its not 18th century anymore. its the tech era. GLOBAL.
say there is a union. it 'protects' your job. you get paid more for the stuff that global, overseas workers do for less. your company pays that to you. your company spends more on i.t. (and eventually of course any other kind of expenditure and wages due to rise of the unions), than the companies overseas.
the companies overseas can have more capital to do anything. can hire more developers to implement new things faster. and they sell ALL over the world.
their revenues rise, their market share rises, while your company's and all companies in your country, falls.
what happens after 5-10 years ? from WHERE is that company going to find cash to pay you ? do you think demand descends from heavens in fiery chariots ? do you think prices are stuff aliens descend down and decide ? market does those.
think. you have produced complex code for accomplishing various tasks in a small business or a corporation. or, you have arranged a complex server setup to handle the load of the company. or, sorted and programmed their database. put in your examples.
hell, they are basically OBLIGED to you after that point and on. say you have done something in C. its more easier for you to change anything or add anything than a group of experts who spent their life solely on c. because when you do a code, code becomes more than the language its based on. it itself gains a structure and form.
many professions need unions or some kind of protection. but what i think is, apart from very low level entry jobs (tech support, entry sysadmin etc), i.t. doesnt need one.
PHP would be Cafeteria Christianity - Fights with Java for the web market.
fights ?
as a developer doing contract website jobs, and as a web host owner that hosts many small business and individual sites i can say that 'dominance' is nowhere near java. we are swimming in a sea of php.
granted, i know that in medium business and up corporate levels, there are many websites that use java, and if someone is in or near those circles, may take the picture differently, but i assure you it isnt the case in reality.
an average box web hosts use generally houses 100 to 300 different websites for clients, and you can tell that we are swimming in a sea of php/mysql as far as the public, small businesses and people are concerned. its to the extent that some clients may not know alternatives exist, or even do not care.
Cooler heads eventually prevail and do something about the immediate corruption.
not every time.
we are at the dawn of information age, which enables evil minds to monitor and keep track of individuals, organizations, anything. then descend on them with various laws, acts and executive orders and whatnot.
currently, leave aside a violent revolution, its hard to even create a reasonable opposition, or any kind of grassroots movement, without being whacked down.
violent revolution may be the only answer at this point.
these are the correct treatments for the individuals who work for a government that has grown to see itself OVER and ABOVE its citizens, trying to intimidate them down, trying to subdue them.
disobedience. this is what such a government deserves.
thats what ibm and others are doing, and its working well. sell your customers COMPLETE solutions. do not put stuff out separately.
think it like this - imagine you are going to offer a webserver solution. hey, the database server development is already handled by the open source community, cutting many of your development, bugfix, testing costs.
AND you will sell support. no, really. no business can go to an open source forum, post their problem and wait for a useful answer in a busy workday. they will want to have someone to call and get support fast. AND that will be the company who sold the solution to them. charge reasonably for support.
do NOT try to go into the ancient 'hey we did something, we are gonna sell it and make money'. in our days and times, support, service are constant revenue streams. whilst you buy a server every few years. which you would want to bank on ?
'fools' trust government, because government is legally under control of voters. which are those 'fools' you are talking about.
its like this, there is something you have NO control on, and there is something you have SOME control on. which do you trust with your money ?
Only time will tell the truth of the matter.
time told the truth already. the pope of church of holistic economy, his holiness alan greenspan, have come in front of the senate and told them he couldnt understand WHY the market didnt regulate ITSELF.
he wouldnt understand, of course, because he and his flock have forgotten that what they call 'market' is actually people, and the activity there just another aspect of social life.
which is bound to be infested with crooks, opportunists, bastards, criminals, and ill willed people.
therefore market doesnt regulate or 'correct' anything when its left to itself. it NEEDS supervision.
if you ever dare object to this thought, think about this : letting the market 'regulate' itself is like letting the country to 'regulate' itself in criminal matters by letting go of police, judiciary. if you cant bring yourself to accept this can be possible, it would be utterly stupid to propose that 'market' can regulate itself - something that does not exist as a separate entity...
[quote]FYI: I'm not from the US. I'm a doctor in Spain, and I know exactly what I'm talking about.[/quote]
the church of holistic economy is based in u.s. your belief has little difference from a republican from texas.
[quote]
I know exactly what kind of things we're told to HIDE AWAY from the public. I know what policies are to be enforced silently.
Right now the spanish government is backing a doctor that euthanasized hundreds at a public hospital without asking them or their families.
