This is true. Nothing to stop a someone from creating a batch edit on their music library to change the email (AND OTHER IDENTIFYING INFORMATION HIDDEN IN THE MUSIC FILE) and to have them uploaded to the net.
One thing Apple said about DRM was it made no sense to have DRM on iTunes when there's no DRM on the CDs that one can buy, rip, and upload.
So, it makes no sense to put the email in the file as there's no email stored on the CDs.
As well, it makes no sense to put the email in there as it can be altered. One would never need to add a matching or CRC'd email address to keep the files from being corrupt instead they'd just need to blank it out or add anything that would pass the CRC check.
Putting this information in is totally pointless.
WHAT I WOULD QUESTION WOULD BE THEM DOING IT TO MUSIC YOU PLAY THROUGH ITUNES THAT YOU DIDN'T BUY FROM THEIR STORE.
When/if that happens iTunes will suffer a dramatic decline in use and sales.
I don't want Microsoft in my life. They are criminally convicted monopolists. The world needs to move on to companies that can abide by the laws. We don't need the influences of Microsoft any more. We are no longer babies needing their hand holding. The industry is maturing. We need less Microsoft and more competition, especially in the OS and Office type application markets.
Would be nice if these guys would focus some on satisfying the other OS markets. There's absolutely no need for them to take such tremendous advantage of Open Source and then neglect them in such a long term way as they have with Chrome.
You are saying that it was OK for the RIAA lawyers to claim to the judge that making available is considered distribution, and even basing it on a decision that they knew was overturned before they told the judge? This is the exact same type of behavior they've been continuing.
Big business and lawyers are essentially doing things (anything almost) that they want knowing that the public is not educated enough in the laws in those areas. They do it till it looses cost effectiveness. They only quit when the courts start to take large sums of money from them.
I say large businesses and lawyers for a reason. Here's an example: With Vista, Microsoft has installed 47+ programs on your computer to spy on you. There are more; and that doesn't include the WGA/WGN programs. These are applications that collect information about what you do and report it back to Microsoft. When you bought the machine and you started up the OS the first time you are required to agree to the EULA. The EULA is a document that you can't possibly have any idea of its meaning nor the impact of that meaning, and you didn't get to negotiate it. The result is that you unknowingly give them this permission. The only way to deny it is to not use their software. But which software to use? Well, use one that doesn't force this sort of crap on you.
So, you give them permission without really knowing it that allows them to spy on you. Would you let Walmart enter your home and search it for potential stolen goods? Would you let them put a camera in your home to monitor you? Would you let the police do this in order to ensure you are not breaking any laws? Of course you wouldn't. No one in their right mind would. Yet, your computer is an extension of your home and business and you are giving Microsoft permission to do this.
This is a violation of your privacy and most people don't know that they are doing this. When someone points it out you (or others) debate it till you are blue in the face and the conclusion is that you are not a lawyer so you should STFU.
Microsoft has learned that they can simply ignore some of these issues till they go away, such as the outrage over them installing the 47+ programs on your computer because the public memory is very short. It's like Linux. You used to hear the word Linux from Microsoft. Now you never hear the word from their mouths as if they are trying to say that we don't acknowledge it is even a product.
This is precisely the reasoning and tactics of the large businesses and the lawyers behind them. Are they protecting their clients or are they violating yours?
They know you are incapable of fighting it so they do it until the regulators start to tell them to stop or face punishment (but large companies such as Microsoft can even afford large punishments (e.g., the EU fines for non-compliance is a great example of blatant non-compliance with a legal court's orders--because Microsoft thought they were too important to the economy of the EU to have them actually follow through)).
As long as laws are created and they are strategized by lawyers that are not held to higher standards, we'll have every sort of abuse possible. And to then appoint one of these maniac lawyers to an important position is beyond most people's tolerance that understand what's been happening.
It is the attorney's that strategize the attack. So, you are attacking the lawyer's tactics and thus the lawyer himself. And, there's no need to defend a lawyer. Get real.
The key to this is to find out who the ISP is for those that are responsible for the law and send the accusatory letters to their ISPs in order to get them cut off.
