Now that you mention it, I think I did have a DEC Alpha box that had XP on it.:/ I think it might have been a rebadged workstation from not long after they sold. Wow... That was ages ago. I'm not even positive. I just sort of dimly recall it. I kind of drank a lot back then. By a lot, I mean functioning alcoholic area of drinking - as in beer for breakfast type drinking. Strangely enough, I stayed functioning until after I retired. It's like my brain knew and said, "Well, I don't have to work any more." I've since quit. I'm just too good at drinking and it's time to let a new professional hold the throne.
You gave a few examples and then said it was secure. I'm not sure that one follows the other.;-) I'll emphatically state that no OS is secure and that security is, at best, a practice and not an application. Given history and the current landscape, I don't think that you've the necessary vocabulary (not intended as a slight) or expertise to convince me otherwise. There's been a few 'keychain' incidents with Mac as of late, as I recall. This is not saying that Mac's aren't pretty damned secure - they are. They're just not secure. Nothing is.
Anyhow, I was on the cusp of new technology and processes. In the late 1980s I began my thesis (I'm a Ph.D in Applied Mathematics) on vehicular traffic modeling. I entered the private sector with a single contract in 1991 while still preparing my defense. Before that contract was finished, I had two more. Before those were done, well, I was never without work and expanded into pedestrian traffic modeling as well (think stores, malls, auditoriums, a few outdoor events, and even museums). It was lucrative but then I got a crazy offer to sell. That was completed just prior to the crash of '07. I don't share the numbers in public but, well, I'm retired and have more money now (just from investments and natural growth) than I had when I sold and that's not from being stingy. You can email me if you want more details. The email above this post is valid.
In fact, if you have some advice on WHAT to look for with Apple, then feel free to email me. I did look at the refurb offers. Unfortunately, I needed to ensure a homogeneous environment and, as I recall, that would have taken an unknown amount of time - the discount wasn't as nice as it was if I'd just bought new. I like to refresh on a two year cycle and I make sure that the IT staff has a goodly sum in his slush fund every semester to cover breakage and anything else that's needed. I've made a couple of contacts within the Apple marketing department (specifically, they have a group that deals with education) and, even there, my purchase numbers don't net a huge discount but it does put them in the "more affordable" category - new is an option and I could be convinced to do a late-semester refresh. They have been quite pleased with the iPads.
I get Christmas cards, invited to plays, I go down and 'teach' a few classes here and there, the kids come to my house once a year - we pick apples and hang out in the garden and take a walk up the mountain and look at the owl and rabbit scat. I get "I love you" Valentine's Day cards. I get cookies. I get letters of thanks in big boxes, delivered by tired teachers, and lately they've discovered they can email me. I'm not exactly sure what they're saying but I save them all into their own folder. (No, it's not this email. I actually have a gratuitous @schooldistrict.school.edu account. I check it daily. The singing is awful, the music is awful, and the acting leaves something to be desired. I go anyhow, it's my job. It is my end of the social contract.
See, I didn't get to where I am on my own. I owe society and have the means to repay it. While my kids have trusts, for instance, they can live just fine without working a day in their life. What they can't do is live overly comfortable on that. Sure, I could make it so that they'd never work at all. That's failing to uphold my end of the contract. I am not allowed to intentionally raise harmful and abusive people. That's part of the social contract. By the way - the daughter never touches her trust - she just recently finished med school. My son? He's cheating. He's in Peru with a sexy native and smoking a lot of weed. As he doesn't drink, I'm going to go into business with him and buy him a bar/hotel. He can pay off the loan and have a solid business. He doesn't appear interested in finishing his biology degree.
Anyhow, if Apple has something coming out, say, near Christmas time AND that will give me time (it only took about three weeks) then I might be interested. They'll give me a deep enough discoun
I mentioned this yesterday. Ain't nobody got time for introspection and self-improvement. It's Friday, time for the SJW Showdown. The MRA group is in one corner, trying hard to not look at the other side and the SJWs are prattling on about being enlightened, tolerant, and CORRECT while actively showing everyone that they're the exact opposite of what they claim to be.
