This isn't the 90s where the programmers aren't used to thinking in strings, they were thinking in ascii bytes. It was never a hard thing, it was just something most American coders didn't have any experience with yet.
I dunno, It really doesn't seem fair to let people edit the historical record, especially when people start replying to them. Waaaay too easy to put words in someone's mouth...
I agree with both sides.
On other sites, like ArsTechnica, there is a culture of adding an "edit: typo" type subscript. But that wouldn't work here, because it is only by custom and this place is a bit more gladiatorial.
So my proposal for a technical solution would be to allow the addition of a post-script for 10 minutes or something. Like a few minutes ago I made an embarrassing their/there error, and like usual I saw the typo right after pressing submit, not during the preview (which I did use). I'd be able to add "s/their/there/" and feel better about it. And it would only go into the postscript.
Knowing who modded a comment makes moderation worthless. If they do that, I'm out of here. You'll never get honest moderation when the moderator has to fear retaliation.
Exactly. I already get clusters of down-mods sometimes, from days past, after making a controversial post, like saying something positive about systemd.
A lot of times the reason I disagree with it is because instead of talking about the subject, a person just drags in their person favorite topics and says something nasty. That is just a type of trolling in my opinion. And if they say something nasty that is on-topic, they'll get "flamebait" because what else are you trying to do than start a flame war if you're being nasty?
If I simply disagree with their opinion or conclusion, but they state it as just their own opinion or analysis, I would never downmod that. And I see quite frequently that there are positive, constructive, different/opposing opinions all getting high ratings.
That is because you're posting anonymously on a free site, and start with a low score. Anonymous comments, like yours, are generally lower quality than the comments from logged-in users. If you were a user with good "karma," then you might be starting at 2 and there would be no problem.
A significant percentage of my comments that finish at +5 or +4 were first given a -1. It is not a problem. And these days there are few enough comments, you don't need strict filtering like you did 15 years ago when it was a crowded room.
You claim I should live in fear, but I laugh in your face.
Check out meta-moderation.
And no, one instance of down-modding can't hurt; the next up-mod destroys it. That is why there is a low positive limit, instead of a total score, and why there is an even-lower negative limit.
Early in the history of slashdot there was considerable discussion about moderation, and different things were tried. Meta-moderation was invented. Technical solutions were found.
We don't live in fear of moderation. Fear not the opinions of others; there are a lot of mediocre others in the world.
I'm a centrist who believes that there should be a lot of compromise, and your party currently hates compromise, so from my perspective if you're giving a "conservative viewpoint" that is the same as the Republican talking points, I'm going to down-mod for 2 reasons; it isn't actually your perspective, just party-flag-waving regurgitation, and it is probably not a reasoned viewpoint that allows other views to exist.
I down-mod people on the left for the same reason, usually from the Green Party. Democrats at least support compromise and their views don't exclude Republican views; they are openly and explicitly willing to compromise.
So I can see that depending on the actual common views in each party over time, there would be a different balance of down-mods for not being constructive, and just asserting conclusions, etc.
A lot of slashdot users are actually quite conservative, but they're not Republican Party flag-wavers and they don't regurgitate talking points. They're conservatives who still believe in compromise, in civic duty, in honesty.
What percent of modern "conservatives" will even agree that Democrats love America and love the Constitution? 1%? 2%? "They're tryin' to take er guns!" "Who?" "Them their liberaaals!" "But they say they support the 2nd Amendment too, and you can keep your guns." "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS YOU HIPPIE!" That is basically how the conversation goes.
THIS is the type user-driven community I want to be a part of!
<3
This isn't a user-driven community. It is a user community of back-seat drivers.
All the attempts to build a user-driven community out of subsets of this userbase have driven right off the road.
Just look at how hard our fellow users try to flame systemd into the ground, using ignorant low-brow mythology that pretends (by implication) that most sysadmins are idiots. And they're not even coming from a different technical angle, because they don't realize how awful SysV is for the programmers, or that you can still use SysV style scripts if you want. It is like, people who like to play a lot of computer games on windows think they know all about *nix because they use a linux box for their home router.
But they should bring back Slashdot Radio, but instead of a programming focus it could have a maker/diy focus.
If they're using the old slashcode, it would be trivial. Assuming they don't already have programming staff, it would take a few hours to get familiar with the code and find the different things to change, but it would all be small changes. Slashcode is Perl, it is good at string munging.;)
That really doesn't sound like a lot for those types of positions in big companies.... but those positions typically have LOTS AND LOTS of perks that often easily outstrip the salary.
