Really, everything wrong with gaming on linux can be found here. Read the comments. To sum it up, according to the guy who created Braid, Linux is seriously lacking in modern development tools.
Never played the Wii version. The real versions are throwbacks to old school shooter madness where the number one goal is a high score. Geometry wars 2 is great because it's essentially 6 different games in one. It is an easy game to learn, but takes a long time to master. Check out some youtube clips.
I thought the concept was awesome, but I felt like they made it a little too difficult, and this is coming from someone who beat all the original NES MM's using only the blaster on bosses. They used the disappearing blocks a tad generously I felt. It wasn't nearly as fun as the old ones, just frustrating.
very usable opensource 2D/3D drivers in less than half a year
I seem to recall an article maybe two years ago about Intel open-sourcing their video card drivers, and everybody said they'd be moving to Intel cards. People gotta realize that open source isn't some magical philosophy where the code opens up and then starts writing itself. Is it a coincidence that the best supported graphics hardware on linux is powered by closed-source drivers? I guess we'll find out.
How is UAC different from sudo? Why do I never hear the need to enter a password for the graphical sudo box that pops up just as often as Vista's UAC box?
More like Windows ME 2, do they really think people will buy it when they haven't sorted out the problems with vista.
Do you actually use Vista? Or is this typical ignorant slashdot drivel? I use Vista at home, I use Vista at work. I have had absolutely no issue with it. Let me qualify this by saying until a couple months ago I also used OS X 10.4 at home, and I also currently dual boot into Ubuntu. Vista has been far more stable than both of these, and the support is no contest.
Now let me ask again, do you actually *use* Vista? Or are you regurgitating tired old perceptions because of a fanboyish allegiance to a free operating system?
God help you, simple Slashdot poster, if you violate the holy rule. Windows = Hatred; Linux = Praise.
Yes, the generally insufferable Slashdot crowd. I've endured the inevitable downmods of un-inflammatory Microsoft remarks or constructively crticical linux remarks and maintained my Excellent karma status with the occasiona.... OH MY GOD A FLYING CHAIR.
The community does not magically embrace things for your benefit..
How is Chrome getting ported to linux for their benefit? Do you think google is salivating over Linux' sub 1% desktop market share?
The community serves the community
So let me get this straight: Corporations should serve the community. The community serves the community. The community does not embrace corporations. Quiet a sense of entitlement you have there.
They are just taking longer than they should to release it for Macux.
See, this is what I don't get. Linux folk claim they want companies to throw them a bone and open source their software and the "community" will do the rest. It sounds good when they say it, but why is it never the case?
I agree with everything you said. The OP's argument was that OSS has inherently good support, while the opposite is true for CSS. In arguing that point, I could see how it would come across that I was saying the opposite, but that is not the case.
Ignoring for the moment this discussion was posted under "developers", and therefore relates to the actual people who CAN fix it themselves, I'll respond more generally.
I'm a developer. That doesn't mean I have the skill set to and muck with the java vm. It also doesn't mean I have time to learn and understand any particular code base to make a fix.
Being at the mercy of "anyone whom you wish to find to fix the problem" (which may or may not include the maintainer) is a lot better than being at the mercy of one entity (the license owner).
Sure, in a perfect world where people gladly donate their time to cater to your particular need . This is an empty argument. Just because, hypothetically, someone can fix it, doesn't mean they will, and in my experience over the year, they won't.
The difference is that with closed source software you HAVE to have a lot of weight to throw around to get it fixed.
It's no different in the OSS world. Most OSS worth anything has funded development by people with weight to throw around. Ubuntu linux is popular because someone had a bunch of money and threw their weight around. The benefit to it being open source is that anyone can use it, but without weight to throw around, unless they are a skilled developer with a lot of time on their hands, they have little to no chance that their particular needs will be catered to.
As far as large corps go, they're MUCH better off with open source software, since they can just throw some money at the problem and get it fixed. If they bought the support contract from a 3rd party, even better.
Is that why most large corps are running Microsoft on the desktop and closed source unix implementations on the back end? You can't hold some non-entity accountable when their open source product fails. The whole "no warranty" clause is a pretty big deal when you're big business. Third party support can't cover that.