Who's going to win this week? The show continues.
"Welcome back my friend, to the show that never ends. We're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside."
You made me think. I'm not impressed. Don't do that again. However, it seems that creating outrage and then following up with, "Okay, we're going to do it anyhow." Would generate more publicity and the resultant benefits. Hmm...
Meh... I just like popcorn. Unbuttered, unsalted. Popcorn.
When I was younger, I mean very young, my ex-wife worked in a factory while I was still enlisted. She made shoes, she glued them. Her name was Sue. So, we had had our first child at this point and I wrote a tongue twister for her.
"Did you glue Sue Sue's shoes with Sue Sue's shoe glue? No! I glued Sue Sue's shoes with Sue Sue's shoe glue. Sue Sue's shoes were glued with Sue Sue's shoe glue."
I had a theatrical actress student friend at the time who also shared, "I'm not a fig plucker but I'll pluck figs 'til the fig plucker comes."
She adopted my tongue twister and used it as a warm up. She now gives instruction at a New England university in theater. I've been told that it is still used as a warm up exercise. I really wish I'd a greater claim to fame in the acting world but, alas, that might just be it.
As someone who travels to South America (and, of course, through Mexico) that stereotype doesn't really apply so much in Mexico unless you're at the border cities and/or doing something illegal. You do see it, a bit more, if you're not a native (again, depending on a lot of other things) but it's more pronounced south of Mexico, get down into Columbia, Peru, Bolivia, or Argentina and it's pretty rampant.
There are a lot of checkpoints (I assume they're not official, but they have guns), even outside of smaller towns, where you're must show your "documentacion, por favor." It's easy, slip a $20 in with your paperwork, they'll leave for a quick minute, and return and then you just drive away. 'Snot hard, just count it in with your gas money. It's not nearly as pronounced in Mexico any more. It was more prolific but not so much today, except maybe in border areas and, even then, they tend to just leave tourist plated vehicles alone at the borders. Just wave and drive, you'll be all set. The rules are different if you're doing something illegal.
I read that as, "I've not listened and I'm genuinely not interested in learning the facts and adjusting my beliefs accordingly. I'll just rely on emotion and what I think instead of reasoning and data. Don't bother to reply, I won't listen." Am I mistaken?
It just means we need to chalk a line in space. When we cross it, we'll know we're back around to the start. It's like hugging a fat woman. Chalk a line and keep going until you get back around to the other side, that way you know you're complete.
No, no, I don't have anything meaningful to contribute.
I admit, I did not notice the OS X part and went straight for the "Mac." Mac's not bad about malware, I bought 62 iPads recently just for that reason. (They're not for me, they're for a fairly poor local elementary school that I've sort of adopted since I sold my business. I keep their whole IT department up to date and help out the solitary IT staff that they have.)
D'oh! However, Mac (even OS X) does get a share of exploits (and resultant malware) these days. That's a good thing. It means the platform is being inspected more. It means it's growing, perhaps you can say maturing. I find it fine, I just haven't taken the time to acclimate to it. I'm not really an OS zealot or anything. If we want to be equally pedantic, I don't know of any Windows specific viruses that have struck lately. By Windows, well, I mean just the kernel - much like Linux is just the kernel.;-) That and hardly any viruses are being released any more. Not by strict definition. Mostly we see trojans and other malware.
As an aside, Apple's very cool about giving discounts on hardware. The iPads were a trivial expense. If they could get a decent laptop in the right price range then I'd buy it for them. As it was, I ended up getting them all Lenovo laptops a couple of years ago. They got to keep them at the end of last year and they got the iPods this year when they returned to school. I'll examine the landscape in a year and a half. I currently replace every two years and allow the kids to keep the older equipment. I can write it off but I don't bother, I've generally already reduced my tax burden as far as possible with donations to mainstream groups like Red Cross, Heifer International, and Habitat for Humanities.
