It is a fit against an internet that gets dumber every day; that promotes consumption against creativity. This is not the internet the old-school is used to. Sure commercialization of the web made it what it is, popular and all, but dumbing it down to extremes just makes it yet another worthless aspect of everyday life instead of a platform for communication and creativity.
Slashdot is one of the last popular resorts for people of this kind. Now, the problem is, maybe the Slashdot owners don't want to have techies on the site; they want the teens who know no better to click on the ads. That's just fine, but it will make a lot of people sad and will mark the end of an era. The fit is not really about what the site owners should do with their property, it is against the end of that era.
I was very interesting in reading what the slashdot crowd would have to say on this topic and on the opinion of Woz. However: 1. The slashdot crowd is too pissed of with Beta, so all they do is keep complaining about it, and, 2. If they didn't complain and Beta was rolled out in silence then I would still not be able to read what the slashdot crowd had to say on the comment of Woz, because the discussion section of Beta sucks.
So, pretty please, with sugar on top, take back the fucking Beta.
I got a message urging me to try it, so I clicked on it, looked at the Beta and thought: oh, this looks like Slashdot on my phone. And clicked back to the original interface after only a short while. Learn a lesson from Win8: Interfaces that look good on a phone, are crap for a desktop.
I mean, you have people on this site that actually believe that a CLI is a superior interface. And you try to impress them with eye-candy that takes functionality away? Goodluckwiththat.
Supermarkets in Germany are open on Saturdays until 20:00 and are closed only on Sundays. If you happen to live close to the border with the Netherlands, you get supermarkets open on Sundays as well.
In comparison to Europeans, they do. They buy more packaged goods and the packaged goods in the US last longer than in the EU. Europeans make far more supermarket runs per week than Americans.
Source: A document that I found at work, written by Americans to help their fellow Americans settle in Germany. They gave warning that food spoils faster than they are used to in the US, that it is normal to go to the supermarket once a day,
Not only is household taxation in the US less than in the EU (and don't even get me started about VAT) you get to sell your military produce to European countries as well! You do not pay the most for gasoline, either directly or indirectly. You don't have "all the social programs of Europe" because they don't fit in your mentality/way of living, and that's fine by me, but don't give us the crap that you can't afford them because you have to ensure cheap oil for the rest of the world!
"Randy Lindemann knows all kinds of crazy stuff the rover can do. He describes using the rover to flip over a rock. You drive it over the rock so that the rock is between the two back wheels on one side. Then you drive all of the wheels backward except for that middle wheel, and as the middle wheel drags backward, its cleats catch the underside of the rock and flip it. If little Martian bugs crawl out, you win unlimited funding. "
On the other hand, kudos to Google for not using their dominance in mail, search, Android and other services/products for trying to push Schemer down the throats of their users. They had a product, it didn't fly on its own, it's OK for it to die. Which is not what other companies are doing with bloatware software on phones, tablets and laptops. Nobody got a killer app by doing this and the people at Google seem to realize this.
Well, "bad" literature will die, and that's a good thing, because it will reduce the amount of material that somebody needs to go through. In scientific literature, bad papers (i.e. with erroneous conclusions, obsolete models, etc) will get cited less and less and they will thus pass on into oblivion. Cheap novels are dying remarkably fast, and only the best material is remembered.
So, no need to get rid of bad material, or keep it from being created. The collective intelligence will take care of that!
This is business. This is about saving face and national egos. It's about time we learned a little finesse in this area. It's something the Chinese do exceptionally well.
$5B as end price likely tickle through the economy as somethign like $30B total gross product. The tax on that alone is surely beyond $5B.
Hmm... How is this even possible when the suppliers, from the oil and ore up to the computers and the fuselage, all factored in their costs, profits and taxes in the price? Doesn't the $5B price include all that? The $5B will "tickle through the economy" exactly as $5B, unless some of the companies involved shut down because of this deal not happening. You could argue about the fact that Boeing will also not be manufacturing any spare parts, but this must be a comparably small amount.
What you wrote would have had better chances of making sense if the planes would have been used within the US, in which case they would have provided employment to military personnel, maintenance engineers etc. for many years. But this is not the case.
