What is the difference between an unintentional mistake allowing an advasary to steal information vs intentional sabatoge?
For example assume Microsoft made an honest mistake in the RDP protocol allowing a US based TLA to discover and subsequently hoard a few RDP based root expliots.
While the manufacturer did not intentionally do this outcomes are essentially the same (State has secret capability) and so is the degredation of that capability whenever the state decides it is worth the cost to burn a secret as we have seen play out with stuxnet and flame.
Once you start down the road of paranoia the vista before you is effectivly infinite...with threat trees bigger than anything the Navi people can muster.
For all we know Chinese gov agents have infiltrated TSMC and uploaded order "66" to every piece of sillicon produced in these fabs over the last decade.
Until there is actually substantive evidence of sabatoge based on objective reality rather than paranoia or "its classified" my translation of the article reads as follows:
Be afraid...be very afraid... to be safe buy only from US firms who have donated to our reelection campaigns.
What "technical solution" do you see to visible light being shown through a window? And how could you make it commercially viable to every aircraft in the sky? Brainstorm it. If you find something, great, but that's a pretty damned huge problem.
Just stick a thin, cheap transparent LCD layer onto the cockpit glass. When harmful beam of light is detected it automatically switches on to block harmful porton of that light from being let thru.
This same technology is available today in consumer sunglasses (Basically a dynamic coronagraph) not rocket science or something that will break the bank if your determined to develop a technical solution to this problem.
The one thing that really scares me is the not the consumer laser pointers used as toys by idiots but UV lasers in hands of bad guys with an agenda.
I don't think it is entirely appropriate to look at the cost benefit equation only in terms of a public nuisance with low probability of any significant harm being done.
Or maybe they all have Mr Fusions and are quite happy to scoop up hydrogen by splitting water, mineing other planets, asteroids... or sucking it out of the ISM.
With all this talk about energy what if instead of a sphere of solar collectors it were an array of gyro mirrors which could be controlled in such a way apparent luminocity changes slightly yet enough for a signal to be broadcasted over massive distances?
This seems like a more pluasable and exciting idea to me than having to deal with collection and distribution of energy. After all Mr Fusion may prove to be much more convinent than solar arrays especially if there is any significant interplanetary traffic between terraformed worlds.
All this talk about "breaking" the speed barrier and how fast this car goes with not one sentance devoted anywhere to how this thing stops reminds me of an earlier darwin award involving JATOs.
At 1050 MPH if course is perfectly flat at same alt you have between 6 to 15 seconds depending on height of obstruction to change course after any object can even be detected by any sort of optics over the horizon.
In one interpretation of quantum mechanics that means that the cat exists in a combination of both states prior to observing it.
The only thing in any sort of superposition is the measuring device. The hammer which breaks the beaker of cat poison, the beaker breaking and the cat dieing are not part of the superposition. They are all separate events but whatever it all sounds much better if you make mystical claims.
Observing it causes one or the other of the states to prevail.
No it is "disturbing" not "observing"... just more unecessary mysticism to make understanding basic ideas seem more difficult than they actually are.
I think you missed the whole point of the thought experiment. No, the cat is decidedly not already dead when you peeked. It is the moment of your peeking that picks a state for the cat.
The worst ever "thought experiment" by far is Schrodinger's cat. To say a living cat was ever in a superposition of alive or dead is wrong and stupid. These words only confuse people unecessarily.
No cat was never a participant in any coherent quantum system only the measuring device which **triggers** death of the cat had anything to do with the quantum system.
Asking if a tree still falls in the forest if nobody sees it is about as instructive as the cat in the box analogy.
Which, of course, means that the summary is meaningless. I'll go read TFA, and, more likely, then consult with a Physics Phd I know to try and make (relative) sense of this discovery.
Nothing at all has been "discovered". All they did was physically implement something for which the properties have been calculated and well understood for many many decades.
The security industrial complex is like locusts stealing our money and scaring us into being happy about turning this country into an extra-constitutional police state.
I personally don't give a damn to hear they are ineffective. Even if their illegal activities were effective it would not change my opinion in the slightest.
To assume ends justify the means is admission of moral bankruptcy.
An electon is coming up soon.. tell your representitives "Nuke em.. Let's nuke the bastards".. do your part to advert a DHS locust invasion today.
You can ship the screen in the code, but if you never show it to users what good is it then? Microsoft admits they didn't comply, so what's the problem with the EU fining Microsoft?
A billion dollars for a browser choice dialouge? It is beyond my comphrension how this could be considered rational or acceptable in any way.