[/quote]
that is just for now. and thats because you are a part of eu, and there are forces in brussels that enforce certain regulations and practices upon you.
spain is not a free market economy. all of europe is heavily regulated, and this is the reason capitalism and interests of people can coexist. that is the reason eu has almost overtaken u.s. as the number one economic power of the west.
watch u.s. and what would spain be like, if that free market delusion of yours was taken to extreme.
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Do you really think states are that transparent? Do you really think the voter's can't be driven around like cattle? Here a single terrorist attack turned an election around.[/quote]
the chances of voters being driven around like cattle, being fooled, is much less if there is not a third proxy in between people and the service in question. that is all that matters. take democracy, democracy isnt also a perfect system, but, it is the system with least flaws.
similarly, if you put everything in private hands, and therefore introduce a third proxy that somehow has the 'rights' to withhold important stuff and also decide your fate, they make monkeys out of your government, and you at the same time.
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The distortion imposed by a free-for-all medical attention is huge.
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[quote] The only thing that drives people away from the free and state-run health system is plain desperation and unsatisfaction over the waiting times (desperation and unsatisfaction we, the workers, must deal with alone).
[/quote]
as many recent studies and documentaries on the subject clearly show, leave aside information you can get from asking acquaintances in those countries, in numerous countries there is no such thing as waiting time. if spain is unable to make it work, it spain's problem.
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And if the state has money problems (I've seen the SS go bankrupt in my homecountry, which is not Spain) it's a catastrophe because the affected people are still charged for SS but get no service and have less money left for the private one. Here in Spain, many aids and subsides have been put on hold because of the crisis. How long till it happens to healthcare?[/quote]
there is no difference in paying to private sector and getting denied treatment, and paying a bankrupt government and not getting healthcare.
oh wait, there is. first one is WORSE, because it means that despite the corporation is not bankrupt, they are screwing you. and in the second one, you can actually have a chance of getting your rights from the state, even if late and delayed. state endures, companies go bankrupt and get out of all legal obligations...
as said, its like the army. if army is privatized in a country, you CANT control it. if army is a conscript army drafted from within people, and controlled and PAID by a parliament that is of the people, then you control them.
excuse me, but the time of church of holistic economy ended around 1.5 months ago. i think you missed what happened by then, and what is happening now, and what really unregulated 'free' market in which everything is miraculously run by 'private' enterprise runs 'more efficient'... just 6 of those 'private enterprises' have dragged ENTIRE WORLD into a mega crisis, because there were idiots who subscribed heavily to the church of holistic economy, which is little different than believing that there is an almighty paternalistic god which will 'save' his believers. 'market delivers' 'market will handle all' 'market this, market that'. in the end we are all biting dirt. unfortunately not only you americans, but each and every individual on the face of this planet is getting blasted.
im also appalled at how you americans somehow think that you're paying less for stuff, because they are not DIRECTLY taken out of your pocket in the form of taxes. its really stupefying, a total case of sociology study.
you people dont pay for nationalized, CONTROLLABLE healthcare. but pay for 'efficient' companies that are private. but then again, those companies do everything in their power to NOT pay for your healthcare, or increase your premiums, and when any politican tries to reform it, they spend hundreds of million dollars for lobbying and get any kind of reform scuttled. what's more, they also buy out laws that will benefit them, even at the cost of your own life, risking it, just to make more easy cash out of you.
and what's worse, you CANT control them, because they are private. you CANT sue them, because they have more money, and they can find ways to scuttle any of your chances of getting your right through an army of lawyers, which you cant afford. you would be probably dead by the time that lawsuit comes to a close anyway, or your relative.
it is absolutely stupid to be able to believe in such a system. DESPITE getting continually and incessantly screwed, sometimes openly, mercilessly. the only reason i can think of, that someone can defend such a system, would be that s/he is a mazoschist. really, to be exploited and risked your life in the same time, willingly, cant be explained by anything else.
and what is more appalling is that, despite there ARE many countries in the world which are pulling nationalized, nationwide healthcare VERY well, VERY efficiently, there are still people who are WANKING the stupidity that is 'nationwide nationalized healthcare system is inefficient and expensive'. well. if you country is/was not able to pull it off, seek the fault in YOUR country, not the system. after all, democracy is the best invented governance method in this civilization, but there are still countries that are not able to pull it off correctly. therefore its YOUR fault, not the system's, if you are unable to make it work right.
