I'm just talking about working age from 18 onwards, for me education until 18 is sacrosanct. A lot of brexiters seem to think that all immigrants are on the dole or claiming benefits, getting housing etc from the minute they land and that would completely dispel that myth and it should get those that think they can coast on leaving school an incentive to find work.
"I accept that immigration does need to be managed better than it has been. Not stopped or reduced, just managed to alleviate some of the short term problems." the best thing they could do is stop everyone (with some exceptions) getting anything from the social security system until they've paid into it for 5 years - that should include the british population too - might encourage them to fill the jobs that migrants have to fill
" In fact some countries did have just such controls, but the UK decided not to implement them." - correct, a fact lost on brexiters (amongst millions of others) that its the UKs fault and not the EUs
"When you have to compete for work with cheap European labour and wages depress as a result, the economy isn't really working for you in the first place." low skilled jobs are minimum wage so its competing work ethics not wages.
"So why not vote for change. It doesn't feel it can get any worse." vote for change when you understand the issues, don't knee-jerk into chaos - the successive Uk governments are your enemy due to incompetence so shoot the correct target and its not the EU.
"I understand that half of the residents of my country's capital city are born outside of the country." - and what a successful city (and other cities too) it is subsidising most of the rest of the UK with its tax revenues. Enterprising areas attract enterprising people and most immigrants are enterprising enough to go where they can develop. Bear in mind virually everyone in the UK has immigrant blood since the Roman times.
"I understand that a million economic migrants were welcomed by Germany and will soon be eligible to come to my country - and we can't stop them." the daily mail and farage cannot see the difference between a refugee and an immigrant because it doesn't suit their purposes to inflame the masses.
"I understand that the EU fails to apply its own rules on immigration, resulting in millions of Africans traversing Europe instead of being correctly assessed and accepted or rejected in Greece." see previous comment
"I understand that France demands that the UK pay for its Calais migrant facilities, instead of acknowledging that these people are in France and should fucking well stay there." they want to get here so why should France pay to police them? It the usual brexit ploy of "let everyone else do the work/suffer the consequences as long as I don't have to". We haven't seen any brexiters running over to help the farmers as yet
the UK has control of non-EU immigration and its still brings in more immigrants than we get from the EU. the job vacancies dictate the skills we need and they fill it because the lazy home grown population doesn't want to work in jobs they think they are too upmarket for.
"It's not coincidence that many of these areas voted so heavily to leave the EU." - and its the wrong target as usual so they shoot themselves in the foot yet again
If its too hot in the kitchen then they should get out instead of foisting their dodgy morals on others.
God also command the total extermination / genocide of the Canaanites, women and children included etc etc so the bible is not a paragon of good words/deeds
"particular morals." - in the religious case its generally "peculiar morals" - picking and choosing according to their own form of bigotry. keep religion in your own head and out of every other place except a church then we'll have real equality.
"Regardless, the nickel-iron would be the best and safest for a power plant for the long haul for the obvious reasons I stated above" - sounds like a new business opportunity for you.
The christians in trumps government seem to be intent on rolling back as many health reforms for women and removing equality for all because their religion says so to show that some christians still haven't entered the 20th century yet.
extreme left and extreme right are 2 sides of the same coin. both think they are the smartest and know the best way to do everything is their bigoted way.
China knows the problem they have and politically is heading in the correct direction whereas trump is not. Unfortunately China is a huge barge that will take a while to turn around. Per capita is the way to compare because because of the size of the populations, if you don't then you just encourage complacency and have no desire to improve. I guess you understand that as your links do show China per capita usage is one third of USA per capita usage even though their market growth rate over the last decade or so is so much higher than virtually anyone else.
Noticed you didn;t list any drawbacks of fossil fuel energy.
"Wind farms kill birds" - overblown negative - loads of birds die flying into vehicles, cats kill millions more birds than all the turbines. All farms require a lot of land, at least with solar panels you can still have sheep on the same land to keep the grass cut and provide shade for the sheep.
"Any energy source, if replicated at extremely large scales, will have major undesirable side effects." - Major - certainly in the form of fossil power generation. Thats why a load of solar panels on all buildings with storage (where possible) connected to local but interconnected micro grids creating distributed power generation is the way to go.
"Just like with investing money...don't put all your eggs in one basket." - agreed.
damn.. not Iran, Islam. Islam destroyed they science advances of the middle east when they were well ahead of the west.
Not surprising when Trump is trying to emulate Iran
I'm just talking about working age from 18 onwards, for me education until 18 is sacrosanct. A lot of brexiters seem to think that all immigrants are on the dole or claiming benefits, getting housing etc from the minute they land and that would completely dispel that myth and it should get those that think they can coast on leaving school an incentive to find work.
