You, me a few hundred others will read the comments we posted here. ALMOST NONE will act on them.
What matters is the big reach. Now hype bloggers can do that, popular nonprofit organizations can do that, but, when at&t does its thing, only the one who can pay big bandwidth exthortion fees will be able to do that.
It is not posting online that matters. It is reaching millions that matters...
In u.s., big businesses legalize almost everything to meet their ends, in expense of the people. Which means the MAJORITY of the nation.
They BUY lobbyists, these MISLEAD people, they DONATE to congressmen, these vote for their 'masters' instead of the constituents, and the big business gets its way.
When someone comes up and says "Hey, theyre reducing the people to dust. They are taking away opportunities from us. They are controlling us. There should be regulations", PAID lobbyists and 'think tank's come up and howl that "business should be free, hands off business and hands off shit and that". And they get their way. S/he/they who warn about the danger are labeled "fuckin liberal green commies". But IN THE END what happens is that THE MAJORITY of the people, EVEN the ones who label opposition DOES NOT get anything out of what big corporations do, they are just messed up further.
And here we have europe. There are HORDES of "fuckin liberal green commies" in power all around the europe, and in european commissions.
And these "fuckin liberal commies" blurt out HORDES of regulations, laws, directives each year, the rights of PEOPLE, the EQUALITY in rights and opportunities, the DEMOCRACY is preserved and furthered AND YET BUSINESS CONTINUES TO GROW ALL OVER EUROPE.
Here we have another example. Small steps adding up to an utopic internet, and no surprise; again in europe.
While u.s. is being HERDED in the other way by AT&T, europe goes on the road that leaves internet as we know it and furthers it.
Yet, still u.s. people do not rise up to the fact that, if you let businesses TOO MUCH FREEDOM, some get too big and TAKE CONTROL OF SOCIETY.
And whenever someone points out the difference between the status of u.s. and eu, its labeled as 'eu>us crap'
Well, its your problem before ours. We arent the ones who are being governed BY AT&T.
And i would wish the people who are annoyed with the way things are going in u.s. would migrate to europe.
Well, just translate 'signing in' to 'approval by congress'. What does differ ? The big business is still doing mischief and misleading people by spending money. Lobbyists, the scientist who get funding from these corporations...
You know what is happening with the net neutrality thing :
Some big corps have paid 'lobby'ists, and these people are blurting out all kinds of fact and fiction to hold their bidder's case.
Same is the situation with global warming. Industry interests do not want things to be decided. They want to continue emission, continue expansion unchecked and unregulated in regard to environment. This is why bush have not signed in kyoto treaty.
It is folly not to get there are hordes of lobbyists, 'scientists' that are paid and funded by these corporations, being their mouthpieces.
So, if you wait some consensus to happen in the science community before something is done, this will be in the wake of a major catastrophe. And in something's wake, you cant rush nothing - youre doomed.
I have explained this in detail in replies to the replies for my initial comment. I should have detailed it there so that i wouldnt have to do that. But:
This is not a 'some odd weather we are having" issue. This has been going for over 15 years now. First it started to get hotter and drearier (in terms of rain) continually, then it reached climactic levels 2 years ago, and now, this summer, it is plain absurd.
Normal trend here is that we should have 15 day long rains, uninterrupted in april. for 5 years now its not happening. 15 years ago, there were times that april rains lasted 1 months. with only short pauses.
Now, you have to live here to understand what kind of oddity is this. It should be 99% humid and around 40 celsius. It has been for the last 300 years. It is not happening to be so now.
Had this been some oddity, like the snowfall in 93 (2 snowfalls happened in 30 years), it would not neccessarily be noted.
It is a term that is referring to a situation that the average temperature of the planet will rise to an extent.
This does not mean that everywhere temperatures will rise.
The overall change in in temperature average will change the climate in general, the weather patterns, maybe jet streams, even some ocean streams, some rainfall patterns and such and such.
The reflection of this general change on every micro climate system (like cities, or specific plains or mountain ranges) will all be different, depending on what end of the global changes hit the area.