Exactly. Where it says, "not [including] possible perks such as stock options" that translates the whole thing to: "One of the smaller lines on their paycheck is only $150k." That isn't news, even if you really care about the subject.
The older system was "peer review" (different than the current review by a class of Peers) where people like Newton would publish their work as "open letters" that would then be re-printed by journals. The older system that that replaced was where the publishers controlled what got published, and it sucked. That's why Newton and the others were doing it differently.
Now the situation is the same as in Newton's day, but the publishers controlling everything is being called "Peer review" and making it available so your peers can judge it for themselves is called "open."
Regarding the manual or instructions specifically, what must be the makeup of your hubris that you believe the manufacturer would be unlikely to know something you do not?
Nope, I didn't say anything about that. So I can't help you there.
You've had 20+ years of searching to find anything on her, and you still can only wave your hands and say the word "prison" without even an accusation. Derpyderpderp!
If you don't have a track, vehicle, or approval to build a route, WTF else are you going to be able to work on right now?!
The first ones would be only for the rich, and you can't have real windows for technical reasons relating to the nature of the whole idea. So you have to overcome that if you want any early adopters. Getting the right features into the public mindset might be the only useful thing for many of them to be doing right now, and until other more physical steps get completed.
You're just being intentionally obtuse and pretending you don't understand, then saying "tracking." Yeah, when the waitress asks if you want the "usual," that is also "tracking" according to your theory. Like I said above, the "tracking" that is a privacy concern is the tracking where people other than the owner of a website knows that you went to that website. If you want to disclose your identity to receive features that involve data storage of personal preferences, that is a whole different issue than "tracking."
Heck, if you really want to make sure your kid doesn't have it easy and has to learn the hard way and become a Heinleinian Uberman, just leave him out the woods to grow up with animals. If he lives, he'll be the smartest, best educated, most self-driven man in the world. If you deny him that opportunity, there is no way for him to overcome that handicap later.
Don't handicap your kids by making their lives easy. If you want them to learn to overcome, at least cut off their feet or something so they don't have it so easy.
the teachers unions do not care about educating the children - they care only about making life easier for their membership.
Thank goodness for that, it is their job! I support union rights, but I don't like it when unions get involved in things other than collective bargaining and enforcing said bargain. If the teacher unions acting like police unions, the children would be suffering for it.
I read most of Heinlein's books. They were fiction. They said lots of different things. He didn't say that particular thing in a way that brings insight, he only said it in a way that tells you that character's character.
You probably learned about "the state of public education" from AM radio or cable news, because the state of private education is identical. The range of offerings in public and private school teaching systems is exactly the same. If you are in a wealthy neighborhood, the public school will not be distinguishable from a private school with the same income level parents. And a private school that is run by donations and has mostly poor students, will not be different from their neighboring public school. Duh. My parents were poor and found the poor neighborhood that was on the edge of rich school's side of the line, so I got a high quality public school education. The results are not different from the private schools, except that some of the private schools also teach religion.
Lots of educational techniques work wonderfully when you try them out on students who are self-motivated and enjoy learning, but fail miserably when applied to someone who doesn't care about their grades, their learning, or anything else that a school could reward and/or punish them with.
Success might be getting misdefined in those cases. Not everybody can be a doctor or lawyer, sorry. And most of them never asked to try. If success is to somehow "teach" uninterested students, as if education was a glass that can be filled by the teacher, then failure is the forever result.
Instead of "no child left behind," maybe we should try, "no child prevented from advancing." And then the ones in the back, make sure they have access, are getting minimal exposure to possibilities, and are having fun.
I know in my case I was getting punished for writing computer code (on paper) instead of repeating the math problems that I already knew how to solve. I didn't care about their lesson plan, their grades, or anything they could reward/punish me with, either. Now, a lot of people sympathize with that story, but they don't sympathize with my classmate who was getting in trouble for drawing cartoons all day. Animators make good money, he was practicing something more important to his life than whatever the class was. He makes more than most of the "professionals" he went to school with, mostly because he was too stubborn to do what the teachers told him. And if he was just a dullard... would forcing math on him and brightened him up any? Reading slashdot comments should dissuade anybody from that idea, almost all these idiots are experienced in maths.
Slashdot Mirror
This isn't the 90s where the programmers aren't used to thinking in strings, they were thinking in ascii bytes. It was never a hard thing, it was just something most American coders didn't have any experience with yet.
UTF8 is definitely low-hanging fruit.
I dunno, It really doesn't seem fair to let people edit the historical record, especially when people start replying to them. Waaaay too easy to put words in someone's mouth...
I agree with both sides.
On other sites, like ArsTechnica, there is a culture of adding an "edit: typo" type subscript. But that wouldn't work here, because it is only by custom and this place is a bit more gladiatorial.
