you have portrayed a picture painting php as a very simple language, as if being simple was something bad.
therefore i cited the ibm example, which shows how complex constructs can be used to perform various duties in an object setting.
the blandness/complexness of a language can be understood from the simplest building block and on. with simple building blocks, extremely complicated logical constructs can be created. i could take the simple if construct you belittled and create an immensely complex set of logical constructs and routines over it. there are php apps that span 30,000 lines and perform immensely complex set of tasks, and sold from $20-30 k price range. yet you dont know shit about these.
i called you an elitist, i overdid it. sorry. you are very probably young, and you are a wannabee yet. when you work enough in industry, complete projects, you will eventually learn many of the stuff above and many more that i cant spare time to talk about here.
see what it does in ultimate end ? companies end up trying to fuck each other, instead of competing for providing cheaper and more quality goods and services.
free market capitalism, patents and copyrights work well only during 'wild west' frontier eras of economies or technologies. just like in the early days of usa, in the early days of scientific age, or in the early days of the internet era.
when the market stabilizes, companies proceed to fuck each other for control, and the winner of the hierarchy of power proceeds to fuck customers.
current state, durability, immunity, strength of homo sapiens sapiens bodies are not able to cope up with going fully medieval in lifestyle, leave aside going neolithic or caveman. in many respects, including but not limited to herd immunity.
and yea, that would be an extinction level event, if we were forced back to middle ages.
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it is better to teach these using a language they WILL use when they actually get into industry, than with stuff they may rarely come up against.
You sound as if you believe that they will be using C and PHP in the industry.
While both C and PHP have strong roles in the industry, they have become narrow use languages. The overlap with other languages favors those other languages in nearly every case. For example, I don't look for a C programmer when I need database work done, even though C is certainly more than capable.
i am currently coding in php with numerous projects waiting the completion of this one, and i dont see it being any kind of 'narrow use' language. it is as narrow as the web.
to teach them hypothetical skills in watered down, obscure platforms so they can curse you for the rest of their lives when they start working in the industry.
i was taught fortran and pascal. i dont remember shit, and i dont think i gained much from them.
programming can be taught with any language. problem solving can be taught with any language. it is better to teach these using a language they WILL use when they actually get into industry, than with stuff they may rarely come up against.
uk was going down the drain for some years. i see this as another absurd jacobinism.
i mean, for all its faults, you can still play diablo 1 online without any issues with blizzard. yet, halo, itself a very popular game today, got its multiplayer support dropped.
content over container. there is much to say in this world, yet not enough time.
And whose country is "his" country referring to? Would that be you? If so, you should really watch a little more Seinfeld so you could use the 'third person' self-reference properly as in "George's country!".
his country is usa. my country is turkey.
and i dont give a shit about grammar or creative writing as long as the person who takes the time to read understands what i say.
the 'grind' is built into the eastern culture. but, because it is a part of everyday culture, they are not leaving out the fun factor in anything. just like their own life. in the west however, the needs and wants of the individuals and the aspirations of the culture do not match.
its their fault. after all these years one would think that people would have realized - never entrust anything with microsoft. theyll pull the plug on you if they think they are not having what they want, and it just needs decision of an mid upper level manager. they have got away with all the stunts they pulled up till today, so they are not hesitant in doing this over and over. they dont worry about PR at all.
dont get worked up - noone needs to recount all the stunts they pulled on their partners and customers in order not to be considered trolling anymore. it has become irrelevant.
you are forgetting multiple choice - multiple ending storylines and open ended games. and a game having an ending does not necessarily get mandated by existence of a storyline. just check x3 terran conflict
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all i see is an attempt to make strangling the users under strict control seem sympathetic or convenient. this is all there is to about it.
no fool.
you have portrayed a picture painting php as a very simple language, as if being simple was something bad.
therefore i cited the ibm example, which shows how complex constructs can be used to perform various duties in an object setting.
the blandness/complexness of a language can be understood from the simplest building block and on. with simple building blocks, extremely complicated logical constructs can be created. i could take the simple if construct you belittled and create an immensely complex set of logical constructs and routines over it. there are php apps that span 30,000 lines and perform immensely complex set of tasks, and sold from $20-30 k price range. yet you dont know shit about these.
i called you an elitist, i overdid it. sorry. you are very probably young, and you are a wannabee yet. when you work enough in industry, complete projects, you will eventually learn many of the stuff above and many more that i cant spare time to talk about here.