So far the only questionable selection that concerns me.
The RIAA have been misusing the DMCA for the longest period of time. The person that drafted the law even admits that the RIAA is abusing the law.
Now we have a lawyer, however intellectual, that has acted utterly un-smart, being appointed from "a lobbying organization"; which are supposed to be an antithesis to the Obama adminstration.
I mean, really, listen to those videos that made it to the net from those lawyers that were part of the RIAA; those that lobbied to convince law enforcement that copying music is contributory to money laundering. And now you have Obama appointing one of those crazies to an important position.
After using kde4 for quite some time on several occasions over an extended period of time there is no way anyone, imho, could ever consider it a tech victory. microsoft is laughing all the way to the bank.
it doesn't even have a desktop.
i use linux for everything. these ppl need to rethink their approach to their decision on how to implement a desktop in kde4.
Most likely the state gets much of it's revenue from gas taxes. He's talking about weakening Oregon by forcing citizens to drive less. And how about those that drive though the state from other states such as WA and CA? Time to vote in a new Governor.
The very nature of open source means that it wins in the long run. Software parity will be achieved sooner or later. There's only so many features you can add to any given application and as a result they will all do the same things, period.
Open source has many more minds and many more ideas that will spring from those minds and those ideas will be implemented. It is that simple.
When Open Source achieves that parity the choice will be between free and paid for the same features. People will chose free given the same set of features. Even if Microsoft tries to play the marketing game that Apple plays sooner or later that will also fall by the wayside and people will chose free over paid over perceived quality.
Right now Microsoft is selling the idea that Windows is superior because it is polished. Open Source will gain polish. It's the nature of open source. You can't get away from it. It's that simple. As more and more minds work on a project over time the project becomes refined, polished. There's no question.
So, the scenario is that Linux will build and grow to the point that even if it takes years and years it will surpass the retail versions. This is precisely what frightens Microsoft. When Linux Distros were wallowing in their own shit (the shit of the zealot) we had lack of polish and no direction. Now we have direction and polish. This frightens the hell out of Microsoft.
Can we please keep SUSE out of slashdot? I use linux for everything but Novell is pretty much a traitor and I want nothing to do with them. I'd hope others will remember how Microsoft is manipulating Novell to abscond with Open Source. Remember Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
I don't think the gamers and the script kiddies, along with the movie pirates are willing to widthdraw their bandwidth use to give you more to download porn.
They can give their memory away for free. That's not dumping.
Dumping is selling below the cost to manufacture in order to achieve or increase market share.
If I make memory with the intent of giving it away in the first place that's not dumping either.
And even dumping isn't necessarily illegal. Apple dumps iTunes (the program on us) to make it easier for you to use their other products. You might argue that it is a bundling of their software with the iPod/iPhone but you'd be wrong. The reason is that the use of iTunes is not limited to those that own an iPod/iPhone.
There are many media player applications that are given away by big companies for free, not excluding WMP. What these guys hope is that down the road you will be familiar enough with their offering that when the time comes for you to make other purchases such as movies and music you'll do it through them.
The dumping of memory is a bad example as it has it's roots in the Asian companies dumping it in the American markets in an effort to destroy the failing domestic memory market. Their goal back then was to kill the American businesses.
Software is global and easily reproducible and easily imitated. So, technically it's not really possible to dump software on the market as it isn't a physical entity.
I added 5 new linux users this week. That's a wonderful accomplishment. These are true users not those that swap Windows in and out.
Their reasons are varied:
1) They don't need or use Windows programs and the linux versions are very good and exceptionally capable. They understand that using pirated software hurts open source.
2) They want to stay free of malware and what they do to get in trouble isn't eliminated, it just eliminates the threat as there's no more Windows to infect.
3) To them it makes sense to us Linux as it does everything they want with the exception of a few things that they can rise above.
4) Computers that ran Win98 would have difficulty under XP and would be unbearable under Vista can run Linux easily with the power and features that exceed Vista. They can do this without the need to pirate Win2k or staying with the POS that Win98 is.
I applaud them and I hope that more people can turn people on to Linux. I hope this for many reasons, not the least of which is to combat piracy. See, there's no need to steal software under Linux as most, if not all, of it is free.
