse some people's belief that evolution might be a tool of God (perfectly valid belief), with the science of evolution, which is practical knowledge and does not depend on anyone's beliefs.
I may be out of my depth here, but from what I understand, for the most part the religious right doesn't give a flip. Intelligent design is a concept being pushed by a very very small group of extreme screwballs whose belief systems are so hard-set and stupid that evolution (and, in fact, common sense) contradicts them. They don't like it when teachers teach their kids things (like logic and thinking for yourself) that make the kids question the beliefs being thrust upon them by their parents. Thus, they covertly try to muscle in this thinly veiled creationism* into classrooms and foist it on everyone ELSE'S kids.
In general, the stupid misunderstand and defend the issue and the persecuted religious (which happen to be the majority, but nevermind) don't want to exclude any group of fervent believers. Then the politicians don't want to look like they hate religion of ANY sort, so they act non-committal. So this entire mind fuck actually gets discussed when it should just be kicked in the groin and left to die.
What I'm trying to say is - most people do have reasonable beliefs - IDers/creationists are a small group that are being moderately indulged by those who think it's bad form to say "No, your beliefs are simply wrong, you're an idiot."
*: The official ID group claims that their 'science' was misunderstood by the people who brought up the issue, and thus the penn. judge who slapped down the school board wasn't actually a rigorous investigation into their fradulent crap. Curious about this, I read everything I could find from them on the matter, and tried to read it with an open mind. From what I could find, it's creationism couched in wishy-washy terminology meant to make people who don't firmly disblieve in god smile and nod and not think too critically about it (I think the fact that a statement of beliefs is so hard to find on their site is a tacit admission of this). The judge was spot on about the whole organization.
I'm not denying there's a conspiracy, but this specifically has been answered before - at the times at which roland submits stories, very few other people are also submitting. I think it was zonk that usually used posted them, which happened because he was the only /. staff working at that time. /. does little editing, which everyone knows, so they don't hunt down the orignal source, they just take what they get. Roland just happens to gank some interesting stuff and probably submits en masse.
:) Slashdot doesn't really have much to gain by squelching people who provide good stories, regardless of how much they're gaming the system for their own profit. Roland just happens to be a poor info source, but no one gave a better one or he wouldn't get posted so much.
The question is, why didn't YOU submit this story first?
There's certainly room for improvement, but Cmdr Taco himself pointed out that there's no good reason to assume a conspiracy in this case, just blind chance. (Roland wasn't even in the top 10 of people who got their stories submitted at the time, but everyone noticed because he's one of the more annoying. And some people scream about it, which gets more attention.)
Also, fire fighters generally (I'm guessing) want high pressure and a tight spray so they can hit the base of the fire from a long (safe) distance. This robot could use the water for cooling and stick its nose straight into the fire, and spray from multiple directions at once to cancel most any kick.
Actually, it's going to have to continously spray water just to move, since having a water return line would be a little silly. I'm really curious if the motors are attached in series or parallel - i.e. does each joint spray a little every movement, or does the nose constantly spray to some degree? Too bad there aren't any pictures I can find.
Because no one's forcing schools to teach telepathy to children, in preference to researched scientific information.
I wouldn't mind at all if the government spent a little money scientifically testing Intelligent Design. I'm pretty sure I can guess the outcome, but I'd love to hear an ID believer come up with a testable hypothesis. That's pretty much the one thing they can't do. At least telepathy can produce negative (or positive, but I'd be surprised) results.
You can't just test the things you don't know. If you don't test the things you think are obvious, you might never learn if you're wrong.
Actually, evidence suggests that they're producing final units already, and development is finished.
Well, Wii-connect24 (leave your console on, and net-attached) means it probably knows your Wii's home address, so when you go to a friend's house, you can bring your wiimote and it will automatically download your savegames and settings from your own Wii.
You could just choose to leave your wii on only if you plan to use this feature too, so no bitching about power usage (the net-connected standby has highly reduced power usage also)
Random company in china has less face to lose than Nintendo when someone doesn't set the manual switch when they swap out with alkalines so they can keep playing, and it explodes and burns their house down when they forget and drop it back in the charger. Letting the battery pack have the charging port built into its own housing (from nintendo or 3rd party) is just as good and far more fault-tolerant.
"What if there's a plug-in feature, and you can set it atop the Television to aim at the user, and use it as an eye-toy?" Well, considering its camera is covered by a black IR filter and is probably a monochrome sensor to increase resolution and cut cost, I'm guessing... No.