Thats why i said "(with some exceptions)". i don;t see why anyone else should get out of the system unless they put into it
"I accept that immigration does need to be managed better than it has been. Not stopped or reduced, just managed to alleviate some of the short term problems." the best thing they could do is stop everyone (with some exceptions) getting anything from the social security system until they've paid into it for 5 years - that should include the british population too - might encourage them to fill the jobs that migrants have to fill
not for much longer, its automating fast https://www.techrepublic.com/a...
" In fact some countries did have just such controls, but the UK decided not to implement them." - correct, a fact lost on brexiters (amongst millions of others) that its the UKs fault and not the EUs
"When you have to compete for work with cheap European labour and wages depress as a result, the economy isn't really working for you in the first place." low skilled jobs are minimum wage so its competing work ethics not wages.
"So why not vote for change. It doesn't feel it can get any worse." vote for change when you understand the issues, don't knee-jerk into chaos - the successive Uk governments are your enemy due to incompetence so shoot the correct target and its not the EU.
"I understand that half of the residents of my country's capital city are born outside of the country." - and what a successful city (and other cities too) it is subsidising most of the rest of the UK with its tax revenues. Enterprising areas attract enterprising people and most immigrants are enterprising enough to go where they can develop. Bear in mind virually everyone in the UK has immigrant blood since the Roman times.
"I understand that a million economic migrants were welcomed by Germany and will soon be eligible to come to my country - and we can't stop them." the daily mail and farage cannot see the difference between a refugee and an immigrant because it doesn't suit their purposes to inflame the masses.
"I understand that the EU fails to apply its own rules on immigration, resulting in millions of Africans traversing Europe instead of being correctly assessed and accepted or rejected in Greece." see previous comment
"I understand that France demands that the UK pay for its Calais migrant facilities, instead of acknowledging that these people are in France and should fucking well stay there." they want to get here so why should France pay to police them? It the usual brexit ploy of "let everyone else do the work/suffer the consequences as long as I don't have to". We haven't seen any brexiters running over to help the farmers as yet
the UK has control of non-EU immigration and its still brings in more immigrants than we get from the EU. the job vacancies dictate the skills we need and they fill it because the lazy home grown population doesn't want to work in jobs they think they are too upmarket for.
"It's not coincidence that many of these areas voted so heavily to leave the EU." - and its the wrong target as usual so they shoot themselves in the foot yet again
If its too hot in the kitchen then they should get out instead of foisting their dodgy morals on others.
God also command the total extermination / genocide of the Canaanites, women and children included etc etc so the bible is not a paragon of good words/deeds
"particular morals." - in the religious case its generally "peculiar morals" - picking and choosing according to their own form of bigotry. keep religion in your own head and out of every other place except a church then we'll have real equality.
"Regardless, the nickel-iron would be the best and safest for a power plant for the long haul for the obvious reasons I stated above" - sounds like a new business opportunity for you.
The christians in trumps government seem to be intent on rolling back as many health reforms for women and removing equality for all because their religion says so to show that some christians still haven't entered the 20th century yet.
extreme left and extreme right are 2 sides of the same coin. both think they are the smartest and know the best way to do everything is their bigoted way.
post all your research and proof of that research and we'll read it
you'd be starving to death after you've eaten the last corpse in the world fight to get water when there is nothing growing anymore
don't you just love armchair experts...
If humans are no better than a machine then how can a machine programmed by humans do any better
I don't think i want to walk out into the street to pick up my pizza when its raining/snowing. I want a delivery to the door.
In the UK, when the wind is "right" we occasionally get covered in sahara sand
indeed, flat as a pancake.. i guess now he'll be falling back onto that as an excuse
China knows the problem they have and politically is heading in the correct direction whereas trump is not. Unfortunately China is a huge barge that will take a while to turn around. Per capita is the way to compare because because of the size of the populations, if you don't then you just encourage complacency and have no desire to improve. I guess you understand that as your links do show China per capita usage is one third of USA per capita usage even though their market growth rate over the last decade or so is so much higher than virtually anyone else.
thats because you forget the subsidies also given to the fossil fuel industry in various forms for 100+ years
Noticed you didn;t list any drawbacks of fossil fuel energy.
"Wind farms kill birds" - overblown negative - loads of birds die flying into vehicles, cats kill millions more birds than all the turbines. All farms require a lot of land, at least with solar panels you can still have sheep on the same land to keep the grass cut and provide shade for the sheep.
"Any energy source, if replicated at extremely large scales, will have major undesirable side effects." - Major - certainly in the form of fossil power generation. Thats why a load of solar panels on all buildings with storage (where possible) connected to local but interconnected micro grids creating distributed power generation is the way to go.
"Just like with investing money...don't put all your eggs in one basket." - agreed.