I think it's not exactly as you say. Yo say the philosophy is this law or whatever it is is "If you pay this contractor, we guarantee this contractor will provide this minimal service.", but it's not exactly that.
The real philosophy behind it is: "If you want to pay someone to get some minimal service, we guarantee you there will be someone to be paid to and to provide that service to you"
It's a subtle, but very a very important difference
These are not inalienable, instinctive, natural rights. They are temporary government-granted privileges of monopoly, typically at the expense of your neighbors who are footing the bill (either directly or indirectly).
So what? Nobody said housing or broad band were inalienable, instinctive nor natural rights. If you can put, and you do, so many adjectives to one word, it seems to me that the word itself isn't carrying the meaning of all those three words, so "rights" by itself doesn't mean "something which is inalienable, instinctive and natural" to guarantee people to, just something to guarantee people to.
getting 50.000 people, as you say, "loyal" is really difficult
I forgot to say it's not only the random elected people that would have to be under government control, it's also the local representatives of the other parties who are supervising each box, and maybe a few of them are corrupt even against their own party, but you would need to buy at least two or three people more per box, and those would be the same who would be willing to buy you to vote or tamper in favour of their own parties, so I doubt very much anything like this could happen.
From the article: En el 2004 había 56.585 mesas electorales, so about 56585 boxes to count.
And yes, I also think it's pretty expensive. At 50€ per person, it's in fact more than ten million euros per national election. However, we also try to make all the elections happen in the same day, to save money and time. But it's true it's expensive, though we all think it's worth it.
Maybe Spanish people are extremely law abiding, but I don't see the unlikeliness of that happening if the current government tried to perpetuate itself. Basically it would need only to tamper the selection mechanism to put "loyal" people at the tables.
I don't think we're enthusiastically prone to law, but the advantadge of our system is that it really doesn't matter if you tamper 1, 100 or 1000 boxes, cause there are fifty thousand of them, and getting 50.000 people, as you say, "loyal" is really difficult, given that anyone can go and help -meaning supervising- with the recount and they could easily get caught tricking the count.
Yeah, we do count every box, and there are always at least four people counting each box. One of them is designed by the local administration, and the other three are chosen randomly from the electorate itself.
If you're chosen, you are obliged to stay there during the day, and payed 50€ for the inconvenience. Of course, you aren't punished if you present some medical condition, are travelling or that kind of things.
Also, each party can send as many representatives as they want to each box or school, to verify nothing strange happens.
We don't go all the 40 million people the same place to vote, nor do we count the ballots one by one.
We open up nearly all schools, so every one of us is assigned the nearest from his home, just a few minutes walking. Inside each school, there are several ballot boxes, so in the end, there's no more than a few hundred ballots in each box, maybe a thousand at the most.
Counting that, is just a matter of minutes, and reporting the total count to a central administration is againt a matter of seconds by phone. Of course you then have to take all the ballots and you can recount them all many times you want, and a physical hand signed report from all the members at the school, but anyhow, it's just a matter of parallelizing properly.
Sure it's more difficult in a place like Brazil, but having a 90% count by the end of the day, seems really feasible to me. Maybe you can enlighten me if I made wrong suppositions, but I suspect there was something really bad done there in those days.
The voting system has been widely accepted, due in great part to the fact that it speeds up the vote count tremendously. In the 1989 presidential election between Fernando Collor de Mello and Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the vote count required nine days. In the 2002 general election, the count required less than 12 hours. In some smaller towns the election results are known minutes after the closing of the ballots.
I just don't get it. In Spain we know the results of the election with more than the 90% of votes counted at 21:00, while the election itself ends at 20:00. In an hour more or two, we got the 100% minus the postal votes. And of course our system is just the goold old ballot.
If you watch new users try to understand the rationale for double click, and try to master the operation (it's really unnecessarily demanding of manual dexterity)
This is absolutely fucking true. My mother, which was around 50 the first time she tried to double click on an icon, isn't still able to do it, about ten years later. And no, she isn't illiterate, nor stupid, nor suffers parkinson's disease, she is just unable to double click de button without moving the mouse in between or doing it fast enough.
And, of course, if you just want to move the file, as you need to actually DO something with it after you've selected it, just click on it while you do the thing: drag and drop or whatever.
Not at all, it's the equivalent of a biology class in which you study man specially crafted cells and organisms to better understand the basics of life, instead of trying to approach a much more complex organism.
In fact, all people around me whith whom I've talked about current government actions feels absolutely betrayed. And this is not the worst thing they've done until now.
They promised to lower the housing price... and guess what? It's raised nearly a 16% in the first three months of the current year.