A while back some guys derided open source because it was killing their product. Actually, it wasn't killing their product it was just changing the business market.
What the bozo at that company couldn't understand was that the problem lay with them, not with open source.
They had a product where open source competed directly. They felt that the open source version was so close to theirs that it was taking away their revenues because people were opting for the open source instead of their product.
What this means is that they weren't adjusting fast enough to create products that were worth choosing the paid version. This is the same thing. These guys won't adjust fast enough and produce fast enough to actually keep ahead of what open source is able to do.
What does this really mean? It means that unless commercial product developers get off their lazy asses and build faster and better tools their competition is going to catch up. This is the same for everyone everywhere, not just them, and certainly not just the company related in this story.
It means that commercial and open source products will gain parity sooner or later, hopefully sooner and we'll see that the level head prevails. The level head is the one that chooses the best product for the price. That means that open source (once parity is attained) will be the better choice.
It also means that we will be able to get rid of the likes of predatory companies such as Microsoft, sooner or later. The sooner the better. On top of getting rid of Microsoft we'll have better products than they can produce.
I hope Microsoft is paying attention here. Open source will overcome them sooner or later. If it takes another 20 years then so be it. But it will happen.
Microsoft, get rid of the draconian DRM from the heart of your OS, stop accusing everyone of being a thief, cooperate with open standards and stop trying to usurp them with your closed standards in order to lock your customers into different products. Then, maybe you'll have a chance in the long run.
Business case studies have shown that no company has held top spot for 2 consecutive decades running. Microsoft has. Microsoft is trying for a third. It won't hold. This is the start of the decline. As we understand that their "added" complexity (unnecessarily added) is reduced to easy reproduction through open source (concepts they intentional made far excessive in complexity is sifted through and made easier for the average person) we will be able to overcome their lock in models and that will send Microsoft on a slide. They'll always be there, just as IBM is there but they'll never again be able to hold everyone in a choke hold forcing them to use their product.
I fix computers ever day. For the past 4 years the majority of my time is spent removing malware from computers. I can tell you unequivocally that the add-ons to the browser, though they are a threat, are not the primary way that computers get infected (while using IE).
One of the things that I do is look at the add-ons to see what is installed, what is known to be bad, and what is unknown and a possible threat.
Very few infection issues come from the add-ons as the primary source of infection. When one investigates the infections it is obvious that some are coming from add-ons but not primarily. Most are coming from defects in the OS that allow the nefariously infected site to add software without the customer's knowledge.
The problem here is that most of you, yes you slashdot participants, are totally ignorant of all the really nasty flaws in the Windows OS. If you don't want to get infected stay the fuck away from Internet Explorer. There are better browsers out there and you can significantly reduce your chance of infection by using them.
Microsoft is lazy when it comes to security. Now, of course BHOs are an issue, just not the primary issue and to have Microsoft make that statement endangers every IE user.
Malware does not generally get on through requesting permission from the user, though sometimes users are prompted. These messages are either JS or a Windows prompt to install something, but those Microsoft messages are extremely unclear.
So, even if the BHO is an issue for any given machine the problem is in the lazy nature of Microsoft (which presents cryptic messages that the average person doesn't understand) and in order to rid themselves of the popup message they OK it.
This means that the foundation (the basic design) is wrong and it is wrong at the heart of the OS not just in IE's use of BHOs. Firefox for instance has a significantly different design for add-ons which help greatly in ensuring that infection doesn't occur as a result of them.
The Windows OS is a swiss cheese of security and one of those holes is IE and one smaller hole is the add-on (BHO). To say that the BHO is the primary cause of infection is to give an erection to those writing this shit cause they know Microsoft is on the wrong fucking track, and Microsoft is in denial.
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This is true. Nothing to stop a someone from creating a batch edit on their music library to change the email (AND OTHER IDENTIFYING INFORMATION HIDDEN IN THE MUSIC FILE) and to have them uploaded to the net.
One thing Apple said about DRM was it made no sense to have DRM on iTunes when there's no DRM on the CDs that one can buy, rip, and upload.