Why not make it a trillion dollar fine and fill out interpols most wanted roster with Microsoft employees?
Pretty sure these folks has not used it enough to realize the advantages. They probably picked more from all the anti writers about it. Nothing is lost from Windows 7, and lot to gain. Its a trash survey
Except that it's not really a buggy product. I use Windows 8 every day, and I have never encountered anything that I would attribute to a bug in the OS.
Sure, some of the drivers are still a little buggy, but those are the vendors responsibility. The same was true when Vista and 7 and XP and 2000 were released. This improves drastically in the first few months.
No user gives a flying rats ass about the distinction between drivers and the operating system. It either works or it don't.
But, each time, if you stick with it for a bit, you get familiar with new interface. You pick it up just as you did with the old one--and you even start to realize the advantages of the new layout versus the old. Sorry, Slashdot, but this is FUD and you're guilty of spreading it.
Wouldst thou care to enumerate?
You know your argument is in trouble when your line of thinking is impossible to falisfy. Microsoft could change Windows NT 3.51 to Windows 2014 then someone could slap on your same argument as justification. You don't like? Sorry pal your just spreading FUD and BTW you are a change adverse dinosaur.
Rather than speaking in the abstract about adversity to change and people liking what they are used to it would really be helpful if instead people actually bothered to enumerate what makes the new system better for desktop users.
Actually, you're wrong but not in a good way. After Vietnam Congress passed the War Powers Act which was supposed to severely limit the president's ability to wage war.
I hate war but I hate bullshit too. The presidents power to be commander and chief comes from the constitution. You can't pass a law that constrains the presidents power under the constitution without changing the constitution. The supremacy clause still applies no matter what any law you pass says to the contrary.
So, unfortuneatly, the part your're wrong about is that Congress has to do anything at all. They've already ceded power to the president when it comes to war. Now, to me, this is an over delegation of authority and is unconstitutional. The power to declare war was vested in Congress for a reason
If congress really cared to stop a military action authorized by the president they have the power to withdraw funding for any and all foreign adventures. I've seen members of congress consistantly throwing fits and crying for public consumption. If they genuinely cared they would use their power to withdraw funds for the action.
F'n idiot bureaucrats treating cyber as if it is analogous to the real world.
If you thought DNSSEC was pure awesome tool to amplify your DDOS attacks kids just wait till you get to direct US government resources to attack your targets for you. Won't that be swell?
If you ever tire of getting your "friends" swatted at 3:00 in the morning just for laughs uncle sam has your back.
The picture represents only about 2 minutes of arc on the sky.. For comparison a fist stretched out twoard the sky consumes about 10 degrees of arc (1 degree = 60 minutes).
If you imagine the height of the outstreched fist the entire picture was taken from an area 300 times smaller.
I have some compact floresent bulbs and normal florescents in the basement, garage, kitchen and outside fixtures. Newer CFLs work good and seem to last longer than their older counterparts. Previously CFLs did not tolerate cold as mentioned on the label and would die every winter.
In some fixtures in the house I use real light bulbs since I don't know what else to do.
In my bedroom I tried CFLs but the shortwave turns into garbage when they are switched on.
I have traditionally not used LEDs since light looks crummy to me and there is concern over the blue spike in the output spectrum "blue light hazard" causing eye damage due to prolonged exposure.
CFLs contain mercury and they get thrown in the trash and cost more energy to produce than normal bulbs.
Newer LEDs are using phosphors like CFLs to convert spectrum into something much better. Only problem is they are still insanly expensive the last time I looked.
In bathroom and various chandeliers these options would spoil the effect and never see use enough hours in the day to add any noticable contribution to utility usage.
There are aniche uses of ineffecent light bulbs as intentional heaters to prevent snow and moisture buildup or to keep engine compartments from dropping below freezing.
I fully support increasing effeciency but forcing people to do something they don't want to do is rarely the right or productive way to get there as evidenced by the "hoarding" reaction.
The resistance is in my view a reflection of an immature market. Prices need to come down, technical issues need to be fixed and the bill of materials needs to reduced so that an honest assessment can be made given the ENTIRE lifecycle of the product rather than cherry picking energy cost to light these things.
Hey PM dude...like you know this shit aint going to happen.
The same way our congress will never pass a bill instating performance based pay of themselves or the president (Specifically prohibited by constitution).
Perhaps if you...you...know...... LEAD.. actually did something positive to improve the lives of your citizens in your own country you would not have found yourself in a position of having to scrape and claw for legitimacy by means of anti-west/whatever rants designed exclusivly for local consumption.
This film thing is a pathetic excuse to cover for your own abysmal lack of gumption.