And remember ETA? The basque-nationalist terrorist group? They have killed more than a thousand people, nearly a hundred kidnaps, and now they were nearly finished, since police was doing a great work. Now, they (ETA) has set up a "permanent ceasefire" (which you can believe or not, they are still sending extorsion letters to companies in the Pais Vasco), and the Government is talking with them, illegaly, and right against most population opinion. They are giving ETA new strength, because they're talking with them, negotiating, and we still don't know what is going to happen with this (is Zapatero's government going to surrender to ETA?).
Having p2p forbidden, something they won't be able to enforce, doesn't seem the worst thing which is happening now with the government.
Of course I would have asked for it. And I always do, with whichever thing it's that it's broken, be it a hard disk or the pressure-regulator of my tap; because that's the only way I got to know that what they say they've changed, they've changed it indeed, and because it may be broken, but maybe they're capable of repairing and reselling it, earning twice the cost of my tap pressure-regulator. And what the hell, because it's MY tap pressure regulator, why should they keep it?
Sending cease & desists letters on 2006 referring to something that couldn't happen on Sunday 23 Day of April in the year 2005, because 23 of April 2005 was Saturday, being it an obvious typo, is a violation of the "mistaken written date" copyright that I hold.
If you wish to make typos in your letters, please write me and ask for rates.
Well, of course now it's too late to change the system. We cannot take away sex.com from their current owners and expect them to just understand the change after having paid don't know how many million dollars.
The problem is that in the begining machines just had their names as mine is called 'senec', with no dot anything at the end, and the idea of theme organized.TLDs is just silly - which is supposed to be the difference between a.net and a.org domain?
So maybe we had had to think better on it before going on with all that.TLDs, and if we had to start thinking on it from scratch we now know that companies will be ready to pay big quantities of money for just their name, so we should take care of it in order to avoid misbehaviours we now know that happen and are undesiderable.
And of course there are names which will be repeated, and you got a point there, but maybe we could make more people happy than we do now without any kind of regulation.
I was thinking more on a kind of white pages ordered by name, so for example, if i want to contact my uncle Gen Too but I don't remmeber his address, I'll go to gentoo.tel, and I will find there contact information from all people and companies around the world who have decided they want to appear in that index and are named Gen Too (or Gentoo, for instance).
So when I decide to create my company Ge nToo, S. L. in Spain, I will submit my information to the authority who controls.tel domains, so when my clients want to contact me, they don't have to think if my domain is gentoo.org, gentoo.com or whatever, they will just type gentoo.tel, and search in the descriptions of all gentoo named persons and companies, till they find mine.
There would be no more conflicts about who should own which domain, because all of them will be as easy to reach as any other - just type gentoo.tel and decide which gentoo are you interested in, the linux distribution, the file manager, my beer company called Ge nToo or my uncle Gen Too.
I really don't know if this would work, but is the only utility I can find to a the.tel TLD.
1. Domain names are NOT about trademarks. A trademark doesnt (or shouldnt) entitle you to a matching trademark, and lack of a trademark doesnt prohibit you from registering a domain.
That may be true, but in several countries there has been lawsuits regarding who owns a domain name, because sometimes you register coke.com intending to sell it for a thousand million dollar, but coke owns the "Coke" trademark, so why should they pay more than a few bucks to get coke.com, since they are already paying for their trademark?
Maybe you're right in theory, but in theory what happens in practice should be what happens in theory, but in practice what happens in practice is not what happens in theory.
2. Your 'by country' resolution of domains is unworkable - it is NOT possible for a DNS server to determine the physical location of a client making a lookup request. There are schemes to GUESS at it, but nothing remotely close to accurate.
So, just get rid of those top level domains, we don't need them.
I totatally agree with your parent post. In US doesn't existe any other Microsoft than Microsoft, and here in Spain doesn't exists any other "Hazent Systems, S. L." than that which I happen to own, so why should I have to be the first to want to buy the domain in order to get hazent-systems.com.es when I've already payed for my company name?
However, there in the US could exist a Hazent Systems, Inc. since I haven't pay there for my name and someone else could do, so I should have any right to ask for hazent-systems.com.us unless I do bussines there and I have created there a company to do my bussines.
Indeed, the.com part of the domains shouldn't be needed, since legal names are already unique, it doesn't matter if I am a corporation or an asocciation of cat-lovers.
Or the people who share names with companies. Or the people who share names with each other. There will be collisions.
I could see a way this would work. Whenever you ask for your namelastname.tel or mycompanyname.tel you won't get that domain for you, instead you would have to fill in a form in which you write a brief description of who you or your company are and write down your contact information, including your real website.