Linux is slow because there are a million non-standard abstraction layers so that users can be "free" and have "choices." I choose something that works, well, and it's definitely not linux (on the desktop, more specifically).
No, because the OS is closed source you'll always be at the mercy of the license provider to boost performance. Honestly, how much does Microsoft _really_ care about Java performance? Not a hell of a lot.
This is a typical OSS fallacy. "It's open, that means you can fix everything yourself!" Please. 99.9% of people who have an issue with OSS are at the mercy of the maintainer, whose license states that their software comes with no warranty. Much to the contrary, when you pay for a license you have more weight to throw around. Maybe not so much as an individual licensee, but corporations can certainly raise a stink and get issues resolved quickly.
Even the most robust Linux software *is* that way because of support contracts, paid development driven by industry demands.
Yes, but anyone technically inclined enough to install a non-default browser is less likely to be tricked into visiting a website that can exploit a vulnerability, so there is a social engineering aspect to this as well.
I wouldn't expect slashdot to look at this objectively, but the GP is correct. The only reason exploits are such a big deal with IE is because of the sheer size of the installed base.
No hacker worth his salt is going to go looking for exploits in a browser with 10% market share. Also contributing to the viability of IE exploits is the fact that if you're running IE, you're running Windows so you know the target OS.
It's not defective by design, it's defective by popular demand. This is hardly Microsoft's fault. You could say they've been doing everything in their power the last couple years to deter people from actually using their browser.
ext2/ext3 don't seem to be on the list but apparently the source for everything is provided, so hopefully some enterprising soul can apply the same techniques to ext2
Corrected:
ext2/ext3 don't seem to be on the list but apparently the source for everything is provided, so the maintainer will be harassed for this feature while the "community" sits idly by.
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Really, everything wrong with gaming on linux can be found here. Read the comments. To sum it up, according to the guy who created Braid, Linux is seriously lacking in modern development tools.
Let's all take a moment to apologize to Bobtree for his wasted time clicking on this news story.
Sorry Bobtree.
Never played the Wii version. The real versions are throwbacks to old school shooter madness where the number one goal is a high score. Geometry wars 2 is great because it's essentially 6 different games in one. It is an easy game to learn, but takes a long time to master. Check out some youtube clips.
Mega Man 9 is awesome.
I thought the concept was awesome, but I felt like they made it a little too difficult, and this is coming from someone who beat all the original NES MM's using only the blaster on bosses. They used the disappearing blocks a tad generously I felt. It wasn't nearly as fun as the old ones, just frustrating.
Best example of this in recent gaming history, geometry wars and geometry wars 2. I highly suggest checking them out...
very usable opensource 2D/3D drivers in less than half a year
I seem to recall an article maybe two years ago about Intel open-sourcing their video card drivers, and everybody said they'd be moving to Intel cards. People gotta realize that open source isn't some magical philosophy where the code opens up and then starts writing itself. Is it a coincidence that the best supported graphics hardware on linux is powered by closed-source drivers? I guess we'll find out.
Off topic would have been more appropriate. Let's see if they get it right with this post... :)
Nice! Modded redundant, like the 6th comment in the thread with nothing even remotely close to it. Stay classy, anonymous moderator.
2009 will be the year of the Windows desktop.
How is UAC different from sudo? Why do I never hear the need to enter a password for the graphical sudo box that pops up just as often as Vista's UAC box?
More like Windows ME 2, do they really think people will buy it when they haven't sorted out the problems with vista.
Do you actually use Vista? Or is this typical ignorant slashdot drivel? I use Vista at home, I use Vista at work. I have had absolutely no issue with it. Let me qualify this by saying until a couple months ago I also used OS X 10.4 at home, and I also currently dual boot into Ubuntu. Vista has been far more stable than both of these, and the support is no contest.
Now let me ask again, do you actually *use* Vista? Or are you regurgitating tired old perceptions because of a fanboyish allegiance to a free operating system?
God help you, simple Slashdot poster, if you violate the holy rule. Windows = Hatred; Linux = Praise.
Yes, the generally insufferable Slashdot crowd. I've endured the inevitable downmods of un-inflammatory Microsoft remarks or constructively crticical linux remarks and maintained my Excellent karma status with the occasiona.... OH MY GOD A FLYING CHAIR.
The community does not magically embrace things for your benefit..