Ah well, I completely missed the OS X bit.;-) (I'm not one to double down on my own mistakes. Well, unless I'm fucking with someone for my own amusement.) Mac's are hardly secure and I think we know that - even you know that. Nothing is secure but Mac's do a pretty good job. iOS seems to be pretty tight too. I'm a Linux user so I don't really worry about anything as I tend to stay pretty much within the safe zone most of the time or do the rest in a burnable VM. Hell, half the time I don't have an OS installed - not in use. I just use a Live USB stick. I've generally got 16 to 32 GB of RAM. I can load several OSes into RAM if I really wanted.
Free as in beer. Free as in source is available. Not free in that you can take their proprietary bits and include them in your distributed changes. So, not entirely free but close enough for anyone but a zealot.
You have some of the most fanciful... umm... beliefs... Patton was pasted by a drunk driver, not the OSS. Hell, IIRC, Patton even set it up so that the driver wasn't prosecuted. How one goes from that to him being assassinated by the OSS is beyond me but I seem to recall that you think almost everything is some giant conspiracy. "Oh no! Someone died! It must be a conspiracy!"
*sighs*
Well, at least you're amusing. There's that. Deciding to take a look at what evidence there is to suggest your allegation is true, I went to the 'trusty' Google and entered in the query, "General Patton Killed by OSS." I then pounded the enter button until it felt good. I then scanned the initial results, Google is set to give me 100 links per page, and opened a few of them.
Yeah... One discredited Wilcox, self-acclaimed historian (a nominal value that you can assign to yourself with nary a shadow of accreditation) and a bunch of lunatics who decided to follow suit with absolutely no evidence to support the theory. Not one scholarly article. Not one iota of proof (hearsay is not proof). And, more, completely unlikely given the methods, number of people who'd need to be involved, etc... But, of course, that's part of the cover-up, right?
There was an interesting study done on those people who believed in conspiracy theories. The findings were released about six months ago, as I recall. It made Slashdot. Basically, they're inferior people who want to believe they're in the know and thus more enlightened and intelligent than other people and this is their outlet to fix their frail egos and low sense of self-worth. I dunno what to tell you but you might want to look into that. (By the way, Oswald killed JFK as a lone actor.)
There was also the XP 64 bit for Itanium at one point. I never did try it, I don't think I owned an Itanium CPU, ever. Not even in the shop or at any of the remote offices. I seem to recall that there were little to no applications ported for it but I also recall hearing that in-house apps were pretty good on it, so long as compiled specifically for it and that there were a number of caveats.
You... You... You RTFA? Do you know what day it is? It's FRIDAY! *spits* There's only one thing worse than someone who reads the article and that's someone who does it on Friday. You take your facts, reason, and insight and pound it in your ass! This is screech like a howler monkey (and throw poop) day. Your UID number is low enough, you know the rules... I hope, for your sake, you're drunk!
Pfft... Reading the article on a Friday... Why, I never... Hrmpf! What's this site coming to, anyhow? Are you aware that you could start a trend? Then where would we be? We'd have to have outrage over only real subjects. We'd have to be rational actors. Why, we'd actually have to have meaningful dialogues. I say no! I say this is where the line is drawn - on a Friday, no less.
This hill, and no further, this will be the one where I shed my last blood. This will be where I sacrifice myself for the cause! This, this and no further!
I once wrote out a definition that was fairly well received but I didn't save it. It'd be in my post history somewhere but I'm too lazy to look for it. I basically used a similar taxonomy as we use for classification of species.
So... Using your example, one of them, and from a layman's view...
UAV (vs. Manned) Remote Controlled (allowing inputs via remote) Semi-Autonomous (vs. complete autonomy) Limited to X Range (not sure where you qualify here - not a hobbyist) Multi-Rotor (vs. single) Helicopter (vs. plane or model rocket) RTB, FPV, etc (sub-species, so to speak)
There's room for further refinement. There are obviously different classes, orders, etc... One can abbreviate or whatnot, or just include the 'species-subspecies' if they want. The purpose is simply to give full information in universal format and to facilitate the coming regulation as it's easier to exempt certain classes than it is to exempt non-specific classes.