There is no reason around antalya, bay area, eastern mediterranean for a localized cooling that continually WARMS up during the course of 15 years until the point of being hell on earth, then suddenly start switching back and forth trend in the last 3-4 years.
Only thing left is global warming. In the end, the local changes in weather make up the 'global climate'. Just like other 'shithole' spots that have their weather changing without a reason.
Isolated places are the places which will be experiencing the change the last. So nonexistent change in places in the middle of mountain ranges, or low plains does not constitute an evidence against global warming.
This change has been perpetuating since 15 years. Just as i told in reply to another comment, climate started gradually changing. It does not rain for 2 weeks without pause now as it did 15 years ago in april. It was the 2-3 HUNDRED YEARS OLD thing happening here. It does not since 10 years. Then it started switching back and forth.
Actually im just exploding on a trend that has been going for the last 15 years.
It rained like hell in antalya back then. almost 15 days CONSTANT rain, without a pause. Yes. There was a special name for it : "Nisan Rains" (from april).
For 10 years now, it is not happening.
Gradually for 10 years now, first it started to get EXTREMELY HOT, then it started to ALTERNATE during the course of single years.
Im not judging from just a 1 year switch. Im judging from CONSTANT 1 year switches, which imply a trend.
Im in Antalya, Turkey. In mediterranean coast, western turkey.
This is a tourism spot, a mediterranean riviera if you will, no, not like italy, or spain, not like forest-deprived or barren lands, but lush, green, VERY HUMID, VERY HOT places. In winter warm and rainy.
Normally, at 15 June, we should be SWELTERING OURSELVES OUT, EVEN WITH AIRCONDITIONING ON, 99% humidity, 38+ degrees celsius IN SHADOW, HOT breezes and etc.
At least, this was the way since 2 years ago. Then things started going, as they wish, if you will.
As of this moment i can sit in front of this pc only with having fall gear on, long sleeves, even a polar shirt, although it is thin. Wearing socks, underwear and such. Normally i should be wearing only a short in this time of season. But im not. Its odd. It rains, it is cool, tourism industry, which is very big, is appalled with the situation.
Whereas, in netherlands, which is a cold country by definition, my cousin is sweltering in heat in 33 degrees celsius. I should note here that, friends in germany reported that they were able to see the face of the sun only 1.5 months last summer, rest being cloudy and rather cool.
To hell with the 'scientists' that trash gore's documentary.
I am MYSELF first hand witnessing the global warming and its awkward effects. I dont need nobody to tell me it is happening, certainly no business-interest-funded researches are going to change my view.
Last summer was hot as hell. Last winter, was WARM unusually. This summer, it is ABSURDLY COOL.
PAID people that believe and defend WHOEVER PAYS THEM FIRST.
Whatever might be the truth, they set up fake grassroots organisations, launch advertisement and (dis)information campaigns in order to do the bidding of their payer.
What kind of phenomenon is this ?
What kind of democratic practice is this ? Liberty to get paid and DECEIVE or OUST anybody who might stand in the way.
I can understand this with lawyers, it is a concept of HAVING to defend the defendant, with the FACTS at hand.
But they are not allowed to MANUFACTURE FACTS. Like the telco 'lobbyists' do for example.
There is one explanation for doing such manufacturing of 'facts'. it is either called LYING or DECEIT.
I personally would take ANYBODY who would believe in any campaign, any idea, ANY WORD that comes from telco side lobbyists as PAID LIES. Because the concept is that simple - pay me, and i lie for you.
What is more appalling is that this is something LEGAL. How come ?
Why bother with this ? I suggest united states make the congressmanship/senatorship a PAID position that goes to the highest bidder for that term, and save the trouble of elections, lobbies and shit.
U.S. people have been passive in the wake of corporate attack against their freedom for over a long time now. And the attack progresses day by day. Now what is it gonna be next ?
All the while they were too comfy in their northern country, almost ignored the crap going on down west, and now, see, the northern counterparts of the withered white-asses got courage from their southern counterparts and killing canada.