So, it makes no sense to put the email in the file as there's no email stored on the CDs.
As well, it makes no sense to put the email in there as it can be altered. One would never need to add a matching or CRC'd email address to keep the files from being corrupt instead they'd just need to blank it out or add anything that would pass the CRC check.
Putting this information in is totally pointless.
WHAT I WOULD QUESTION WOULD BE THEM DOING IT TO MUSIC YOU PLAY THROUGH ITUNES THAT YOU DIDN'T BUY FROM THEIR STORE.
When/if that happens iTunes will suffer a dramatic decline in use and sales.
The RIAA would love to try you for murder and execute you for uploading music to the net.
I don't want Microsoft in my life. They are criminally convicted monopolists. The world needs to move on to companies that can abide by the laws. We don't need the influences of Microsoft any more. We are no longer babies needing their hand holding. The industry is maturing. We need less Microsoft and more competition, especially in the OS and Office type application markets.
Would be nice if these guys would focus some on satisfying the other OS markets. There's absolutely no need for them to take such tremendous advantage of Open Source and then neglect them in such a long term way as they have with Chrome.
You are saying that it was OK for the RIAA lawyers to claim to the judge that making available is considered distribution, and even basing it on a decision that they knew was overturned before they told the judge? This is the exact same type of behavior they've been continuing.
Big business and lawyers are essentially doing things (anything almost) that they want knowing that the public is not educated enough in the laws in those areas. They do it till it looses cost effectiveness. They only quit when the courts start to take large sums of money from them.
I say large businesses and lawyers for a reason. Here's an example: With Vista, Microsoft has installed 47+ programs on your computer to spy on you. There are more; and that doesn't include the WGA/WGN programs. These are applications that collect information about what you do and report it back to Microsoft. When you bought the machine and you started up the OS the first time you are required to agree to the EULA. The EULA is a document that you can't possibly have any idea of its meaning nor the impact of that meaning, and you didn't get to negotiate it. The result is that you unknowingly give them this permission. The only way to deny it is to not use their software. But which software to use? Well, use one that doesn't force this sort of crap on you.
So, you give them permission without really knowing it that allows them to spy on you. Would you let Walmart enter your home and search it for potential stolen goods? Would you let them put a camera in your home to monitor you? Would you let the police do this in order to ensure you are not breaking any laws? Of course you wouldn't. No one in their right mind would. Yet, your computer is an extension of your home and business and you are giving Microsoft permission to do this.
This is a violation of your privacy and most people don't know that they are doing this. When someone points it out you (or others) debate it till you are blue in the face and the conclusion is that you are not a lawyer so you should STFU.
Microsoft has learned that they can simply ignore some of these issues till they go away, such as the outrage over them installing the 47+ programs on your computer because the public memory is very short. It's like Linux. You used to hear the word Linux from Microsoft. Now you never hear the word from their mouths as if they are trying to say that we don't acknowledge it is even a product.
This is precisely the reasoning and tactics of the large businesses and the lawyers behind them. Are they protecting their clients or are they violating yours?
They know you are incapable of fighting it so they do it until the regulators start to tell them to stop or face punishment (but large companies such as Microsoft can even afford large punishments (e.g., the EU fines for non-compliance is a great example of blatant non-compliance with a legal court's orders--because Microsoft thought they were too important to the economy of the EU to have them actually follow through)).
As long as laws are created and they are strategized by lawyers that are not held to higher standards, we'll have every sort of abuse possible. And to then appoint one of these maniac lawyers to an important position is beyond most people's tolerance that understand what's been happening.
Lol, you should be Bush's press secretary.
It is the attorney's that strategize the attack. So, you are attacking the lawyer's tactics and thus the lawyer himself. And, there's no need to defend a lawyer. Get real.
The key to this is to find out who the ISP is for those that are responsible for the law and send the accusatory letters to their ISPs in order to get them cut off.
So far the only questionable selection that concerns me.
The RIAA have been misusing the DMCA for the longest period of time. The person that drafted the law even admits that the RIAA is abusing the law.