There's loads of room to improve it but that's the gist of it. If y'all had listened then you'd have a nice site to go to where this sort of thing can be proposed, acted on, and formalized as a standard. It might even collect voluntary duties and lobby on behalf of the members. It might even get vendor tie-in and support. I'm not a hobbyist so I'm disregarded, insulted, and generally (oddly) assumed to have some sort of ulterior motives. (Really, I just don't want you guys to get fucked over. Really... I have no financial motivations at all nor a care in the world except not wanting to see an otherwise group of nice people be ruined by a few bad actors and then be subjected to draconian legislation that makes you all scofflaws or outlaws.)
Never, ever, take advice from someone who doesn't know the difference between freedoms and rights. If you live most anywhere other than a prison, you have all the freedoms you want. Freedoms are taken by force. What you're wanting are rights, or liberties.
I am free to kill you. I do not have the right to do so. You're free to try hijack a plane and crash it into a building. You do not have the liberty to do so. You're free to build a nuclear bomb. You do not have the right do do so. You're free to do heroin. You do not have the liberty to do so.
Until we get past this, well, there's not a whole lot of use in going forward.
This is going to make the second time, where drones are concerned, that I get to say, "I told you so." The first was in the Kentucky drone shooting. This one will be where I've continually suggested that you organize or you'll get draconian legislation. The, "I can do it anyways, fuck you!" Is actually part of the problem. Yet I see that reply nearly every time I bring this up.
What you could have done is contact the vendors, setup a site, have all sorts of free training material, and get vendors to put your URL inside of every package, packaged part, etc... Make them want to join, encourage best use guidelines, and actively seek to educate. (Also, punch the bad actors in the nuts.) By now, had I been listened to, you might have a powerhouse with a huge following that would be actually representative of the hobbyists needs.
On top of that, you might have created a few jobs as I'm sure you'd get vendor tie-in and be able to place ads (not even tracking ads) on the site and manufactures would want to be known as blessed by this group of users. Something similar to the ARRL related radio/ham sites...
But no... It didn't happen. You want shitty regulation and lack of liberty? 'Cause this is how you get that. Should you need to? Probably not. You probably don't need to shower either but it's a good idea if you do, if you're wanting to be socially acceptable. It's probably too late but you could take the idea, improve on it, and run with it and it might help.
Alas, nobody listens to David. Good luck with that. It's going to suck. Personally, I hate to see anyone lose rights - even though I don't really give a shit about RC aircraft.
There are more religions than just those from Abraham. You may want to look to the East where such could be wedged in there with little problem. Such an axiom would fit nicely with some of the Hindu folks and with the Buddhists though the latter isn't likely to call it justice.
My friend says I should actually do some research into this. He's a curious sort... *nods* SWMBO is alert and whatnot, she gave an odd look when I described the conversation. I think that I'll skip the search engine and rely on my imagination. It's probably for the best. I really don't want to see what happens when soft squishy human bits meet an unforgiving spot welder.
I'm not sure why people think they're unskilled or that the job is easy. I also have to wonder if they know what they make... We paid a cleaning company to take care of our offices at night and had an on-site staff that they provided during the day. It was not all that inexpensive. It's not like they're just hiring people who don't know what they're doing. There's some experience required or needed to be learned. There's also some training to deal with certain chemicals or incidents.
It's as crazy a thought as thinking, "We don't need to reinvent the wheel." No, we've been reinventing it since it was mostly square, made of stone, and broke every twenty feet. It's a good thing we have been.
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I'm pretty sure that it's a wasted effort. :/ At least, it's highly overrated.