now let me break something to you : nationalized healthcare is something that is under YOUR control. there is only one government, and you are one of its OWNERS, and you, as people, can hold any kind of sway over it, and get your rights much more easier than you can take from a private company. hell, government even has to supply any kind of information to you, unless they are military secrets, if you just request them. you cant even ask those for a private company - because that information even, is private property. if they screw you, any information regarding that is private. if they cook the books, any information regarding that is private, until shit hits the fan and there is no chance of fixing it. if they intentionally drive some segment of the society to death, just because they are more risky for profits, you wont know that, because those statistics are private information. any attempt you or your politicians try to change those will be met with shitface "private rights ! property rights ! HANDS OFF" wanking.
there are some functions of the society that CANT be risked in private hands. those include defense, po
because noone other than him would be able to think that such a device would ever be possible. i want one, when they make it, in 5000 years in the future, in the alternate dimension that he lives in.
world has seen LITTLE benefit from political savvy people up till today, since the DAWN of civilization.
sorry, your concern is bullshit, because apparently you dont know much about world history, leave aside political history.
to be able to be political savvy, you have to be a politician in profession. which, leaves little room for anything else. you end up basically being a tricky bastard that can get his way by compromising whatever they can, and in the end this profits noone but the politician and the interested party.
noone here can name 5 cases in which politically savy people did great good for the betterment of mankind. i dare you too.
those people's names go around, they are identified soon with their manners too. no use. you change your manners, or, well - you change your manners and thats it.
And to those people who consider the destination server in a transfer their "home," you are an intruder in their world. They've worked with their server's group of people for so many years, and here comes some new guy who's at the max level and "taking" their spot in the uber guild of choice. The forums for these games are full of this sort of stuff. So, it is a game-changing feature for those who consider their play style the one-true-way-to-play.
totall bullshit of the first order.
a good, decent mannered player always gets a good guild. that has never been different in any point in gaming history, leave aside wow.
actually everyone tries their best to get good mannered people transferred in. just go and ask in a realm forum 'i want to come here, what kind of place is this ?' -> everyone will try to sell their server to you so you will transfer, provided that you appear to be a decent person.
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its like this, they are in a ship sailing the ocean, and youre the navigator who knows the local waters best.
its not 18th century anymore. its the tech era. GLOBAL.
say there is a union. it 'protects' your job. you get paid more for the stuff that global, overseas workers do for less. your company pays that to you. your company spends more on i.t. (and eventually of course any other kind of expenditure and wages due to rise of the unions), than the companies overseas.
the companies overseas can have more capital to do anything. can hire more developers to implement new things faster. and they sell ALL over the world.
their revenues rise, their market share rises, while your company's and all companies in your country, falls.
what happens after 5-10 years ? from WHERE is that company going to find cash to pay you ? do you think demand descends from heavens in fiery chariots ? do you think prices are stuff aliens descend down and decide ? market does those.
think. you have produced complex code for accomplishing various tasks in a small business or a corporation. or, you have arranged a complex server setup to handle the load of the company. or, sorted and programmed their database. put in your examples.
hell, they are basically OBLIGED to you after that point and on. say you have done something in C. its more easier for you to change anything or add anything than a group of experts who spent their life solely on c. because when you do a code, code becomes more than the language its based on. it itself gains a structure and form.
many professions need unions or some kind of protection. but what i think is, apart from very low level entry jobs (tech support, entry sysadmin etc), i.t. doesnt need one.
PHP would be Cafeteria Christianity - Fights with Java for the web market.
fights ?
as a developer doing contract website jobs, and as a web host owner that hosts many small business and individual sites i can say that 'dominance' is nowhere near java. we are swimming in a sea of php.
granted, i know that in medium business and up corporate levels, there are many websites that use java, and if someone is in or near those circles, may take the picture differently, but i assure you it isnt the case in reality.
an average box web hosts use generally houses 100 to 300 different websites for clients, and you can tell that we are swimming in a sea of php/mysql as far as the public, small businesses and people are concerned. its to the extent that some clients may not know alternatives exist, or even do not care.
Cooler heads eventually prevail and do something about the immediate corruption.
not every time.
we are at the dawn of information age, which enables evil minds to monitor and keep track of individuals, organizations, anything. then descend on them with various laws, acts and executive orders and whatnot.
currently, leave aside a violent revolution, its hard to even create a reasonable opposition, or any kind of grassroots movement, without being whacked down.
violent revolution may be the only answer at this point.
stupid.
what is this, moulin rouge ?
these are the correct treatments for the individuals who work for a government that has grown to see itself OVER and ABOVE its citizens, trying to intimidate them down, trying to subdue them.
disobedience. this is what such a government deserves.
this is what had happened in 1774.
thats what ibm and others are doing, and its working well. sell your customers COMPLETE solutions. do not put stuff out separately.
think it like this - imagine you are going to offer a webserver solution. hey, the database server development is already handled by the open source community, cutting many of your development, bugfix, testing costs.