see what it does in ultimate end ? companies end up trying to fuck each other, instead of competing for providing cheaper and more quality goods and services.
free market capitalism, patents and copyrights work well only during 'wild west' frontier eras of economies or technologies. just like in the early days of usa, in the early days of scientific age, or in the early days of the internet era.
when the market stabilizes, companies proceed to fuck each other for control, and the winner of the hierarchy of power proceeds to fuck customers.
current state, durability, immunity, strength of homo sapiens sapiens bodies are not able to cope up with going fully medieval in lifestyle, leave aside going neolithic or caveman. in many respects, including but not limited to herd immunity.
and yea, that would be an extinction level event, if we were forced back to middle ages.
that word becomes mainstream. people make languages, and internet is people.
yea it is.
and you should spare us your talking bullshit without things you dont know enough about.
after all, 10 do something 20 goto 10 can define basic in that respect.
what you are doing is pricky ignorant elitism. ironic that ibm doesnt think like you do.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-php-7oohabits/
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yea. and we need bazillions of computer 'scientists' in the industry, as can be seen from the hirings ............. not.
it is better to teach these using a language they WILL use when they actually get into industry, than with stuff they may rarely come up against.
You sound as if you believe that they will be using C and PHP in the industry.
While both C and PHP have strong roles in the industry, they have become narrow use languages. The overlap with other languages favors those other languages in nearly every case. For example, I don't look for a C programmer when I need database work done, even though C is certainly more than capable.
i am currently coding in php with numerous projects waiting the completion of this one, and i dont see it being any kind of 'narrow use' language. it is as narrow as the web.
anyone who trusts microsoft, sony, apple dig their own grave.
to teach them hypothetical skills in watered down, obscure platforms so they can curse you for the rest of their lives when they start working in the industry.
i was taught fortran and pascal. i dont remember shit, and i dont think i gained much from them.
programming can be taught with any language. problem solving can be taught with any language. it is better to teach these using a language they WILL use when they actually get into industry, than with stuff they may rarely come up against.
uk was going down the drain for some years. i see this as another absurd jacobinism.
anything that Eu does now have to be approved by the Eu parliament. If parl doesnt approve it, it cant happen.
i mean, for all its faults, you can still play diablo 1 online without any issues with blizzard. yet, halo, itself a very popular game today, got its multiplayer support dropped.
huh ? is it even legal ? leave aside ethical ?
first they almost take out thomas jefferson from texas school books because he was not pro-religion enough, and then this. tells volumes.
...
im not american, and i know about these. so go figure
I remember seeing this all the time with NWN mods based on Tolkien's work, a couple of them shut down for fear of being sued by Tolkien's estate.
that the heirs of the guy who wrote about a struggle against an evil overlord residing in a castle, became very much like that overlord themselves.
And whose country is "his" country referring to? Would that be you? If so, you should really watch a little more Seinfeld so you could use the 'third person' self-reference properly as in "George's country!".
his country is usa. my country is turkey.
and i dont give a shit about grammar or creative writing as long as the person who takes the time to read understands what i say.
hahahaa. says the stereotyping american with his 'parent's basement' bullshit, while not having even served time in his country's military.
because we need a fucking free internet so that mega cartels wont make it into another cable tv clone.
by blood or by words if necessary. that is as important as any independence struggle in the history of universe.
simplicity.
First, learn how to capitalize the beginning of your sentences.
dont read if you dont want to.
it happens in any country.
the 'grind' is built into the eastern culture. but, because it is a part of everyday culture, they are not leaving out the fun factor in anything. just like their own life. in the west however, the needs and wants of the individuals and the aspirations of the culture do not match.
its their fault. after all these years one would think that people would have realized - never entrust anything with microsoft. theyll pull the plug on you if they think they are not having what they want, and it just needs decision of an mid upper level manager. they have got away with all the stunts they pulled up till today, so they are not hesitant in doing this over and over. they dont worry about PR at all.
dont get worked up - noone needs to recount all the stunts they pulled on their partners and customers in order not to be considered trolling anymore. it has become irrelevant.
you are forgetting multiple choice - multiple ending storylines and open ended games. and a game having an ending does not necessarily get mandated by existence of a storyline. just check x3 terran conflict
there were countless games telling a story without being boring or tedious while playing.