you are thinking in OUR mindset, and heritage. with OUR light based technology we cant think and contrive of any means to use light to communicate in ranges further than optical range. and again with our mindset you are saying "they understand the EM spectrum and astronomy". they dont have to resort to the idea of contacting other sentient civilizations with radio waves in order to understand astronomy. again, just as per our own biases due to our own heritage, they may totally think differently as to what's the best way to reach other civilizations.
wave nature of the light does not come into play in the level you tinker with it. if those civilizations use beams of light to communicate, we wont be able to get it with our devices.
After all the bills and executive orders they put through to increase the authority of the president and his office, unwarranted wiretapping stuff, 'enemy combatant' joke, guantanamo, no-fly lists and such, you thought they would leave internet alone ?
Thats bush & co for you. No surprise at&t is the name that comes up with them. after all, its 'for the boyZ', right ?
If you're trying to send a message to a primitive civilization, radio waves are a good way to do it. They are cheap to generate cognitive and deduction process of sentients are always much affected by their culture. instead another civilization would say "radio waves ? what if they dont have the technology to receive waves and interpret them ? we'll send light, light is universal, everywhere, and can be seen by even optical organs".
just an example. actually each civilization may think QUITE different, due to their cultural evolutionary past.
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Why is it so certain that you can find other civilizations by listening to radio frequencies ? As we now the development of life forms entirely depends on the factors they evolve in, it is also probable that their technology would also be much more different in line with their evolution.
it is highly probable, for example,say, a civilization to directly go in developing technology based on various uses of light, and base their communication, computerization, and even transportation on such an infrastructure. we are just starting to use light concept on computing, testing crystalline storages instead of magnetic disks, on transportation, testing out beaming power with laser to a vehicle from ground, so that heated air on the capsule can be used to propel the craft upwards (nasa's famous tests with that thing on a string), testing out ion engine concept, and testing out usage of laser links in datalinks.
what if, such a civilization using such technology just remains an odd and awkward twinkle of various red light emanations in hubble ?
in short, arent we too arrogant with the concept of everyone has to use mathematics and radio waves to broadcast a signal throughout the universe, OR somehow they will use them in their tech and some odd coincidence resulting from a use of a technology will create a wave strong enough to make it here ?
But those who do not encrypt, or hide their villaionus activities, and conduct them openly getting backed by dubious laws that are passed through bribery of elected representatives.
Mona Lisa is fantastic. Can it be used widespread ? Is it relevant ?
Moreover, even if that word was fit to use in that fashion, the simple fact that it is not in widespread use would mean that it wasnt that 'fantastic'. Volkswagen beetle would be in 'fantastic' category then, likewise "ibm compatible personal computers". but not python.
"using it" does not mean who actually use it as a client/visitor. user here means the provider of that service, ie the company utilizing it. cia and so on do not count as examples in that. even if they deployed sh*t, people would have to use them. no choice.
The cmses, which are generally based on php/mysql, fall little short of doing housework, laundry and cooking. One can do everything with them. So ? whats the racket about 'professional' development on a cms on pythong ? it doesnt go professional unless there are hundreds of thousands of people using it, and using it for serious ends, like oscommerce.
Or stevenson ? james watt ? or many other prominent names who did great additions to human civilization ? come again ?
being a throwback hippie would be a spectacular record in 'academic' humanism and rational thought compared to the actual political/life views of many such prominent historical names.
You know, the aptitude for bribery, shady competition, backstabbing, monopolistic leanings and such ? And chair throwing skillz ? Maybe he lacked those 'qualities' ?
And he forgot to mention patents did he ? These companies are just sucking on the accomplishments of the last century, bringing nothing into human civilization for the last 50 years. They have grown stale and harmful.
For the first time in the civilization's history, there is an invention that brings ENTIRE world together, yet some crowd can only think of "warfare" "strong armed force" "defense" (defense my butt, anything for defense is always for offense) and shit.
If you let derelict, obsolete old coots run a nation, this happens. Repression of the elder citizens. I bet many of them still live in 1950s mindset.
any api/environment that has myspace in it caters to, well, myspace crowd ( good lord there is no other way to put it). i wouldnt think any average user of facebook would like to ( god forbid) mingle with myspacers in an environment, regardless of the api.
Dev team, that was, i assure you. Textbook gig - just obscure/hide the objected content, so that some enterprising 'hackers' can uncensor them. which hackers ? ones using absurdly l337 nicknames, for sure. but what are their real names ? you guessed right.
