About 45% of the trailers in the park where my parents and uncle live in the winter are up for sale, they're mostly owned by Americans. They can't even sell them for $15k/pop, the place is amazingly nice too(50 plus, co-op, pools, rec centre, gym, secured compound, etc).
I'm not surprised. It's a depreciating asset. Many people would be better off renting.
No it doesn't - the point I was making was that Oracle's counsel was describing the 11,500 lines as "code" when it wasn't, not in any meaningful way - and IMHO, class interface specifications should not be subject to copyright any more than recipes are.
It's not code (as in executable code), they are interface classes - declarations if you will - which implement no functionality at all but only specify how to interact with a subsystem.
Tucows was still around? I would have thought they'd have burned through any cash reserves and positive cash flow shortly after they burned through their goodwill.
Facts and logic, use them! If my argument is wrong demonstrate where I am wrong and provide a better argument. I don't care about feelings, I care about facts and logic (which often run counter feelings). The world you claim to be frightening is the same world that existed when SMTP was first established. The only difference is that people like you demand that security for you is more important than freedom for everyone else.
You don't like SMTP don't use it! Go make your own protocol and have a great time sitting by yourself on your internet island!
Responding to the bolded part.
Right. Are you seriously claiming that the internet of 1982 is the same as today, and that the threat model is the same?
They don't expect you to click on ads in every case. They expect you to remember WXY Corp when you're about to buy a widget or service they offer. Which is why they want their ads to be so obnoxious, so you will remember.
I do remember, but not in the way that obnoxious advertisers want me to. I'll go out of my way to avoid their products.
And yet, you're apparently perfectly OK with harming actual, living people who are innocent in this in your desire to punish the guilty artificial "persons".
How about fining the company and sending the people responsible for the fraud to prison instead of using a wrecking ball approach to justice?
Ah, I see, so because you're upset over the consequences of the Citizen's United decision (and rightfully so), you're willing to harm many thousands of innocent people in your quest for revenge.
I'd prefer it if they'd figure who the shitbird is who keeps dumping trash in the glass recycling bin and deal with him directly.
I mean for fuck's sake, the glass bin is *right next to* the the goddamned trash bin.
I can almost understand the laziness that keep people from sorting thier trash and recyclables, but for the love of Cthulhu, if you're not going to, at least put your goddamned trash in the trash bin so that the rest of us don't have to suffer your stupidity. Seriously, I'm about the laziest person in the world, and even I manage to sort my shit into the correct bin.
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How much is that in metric cubic asstons?
The average? Not very. The exceptional ones? Quite so.
That's not a debate. No one sane would willingly admit to liking Allman style brackets.
FTFY.
About 45% of the trailers in the park where my parents and uncle live in the winter are up for sale, they're mostly owned by Americans. They can't even sell them for $15k/pop, the place is amazingly nice too(50 plus, co-op, pools, rec centre, gym, secured compound, etc).
I'm not surprised. It's a depreciating asset. Many people would be better off renting.
To me it feels like the mid to late 70's did. Ugh, that was ugly. I was 10 going into 1980, and I could sense it was ugly.
So what I'm saying is.. maybe more people are dying off because things have been rotten for a couple of decades, and there's no end in sight?
Could just be me, though. I'm a pessimist by nature and by training. Meteorology and then IT? Yeah. Expect the worst, always =o)
This is nothing compared to the mid-late 1970s. Take what you have today and add inflation in the high teens, as well as interest rates.
No it doesn't - the point I was making was that Oracle's counsel was describing the 11,500 lines as "code" when it wasn't, not in any meaningful way - and IMHO, class interface specifications should not be subject to copyright any more than recipes are.
It's not code (as in executable code), they are interface classes - declarations if you will - which implement no functionality at all but only specify how to interact with a subsystem.
Oracle is engaging in hyperbole.
Tucows was still around? I would have thought they'd have burned through any cash reserves and positive cash flow shortly after they burned through their goodwill.
Fine. Shippy McShipface it is.
So it's dolphins all the way down, eh?
You missed a comma, you miserable cunt.
Wait wait wait... Let's get this straight.
You're arguing that something can't be a toy, because it's used to play the most games?
That sound about right to you?
The word you're looking for is "extortion".
Frankly, if and when this scheme is ever considered by our court system - which side the law favors is going to be telling.
Facts and logic, use them! If my argument is wrong demonstrate where I am wrong and provide a better argument. I don't care about feelings, I care about facts and logic (which often run counter feelings). The world you claim to be frightening is the same world that existed when SMTP was first established. The only difference is that people like you demand that security for you is more important than freedom for everyone else.
You don't like SMTP don't use it! Go make your own protocol and have a great time sitting by yourself on your internet island!
Responding to the bolded part.
Right. Are you seriously claiming that the internet of 1982 is the same as today, and that the threat model is the same?
Facts and logic, indeed.
Furthermore, what precisely does Taco Bell have to do with tacos? You certainly can't get one there.
No, that would be incorrect. If you're not free to go, you are under arrest.
No.
It's difficult to tell the difference between a *potential* terrorist and everyone else.
The terrorist is the guy hosing down a crowd with a Kalashnikov.
If you can get rid of the requirement for a pocket of air [...]
You cannot, not without sacrificing the ability to surface and change depth.
Good luck with that.
So we should allow prudes to dictate the manner in which we express ourselves?
No.
Fuck that.
They don't expect you to click on ads in every case. They expect you to remember WXY Corp when you're about to buy a widget or service they offer. Which is why they want their ads to be so obnoxious, so you will remember.
I do remember, but not in the way that obnoxious advertisers want me to. I'll go out of my way to avoid their products.
Supermicro X9 server boards come with IPMI and are not particularly expensive.
And yet, you're apparently perfectly OK with harming actual, living people who are innocent in this in your desire to punish the guilty artificial "persons".
How about fining the company and sending the people responsible for the fraud to prison instead of using a wrecking ball approach to justice?
Ah, I see, so because you're upset over the consequences of the Citizen's United decision (and rightfully so), you're willing to harm many thousands of innocent people in your quest for revenge.
Awesome.
Let's punish all the people who work at VW dealerships and manufacturing plants.
You know, those people who had fuck all to do with the fraud.
I'd prefer it if they'd figure who the shitbird is who keeps dumping trash in the glass recycling bin and deal with him directly.
I mean for fuck's sake, the glass bin is *right next to* the the goddamned trash bin.
I can almost understand the laziness that keep people from sorting thier trash and recyclables, but for the love of Cthulhu, if you're not going to, at least put your goddamned trash in the trash bin so that the rest of us don't have to suffer your stupidity. Seriously, I'm about the laziest person in the world, and even I manage to sort my shit into the correct bin.