This is 2013 (almost 2014!) why are we talking about vectorization? Why don't people write code in vector notation in the first place anyway? If Matlab and Fortran could implement this 25 years ago, I am sure we are ready to move on now...
While I agree with you overall, I just want to comment on some specific points.
Paying for a fire department is actually an insurance. The profitability of insurance is debatable, but it makes sense enough so that people pay it, often voluntarily. Education is most certainly profitable, since a lot of people are willing to save money or take loans in order to finance their education or that of their children (in Europe things are a bit different, but let's not make this too complicated). Education is an investment, made while hoping that it will enable you to get a better paying job in the future, thus making a profit in the long run. Highways are profitable because they ease commerce. The profitability of selling goods, as well as getting people to work and getting raw materials to the factories is more than obvious. Parks, playgrounds, clean streets and clean air and water are profitable because they add to a community's well-being, which in turn saves on the health-care bills (public health-care is also, like education, a touchy subject, but as I said, let's keep this simple).
My point is not that you are wrong or anything, it's just that we can look at almost anything from the profitability perspective, and it will still make sense. Science IMHO is very much like education, and should be funded. Science is very much profitable! Not only because it is the extrapolation of education, but for the very simple reason that it improves our everyday lives from new medicine to tech gadgets (which get sold and bought, making profit in the process!). And, more to the topic, exploration? Now, that's a profitable area, if I ever saw one! The problem with the GP's perspective is that he/she cannot see these things this way, which we can only change with a better education (which is why I think that education is a topic of national significance).
Slashdot Mirror
That's the whole point. With Beta there can be no discussion.
Yes, he hast to throw a fit.
It is a fit against an internet that gets dumber every day; that promotes consumption against creativity. This is not the internet the old-school is used to. Sure commercialization of the web made it what it is, popular and all, but dumbing it down to extremes just makes it yet another worthless aspect of everyday life instead of a platform for communication and creativity.
Slashdot is one of the last popular resorts for people of this kind. Now, the problem is, maybe the Slashdot owners don't want to have techies on the site; they want the teens who know no better to click on the ads. That's just fine, but it will make a lot of people sad and will mark the end of an era. The fit is not really about what the site owners should do with their property, it is against the end of that era.
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated in the comments section.
I was very interesting in reading what the slashdot crowd would have to say on this topic and on the opinion of Woz. However:
1. The slashdot crowd is too pissed of with Beta, so all they do is keep complaining about it, and,
2. If they didn't complain and Beta was rolled out in silence then I would still not be able to read what the slashdot crowd had to say on the comment of Woz, because the discussion section of Beta sucks.
So, pretty please, with sugar on top, take back the fucking Beta.
I got a message urging me to try it, so I clicked on it, looked at the Beta and thought: oh, this looks like Slashdot on my phone. And clicked back to the original interface after only a short while. Learn a lesson from Win8: Interfaces that look good on a phone, are crap for a desktop.
I mean, you have people on this site that actually believe that a CLI is a superior interface. And you try to impress them with eye-candy that takes functionality away? Goodluckwiththat.
What were you guys thinking?
You mean Silicon Heaven. Silicone Heaven is yo mama's boobs.
Supermarkets in Germany are open on Saturdays until 20:00 and are closed only on Sundays. If you happen to live close to the border with the Netherlands, you get supermarkets open on Sundays as well.
Now go kill yourself.
Now everybody spoiler-happy dude will go read the leaked screenplay. The Tarantino effect is just like the Streisand effect, but bloodier...
420 m^2, to be exact. In fact, both panels together make a badminton court!
The "Hello, can we have your liver?" sketch should be changed into something more along the lines of "Give us your liver! This is a robbery!".
In comparison to Europeans, they do. They buy more packaged goods and the packaged goods in the US last longer than in the EU. Europeans make far more supermarket runs per week than Americans.
Source: A document that I found at work, written by Americans to help their fellow Americans settle in Germany. They gave warning that food spoils faster than they are used to in the US, that it is normal to go to the supermarket once a day,
Wow, what a ton of bullshit.