AND you will sell support. no, really. no business can go to an open source forum, post their problem and wait for a useful answer in a busy workday. they will want to have someone to call and get support fast. AND that will be the company who sold the solution to them. charge reasonably for support.
do NOT try to go into the ancient 'hey we did something, we are gonna sell it and make money'. in our days and times, support, service are constant revenue streams. whilst you buy a server every few years. which you would want to bank on ?
its like this, there is something you have NO control on, and there is something you have SOME control on. which do you trust with your money ?
Only time will tell the truth of the matter.
time told the truth already. the pope of church of holistic economy, his holiness alan greenspan, have come in front of the senate and told them he couldnt understand WHY the market didnt regulate ITSELF.
...
he wouldnt understand, of course, because he and his flock have forgotten that what they call 'market' is actually people, and the activity there just another aspect of social life.
which is bound to be infested with crooks, opportunists, bastards, criminals, and ill willed people.
therefore market doesnt regulate or 'correct' anything when its left to itself. it NEEDS supervision.
if you ever dare object to this thought, think about this : letting the market 'regulate' itself is like letting the country to 'regulate' itself in criminal matters by letting go of police, judiciary. if you cant bring yourself to accept this can be possible, it would be utterly stupid to propose that 'market' can regulate itself - something that does not exist as a separate entity
[quote]FYI: I'm not from the US. I'm a doctor in Spain, and I know exactly what I'm talking about.[/quote] the church of holistic economy is based in u.s. your belief has little difference from a republican from texas. [quote] I know exactly what kind of things we're told to HIDE AWAY from the public. I know what policies are to be enforced silently. Right now the spanish government is backing a doctor that euthanasized hundreds at a public hospital without asking them or their families. [/quote] that is just for now. and thats because you are a part of eu, and there are forces in brussels that enforce certain regulations and practices upon you.
...
spain is not a free market economy. all of europe is heavily regulated, and this is the reason capitalism and interests of people can coexist. that is the reason eu has almost overtaken u.s. as the number one economic power of the west.
watch u.s. and what would spain be like, if that free market delusion of yours was taken to extreme. [quote] Do you really think states are that transparent? Do you really think the voter's can't be driven around like cattle? Here a single terrorist attack turned an election around.[/quote] the chances of voters being driven around like cattle, being fooled, is much less if there is not a third proxy in between people and the service in question. that is all that matters. take democracy, democracy isnt also a perfect system, but, it is the system with least flaws.
similarly, if you put everything in private hands, and therefore introduce a third proxy that somehow has the 'rights' to withhold important stuff and also decide your fate, they make monkeys out of your government, and you at the same time. [quote] The distortion imposed by a free-for-all medical attention is huge. [/quote] [quote] The only thing that drives people away from the free and state-run health system is plain desperation and unsatisfaction over the waiting times (desperation and unsatisfaction we, the workers, must deal with alone). [/quote] as many recent studies and documentaries on the subject clearly show, leave aside information you can get from asking acquaintances in those countries, in numerous countries there is no such thing as waiting time. if spain is unable to make it work, it spain's problem. [quote] And if the state has money problems (I've seen the SS go bankrupt in my homecountry, which is not Spain) it's a catastrophe because the affected people are still charged for SS but get no service and have less money left for the private one. Here in Spain, many aids and subsides have been put on hold because of the crisis. How long till it happens to healthcare?[/quote] there is no difference in paying to private sector and getting denied treatment, and paying a bankrupt government and not getting healthcare.
oh wait, there is. first one is WORSE, because it means that despite the corporation is not bankrupt, they are screwing you. and in the second one, you can actually have a chance of getting your rights from the state, even if late and delayed. state endures, companies go bankrupt and get out of all legal obligations
as said, its like the army. if army is privatized in a country, you CANT control it. if army is a conscript army drafted from within people, and controlled and PAID by a parliament that is of the people, then you control them.
same thing.
excuse me, but the time of church of holistic economy ended around 1.5 months ago. i think you missed what happened by then, and what is happening now, and what really unregulated 'free' market in which everything is miraculously run by 'private' enterprise runs 'more efficient' ... just 6 of those 'private enterprises' have dragged ENTIRE WORLD into a mega crisis, because there were idiots who subscribed heavily to the church of holistic economy, which is little different than believing that there is an almighty paternalistic god which will 'save' his believers. 'market delivers' 'market will handle all' 'market this, market that'. in the end we are all biting dirt. unfortunately not only you americans, but each and every individual on the face of this planet is getting blasted.