Well, actually the reason hillary is blurting out such 'regulation' crap is increasing conservatism too.
As the public seemed to be increasingly conservative in the last elections, they are trying to capitalize on those.
Because, to they games & internet is something new, and the democrats do not have a definite stance, it seems like they can exhibit conservativism there and noone would notice - it wouldnt be a let go of liberal stances similar to abortion etc.
But, ignorance is bliss, they say. Had Hillary known that the gamer crowd is not comprised of 12 year olds but hordes of 20-45 adults that have lived by the IT revolution, and they are almost all liberal, she wouldnt be sleeping easy.
With increasing conservatism and decreasing intellectualism, education and 'care' for rest of the world, theyll be plowing their fields with oxen in a dozen years.
Google, Ms, eBay, Yahoo and others, SPEND MONEY !!
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If you do spend money to advertise and BUY senators NOW, it is possible that we can still save the equality on the net at the senate.
Theres no ethics, theres no honesty here. The telcos spent $10 million on advertising and lobbying OPENLY - god knows how many was spent as 'donations' to congressmen and women.
This is a fight of life and death. Do not hesitate, do not tarry - just spend and spend now.
You will be paying that kind of money to the telcos if you dont spend it now on lobbying if we lose.
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it would have been great wouldnt it ? We would just fly to wherever we please.
Nothing.
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You, me a few hundred others will read the comments we posted here. ALMOST NONE will act on them.
What matters is the big reach. Now hype bloggers can do that, popular nonprofit organizations can do that, but, when at&t does its thing, only the one who can pay big bandwidth exthortion fees will be able to do that.
It is not posting online that matters. It is reaching millions that matters
Huh ?
In u.s., big businesses legalize almost everything to meet their ends, in expense of the people. Which means the MAJORITY of the nation.
They BUY lobbyists, these MISLEAD people, they DONATE to congressmen, these vote for their 'masters' instead of the constituents, and the big business gets its way.
When someone comes up and says "Hey, theyre reducing the people to dust. They are taking away opportunities from us. They are controlling us. There should be regulations", PAID lobbyists and 'think tank's come up and howl that "business should be free, hands off business and hands off shit and that". And they get their way. S/he/they who warn about the danger are labeled "fuckin liberal green commies". But IN THE END what happens is that THE MAJORITY of the people, EVEN the ones who label opposition DOES NOT get anything out of what big corporations do, they are just messed up further.
And here we have europe. There are HORDES of "fuckin liberal green commies" in power all around the europe, and in european commissions.
And these "fuckin liberal commies" blurt out HORDES of regulations, laws, directives each year, the rights of PEOPLE, the EQUALITY in rights and opportunities, the DEMOCRACY is preserved and furthered AND YET BUSINESS CONTINUES TO GROW ALL OVER EUROPE.
Here we have another example. Small steps adding up to an utopic internet, and no surprise; again in europe.
While u.s. is being HERDED in the other way by AT&T, europe goes on the road that leaves internet as we know it and furthers it.
Yet, still u.s. people do not rise up to the fact that, if you let businesses TOO MUCH FREEDOM, some get too big and TAKE CONTROL OF SOCIETY.
And whenever someone points out the difference between the status of u.s. and eu, its labeled as 'eu>us crap'
Well, its your problem before ours. We arent the ones who are being governed BY AT&T.
And i would wish the people who are annoyed with the way things are going in u.s. would migrate to europe.
Yea. In 10 years in U.S. the people to exchange ideas will be the ones who are able to pay for it.
Which will probably mean the big corporations, their owners, or their top management and lobbyists.
Well, just translate 'signing in' to 'approval by congress'. What does differ ? The big business is still doing mischief and misleading people by spending money. Lobbyists, the scientist who get funding from these corporations ...
There was a datacenter deal 6 months ago. I frauded with ibm and received my cut of $500 m crisp.
There is even a branch of mathematics, studying on Chaos - chaos mathematics.
In a system like globe, the sum of all randomnesses and fluctuations sum up to one observeable final system.