Now that you mention it, I think I did have a DEC Alpha box that had XP on it. :/ I think it might have been a rebadged workstation from not long after they sold. Wow... That was ages ago. I'm not even positive. I just sort of dimly recall it. I kind of drank a lot back then. By a lot, I mean functioning alcoholic area of drinking - as in beer for breakfast type drinking. Strangely enough, I stayed functioning until after I retired. It's like my brain knew and said, "Well, I don't have to work any more." I've since quit. I'm just too good at drinking and it's time to let a new professional hold the throne.
Slashdot seems to have changed the way Ordered Lists are done but, there you go. ;-)
You gave a few examples and then said it was secure. I'm not sure that one follows the other. ;-) I'll emphatically state that no OS is secure and that security is, at best, a practice and not an application. Given history and the current landscape, I don't think that you've the necessary vocabulary (not intended as a slight) or expertise to convince me otherwise. There's been a few 'keychain' incidents with Mac as of late, as I recall. This is not saying that Mac's aren't pretty damned secure - they are. They're just not secure. Nothing is.
Anyhow, I was on the cusp of new technology and processes. In the late 1980s I began my thesis (I'm a Ph.D in Applied Mathematics) on vehicular traffic modeling. I entered the private sector with a single contract in 1991 while still preparing my defense. Before that contract was finished, I had two more. Before those were done, well, I was never without work and expanded into pedestrian traffic modeling as well (think stores, malls, auditoriums, a few outdoor events, and even museums). It was lucrative but then I got a crazy offer to sell. That was completed just prior to the crash of '07. I don't share the numbers in public but, well, I'm retired and have more money now (just from investments and natural growth) than I had when I sold and that's not from being stingy. You can email me if you want more details. The email above this post is valid.
In fact, if you have some advice on WHAT to look for with Apple, then feel free to email me. I did look at the refurb offers. Unfortunately, I needed to ensure a homogeneous environment and, as I recall, that would have taken an unknown amount of time - the discount wasn't as nice as it was if I'd just bought new. I like to refresh on a two year cycle and I make sure that the IT staff has a goodly sum in his slush fund every semester to cover breakage and anything else that's needed. I've made a couple of contacts within the Apple marketing department (specifically, they have a group that deals with education) and, even there, my purchase numbers don't net a huge discount but it does put them in the "more affordable" category - new is an option and I could be convinced to do a late-semester refresh. They have been quite pleased with the iPads.
I get Christmas cards, invited to plays, I go down and 'teach' a few classes here and there, the kids come to my house once a year - we pick apples and hang out in the garden and take a walk up the mountain and look at the owl and rabbit scat. I get "I love you" Valentine's Day cards. I get cookies. I get letters of thanks in big boxes, delivered by tired teachers, and lately they've discovered they can email me. I'm not exactly sure what they're saying but I save them all into their own folder. (No, it's not this email. I actually have a gratuitous @schooldistrict.school.edu account. I check it daily. The singing is awful, the music is awful, and the acting leaves something to be desired. I go anyhow, it's my job. It is my end of the social contract.
See, I didn't get to where I am on my own. I owe society and have the means to repay it. While my kids have trusts, for instance, they can live just fine without working a day in their life. What they can't do is live overly comfortable on that. Sure, I could make it so that they'd never work at all. That's failing to uphold my end of the contract. I am not allowed to intentionally raise harmful and abusive people. That's part of the social contract. By the way - the daughter never touches her trust - she just recently finished med school. My son? He's cheating. He's in Peru with a sexy native and smoking a lot of weed. As he doesn't drink, I'm going to go into business with him and buy him a bar/hotel. He can pay off the loan and have a solid business. He doesn't appear interested in finishing his biology degree.
Anyhow, if Apple has something coming out, say, near Christmas time AND that will give me time (it only took about three weeks) then I might be interested. They'll give me a deep enough discoun
I mentioned this yesterday. Ain't nobody got time for introspection and self-improvement. It's Friday, time for the SJW Showdown. The MRA group is in one corner, trying hard to not look at the other side and the SJWs are prattling on about being enlightened, tolerant, and CORRECT while actively showing everyone that they're the exact opposite of what they claim to be.
