I feel just awful for them. They take your money, don't pay you interest, for the vague promise that they will give you an actual product for it sometime in the unspecified future.
It's not like the PS3 is the first system this has happened with.
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sure, the diode is $5, but the bribes to export significant quantities of them runs around $1450/per.
convergence: grab treo off charging station, walk out door.
sans convergence: grab cell phone, mp3 player, walk out door, walk back in door to get organizer, almost walk out door, realize you'll be sitting on the train for 45 minutes, walk back in to look for gameboy or a book, walk back out door.
it's not the mp3 player that sucks up the juice, it's the phone. If I turn the phone part of my treo off, the battery is good for... I don't even know, I've never had the phone part off for that long. Longer than a 6-hour flight, anyway.
> The ONLY reason Sony is "launching" now is to have the official launch before the holiday season. That's it. They could've just as legitimately launched a month ago selling 500 consoles, it would be the same effect
Ok, what magic number do you need for a 'real' launch? Every console launch I can remember has been the same way. I couldn't buy a DS Lite for like 3 weeks, and when I finally got one, I couldn't find the games I wanted for another few weeks. Where was Zonk then? The XBox launch was the same (here at least, dunno about Japan), as was the PSP and the PS2.
This doesn't even touch on the more obvious question of "what about -any- of this is wrong in any way?" People with too much money get their units early, enterprising businessmen make some cash, and homeless guys make some money so they can sleep inside for a few nights.
If you want to bitch about this 'artificial scarcity' bullshit, talk to gamestop, who won't sell you a wii unless you buy it as part of a $600 package that includes another controller and a bunch of games. How do they get away with it? BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH WIIS TO MEET DEMAND. And yet somehow, I think we may not hear anything from Zonk on the subject.
every console launch since the SNES has been the same goddamn way. That's just the way the business is. Remember the DS lite? Same goddamn deal, but we didn't hear Zonk denouncing Nintendo for that, now did we? Any bets as to whether there'll be plenty of Wiis to go around next week? Think I might have a tough time getting one in the first weeks?
"Update: 11/12 05:40 GMT by Z : You're right. Sony only shares a portion of the blame here. Offsides on my part."
Oh, they only share a portion of the blame? That's awfully magnanimous of you, but just exactly why should they take any blame? What should they have done? NOT sold a PS3 to someone because they looked shabby? Should they have insisted on some sort of contract that the customer signs that promises to not resell it?
This is just shameful. Honestly, did Zonk's mom used to beat him with a playstation or something? The constant Sony-bashing is just insane. And it's not like you have to look real far to find something they actually DID that was wrong.
> I think you are probably completely wrong there.
It's certainly possible. The article is a little light on details and I'm certainly no scholar on British law.
> I think it is most likely she has run afoul of the law for what you could call "contextual crimes"
Well, yeah, that much is pretty obvious.
> Her reading list isn't really what you expect from 22 year old girls, it it?
So? What I was reading at 22 wasn't what you would expect from a 22 year old boy either.
> Besides, police arrest or not, prosecutors charge or not, judges judge.
Right. And the police have to charge you with a crime when they arrest you (at least in the US). And that charge was, apparently, 'possesion of forbidden documents.' Which is to my way of thinking a little creepy.
Police on Thursday charged a woman on terrorism-related offences for possession of a computer hard drive loaded with operating manuals for guns, poisons, mines and munitions.
Sounds like she was arrested for possession to me. I'm sure the police have reasons to suspect her as a terrist as well, but unless I read TFA wrong, she was arrested for possession of forbidden documents.
well, yeah, it's not here yet. But I can't remember the last time I even heard anything like this from anyone else, modulus open source people. Can you?
If Google makes their data more portable, then everyone else will be forced to, especially after they've come out and asked others to.
Now imagine, if you can move all your data from $SERVICE to Google, and the only thing keeping you with $SERVICE is your data.
