Of course, this is totally meaningless without knowing the size of the pools. If your Apple pool is 100 times bigger than your Dell/HP pool, then a 10x service difference might be expected.
They're about equal. The iMacs have more homogeneity, but the problems are not unique to a batch, so overall I'd say the Apple machines are bad. The few Mac Pros we have are solid, but iMacs and Macbooks (pro) are seeing hardware failures across the board.
If you really are sending Apples out 10x more than other brands, you're doing so out of your ignorance. I've seen this many times in strong Windows shop that grudgingly support Apple, and send out minor issues for a warranty fix just to "prove" their point. Sad little creatures, they are.
No, not ignorance. Hardware is failing. That's hard to confuse with software. HDDs, fans, RAM, motherboards... I'm happier with Apple's OS more than I am Windows, but their hardware is being designed poorly lately. Did you know that iMacs don't run fans based on temperature unless Mac OS X is running? So if you dual boot, or run in target mode, they run fans at the lowest setting, heat up to non-touchable levels and sometimes shut down. That's really bad design. Even Bootcamp drivers don't have temperature control according to the tier2 Apple phone guy.
Not all spy work is intelligence gathering. Sometimes it is guidance, carefully maneuvering targets to do things. Who did he go drinking with after work from MS? Who could he have influenced? Sometimes spy work is assassination. Did anyone go missing?
We are a culture that values strength over intelligence. A man who is unflexible, unyielding, who cannot be changed is strong. A man who is open to change, who compromises appears to have a weak heart. When we argue and discuss, our goal is not to learn something, is not to find the right answer - our goal is to win the argument
That is why I attack an argument from all angles. I always win...
A high level of intelectual abilities (i.e. IQ) is no defense against it: just look at all the religious-like flamewars around things like editors and operating systems.
Spoken like one of those vi users. Some of us know how to use our high IQs.
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All this shows is that people have a bias to what they first know, which is usually a good thing as it prevents you second-guessing everything you do every second of the day.
I have to support hundreds of iMacs and MacBooks at work, and I've had to call in tons of warranty repairs the last couple years (easily 10x than from our pool of HP and Dell machines). I thought maybe apple was ditching quality on the macs in favor of the iPhone, iPod, because of iTunes $$$, but it seems they're just neglecting quality across the board. It doesn't "just work" anymore; it just looks pretty (until the style looks outdated).
And fear is never a good motivation for a purchase unless you're selling security of some sort. Music is not a weapon, a lock, or an alarm. Music is not a bodyguard. If a street vendor tried to instill fear to get you to buy something, you'd want him arrested. "Hey, Hey you! I see you wear a watch. Buy my watch or those punks down the street will take your money. They and I have an understanding. Anyone wears my watches; they're like family." That doesn't make me want to buy a watch; it makes me want to avoid the area and/or call the cops.
On the other hand you have a lot of coal (85% of the electricity production plus exports). And coal by a conservative estimate kills 3 or 4 times the number of people who died due to Chernobyl each year!
People die from Chernobyl each year?
English is fun!
And every year, coal kills 3 or 4 times the number of people who died due to Chernobyl!
I have no idea if it's true, but at least that sentence might make more sense to you.
Is it a binary thing? 1200x dioxin maybe no worse than >1x dioxin? Once you get >1x dioxin, maybe you can swim in the stuff and not have any worse chance of cancer? It's certainly not 1200x worse...
Let the norms now tremble before the combined might of the Nerds and Bullies, hereafter known collectively as the Outcasts. Their powers of intelligence and strength have at last combined in a mighty aliance.
Yes, how dare they? Dominoes Pizza recently made a big deal out of taking strong criticism and changing their recipe. Apple seems to be taking the opposite tack: "Buy a bumper, there are many on the market, including one we just designed concurrently with the iphone4. You're holding it wrong. See, no one's complaining on our forums."
We should laugh and point at the emperor when he wears no clothes.
They want a cool, sharp, designed world where everything is taken care of, by the caring giant that is Steve Jobs. He cares. He makes the world a better place. You don't have to worry about it.
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What I don't get is for all those people complaining, why they don't return the damn thing.
Because they've invested thousands of dollars in iphone apps, peripherals, and psychiatric bills.
I just answered an AC with the same info. I don't know why I did that; you were far more pleasant in your comment.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1719204&cid=32906058
Of course, this is totally meaningless without knowing the size of the pools. If your Apple pool is 100 times bigger than your Dell/HP pool, then a 10x service difference might be expected.
They're about equal. The iMacs have more homogeneity, but the problems are not unique to a batch, so overall I'd say the Apple machines are bad. The few Mac Pros we have are solid, but iMacs and Macbooks (pro) are seeing hardware failures across the board.
If you really are sending Apples out 10x more than other brands, you're doing so out of your ignorance. I've seen this many times in strong Windows shop that grudgingly support Apple, and send out minor issues for a warranty fix just to "prove" their point. Sad little creatures, they are.