Who's going to win this week? The show continues.
"Welcome back my friend, to the show that never ends. We're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside."
You made me think. I'm not impressed. Don't do that again. However, it seems that creating outrage and then following up with, "Okay, we're going to do it anyhow." Would generate more publicity and the resultant benefits. Hmm...
Meh... I just like popcorn. Unbuttered, unsalted. Popcorn.
It's a bit different up home. If I cross the border, everything is more expensive and they speak pidgin French.
When I was younger, I mean very young, my ex-wife worked in a factory while I was still enlisted. She made shoes, she glued them. Her name was Sue. So, we had had our first child at this point and I wrote a tongue twister for her.
"Did you glue Sue Sue's shoes with Sue Sue's shoe glue? No! I glued Sue Sue's shoes with Sue Sue's shoe glue. Sue Sue's shoes were glued with Sue Sue's shoe glue."
I had a theatrical actress student friend at the time who also shared, "I'm not a fig plucker but I'll pluck figs 'til the fig plucker comes."
She adopted my tongue twister and used it as a warm up. She now gives instruction at a New England university in theater. I've been told that it is still used as a warm up exercise. I really wish I'd a greater claim to fame in the acting world but, alas, that might just be it.
As someone who travels to South America (and, of course, through Mexico) that stereotype doesn't really apply so much in Mexico unless you're at the border cities and/or doing something illegal. You do see it, a bit more, if you're not a native (again, depending on a lot of other things) but it's more pronounced south of Mexico, get down into Columbia, Peru, Bolivia, or Argentina and it's pretty rampant.
There are a lot of checkpoints (I assume they're not official, but they have guns), even outside of smaller towns, where you're must show your "documentacion, por favor." It's easy, slip a $20 in with your paperwork, they'll leave for a quick minute, and return and then you just drive away. 'Snot hard, just count it in with your gas money. It's not nearly as pronounced in Mexico any more. It was more prolific but not so much today, except maybe in border areas and, even then, they tend to just leave tourist plated vehicles alone at the borders. Just wave and drive, you'll be all set. The rules are different if you're doing something illegal.
I read that as, "I've not listened and I'm genuinely not interested in learning the facts and adjusting my beliefs accordingly. I'll just rely on emotion and what I think instead of reasoning and data. Don't bother to reply, I won't listen." Am I mistaken?
It just means we need to chalk a line in space. When we cross it, we'll know we're back around to the start. It's like hugging a fat woman. Chalk a line and keep going until you get back around to the other side, that way you know you're complete.
No, no, I don't have anything meaningful to contribute.
Those are, indeed, words.
I admit, I did not notice the OS X part and went straight for the "Mac." Mac's not bad about malware, I bought 62 iPads recently just for that reason. (They're not for me, they're for a fairly poor local elementary school that I've sort of adopted since I sold my business. I keep their whole IT department up to date and help out the solitary IT staff that they have.)
D'oh! However, Mac (even OS X) does get a share of exploits (and resultant malware) these days. That's a good thing. It means the platform is being inspected more. It means it's growing, perhaps you can say maturing. I find it fine, I just haven't taken the time to acclimate to it. I'm not really an OS zealot or anything. If we want to be equally pedantic, I don't know of any Windows specific viruses that have struck lately. By Windows, well, I mean just the kernel - much like Linux is just the kernel. ;-) That and hardly any viruses are being released any more. Not by strict definition. Mostly we see trojans and other malware.
As an aside, Apple's very cool about giving discounts on hardware. The iPads were a trivial expense. If they could get a decent laptop in the right price range then I'd buy it for them. As it was, I ended up getting them all Lenovo laptops a couple of years ago. They got to keep them at the end of last year and they got the iPods this year when they returned to school. I'll examine the landscape in a year and a half. I currently replace every two years and allow the kids to keep the older equipment. I can write it off but I don't bother, I've generally already reduced my tax burden as far as possible with donations to mainstream groups like Red Cross, Heifer International, and Habitat for Humanities.