Basically, by allowing this, Google says you can leave the coolest hangout and go to other hangouts, but others should also be able to leave their hangouts and come hang out with Google.
uh, ok, and the problem with all this is...
um?
I don't know. How is this bad for the consumer again?
this will help them more than it will help you.
Why would I care if it's good or bad for google? It's good for me, therefore... uh, it's good for me. If google makes a profit by making things that make my life better, good for them and many happy returns. Again, please explain the problem in your scenario, because I don't see one.
if you're paying 50% taxes, your first concern should be to get an accountant that knows which end of the pencil to use, not bitching about the concept of taxation.
> Let's face it - time is the one thing you can never get back.
This is exactly the kind of defeatist attitude that's stifling important time machine research in this country. Why, it's getting so that garage inventors can hardly afford a Delorean at all, much less buy the necessary conversion parts.
This is hilarious. The original post contains three facts, one of which is simply wrong (there is a memory card socket) one of which is irrelevant (no headphone jack, but it supports bluetooth headsets, which are better) along with one assertion (not enough memory to be an mp3 or video player) which is either a conclusion based on the wrong fact or a ridiculous assertion that 128MB is too small to fit a player into.
So basically, the post contains 75% misinformation, and the information it does contain is painfully obvious.
Let's step back and look at what the phone itself is before we get into the software that runs on it. The hardware itself is a Samsung 2410 266MHz ARM9 with a 2.8-inch VGA touch screen. There are only two buttons on the phone, the rest is handled by the touch screen, a microSD slot, Bluetooth 2.0, and USB for connectivity and charging. It also has two 1W stereo speakers so you can repurpose it to an MP3 player or anything else you would like.
I feel just awful for them. They take your money, don't pay you interest, for the vague promise that they will give you an actual product for it sometime in the unspecified future.
It's not like the PS3 is the first system this has happened with.
sure, the diode is $5, but the bribes to export significant quantities of them runs around $1450/per.
:-(
I'm pretty sure Zonk would come up with something bad to say if it turned out that all the PS3 proceeds went towards buying orphans puppies.
Like IBM.
convergence: grab treo off charging station, walk out door.
sans convergence: grab cell phone, mp3 player, walk out door, walk back in door to get organizer, almost walk out door, realize you'll be sitting on the train for 45 minutes, walk back in to look for gameboy or a book, walk back out door.
it's not the mp3 player that sucks up the juice, it's the phone. If I turn the phone part of my treo off, the battery is good for ... I don't even know, I've never had the phone part off for that long. Longer than a 6-hour flight, anyway.
> The ONLY reason Sony is "launching" now is to have the official launch before the holiday season. That's it. They could've just as legitimately launched a month ago selling 500 consoles, it would be the same effect
Ok, what magic number do you need for a 'real' launch? Every console launch I can remember has been the same way. I couldn't buy a DS Lite for like 3 weeks, and when I finally got one, I couldn't find the games I wanted for another few weeks. Where was Zonk then? The XBox launch was the same (here at least, dunno about Japan), as was the PSP and the PS2.
This doesn't even touch on the more obvious question of "what about -any- of this is wrong in any way?" People with too much money get their units early, enterprising businessmen make some cash, and homeless guys make some money so they can sleep inside for a few nights.
If you want to bitch about this 'artificial scarcity' bullshit, talk to gamestop, who won't sell you a wii unless you buy it as part of a $600 package that includes another controller and a bunch of games. How do they get away with it? BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ENOUGH WIIS TO MEET DEMAND. And yet somehow, I think we may not hear anything from Zonk on the subject.
every console launch since the SNES has been the same goddamn way. That's just the way the business is. Remember the DS lite? Same goddamn deal, but we didn't hear Zonk denouncing Nintendo for that, now did we? Any bets as to whether there'll be plenty of Wiis to go around next week? Think I might have a tough time getting one in the first weeks?