If scientists don't like kids having helium ballons they should figure out how to make cheap vacuum ballons to replace helium. With this approach everyone wins.
And it could very well be scientists won't win afterall... if demand is sufficiently reduced supply will follow they may actually end up needing to pay more to foot the bill for infustructure necessary for production and processing parents have been helping with all these years.
As long as civilization continues to mine huge amounts of hydrocarbons from within the earth helium will continue to be cheap. As the cost rises more effort shall be placed into increasing recovery effeciency. When this practice eventually stops or shrinks the price of helium will skyrocket and your kids won't get no stinkin helium balloon because YOU won't be able to afford one.
The specifics of current US production are no different than Chinas monopoly on rare earth production... If the US supply went away others can and will step in to fill the void.
I can almost see the radio gear and home made antennas being carefully carried out of the u-haul van as Sir Firstenberg's new neighbors move in and make themselves at home.
So what? We observe stars and shit moving hundreds to thousands of times faster than light realitive to ourselves all the time.
Actually, we don't. Only the expansion of the universe causes galaxies to recede from us faster than the speed of light - and they're unobservable for that very reason.
This is a common misunderstanding. We are able to see further than the hubble sphere because scale is changing in flight.
If I remember correctly speeds of thousands of times the speed of light have been observed as measured by red shift.
Think about coercion, "open the doors or we start killing people."
9/11 itself did more to solve this problem than any measure implemented by any three letter agency and billions of taxpayer dollars wasted since.
If you think people are going to tolerate this sort of aggression without instantly rising up and bum rushing you then you have not been paying attention.
Or, the well-known fact that every lock can be broken with tools as simple as a paper clip or a drill.
There has never been an "expert" linked to Monsanto that has stated any negative opinion of a Monsanto product *ever.* It's pretty much in their contract.
*IF* I were the conspiratorial type I would give anything to be a fly on the wall when these same experts enter the grocery store to buy food for themselves and their family.
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What is the difference between an unintentional mistake allowing an advasary to steal information vs intentional sabatoge?
For example assume Microsoft made an honest mistake in the RDP protocol allowing a US based TLA to discover and subsequently hoard a few RDP based root expliots.
While the manufacturer did not intentionally do this outcomes are essentially the same (State has secret capability) and so is the degredation of that capability whenever the state decides it is worth the cost to burn a secret as we have seen play out with stuxnet and flame.
Once you start down the road of paranoia the vista before you is effectivly infinite...with threat trees bigger than anything the Navi people can muster.
For all we know Chinese gov agents have infiltrated TSMC and uploaded order "66" to every piece of sillicon produced in these fabs over the last decade.
Until there is actually substantive evidence of sabatoge based on objective reality rather than paranoia or "its classified" my translation of the article reads as follows:
Be afraid...be very afraid... to be safe buy only from US firms who have donated to our reelection campaigns.
What "technical solution" do you see to visible light being shown through a window? And how could you make it commercially viable to every aircraft in the sky? Brainstorm it. If you find something, great, but that's a pretty damned huge problem.
Just stick a thin, cheap transparent LCD layer onto the cockpit glass. When harmful beam of light is detected it automatically switches on to block harmful porton of that light from being let thru.
This same technology is available today in consumer sunglasses (Basically a dynamic coronagraph) not rocket science or something that will break the bank if your determined to develop a technical solution to this problem.
The one thing that really scares me is the not the consumer laser pointers used as toys by idiots but UV lasers in hands of bad guys with an agenda.
I don't think it is entirely appropriate to look at the cost benefit equation only in terms of a public nuisance with low probability of any significant harm being done.
Or maybe they all have Mr Fusions and are quite happy to scoop up hydrogen by splitting water, mineing other planets, asteroids... or sucking it out of the ISM.
With all this talk about energy what if instead of a sphere of solar collectors it were an array of gyro mirrors which could be controlled in such a way apparent luminocity changes slightly yet enough for a signal to be broadcasted over massive distances?
This seems like a more pluasable and exciting idea to me than having to deal with collection and distribution of energy. After all Mr Fusion may prove to be much more convinent than solar arrays especially if there is any significant interplanetary traffic between terraformed worlds.
All this talk about "breaking" the speed barrier and how fast this car goes with not one sentance devoted anywhere to how this thing stops reminds me of an earlier darwin award involving JATOs.
At 1050 MPH if course is perfectly flat at same alt you have between 6 to 15 seconds depending on height of obstruction to change course after any object can even be detected by any sort of optics over the horizon.