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you are thinking in OUR mindset, and heritage. with OUR light based technology we cant think and contrive of any means to use light to communicate in ranges further than optical range. and again with our mindset you are saying "they understand the EM spectrum and astronomy". they dont have to resort to the idea of contacting other sentient civilizations with radio waves in order to understand astronomy. again, just as per our own biases due to our own heritage, they may totally think differently as to what's the best way to reach other civilizations.
wave nature of the light does not come into play in the level you tinker with it. if those civilizations use beams of light to communicate, we wont be able to get it with our devices.
You vote some party into power, and they ignore you for 4 years and do whatever they please.
After all the bills and executive orders they put through to increase the authority of the president and his office, unwarranted wiretapping stuff, 'enemy combatant' joke, guantanamo, no-fly lists and such, you thought they would leave internet alone ?
Thats bush & co for you. No surprise at&t is the name that comes up with them. after all, its 'for the boyZ', right ?
just an example. actually each civilization may think QUITE different, due to their cultural evolutionary past.
Why is it so certain that you can find other civilizations by listening to radio frequencies ? As we now the development of life forms entirely depends on the factors they evolve in, it is also probable that their technology would also be much more different in line with their evolution.
it is highly probable, for example,say, a civilization to directly go in developing technology based on various uses of light, and base their communication, computerization, and even transportation on such an infrastructure. we are just starting to use light concept on computing, testing crystalline storages instead of magnetic disks, on transportation, testing out beaming power with laser to a vehicle from ground, so that heated air on the capsule can be used to propel the craft upwards (nasa's famous tests with that thing on a string), testing out ion engine concept, and testing out usage of laser links in datalinks.
what if, such a civilization using such technology just remains an odd and awkward twinkle of various red light emanations in hubble ?
in short, arent we too arrogant with the concept of everyone has to use mathematics and radio waves to broadcast a signal throughout the universe, OR somehow they will use them in their tech and some odd coincidence resulting from a use of a technology will create a wave strong enough to make it here ?
Sailor Moon ? AHAahaha aha ahahahahhhh.
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allright allright. im leaving my geek membership card at the reception
But those who do not encrypt, or hide their villaionus activities, and conduct them openly getting backed by dubious laws that are passed through bribery of elected representatives.
That, sir, are YOU.
and now, he is threatening it. seeing a pattern here.
Mona Lisa is fantastic. Can it be used widespread ? Is it relevant ?
Moreover, even if that word was fit to use in that fashion, the simple fact that it is not in widespread use would mean that it wasnt that 'fantastic'. Volkswagen beetle would be in 'fantastic' category then, likewise "ibm compatible personal computers". but not python.
yet, fantasticness does not justify widespread usage.
"using it" does not mean who actually use it as a client/visitor. user here means the provider of that service, ie the company utilizing it. cia and so on do not count as examples in that. even if they deployed sh*t, people would have to use them. no choice.
The cmses, which are generally based on php/mysql, fall little short of doing housework, laundry and cooking. One can do everything with them. So ? whats the racket about 'professional' development on a cms on pythong ? it doesnt go professional unless there are hundreds of thousands of people using it, and using it for serious ends, like oscommerce.
Or stevenson ? james watt ? or many other prominent names who did great additions to human civilization ? come again ?
being a throwback hippie would be a spectacular record in 'academic' humanism and rational thought compared to the actual political/life views of many such prominent historical names.
You know, the aptitude for bribery, shady competition, backstabbing, monopolistic leanings and such ? And chair throwing skillz ? Maybe he lacked those 'qualities' ?
And he forgot to mention patents did he ? These companies are just sucking on the accomplishments of the last century, bringing nothing into human civilization for the last 50 years. They have grown stale and harmful.
If it was bush or cheney calling me that, i wouldnt give a fart. Yet, lantos is not a light load when it comes to ethics.
Now Lego-like devices target another segment of the modern society ! when will this strife end !
now ?
When did that happen ? with a pathetic 2% share ?
time to cancel my facebook account it seems.
For the first time in the civilization's history, there is an invention that brings ENTIRE world together, yet some crowd can only think of "warfare" "strong armed force" "defense" (defense my butt, anything for defense is always for offense) and shit.
If you let derelict, obsolete old coots run a nation, this happens. Repression of the elder citizens. I bet many of them still live in 1950s mindset.
in the same api/environment ? oh bugger off !!!
any api/environment that has myspace in it caters to, well, myspace crowd ( good lord there is no other way to put it). i wouldnt think any average user of facebook would like to ( god forbid) mingle with myspacers in an environment, regardless of the api.
we sc2 players have started taking sc3 non canon 2 months after it was out.
Star Control 3 was such a shame compared to 2.
members of the nazi party made heaploads of money, and just loved what they did. but that didnt make what they did right.
Dev team, that was, i assure you. Textbook gig - just obscure/hide the objected content, so that some enterprising 'hackers' can uncensor them. which hackers ? ones using absurdly l337 nicknames, for sure. but what are their real names ? you guessed right.