No, not ignorance. Hardware is failing. That's hard to confuse with software. HDDs, fans, RAM, motherboards... I'm happier with Apple's OS more than I am Windows, but their hardware is being designed poorly lately. Did you know that iMacs don't run fans based on temperature unless Mac OS X is running? So if you dual boot, or run in target mode, they run fans at the lowest setting, heat up to non-touchable levels and sometimes shut down. That's really bad design. Even Bootcamp drivers don't have temperature control according to the tier2 Apple phone guy.
Not necessarily safe for work (language): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
"I need an iPhone4"
Not all spy work is intelligence gathering. Sometimes it is guidance, carefully maneuvering targets to do things. Who did he go drinking with after work from MS? Who could he have influenced? Sometimes spy work is assassination. Did anyone go missing?
We are a culture that values strength over intelligence. A man who is unflexible, unyielding, who cannot be changed is strong. A man who is open to change, who compromises appears to have a weak heart. When we argue and discuss, our goal is not to learn something, is not to find the right answer - our goal is to win the argument
That is why I attack an argument from all angles. I always win...
A high level of intelectual abilities (i.e. IQ) is no defense against it: just look at all the religious-like flamewars around things like editors and operating systems.
Spoken like one of those vi users. Some of us know how to use our high IQs.
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Ha! emacs user tried to save before posting.
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All this shows is that people have a bias to what they first know, which is usually a good thing as it prevents you second-guessing everything you do every second of the day.
doh! I could have said "live on the edge"
If checking the number of bars "is a dangerous way to draw technical conclusions about a phone's reception" then a) why include the bar graph at all
because some people live for the thrill. ... Five bars of danger
-posted from my iPhone
But they were counting on that $30 revenue per iphone4 for their bumpers. They even suggested buying one as a solution early on.
I have to support hundreds of iMacs and MacBooks at work, and I've had to call in tons of warranty repairs the last couple years (easily 10x than from our pool of HP and Dell machines). I thought maybe apple was ditching quality on the macs in favor of the iPhone, iPod, because of iTunes $$$, but it seems they're just neglecting quality across the board. It doesn't "just work" anymore; it just looks pretty (until the style looks outdated).
I won't buy Sony because they won't give up on Memory Stick(TM).
Weren't some of these cars supposedly accelerating with brake-pads grinding away and smoldering from the friction?
It's to instill fear
And fear is never a good motivation for a purchase unless you're selling security of some sort. Music is not a weapon, a lock, or an alarm. Music is not a bodyguard. If a street vendor tried to instill fear to get you to buy something, you'd want him arrested. "Hey, Hey you! I see you wear a watch. Buy my watch or those punks down the street will take your money. They and I have an understanding. Anyone wears my watches; they're like family." That doesn't make me want to buy a watch; it makes me want to avoid the area and/or call the cops.
Also consider that radioactivity is not the only danger with the waste. The materials involved are also very toxic.
Pfft. Break them down long enough and they decay into lead. I've nary heard one word about lead toxicity. ~
On the other hand you have a lot of coal (85% of the electricity production plus exports). And coal by a conservative estimate kills 3 or 4 times the number of people who died due to Chernobyl each year!
People die from Chernobyl each year?
English is fun!
And every year, coal kills 3 or 4 times the number of people who died due to Chernobyl!
I have no idea if it's true, but at least that sentence might make more sense to you.
Is it a binary thing? 1200x dioxin maybe no worse than >1x dioxin? Once you get >1x dioxin, maybe you can swim in the stuff and not have any worse chance of cancer? It's certainly not 1200x worse...
Sure. But I hear the breakage on downloads is terrible.
Well, every download is broken up into packets, so breakage should be 100%
Let the norms now tremble before the combined might of the Nerds and Bullies, hereafter known collectively as the Outcasts. Their powers of intelligence and strength have at last combined in a mighty aliance.
Master/Blaster?
Give the nerds flintlock pistols.
But my costume is from the era of matchlock firearms! :(
Yes, how dare they? Dominoes Pizza recently made a big deal out of taking strong criticism and changing their recipe. Apple seems to be taking the opposite tack: "Buy a bumper, there are many on the market, including one we just designed concurrently with the iphone4. You're holding it wrong. See, no one's complaining on our forums."
We should laugh and point at the emperor when he wears no clothes.
They want a cool, sharp, designed world where everything is taken care of, by the caring giant that is Steve Jobs. He cares. He makes the world a better place. You don't have to worry about it.
Didn't someone write a book about that?
Indeed. They wrote a series of books.
Facial recognition? I suppose they could tune it with old photos and count false positives as positives.
that gives worms to ex-girlfriends.
Make sure you think about all possible meanings of that sentence before you make your genie-wish.