This way, if I need to contact with some person or company, I'll type itsname.tel on my browser, and I will search for the person I'm looking for, so all people with the same name could get the chance of being found in itsname.tel.
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I think it's not exactly as you say. Yo say the philosophy is this law or whatever it is is "If you pay this contractor, we guarantee this contractor will provide this minimal service.", but it's not exactly that.
The real philosophy behind it is: "If you want to pay someone to get some minimal service, we guarantee you there will be someone to be paid to and to provide that service to you"
It's a subtle, but very a very important difference
These are not inalienable, instinctive, natural rights. They are temporary government-granted privileges of monopoly, typically at the expense of your neighbors who are footing the bill (either directly or indirectly).
So what? Nobody said housing or broad band were inalienable, instinctive nor natural rights. If you can put, and you do, so many adjectives to one word, it seems to me that the word itself isn't carrying the meaning of all those three words, so "rights" by itself doesn't mean "something which is inalienable, instinctive and natural" to guarantee people to, just something to guarantee people to.
getting 50.000 people, as you say, "loyal" is really difficult
I forgot to say it's not only the random elected people that would have to be under government control, it's also the local representatives of the other parties who are supervising each box, and maybe a few of them are corrupt even against their own party, but you would need to buy at least two or three people more per box, and those would be the same who would be willing to buy you to vote or tamper in favour of their own parties, so I doubt very much anything like this could happen.
1. How many boxes are there to count?
From the article: En el 2004 había 56.585 mesas electorales, so about 56585 boxes to count.
And yes, I also think it's pretty expensive. At 50€ per person, it's in fact more than ten million euros per national election. However, we also try to make all the elections happen in the same day, to save money and time. But it's true it's expensive, though we all think it's worth it.
Maybe Spanish people are extremely law abiding, but I don't see the unlikeliness of that happening if the current government tried to perpetuate itself. Basically it would need only to tamper the selection mechanism to put "loyal" people at the tables.
I don't think we're enthusiastically prone to law, but the advantadge of our system is that it really doesn't matter if you tamper 1, 100 or 1000 boxes, cause there are fifty thousand of them, and getting 50.000 people, as you say, "loyal" is really difficult, given that anyone can go and help -meaning supervising- with the recount and they could easily get caught tricking the count.
Yeah, we do count every box, and there are always at least four people counting each box. One of them is designed by the local administration, and the other three are chosen randomly from the electorate itself.
If you're chosen, you are obliged to stay there during the day, and payed 50€ for the inconvenience. Of course, you aren't punished if you present some medical condition, are travelling or that kind of things.
Also, each party can send as many representatives as they want to each box or school, to verify nothing strange happens.
If you're interested and can read spanish, you should go read this link. It's from 2005 and discusses the electronic vote and compares it with our actual system.. I'm sorry is too long for me to translate it accurately
I still don't get it.
We don't go all the 40 million people the same place to vote, nor do we count the ballots one by one.
We open up nearly all schools, so every one of us is assigned the nearest from his home, just a few minutes walking. Inside each school, there are several ballot boxes, so in the end, there's no more than a few hundred ballots in each box, maybe a thousand at the most.
Counting that, is just a matter of minutes, and reporting the total count to a central administration is againt a matter of seconds by phone. Of course you then have to take all the ballots and you can recount them all many times you want, and a physical hand signed report from all the members at the school, but anyhow, it's just a matter of parallelizing properly.
Sure it's more difficult in a place like Brazil, but having a 90% count by the end of the day, seems really feasible to me. Maybe you can enlighten me if I made wrong suppositions, but I suspect there was something really bad done there in those days.
The voting system has been widely accepted, due in great part to the fact that it speeds up the vote count tremendously. In the 1989 presidential election between Fernando Collor de Mello and Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the vote count required nine days. In the 2002 general election, the count required less than 12 hours. In some smaller towns the election results are known minutes after the closing of the ballots.
I just don't get it. In Spain we know the results of the election with more than the 90% of votes counted at 21:00, while the election itself ends at 20:00. In an hour more or two, we got the 100% minus the postal votes. And of course our system is just the goold old ballot.
If you watch new users try to understand the rationale for double click, and try to master the operation (it's really unnecessarily demanding of manual dexterity)
This is absolutely fucking true. My mother, which was around 50 the first time she tried to double click on an icon, isn't still able to do it, about ten years later. And no, she isn't illiterate, nor stupid, nor suffers parkinson's disease, she is just unable to double click de button without moving the mouse in between or doing it fast enough.