In one interpretation of quantum mechanics that means that the cat exists in a combination of both states prior to observing it.
The only thing in any sort of superposition is the measuring device. The hammer which breaks the beaker of cat poison, the beaker breaking and the cat dieing are not part of the superposition. They are all separate events but whatever it all sounds much better if you make mystical claims.
Observing it causes one or the other of the states to prevail.
No it is "disturbing" not "observing" ... just more unecessary mysticism to make understanding basic ideas seem more difficult than they actually are.
I think you missed the whole point of the thought experiment. No, the cat is decidedly not already dead when you peeked. It is the moment of your peeking that picks a state for the cat.
The worst ever "thought experiment" by far is Schrodinger's cat. To say a living cat was ever in a superposition of alive or dead is wrong and stupid. These words only confuse people unecessarily.
No cat was never a participant in any coherent quantum system only the measuring device which **triggers** death of the cat had anything to do with the quantum system.
Asking if a tree still falls in the forest if nobody sees it is about as instructive as the cat in the box analogy.
Which, of course, means that the summary is meaningless. I'll go read TFA, and, more likely, then consult with a Physics Phd I know to try and make (relative) sense of this discovery.
Nothing at all has been "discovered". All they did was physically implement something for which the properties have been calculated and well understood for many many decades.
The security industrial complex is like locusts stealing our money and scaring us into being happy about turning this country into an extra-constitutional police state.
I personally don't give a damn to hear they are ineffective. Even if their illegal activities were effective it would not change my opinion in the slightest.
To assume ends justify the means is admission of moral bankruptcy.
An electon is coming up soon.. tell your representitives "Nuke em .. Let's nuke the bastards".. do your part to advert a DHS locust invasion today.
You can ship the screen in the code, but if you never show it to users what good is it then? Microsoft admits they didn't comply, so what's the problem with the EU fining Microsoft?
A billion dollars for a browser choice dialouge? It is beyond my comphrension how this could be considered rational or acceptable in any way.
Why not make it a trillion dollar fine and fill out interpols most wanted roster with Microsoft employees?
That doesn't change the fact that Microsoft is not responsible for vendors drivers. They can only be responsible for drivers they include.
No but it does make your statement irrelevant.
If my toaster does not work with windows 8 guess who I as an end user is going to blame?
TFA read like a breakup with one side telling their story while the other side was not allowed to speak.
What is most telling to me is the authors willingness to judge and place blaim on others while demonstrating his own lack of leadership.
Pretty sure these folks has not used it enough to realize the advantages. They probably picked more from all the anti writers about it. Nothing is lost from Windows 7, and lot to gain. Its a trash survey
Care to enumerate the gains you experienced?
Except that it's not really a buggy product. I use Windows 8 every day, and I have never encountered anything that I would attribute to a bug in the OS.
Sure, some of the drivers are still a little buggy, but those are the vendors responsibility. The same was true when Vista and 7 and XP and 2000 were released. This improves drastically in the first few months.
No user gives a flying rats ass about the distinction between drivers and the operating system. It either works or it don't.
But, each time, if you stick with it for a bit, you get familiar with new interface. You pick it up just as you did with the old one--and you even start to realize the advantages of the new layout versus the old. Sorry, Slashdot, but this is FUD and you're guilty of spreading it.
Wouldst thou care to enumerate?
You know your argument is in trouble when your line of thinking is impossible to falisfy. Microsoft could change Windows NT 3.51 to Windows 2014 then someone could slap on your same argument as justification. You don't like? Sorry pal your just spreading FUD and BTW you are a change adverse dinosaur.
Rather than speaking in the abstract about adversity to change and people liking what they are used to it would really be helpful if instead people actually bothered to enumerate what makes the new system better for desktop users.
Actually, you're wrong but not in a good way. After Vietnam Congress passed the War Powers Act which was supposed to severely limit the president's ability to wage war.
I hate war but I hate bullshit too. The presidents power to be commander and chief comes from the constitution. You can't pass a law that constrains the presidents power under the constitution without changing the constitution. The supremacy clause still applies no matter what any law you pass says to the contrary.
So, unfortuneatly, the part your're wrong about is that Congress has to do anything at all. They've already ceded power to the president when it comes to war. Now, to me, this is an over delegation of authority and is unconstitutional. The power to declare war was vested in Congress for a reason
If congress really cared to stop a military action authorized by the president they have the power to withdraw funding for any and all foreign adventures. I've seen members of congress consistantly throwing fits and crying for public consumption. If they genuinely cared they would use their power to withdraw funds for the action.