Now we have a lawyer, however intellectual, that has acted utterly un-smart, being appointed from "a lobbying organization"; which are supposed to be an antithesis to the Obama adminstration.
I mean, really, listen to those videos that made it to the net from those lawyers that were part of the RIAA; those that lobbied to convince law enforcement that copying music is contributory to money laundering. And now you have Obama appointing one of those crazies to an important position.
Read this post:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1020071
After using kde4 for quite some time on several occasions over an extended period of time there is no way anyone, imho, could ever consider it a tech victory. microsoft is laughing all the way to the bank.
it doesn't even have a desktop.
i use linux for everything. these ppl need to rethink their approach to their decision on how to implement a desktop in kde4.
Most likely the state gets much of it's revenue from gas taxes. He's talking about weakening Oregon by forcing citizens to drive less. And how about those that drive though the state from other states such as WA and CA? Time to vote in a new Governor.
The very nature of open source means that it wins in the long run. Software parity will be achieved sooner or later. There's only so many features you can add to any given application and as a result they will all do the same things, period.
Open source has many more minds and many more ideas that will spring from those minds and those ideas will be implemented. It is that simple.
When Open Source achieves that parity the choice will be between free and paid for the same features. People will chose free given the same set of features. Even if Microsoft tries to play the marketing game that Apple plays sooner or later that will also fall by the wayside and people will chose free over paid over perceived quality.
Right now Microsoft is selling the idea that Windows is superior because it is polished. Open Source will gain polish. It's the nature of open source. You can't get away from it. It's that simple. As more and more minds work on a project over time the project becomes refined, polished. There's no question.
So, the scenario is that Linux will build and grow to the point that even if it takes years and years it will surpass the retail versions. This is precisely what frightens Microsoft. When Linux Distros were wallowing in their own shit (the shit of the zealot) we had lack of polish and no direction. Now we have direction and polish. This frightens the hell out of Microsoft.
Heh, can't figure this one out on your own?
You don't help them violate your privacy.
Heh, can't figure this one out on your own?
You don't help them violate your privacy.
Can we please keep SUSE out of slashdot? I use linux for everything but Novell is pretty much a traitor and I want nothing to do with them. I'd hope others will remember how Microsoft is manipulating Novell to abscond with Open Source. Remember Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
I believe the distribution of the binaries is enough to require distribution of the source.
Time to educate him on the incredibly bad effect Microsoft has had on the industry. Time to get him off Microsoft's products altogether.
I don't think the gamers and the script kiddies, along with the movie pirates are willing to widthdraw their bandwidth use to give you more to download porn.
He's a bitch of comcast, microsoft et al. He's pathetic.
They can give their memory away for free. That's not dumping.
Dumping is selling below the cost to manufacture in order to achieve or increase market share.
If I make memory with the intent of giving it away in the first place that's not dumping either.
And even dumping isn't necessarily illegal. Apple dumps iTunes (the program on us) to make it easier for you to use their other products. You might argue that it is a bundling of their software with the iPod/iPhone but you'd be wrong. The reason is that the use of iTunes is not limited to those that own an iPod/iPhone.
There are many media player applications that are given away by big companies for free, not excluding WMP. What these guys hope is that down the road you will be familiar enough with their offering that when the time comes for you to make other purchases such as movies and music you'll do it through them.
The dumping of memory is a bad example as it has it's roots in the Asian companies dumping it in the American markets in an effort to destroy the failing domestic memory market. Their goal back then was to kill the American businesses.
Software is global and easily reproducible and easily imitated. So, technically it's not really possible to dump software on the market as it isn't a physical entity.
I couldn't agree with you more.
And on a side note:
I added 5 new linux users this week. That's a wonderful accomplishment. These are true users not those that swap Windows in and out.
Their reasons are varied:
1) They don't need or use Windows programs and the linux versions are very good and exceptionally capable. They understand that using pirated software hurts open source.
2) They want to stay free of malware and what they do to get in trouble isn't eliminated, it just eliminates the threat as there's no more Windows to infect.
3) To them it makes sense to us Linux as it does everything they want with the exception of a few things that they can rise above.