And, of course, if you just want to move the file, as you need to actually DO something with it after you've selected it, just click on it while you do the thing: drag and drop or whatever.
Not at all, it's the equivalent of a biology class in which you study man specially crafted cells and organisms to better understand the basics of life, instead of trying to approach a much more complex organism.
In fact, all people around me whith whom I've talked about current government actions feels absolutely betrayed. And this is not the worst thing they've done until now.
They promised to lower the housing price... and guess what? It's raised nearly a 16% in the first three months of the current year.
And remember ETA? The basque-nationalist terrorist group? They have killed more than a thousand people, nearly a hundred kidnaps, and now they were nearly finished, since police was doing a great work. Now, they (ETA) has set up a "permanent ceasefire" (which you can believe or not, they are still sending extorsion letters to companies in the Pais Vasco), and the Government is talking with them, illegaly, and right against most population opinion. They are giving ETA new strength, because they're talking with them, negotiating, and we still don't know what is going to happen with this (is Zapatero's government going to surrender to ETA?).
Having p2p forbidden, something they won't be able to enforce, doesn't seem the worst thing which is happening now with the government.
sed -i 's/^# deb/deb/'
Of course I would have asked for it. And I always do, with whichever thing it's that it's broken, be it a hard disk or the pressure-regulator of my tap; because that's the only way I got to know that what they say they've changed, they've changed it indeed, and because it may be broken, but maybe they're capable of repairing and reselling it, earning twice the cost of my tap pressure-regulator. And what the hell, because it's MY tap pressure regulator, why should they keep it?
Dear Russ1337
Sending cease & desists letters on 2006 referring to something that couldn't happen on Sunday 23 Day of April in the year 2005, because 23 of April 2005 was Saturday, being it an obvious typo, is a violation of the "mistaken written date" copyright that I hold.
If you wish to make typos in your letters, please write me and ask for rates.
Regards,
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Well, of course now it's too late to change the system. We cannot take away sex.com from their current owners and expect them to just understand the change after having paid don't know how many million dollars.
.TLDs is just silly - which is supposed to be the difference between a .net and a .org domain?
.TLDs, and if we had to start thinking on it from scratch we now know that companies will be ready to pay big quantities of money for just their name, so we should take care of it in order to avoid misbehaviours we now know that happen and are undesiderable.
The problem is that in the begining machines just had their names as mine is called 'senec', with no dot anything at the end, and the idea of theme organized
So maybe we had had to think better on it before going on with all that
And of course there are names which will be repeated, and you got a point there, but maybe we could make more people happy than we do now without any kind of regulation.
I was thinking more on a kind of white pages ordered by name, so for example, if i want to contact my uncle Gen Too but I don't remmeber his address, I'll go to gentoo.tel, and I will find there contact information from all people and companies around the world who have decided they want to appear in that index and are named Gen Too (or Gentoo, for instance).
.tel domains, so when my clients want to contact me, they don't have to think if my domain is gentoo.org, gentoo.com or whatever, they will just type gentoo.tel, and search in the descriptions of all gentoo named persons and companies, till they find mine.
.tel TLD.
This way I will find in gentoo.tel a link to the homepage for the gentoo linux distribution but also another one for the file manager called gentoo.
So when I decide to create my company Ge nToo, S. L. in Spain, I will submit my information to the authority who controls
There would be no more conflicts about who should own which domain, because all of them will be as easy to reach as any other - just type gentoo.tel and decide which gentoo are you interested in, the linux distribution, the file manager, my beer company called Ge nToo or my uncle Gen Too.
I really don't know if this would work, but is the only utility I can find to a the
Maybe you're right in theory, but in theory what happens in practice should be what happens in theory, but in practice what happens in practice is not what happens in theory.
So, just get rid of those top level domains, we don't need them.
I totatally agree with your parent post. In US doesn't existe any other Microsoft than Microsoft, and here in Spain doesn't exists any other "Hazent Systems, S. L." than that which I happen to own, so why should I have to be the first to want to buy the domain in order to get hazent-systems.com.es when I've already payed for my company name?
However, there in the US could exist a Hazent Systems, Inc. since I haven't pay there for my name and someone else could do, so I should have any right to ask for hazent-systems.com.us unless I do bussines there and I have created there a company to do my bussines.
Indeed, the
I could see a way this would work. Whenever you ask for your namelastname.tel or mycompanyname.tel you won't get that domain for you, instead you would have to fill in a form in which you write a brief description of who you or your company are and write down your contact information, including your real website.
This way, if I need to contact with some person or company, I'll type itsname.tel on my browser, and I will search for the person I'm looking for, so all people with the same name could get the chance of being found in itsname.tel.