So my proposal for a technical solution would be to allow the addition of a post-script for 10 minutes or something. Like a few minutes ago I made an embarrassing their/there error, and like usual I saw the typo right after pressing submit, not during the preview (which I did use). I'd be able to add "s/their/there/" and feel better about it. And it would only go into the postscript.
Knowing who modded a comment makes moderation worthless. If they do that, I'm out of here. You'll never get honest moderation when the moderator has to fear retaliation.
Exactly. I already get clusters of down-mods sometimes, from days past, after making a controversial post, like saying something positive about systemd.
A lot of times the reason I disagree with it is because instead of talking about the subject, a person just drags in their person favorite topics and says something nasty. That is just a type of trolling in my opinion. And if they say something nasty that is on-topic, they'll get "flamebait" because what else are you trying to do than start a flame war if you're being nasty?
If I simply disagree with their opinion or conclusion, but they state it as just their own opinion or analysis, I would never downmod that. And I see quite frequently that there are positive, constructive, different/opposing opinions all getting high ratings.
That is because you're posting anonymously on a free site, and start with a low score. Anonymous comments, like yours, are generally lower quality than the comments from logged-in users. If you were a user with good "karma," then you might be starting at 2 and there would be no problem.
A significant percentage of my comments that finish at +5 or +4 were first given a -1. It is not a problem. And these days there are few enough comments, you don't need strict filtering like you did 15 years ago when it was a crowded room.
You claim I should live in fear, but I laugh in your face.
Check out meta-moderation.
And no, one instance of down-modding can't hurt; the next up-mod destroys it. That is why there is a low positive limit, instead of a total score, and why there is an even-lower negative limit.
Early in the history of slashdot there was considerable discussion about moderation, and different things were tried. Meta-moderation was invented. Technical solutions were found.
We don't live in fear of moderation. Fear not the opinions of others; there are a lot of mediocre others in the world.
I'm a centrist who believes that there should be a lot of compromise, and your party currently hates compromise, so from my perspective if you're giving a "conservative viewpoint" that is the same as the Republican talking points, I'm going to down-mod for 2 reasons; it isn't actually your perspective, just party-flag-waving regurgitation, and it is probably not a reasoned viewpoint that allows other views to exist.
I down-mod people on the left for the same reason, usually from the Green Party. Democrats at least support compromise and their views don't exclude Republican views; they are openly and explicitly willing to compromise.
So I can see that depending on the actual common views in each party over time, there would be a different balance of down-mods for not being constructive, and just asserting conclusions, etc.
A lot of slashdot users are actually quite conservative, but they're not Republican Party flag-wavers and they don't regurgitate talking points. They're conservatives who still believe in compromise, in civic duty, in honesty.
What percent of modern "conservatives" will even agree that Democrats love America and love the Constitution? 1%? 2%? "They're tryin' to take er guns!" "Who?" "Them their liberaaals!" "But they say they support the 2nd Amendment too, and you can keep your guns." "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS YOU HIPPIE!" That is basically how the conversation goes.
THIS is the type user-driven community I want to be a part of!
<3
This isn't a user-driven community. It is a user community of back-seat drivers.
All the attempts to build a user-driven community out of subsets of this userbase have driven right off the road.
Just look at how hard our fellow users try to flame systemd into the ground, using ignorant low-brow mythology that pretends (by implication) that most sysadmins are idiots. And they're not even coming from a different technical angle, because they don't realize how awful SysV is for the programmers, or that you can still use SysV style scripts if you want. It is like, people who like to play a lot of computer games on windows think they know all about *nix because they use a linux box for their home router.
But they should bring back Slashdot Radio, but instead of a programming focus it could have a maker/diy focus.
If they're using the old slashcode, it would be trivial. Assuming they don't already have programming staff, it would take a few hours to get familiar with the code and find the different things to change, but it would all be small changes. Slashcode is Perl, it is good at string munging. ;)
That really doesn't sound like a lot for those types of positions in big companies.... but those positions typically have LOTS AND LOTS of perks that often easily outstrip the salary.
Exactly. Where it says, "not [including] possible perks such as stock options" that translates the whole thing to: "One of the smaller lines on their paycheck is only $150k." That isn't news, even if you really care about the subject.
The older system was "peer review" (different than the current review by a class of Peers) where people like Newton would publish their work as "open letters" that would then be re-printed by journals. The older system that that replaced was where the publishers controlled what got published, and it sucked. That's why Newton and the others were doing it differently.
Now the situation is the same as in Newton's day, but the publishers controlling everything is being called "Peer review" and making it available so your peers can judge it for themselves is called "open."