4) Computers that ran Win98 would have difficulty under XP and would be unbearable under Vista can run Linux easily with the power and features that exceed Vista. They can do this without the need to pirate Win2k or staying with the POS that Win98 is.
I applaud them and I hope that more people can turn people on to Linux. I hope this for many reasons, not the least of which is to combat piracy. See, there's no need to steal software under Linux as most, if not all, of it is free.
Keep in mind that one of the most sacred marketing concepts is that you never ever....
use price as your USP (unique selling proposition).
A while back some guys derided open source because it was killing their product. Actually, it wasn't killing their product it was just changing the business market.
What the bozo at that company couldn't understand was that the problem lay with them, not with open source.
They had a product where open source competed directly. They felt that the open source version was so close to theirs that it was taking away their revenues because people were opting for the open source instead of their product.
What this means is that they weren't adjusting fast enough to create products that were worth choosing the paid version. This is the same thing. These guys won't adjust fast enough and produce fast enough to actually keep ahead of what open source is able to do.
What does this really mean? It means that unless commercial product developers get off their lazy asses and build faster and better tools their competition is going to catch up. This is the same for everyone everywhere, not just them, and certainly not just the company related in this story.
It means that commercial and open source products will gain parity sooner or later, hopefully sooner and we'll see that the level head prevails. The level head is the one that chooses the best product for the price. That means that open source (once parity is attained) will be the better choice.
It also means that we will be able to get rid of the likes of predatory companies such as Microsoft, sooner or later. The sooner the better. On top of getting rid of Microsoft we'll have better products than they can produce.
I hope Microsoft is paying attention here. Open source will overcome them sooner or later. If it takes another 20 years then so be it. But it will happen.
Microsoft, get rid of the draconian DRM from the heart of your OS, stop accusing everyone of being a thief, cooperate with open standards and stop trying to usurp them with your closed standards in order to lock your customers into different products. Then, maybe you'll have a chance in the long run.
Business case studies have shown that no company has held top spot for 2 consecutive decades running. Microsoft has. Microsoft is trying for a third. It won't hold. This is the start of the decline. As we understand that their "added" complexity (unnecessarily added) is reduced to easy reproduction through open source (concepts they intentional made far excessive in complexity is sifted through and made easier for the average person) we will be able to overcome their lock in models and that will send Microsoft on a slide. They'll always be there, just as IBM is there but they'll never again be able to hold everyone in a choke hold forcing them to use their product.
I fix computers ever day. For the past 4 years the majority of my time is spent removing malware from computers. I can tell you unequivocally that the add-ons to the browser, though they are a threat, are not the primary way that computers get infected (while using IE).
One of the things that I do is look at the add-ons to see what is installed, what is known to be bad, and what is unknown and a possible threat.
Very few infection issues come from the add-ons as the primary source of infection. When one investigates the infections it is obvious that some are coming from add-ons but not primarily. Most are coming from defects in the OS that allow the nefariously infected site to add software without the customer's knowledge.
The problem here is that most of you, yes you slashdot participants, are totally ignorant of all the really nasty flaws in the Windows OS. If you don't want to get infected stay the fuck away from Internet Explorer. There are better browsers out there and you can significantly reduce your chance of infection by using them.
Microsoft is lazy when it comes to security. Now, of course BHOs are an issue, just not the primary issue and to have Microsoft make that statement endangers every IE user.
Malware does not generally get on through requesting permission from the user, though sometimes users are prompted. These messages are either JS or a Windows prompt to install something, but those Microsoft messages are extremely unclear.
So, even if the BHO is an issue for any given machine the problem is in the lazy nature of Microsoft (which presents cryptic messages that the average person doesn't understand) and in order to rid themselves of the popup message they OK it.
This means that the foundation (the basic design) is wrong and it is wrong at the heart of the OS not just in IE's use of BHOs. Firefox for instance has a significantly different design for add-ons which help greatly in ensuring that infection doesn't occur as a result of them.
The Windows OS is a swiss cheese of security and one of those holes is IE and one smaller hole is the add-on (BHO). To say that the BHO is the primary cause of infection is to give an erection to those writing this shit cause they know Microsoft is on the wrong fucking track, and Microsoft is in denial.