"Update: 11/12 05:40 GMT by Z : You're right. Sony only shares a portion of the blame here. Offsides on my part."
Oh, they only share a portion of the blame? That's awfully magnanimous of you, but just exactly why should they take any blame? What should they have done? NOT sold a PS3 to someone because they looked shabby? Should they have insisted on some sort of contract that the customer signs that promises to not resell it?
This is just shameful. Honestly, did Zonk's mom used to beat him with a playstation or something? The constant Sony-bashing is just insane. And it's not like you have to look real far to find something they actually DID that was wrong.
> I think you are probably completely wrong there.
It's certainly possible. The article is a little light on details and I'm certainly no scholar on British law.
> I think it is most likely she has run afoul of the law for what you could call "contextual crimes"
Well, yeah, that much is pretty obvious.
> Her reading list isn't really what you expect from 22 year old girls, it it?
So? What I was reading at 22 wasn't what you would expect from a 22 year old boy either.
> Besides, police arrest or not, prosecutors charge or not, judges judge.
Right. And the police have to charge you with a crime when they arrest you (at least in the US). And that charge was, apparently, 'possesion of forbidden documents.' Which is to my way of thinking a little creepy.
> Forbidden in the context of terrorism, yes.
Right, I understand that. She was arrested for possessing certain literature and being suspected of terrism.
My point is that the charge against her is apparently "possession of forbidden documents." I understand the reason that she's a suspect.
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> they wouldnt have looked at her without
you're getting close to the "don't worry about making everything illegal, the cops will only arrest people they think are criminals" argument.
Sounds like she was arrested for possession to me. I'm sure the police have reasons to suspect her as a terrist as well, but unless I read TFA wrong, she was arrested for possession of forbidden documents.
the fact that you can actually sue someone for "unjust enrichment" is sort of awesome.
I have failed in my attempts to use the 'blockquote' tag successfully :(
well, yeah, it's not here yet. But I can't remember the last time I even heard anything like this from anyone else, modulus open source people. Can you?
next time you post some nonsense about how "all the slashdot people idolize google for some reason," this would be a good example of why we like them.
Sure, plus you forgot property taxes. Still, if it's working out to 50% taxes, you need a better accountant.
if you're paying 50% taxes, your first concern should be to get an accountant that knows which end of the pencil to use, not bitching about the concept of taxation.
> Let's face it - time is the one thing you can never get back.
This is exactly the kind of defeatist attitude that's stifling important time machine research in this country. Why, it's getting so that garage inventors can hardly afford a Delorean at all, much less buy the necessary conversion parts.
no, it's not. At least, that's not what I learned the definition as.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_sugar
i += 3 vs i = i + 3 is syntactic sugar. A switch that enforces type safety is something else.
This is hilarious. The original post contains three facts, one of which is simply wrong (there is a memory card socket) one of which is irrelevant (no headphone jack, but it supports bluetooth headsets, which are better) along with one assertion (not enough memory to be an mp3 or video player) which is either a conclusion based on the wrong fact or a ridiculous assertion that 128MB is too small to fit a player into.
So basically, the post contains 75% misinformation, and the information it does contain is painfully obvious.
And it's still +5 insightful.
> no memory card socket
what?
Let's step back and look at what the phone itself is before we get into the software that runs on it. The hardware itself is a Samsung 2410 266MHz ARM9 with a 2.8-inch VGA touch screen. There are only two buttons on the phone, the rest is handled by the touch screen, a microSD slot, Bluetooth 2.0, and USB for connectivity and charging. It also has two 1W stereo speakers so you can repurpose it to an MP3 player or anything else you would like.
> Because ActionScript IS JavaScript. Well, sort of - there are a number of extensions on top of it, but it's basically syntactic sugar.
Typesaftey isn't syntactic sugar.
Javascript:
var foo = 3;
foo = "butts";//this is ok
Actionscript:
var foo:Number = 3;
foo = "butts";//this is a compile-time error