Not only is household taxation in the US less than in the EU (and don't even get me started about VAT) you get to sell your military produce to European countries as well! You do not pay the most for gasoline, either directly or indirectly. You don't have "all the social programs of Europe" because they don't fit in your mentality/way of living, and that's fine by me, but don't give us the crap that you can't afford them because you have to ensure cheap oil for the rest of the world!
This may have been by accident, but using the rover to flip a rock can also be done on purpose:
"Randy Lindemann knows all kinds of crazy stuff the rover can do. He describes using the rover to flip over a rock. You drive it over the rock so that the rock is between the two back wheels on one side. Then you drive all of the wheels backward except for that middle wheel, and as the middle wheel drags backward, its cleats catch the underside of the rock and flip it. If little Martian bugs crawl out, you win unlimited funding. "
On the other hand, kudos to Google for not using their dominance in mail, search, Android and other services/products for trying to push Schemer down the throats of their users. They had a product, it didn't fly on its own, it's OK for it to die. Which is not what other companies are doing with bloatware software on phones, tablets and laptops. Nobody got a killer app by doing this and the people at Google seem to realize this.
Only that aircraft altitude is measured across the globe in feet, regardless of the unit system valid in each country.
Indeed. Check out Brave New World, the "Cyprus experiment" (or something, it has been a while).
Well, "bad" literature will die, and that's a good thing, because it will reduce the amount of material that somebody needs to go through. In scientific literature, bad papers (i.e. with erroneous conclusions, obsolete models, etc) will get cited less and less and they will thus pass on into oblivion. Cheap novels are dying remarkably fast, and only the best material is remembered.
So, no need to get rid of bad material, or keep it from being created. The collective intelligence will take care of that!
Wooooosh!
And this is exactly how Fortran programmers like it. It keeps incompetent people from messing with our code.
If one armed UBR-1 pointed the way to cheaper robots, I would definitely go that way!
This is business. This is about saving face and national egos. It's about time we learned a little finesse in this area. It's something the Chinese do exceptionally well.
Wow! I better go make some pop-corn...
$5B as end price likely tickle through the economy as somethign like $30B total gross product. The tax on that alone is surely beyond $5B.
Hmm... How is this even possible when the suppliers, from the oil and ore up to the computers and the fuselage, all factored in their costs, profits and taxes in the price? Doesn't the $5B price include all that? The $5B will "tickle through the economy" exactly as $5B, unless some of the companies involved shut down because of this deal not happening. You could argue about the fact that Boeing will also not be manufacturing any spare parts, but this must be a comparably small amount.
What you wrote would have had better chances of making sense if the planes would have been used within the US, in which case they would have provided employment to military personnel, maintenance engineers etc. for many years. But this is not the case.
This is 2013 (almost 2014!) why are we talking about vectorization? Why don't people write code in vector notation in the first place anyway? If Matlab and Fortran could implement this 25 years ago, I am sure we are ready to move on now...
While I agree with you overall, I just want to comment on some specific points.
Paying for a fire department is actually an insurance. The profitability of insurance is debatable, but it makes sense enough so that people pay it, often voluntarily.
Education is most certainly profitable, since a lot of people are willing to save money or take loans in order to finance their education or that of their children (in Europe things are a bit different, but let's not make this too complicated). Education is an investment, made while hoping that it will enable you to get a better paying job in the future, thus making a profit in the long run.
Highways are profitable because they ease commerce. The profitability of selling goods, as well as getting people to work and getting raw materials to the factories is more than obvious.
Parks, playgrounds, clean streets and clean air and water are profitable because they add to a community's well-being, which in turn saves on the health-care bills (public health-care is also, like education, a touchy subject, but as I said, let's keep this simple).
My point is not that you are wrong or anything, it's just that we can look at almost anything from the profitability perspective, and it will still make sense. Science IMHO is very much like education, and should be funded. Science is very much profitable! Not only because it is the extrapolation of education, but for the very simple reason that it improves our everyday lives from new medicine to tech gadgets (which get sold and bought, making profit in the process!). And, more to the topic, exploration? Now, that's a profitable area, if I ever saw one! The problem with the GP's perspective is that he/she cannot see these things this way, which we can only change with a better education (which is why I think that education is a topic of national significance).
If you don't resist you may also get biscuits.
And by that, of course, he means cookies.