How is Chrome getting ported to linux for their benefit? Do you think google is salivating over Linux' sub 1% desktop market share?
The community serves the community
So let me get this straight: Corporations should serve the community. The community serves the community. The community does not embrace corporations. Quiet a sense of entitlement you have there.
They are just taking longer than they should to release it for Macux.
See, this is what I don't get. Linux folk claim they want companies to throw them a bone and open source their software and the "community" will do the rest. It sounds good when they say it, but why is it never the case?
privacy modes*
* I've found this to be an excellent way to use an admin login on a site where I also have regular user credentials.
Well played, sir. Well played.
And add another layer to the tinfoil hat, just in case.
I agree with everything you said. The OP's argument was that OSS has inherently good support, while the opposite is true for CSS. In arguing that point, I could see how it would come across that I was saying the opposite, but that is not the case.
Ignoring for the moment this discussion was posted under "developers", and therefore relates to the actual people who CAN fix it themselves, I'll respond more generally.
I'm a developer. That doesn't mean I have the skill set to and muck with the java vm. It also doesn't mean I have time to learn and understand any particular code base to make a fix.
Being at the mercy of "anyone whom you wish to find to fix the problem" (which may or may not include the maintainer) is a lot better than being at the mercy of one entity (the license owner).
Sure, in a perfect world where people gladly donate their time to cater to your particular need . This is an empty argument. Just because, hypothetically, someone can fix it, doesn't mean they will, and in my experience over the year, they won't.
The difference is that with closed source software you HAVE to have a lot of weight to throw around to get it fixed.
It's no different in the OSS world. Most OSS worth anything has funded development by people with weight to throw around. Ubuntu linux is popular because someone had a bunch of money and threw their weight around. The benefit to it being open source is that anyone can use it, but without weight to throw around, unless they are a skilled developer with a lot of time on their hands, they have little to no chance that their particular needs will be catered to.
As far as large corps go, they're MUCH better off with open source software, since they can just throw some money at the problem and get it fixed. If they bought the support contract from a 3rd party, even better.
Is that why most large corps are running Microsoft on the desktop and closed source unix implementations on the back end? You can't hold some non-entity accountable when their open source product fails. The whole "no warranty" clause is a pretty big deal when you're big business. Third party support can't cover that.
Linux is slow because there are a million non-standard abstraction layers so that users can be "free" and have "choices." I choose something that works, well, and it's definitely not linux (on the desktop, more specifically).
No, because the OS is closed source you'll always be at the mercy of the license provider to boost performance. Honestly, how much does Microsoft _really_ care about Java performance? Not a hell of a lot.
This is a typical OSS fallacy. "It's open, that means you can fix everything yourself!" Please. 99.9% of people who have an issue with OSS are at the mercy of the maintainer, whose license states that their software comes with no warranty. Much to the contrary, when you pay for a license you have more weight to throw around. Maybe not so much as an individual licensee, but corporations can certainly raise a stink and get issues resolved quickly.
Even the most robust Linux software *is* that way because of support contracts, paid development driven by industry demands.
Yes, but anyone technically inclined enough to install a non-default browser is less likely to be tricked into visiting a website that can exploit a vulnerability, so there is a social engineering aspect to this as well.
I wouldn't expect slashdot to look at this objectively, but the GP is correct. The only reason exploits are such a big deal with IE is because of the sheer size of the installed base.
No hacker worth his salt is going to go looking for exploits in a browser with 10% market share. Also contributing to the viability of IE exploits is the fact that if you're running IE, you're running Windows so you know the target OS.
It's not defective by design, it's defective by popular demand. This is hardly Microsoft's fault. You could say they've been doing everything in their power the last couple years to deter people from actually using their browser.
ext2/ext3 don't seem to be on the list but apparently the source for everything is provided, so hopefully some enterprising soul can apply the same techniques to ext2
Corrected:
ext2/ext3 don't seem to be on the list but apparently the source for everything is provided, so the maintainer will be harassed for this feature while the "community" sits idly by.
(like...umm...html?)
Exactly -- HTML, javascript, the video tag and the canvas tag is really where it's at, once they are generally supported.
Hah... Also in Wisconsin, and Vista has been rock solid for me as well. Maybe it's all the cheese.