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Los+Angeles,+CA& daddr=boston,+ma
For the lazy:
Start address: Los Angeles, CA
End address: Boston, MA
Distance: 2,980 mi (about 2 days 2 hours)
So, yes, 48 hours is doable, nonstop and speeding.
Wow, I know I didn't make a clear post, but you went off in a completely different direction there.
GGGP: "Once someone establishes himself as being reliable, trustworthy, competent, 'etc, they tend to get handed a lot of responsibility in short order."
Your reply: "If you're reliable, trustworthy, competent, and are happy to wear those hats, you will get your hats."
I was just debating that the only responsibilities people will take are the ones they want to. Yes, that'd be the perfectly logical behavior, but quite often, people will take more responsibility then they strictly want to. As Raul said, they've been identified as reliable and competent, and thus people come to them with "You've shown you care, so here's more work that needs to be done, could you do it? Please?" Or even worse, "Awesome job, here's some other things you can help with." A lot of organizations function like this, especially things like PTA and any community volunteer work.
What I was trying to get across was that people don't join PTA or contribute to Wikipedia unless they think it's worthwhile. And in any volunteer organization, good contributors are handed (or 'offered') more responsibility. Many people will take on more responsibility than they'd necessarily be happy with, for the good of that organization.
You don't care to be an admin, but I'll bet you can find some admins who didn't really want the position, but wanted to help. Hell, if every admin was just on a power trip, the whole thing wouldn't have gotten off the ground. Thus, in your contradiction of Raul (and possibly overzealous defense of WP), I think you were ignoring a large part of human nature and a large part of why Wikipedia works. I'm not trying to belittle your contribution, calm down.
Don't disregard the powers of guilt and obligation. After investing time in improving WP, many people are going to 'accept' roles that they otherwise wouldn't take, mostly just as justification of the time they've already invested. If it wasn't important to them, why did they start in the first place?
Is it possible that you think there is more bias because you know that any yahoo (including yourself) could have edited the page? Does an encyclopedia seem less so because of the higher barrier to editing?
Just something I think is worth considering. I'm skeptical of perception in general.
Yeah, it'd be pretty sweet if Nintendo started making open source software. :)
For different reasons, the grandparent post and I would both argue you should attend mass. :)
Yup, I 'fixed' someone's computer once... It would 'crash' randomly, they said. Their computer would go to sleep and the mouse wouldn't wake it (keyboard would), so they rebooted it. I just changed the settings to go to screen saver, not to sleep, since they didn't leave it on for long periods anyway.
I still don't get this idea that google is obligated to spend hundreds, possibly thousands of man-hours essentially re-writing windows software for a platform whose market share is statistically insignificant and whose user base is mostly apathetic to silly image sharing.
Seriously, the cumulative time users spent using the software probably wouldn't even surpass the man hours spent converting it.
The wine solution was faster, cheaper, did 90% of the job, and improved wine along the way. It's far and away the better answer.
My brother bought a 3DO, on the promise that some fancy mod chip would come out and make it extra-super-double-plus-good (of course, it never did). I think it offered ... uhm... bigger numbers? :)
Oh yeah, he bought a jaguar too.
Ya know, if the mouse is moving fast enough that those subsequent frames are more than a few pixels shifted, it probably uses the previous known velocity to figure out where to start looking for the next match. Thus, acceleration is a valid statistic. It's actually probably VERY valuable information for the mouse to have whenever the mouse is very quickly changing directions.
It might make a slight difference in 1% of the situations the player encounters, which is really exactly what this mouse is for - that 1% difference that means you might survive someone's zerg rush or actually kill that instance boss. My GF's guild has, on several occasions, wiped while the boss had less then a percent of health left. What if someone had gotten off a heal a frame earlier and saved the main tank? That's probably worth $30 of mouse to some people.
Fan'd you, just for spite. :)
Well, in a way, Globalization has an effect just as a matter of competition for the few remaining above-average-yield, below-average-risk investments.
One way to get job security from my understanding is to work for an industry that's profitable due to gov't regulation, and so wrapped up in red tape that you can't get anything done. Then there's no reason to fire you based on performance and no reason to cut the cruft. Large banks are the particular example I'm aware of. This is second hand info, btw.
Great idea! Let's expel every naive person. You first.