Ah well, I completely missed the OS X bit. ;-) (I'm not one to double down on my own mistakes. Well, unless I'm fucking with someone for my own amusement.) Mac's are hardly secure and I think we know that - even you know that. Nothing is secure but Mac's do a pretty good job. iOS seems to be pretty tight too. I'm a Linux user so I don't really worry about anything as I tend to stay pretty much within the safe zone most of the time or do the rest in a burnable VM. Hell, half the time I don't have an OS installed - not in use. I just use a Live USB stick. I've generally got 16 to 32 GB of RAM. I can load several OSes into RAM if I really wanted.
Free as in beer. Free as in source is available. Not free in that you can take their proprietary bits and include them in your distributed changes. So, not entirely free but close enough for anyone but a zealot.
You have some of the most fanciful... umm... beliefs... Patton was pasted by a drunk driver, not the OSS. Hell, IIRC, Patton even set it up so that the driver wasn't prosecuted. How one goes from that to him being assassinated by the OSS is beyond me but I seem to recall that you think almost everything is some giant conspiracy. "Oh no! Someone died! It must be a conspiracy!"
*sighs*
Well, at least you're amusing. There's that. Deciding to take a look at what evidence there is to suggest your allegation is true, I went to the 'trusty' Google and entered in the query, "General Patton Killed by OSS." I then pounded the enter button until it felt good. I then scanned the initial results, Google is set to give me 100 links per page, and opened a few of them.
Yeah... One discredited Wilcox, self-acclaimed historian (a nominal value that you can assign to yourself with nary a shadow of accreditation) and a bunch of lunatics who decided to follow suit with absolutely no evidence to support the theory. Not one scholarly article. Not one iota of proof (hearsay is not proof). And, more, completely unlikely given the methods, number of people who'd need to be involved, etc... But, of course, that's part of the cover-up, right?
There was an interesting study done on those people who believed in conspiracy theories. The findings were released about six months ago, as I recall. It made Slashdot. Basically, they're inferior people who want to believe they're in the know and thus more enlightened and intelligent than other people and this is their outlet to fix their frail egos and low sense of self-worth. I dunno what to tell you but you might want to look into that. (By the way, Oswald killed JFK as a lone actor.)
There was also the XP 64 bit for Itanium at one point. I never did try it, I don't think I owned an Itanium CPU, ever. Not even in the shop or at any of the remote offices. I seem to recall that there were little to no applications ported for it but I also recall hearing that in-house apps were pretty good on it, so long as compiled specifically for it and that there were a number of caveats.
You... You... You RTFA? Do you know what day it is? It's FRIDAY! *spits* There's only one thing worse than someone who reads the article and that's someone who does it on Friday. You take your facts, reason, and insight and pound it in your ass! This is screech like a howler monkey (and throw poop) day. Your UID number is low enough, you know the rules... I hope, for your sake, you're drunk!
Pfft... Reading the article on a Friday... Why, I never... Hrmpf! What's this site coming to, anyhow? Are you aware that you could start a trend? Then where would we be? We'd have to have outrage over only real subjects. We'd have to be rational actors. Why, we'd actually have to have meaningful dialogues. I say no! I say this is where the line is drawn - on a Friday, no less.
This hill, and no further, this will be the one where I shed my last blood. This will be where I sacrifice myself for the cause! This, this and no further!
Then they take your drone and, without any corroborating evidence, they simply destroy it and consider the matter settled.
I once wrote out a definition that was fairly well received but I didn't save it. It'd be in my post history somewhere but I'm too lazy to look for it. I basically used a similar taxonomy as we use for classification of species.
So... Using your example, one of them, and from a layman's view...