Physics and chemistry were unified by quantum electrodynamics.
You can't give out that nobel, they gave it to Feynman and 2 other guys.
"a few tens of dollars" sounds about like the price difference of 2" of TV, so I'm not sure the problem there.
If they had losses they could just bring individual suits and this would be good for the people with the most losses. ;)0
It is no surprise, it isn't really news. The SCOTUS has been very clear; arbitration clauses are enforceable, don't sign them unless you mean it.
Regarding the manual or instructions specifically, what must be the makeup of your hubris that you believe the manufacturer would be unlikely to know something you do not?
Nope, I didn't say anything about that. So I can't help you there.
Of course they have dreams, that is why they are still there.
You've had 20+ years of searching to find anything on her, and you still can only wave your hands and say the word "prison" without even an accusation. Derpyderpderp!
If you don't have a track, vehicle, or approval to build a route, WTF else are you going to be able to work on right now?!
The first ones would be only for the rich, and you can't have real windows for technical reasons relating to the nature of the whole idea. So you have to overcome that if you want any early adopters. Getting the right features into the public mindset might be the only useful thing for many of them to be doing right now, and until other more physical steps get completed.
Interstitials in the main stream is probably the endgame of this.
That's a middle-game, because they lose market share and the endgame happens somewhere else for those users. ;)
My assessment of the "endgame" presumes that the major players will continue to be the ones that value market share the most.
No need to...
You missed my point, that's why you didn't see it. :(
It is safer to assume I understood all the technical details, and still made my comment. ;)
and most small businesses are indeed LLCs. Sorry, I'm sure you were attempting to add something, but can you explain what it was?
You're just being intentionally obtuse and pretending you don't understand, then saying "tracking." Yeah, when the waitress asks if you want the "usual," that is also "tracking" according to your theory. Like I said above, the "tracking" that is a privacy concern is the tracking where people other than the owner of a website knows that you went to that website. If you want to disclose your identity to receive features that involve data storage of personal preferences, that is a whole different issue than "tracking."
Heck, if you really want to make sure your kid doesn't have it easy and has to learn the hard way and become a Heinleinian Uberman, just leave him out the woods to grow up with animals. If he lives, he'll be the smartest, best educated, most self-driven man in the world. If you deny him that opportunity, there is no way for him to overcome that handicap later.
Don't handicap your kids by making their lives easy. If you want them to learn to overcome, at least cut off their feet or something so they don't have it so easy.
the teachers
unions do not care about educating the children - they care only about making life easier for their membership.
Thank goodness for that, it is their job! I support union rights, but I don't like it when unions get involved in things other than collective bargaining and enforcing said bargain. If the teacher unions acting like police unions, the children would be suffering for it.
I read most of Heinlein's books. They were fiction. They said lots of different things. He didn't say that particular thing in a way that brings insight, he only said it in a way that tells you that character's character.
You probably learned about "the state of public education" from AM radio or cable news, because the state of private education is identical. The range of offerings in public and private school teaching systems is exactly the same. If you are in a wealthy neighborhood, the public school will not be distinguishable from a private school with the same income level parents. And a private school that is run by donations and has mostly poor students, will not be different from their neighboring public school. Duh. My parents were poor and found the poor neighborhood that was on the edge of rich school's side of the line, so I got a high quality public school education. The results are not different from the private schools, except that some of the private schools also teach religion.
Lots of educational techniques work wonderfully when you try them out on students who are self-motivated and enjoy learning, but fail miserably when applied to someone who doesn't care about their grades, their learning, or anything else that a school could reward and/or punish them with.
Success might be getting misdefined in those cases. Not everybody can be a doctor or lawyer, sorry. And most of them never asked to try. If success is to somehow "teach" uninterested students, as if education was a glass that can be filled by the teacher, then failure is the forever result.
Instead of "no child left behind," maybe we should try, "no child prevented from advancing." And then the ones in the back, make sure they have access, are getting minimal exposure to possibilities, and are having fun.
I know in my case I was getting punished for writing computer code (on paper) instead of repeating the math problems that I already knew how to solve. I didn't care about their lesson plan, their grades, or anything they could reward/punish me with, either. Now, a lot of people sympathize with that story, but they don't sympathize with my classmate who was getting in trouble for drawing cartoons all day. Animators make good money, he was practicing something more important to his life than whatever the class was. He makes more than most of the "professionals" he went to school with, mostly because he was too stubborn to do what the teachers told him. And if he was just a dullard... would forcing math on him and brightened him up any? Reading slashdot comments should dissuade anybody from that idea, almost all these idiots are experienced in maths.