You know what is happening with the net neutrality thing :
Some big corps have paid 'lobby'ists, and these people are blurting out all kinds of fact and fiction to hold their bidder's case.
Same is the situation with global warming. Industry interests do not want things to be decided. They want to continue emission, continue expansion unchecked and unregulated in regard to environment. This is why bush have not signed in kyoto treaty.
It is folly not to get there are hordes of lobbyists, 'scientists' that are paid and funded by these corporations, being their mouthpieces.
So, if you wait some consensus to happen in the science community before something is done, this will be in the wake of a major catastrophe. And in something's wake, you cant rush nothing - youre doomed.
Or should it ?
Phletora of things related to climate oddities happening here and there, yet there STILL are people that are passing them as 'localized' occurences.
Yea, hordes of localized occurences all over the world. Sounds like 'global' to me.
I have explained this in detail in replies to the replies for my initial comment. I should have detailed it there so that i wouldnt have to do that. But:
This is not a 'some odd weather we are having" issue. This has been going for over 15 years now. First it started to get hotter and drearier (in terms of rain) continually, then it reached climactic levels 2 years ago, and now, this summer, it is plain absurd.
Normal trend here is that we should have 15 day long rains, uninterrupted in april. for 5 years now its not happening. 15 years ago, there were times that april rains lasted 1 months. with only short pauses.
Now, you have to live here to understand what kind of oddity is this. It should be 99% humid and around 40 celsius. It has been for the last 300 years. It is not happening to be so now.
Had this been some oddity, like the snowfall in 93 (2 snowfalls happened in 30 years), it would not neccessarily be noted.
The term "Global WARMING" misleads many people.
It is a term that is referring to a situation that the average temperature of the planet will rise to an extent.
This does not mean that everywhere temperatures will rise.
The overall change in in temperature average will change the climate in general, the weather patterns, maybe jet streams, even some ocean streams, some rainfall patterns and such and such.
The reflection of this general change on every micro climate system (like cities, or specific plains or mountain ranges) will all be different, depending on what end of the global changes hit the area.
I believe in our case, we received the cold end.
There is no reason around antalya, bay area, eastern mediterranean for a localized cooling that continually WARMS up during the course of 15 years until the point of being hell on earth, then suddenly start switching back and forth trend in the last 3-4 years.
Only thing left is global warming. In the end, the local changes in weather make up the 'global climate'. Just like other 'shithole' spots that have their weather changing without a reason.
Isolated places are the places which will be experiencing the change the last. So nonexistent change in places in the middle of mountain ranges, or low plains does not constitute an evidence against global warming.
This change has been perpetuating since 15 years. Just as i told in reply to another comment, climate started gradually changing. It does not rain for 2 weeks without pause now as it did 15 years ago in april. It was the 2-3 HUNDRED YEARS OLD thing happening here. It does not since 10 years. Then it started switching back and forth.
Nay pal.
Actually im just exploding on a trend that has been going for the last 15 years.
It rained like hell in antalya back then. almost 15 days CONSTANT rain, without a pause. Yes. There was a special name for it : "Nisan Rains" (from april).
For 10 years now, it is not happening.
Gradually for 10 years now, first it started to get EXTREMELY HOT, then it started to ALTERNATE during the course of single years.
Im not judging from just a 1 year switch. Im judging from CONSTANT 1 year switches, which imply a trend.
Im in Antalya, Turkey. In mediterranean coast, western turkey.
This is a tourism spot, a mediterranean riviera if you will, no, not like italy, or spain, not like forest-deprived or barren lands, but lush, green, VERY HUMID, VERY HOT places. In winter warm and rainy.
Normally, at 15 June, we should be SWELTERING OURSELVES OUT, EVEN WITH AIRCONDITIONING ON, 99% humidity, 38+ degrees celsius IN SHADOW, HOT breezes and etc.
At least, this was the way since 2 years ago. Then things started going, as they wish, if you will.