I couldn't think of a better call for donations and support for wikileaks than to have my government demonstrating Assanges central points for him.
F'n idiot bureaucrats treating cyber as if it is analogous to the real world.
If you thought DNSSEC was pure awesome tool to amplify your DDOS attacks kids just wait till you get to direct US government resources to attack your targets for you. Won't that be swell?
If you ever tire of getting your "friends" swatted at 3:00 in the morning just for laughs uncle sam has your back.
The picture represents only about 2 minutes of arc on the sky.. For comparison a fist stretched out twoard the sky consumes about 10 degrees of arc (1 degree = 60 minutes).
If you imagine the height of the outstreched fist the entire picture was taken from an area 300 times smaller.
You are confusing "enrichment" with "reprocessing".
I have some compact floresent bulbs and normal florescents in the basement, garage, kitchen and outside fixtures. Newer CFLs work good and seem to last longer than their older counterparts. Previously CFLs did not tolerate cold as mentioned on the label and would die every winter.
In some fixtures in the house I use real light bulbs since I don't know what else to do.
In my bedroom I tried CFLs but the shortwave turns into garbage when they are switched on.
I have traditionally not used LEDs since light looks crummy to me and there is concern over the blue spike in the output spectrum "blue light hazard" causing eye damage due to prolonged exposure.
CFLs contain mercury and they get thrown in the trash and cost more energy to produce than normal bulbs.
Newer LEDs are using phosphors like CFLs to convert spectrum into something much better. Only problem is they are still insanly expensive the last time I looked.
In bathroom and various chandeliers these options would spoil the effect and never see use enough hours in the day to add any noticable contribution to utility usage.
There are aniche uses of ineffecent light bulbs as intentional heaters to prevent snow and moisture buildup or to keep engine compartments from dropping below freezing.
I fully support increasing effeciency but forcing people to do something they don't want to do is rarely the right or productive way to get there as evidenced by the "hoarding" reaction.
The resistance is in my view a reflection of an immature market. Prices need to come down, technical issues need to be fixed and the bill of materials needs to reduced so that an honest assessment can be made given the ENTIRE lifecycle of the product rather than cherry picking energy cost to light these things.
Hey PM dude...like you know this shit aint going to happen.
The same way our congress will never pass a bill instating performance based pay of themselves or the president (Specifically prohibited by constitution).
Perhaps if you ...you...know...... LEAD.. actually did something positive to improve the lives of your citizens in your own country you would not have found yourself in a position of having to scrape and claw for legitimacy by means of anti-west/whatever rants designed exclusivly for local consumption.
This film thing is a pathetic excuse to cover for your own abysmal lack of gumption.
If scientists don't like kids having helium ballons they should figure out how to make cheap vacuum ballons to replace helium. With this approach everyone wins.
And it could very well be scientists won't win afterall... if demand is sufficiently reduced supply will follow they may actually end up needing to pay more to foot the bill for infustructure necessary for production and processing parents have been helping with all these years.
As long as civilization continues to mine huge amounts of hydrocarbons from within the earth helium will continue to be cheap. As the cost rises more effort shall be placed into increasing recovery effeciency. When this practice eventually stops or shrinks the price of helium will skyrocket and your kids won't get no stinkin helium balloon because YOU won't be able to afford one.
The specifics of current US production are no different than Chinas monopoly on rare earth production... If the US supply went away others can and will step in to fill the void.
I can almost see the radio gear and home made antennas being carefully carried out of the u-haul van as Sir Firstenberg's new neighbors move in and make themselves at home.
A man can dream...
So what? We observe stars and shit moving hundreds to thousands of times faster than light realitive to ourselves all the time.
Actually, we don't. Only the expansion of the universe causes galaxies to recede from us faster than the speed of light - and they're unobservable for that very reason.
This is a common misunderstanding. We are able to see further than the hubble sphere because scale is changing in flight.
If I remember correctly speeds of thousands of times the speed of light have been observed as measured by red shift.
Think about coercion, "open the doors or we start killing people."
9/11 itself did more to solve this problem than any measure implemented by any three letter agency and billions of taxpayer dollars wasted since.
If you think people are going to tolerate this sort of aggression without instantly rising up and bum rushing you then you have not been paying attention.
Or, the well-known fact that every lock can be broken with tools as simple as a paper clip or a drill.
LOL you've got about 5 seconds.
There has never been an "expert" linked to Monsanto that has stated any negative opinion of a Monsanto product *ever.*
It's pretty much in their contract.
*IF* I were the conspiratorial type I would give anything to be a fly on the wall when these same experts enter the grocery store to buy food for themselves and their family.