im also appalled at how you americans somehow think that you're paying less for stuff, because they are not DIRECTLY taken out of your pocket in the form of taxes. its really stupefying, a total case of sociology study.
you people dont pay for nationalized, CONTROLLABLE healthcare. but pay for 'efficient' companies that are private. but then again, those companies do everything in their power to NOT pay for your healthcare, or increase your premiums, and when any politican tries to reform it, they spend hundreds of million dollars for lobbying and get any kind of reform scuttled. what's more, they also buy out laws that will benefit them, even at the cost of your own life, risking it, just to make more easy cash out of you.
and what's worse, you CANT control them, because they are private. you CANT sue them, because they have more money, and they can find ways to scuttle any of your chances of getting your right through an army of lawyers, which you cant afford. you would be probably dead by the time that lawsuit comes to a close anyway, or your relative.
it is absolutely stupid to be able to believe in such a system. DESPITE getting continually and incessantly screwed, sometimes openly, mercilessly. the only reason i can think of, that someone can defend such a system, would be that s/he is a mazoschist. really, to be exploited and risked your life in the same time, willingly, cant be explained by anything else.
and what is more appalling is that, despite there ARE many countries in the world which are pulling nationalized, nationwide healthcare VERY well, VERY efficiently, there are still people who are WANKING the stupidity that is 'nationwide nationalized healthcare system is inefficient and expensive'. well. if you country is/was not able to pull it off, seek the fault in YOUR country, not the system. after all, democracy is the best invented governance method in this civilization, but there are still countries that are not able to pull it off correctly. therefore its YOUR fault, not the system's, if you are unable to make it work right.
now let me break something to you : nationalized healthcare is something that is under YOUR control. there is only one government, and you are one of its OWNERS, and you, as people, can hold any kind of sway over it, and get your rights much more easier than you can take from a private company. hell, government even has to supply any kind of information to you, unless they are military secrets, if you just request them. you cant even ask those for a private company - because that information even, is private property. if they screw you, any information regarding that is private. if they cook the books, any information regarding that is private, until shit hits the fan and there is no chance of fixing it. if they intentionally drive some segment of the society to death, just because they are more risky for profits, you wont know that, because those statistics are private information. any attempt you or your politicians try to change those will be met with shitface "private rights ! property rights ! HANDS OFF" wanking.
there are some functions of the society that CANT be risked in private hands. those include defense, po
i would like to 'alliterate' you if you dont mind.
consider yourself alliterated.
but you said it. being too skeptical, is, stupid.
it is beyond the point of engulfing all of people's lives through usage.
now, where is my torch ? and all of you, get your pitchforks, fast
sack the idiot, and cancel contracts of any 'stonewall enthusiast' corporations, with penalties if possible.
its as simple as that. what you reap, you should saw.
ATI's latest cards give more punch for the cost apiece. and they are designed specifically for being clustered/linked/xfired and whatnot.
because noone other than him would be able to think that such a device would ever be possible. i want one, when they make it, in 5000 years in the future, in the alternate dimension that he lives in.
world has seen LITTLE benefit from political savvy people up till today, since the DAWN of civilization.
sorry, your concern is bullshit, because apparently you dont know much about world history, leave aside political history.
to be able to be political savvy, you have to be a politician in profession. which, leaves little room for anything else. you end up basically being a tricky bastard that can get his way by compromising whatever they can, and in the end this profits noone but the politician and the interested party.
noone here can name 5 cases in which politically savy people did great good for the betterment of mankind. i dare you too.
call me a skeptic but that satellite looks way too uniform apart from meteor impact effects, to be a product of natural cosmic phenomenon.
those people's names go around, they are identified soon with their manners too. no use. you change your manners, or, well - you change your manners and thats it.
And to those people who consider the destination server in a transfer their "home," you are an intruder in their world. They've worked with their server's group of people for so many years, and here comes some new guy who's at the max level and "taking" their spot in the uber guild of choice. The forums for these games are full of this sort of stuff. So, it is a game-changing feature for those who consider their play style the one-true-way-to-play.
totall bullshit of the first order.
a good, decent mannered player always gets a good guild. that has never been different in any point in gaming history, leave aside wow.
actually everyone tries their best to get good mannered people transferred in. just go and ask in a realm forum 'i want to come here, what kind of place is this ?' -> everyone will try to sell their server to you so you will transfer, provided that you appear to be a decent person.
character transfer is not a game changing feature or service. it just changes your character's realm/server.
it touches important points. this seems like a blatant 'we'll make extra money off you without giving any extra fun' case.