As of this moment i can sit in front of this pc only with having fall gear on, long sleeves, even a polar shirt, although it is thin. Wearing socks, underwear and such. Normally i should be wearing only a short in this time of season. But im not. Its odd. It rains, it is cool, tourism industry, which is very big, is appalled with the situation.
Whereas, in netherlands, which is a cold country by definition, my cousin is sweltering in heat in 33 degrees celsius. I should note here that, friends in germany reported that they were able to see the face of the sun only 1.5 months last summer, rest being cloudy and rather cool.
To hell with the 'scientists' that trash gore's documentary.
I am MYSELF first hand witnessing the global warming and its awkward effects. I dont need nobody to tell me it is happening, certainly no business-interest-funded researches are going to change my view.
Last summer was hot as hell. Last winter, was WARM unusually. This summer, it is ABSURDLY COOL.
Huh ?
PAID people that believe and defend WHOEVER PAYS THEM FIRST.
Whatever might be the truth, they set up fake grassroots organisations, launch advertisement and (dis)information campaigns in order to do the bidding of their payer.
What kind of phenomenon is this ?
What kind of democratic practice is this ? Liberty to get paid and DECEIVE or OUST anybody who might stand in the way.
I can understand this with lawyers, it is a concept of HAVING to defend the defendant, with the FACTS at hand.
But they are not allowed to MANUFACTURE FACTS. Like the telco 'lobbyists' do for example.
There is one explanation for doing such manufacturing of 'facts'. it is either called LYING or DECEIT.
I personally would take ANYBODY who would believe in any campaign, any idea, ANY WORD that comes from telco side lobbyists as PAID LIES. Because the concept is that simple - pay me, and i lie for you.
What is more appalling is that this is something LEGAL. How come ?
Why bother with this ? I suggest united states make the congressmanship/senatorship a PAID position that goes to the highest bidder for that term, and save the trouble of elections, lobbies and shit.
Insightful indeed. Shortly sums up the situation.
Big 'investments' buy out splendid companies and fuck them up.
This is what vivendi and hasbro did to many of the spectacular game companies of the 90es.
Trying to make more money they just mess up and fuck up the formation and momentum, and at the end audience of a gaming company.
This should be banned. It is detrimental to the general overall creativity of the gaming genre.
I dislike something whenever i see 'vivendi' or 'hasbro' logo on it.
U.S. people have been passive in the wake of corporate attack against their freedom for over a long time now. And the attack progresses day by day. Now what is it gonna be next ?
All the while they were too comfy in their northern country, almost ignored the crap going on down west, and now, see, the northern counterparts of the withered white-asses got courage from their southern counterparts and killing canada.
Take it as like this : the gamers & internet crowd are at least definite to be liberal on the matters related to gaming and internet.
This is the fact that hillary is investing in the wrong cause, the wrong way.
I wouldnt be too opposed to conservatism in terms of 'keeping to themselves', had it not been a resource easy to exploit by power hungry politicians.
Well, actually the reason hillary is blurting out such 'regulation' crap is increasing conservatism too.
As the public seemed to be increasingly conservative in the last elections, they are trying to capitalize on those.
Because, to they games & internet is something new, and the democrats do not have a definite stance, it seems like they can exhibit conservativism there and noone would notice - it wouldnt be a let go of liberal stances similar to abortion etc.
But, ignorance is bliss, they say. Had Hillary known that the gamer crowd is not comprised of 12 year olds but hordes of 20-45 adults that have lived by the IT revolution, and they are almost all liberal, she wouldnt be sleeping easy.
This is what midwest is leading to.
With increasing conservatism and decreasing intellectualism, education and 'care' for rest of the world, theyll be plowing their fields with oxen in a dozen years.
NOW !!!
If you do spend money to advertise and BUY senators NOW, it is possible that we can still save the equality on the net at the senate.
Theres no ethics, theres no honesty here. The telcos spent $10 million on advertising and lobbying OPENLY - god knows how many was spent as 'donations' to congressmen and women.
This is a fight of life and death. Do not hesitate, do not tarry - just spend and spend now.
You will be paying that kind of money to the telcos if you dont spend it now on lobbying if we lose.