UAV (vs. Manned)
Remote Controlled (allowing inputs via remote)
Semi-Autonomous (vs. complete autonomy)
Limited to X Range (not sure where you qualify here - not a hobbyist)
Multi-Rotor (vs. single)
Helicopter (vs. plane or model rocket)
RTB, FPV, etc (sub-species, so to speak)
There's room for further refinement. There are obviously different classes, orders, etc... One can abbreviate or whatnot, or just include the 'species-subspecies' if they want. The purpose is simply to give full information in universal format and to facilitate the coming regulation as it's easier to exempt certain classes than it is to exempt non-specific classes.
There's loads of room to improve it but that's the gist of it. If y'all had listened then you'd have a nice site to go to where this sort of thing can be proposed, acted on, and formalized as a standard. It might even collect voluntary duties and lobby on behalf of the members. It might even get vendor tie-in and support. I'm not a hobbyist so I'm disregarded, insulted, and generally (oddly) assumed to have some sort of ulterior motives. (Really, I just don't want you guys to get fucked over. Really... I have no financial motivations at all nor a care in the world except not wanting to see an otherwise group of nice people be ruined by a few bad actors and then be subjected to draconian legislation that makes you all scofflaws or outlaws.)
Never, ever, take advice from someone who doesn't know the difference between freedoms and rights. If you live most anywhere other than a prison, you have all the freedoms you want. Freedoms are taken by force. What you're wanting are rights, or liberties.
I am free to kill you. I do not have the right to do so.
You're free to try hijack a plane and crash it into a building. You do not have the liberty to do so.
You're free to build a nuclear bomb. You do not have the right do do so.
You're free to do heroin. You do not have the liberty to do so.
Until we get past this, well, there's not a whole lot of use in going forward.
This is from a small government proponent.
This is going to make the second time, where drones are concerned, that I get to say, "I told you so." The first was in the Kentucky drone shooting. This one will be where I've continually suggested that you organize or you'll get draconian legislation. The, "I can do it anyways, fuck you!" Is actually part of the problem. Yet I see that reply nearly every time I bring this up.
What you could have done is contact the vendors, setup a site, have all sorts of free training material, and get vendors to put your URL inside of every package, packaged part, etc... Make them want to join, encourage best use guidelines, and actively seek to educate. (Also, punch the bad actors in the nuts.) By now, had I been listened to, you might have a powerhouse with a huge following that would be actually representative of the hobbyists needs.
On top of that, you might have created a few jobs as I'm sure you'd get vendor tie-in and be able to place ads (not even tracking ads) on the site and manufactures would want to be known as blessed by this group of users. Something similar to the ARRL related radio/ham sites...
But no... It didn't happen. You want shitty regulation and lack of liberty? 'Cause this is how you get that. Should you need to? Probably not. You probably don't need to shower either but it's a good idea if you do, if you're wanting to be socially acceptable. It's probably too late but you could take the idea, improve on it, and run with it and it might help.
Alas, nobody listens to David. Good luck with that. It's going to suck. Personally, I hate to see anyone lose rights - even though I don't really give a shit about RC aircraft.
There are more religions than just those from Abraham. You may want to look to the East where such could be wedged in there with little problem. Such an axiom would fit nicely with some of the Hindu folks and with the Buddhists though the latter isn't likely to call it justice.
Well put. If you do not mind sharing, what is your political affiliation?
My friend says I should actually do some research into this. He's a curious sort... *nods* SWMBO is alert and whatnot, she gave an odd look when I described the conversation. I think that I'll skip the search engine and rely on my imagination. It's probably for the best. I really don't want to see what happens when soft squishy human bits meet an unforgiving spot welder.
I'm not sure why people think they're unskilled or that the job is easy. I also have to wonder if they know what they make... We paid a cleaning company to take care of our offices at night and had an on-site staff that they provided during the day. It was not all that inexpensive. It's not like they're just hiring people who don't know what they're doing. There's some experience required or needed to be learned. There's also some training to deal with certain chemicals or incidents.
It's as crazy a thought as thinking, "We don't need to reinvent the wheel." No, we've been reinventing it since it was mostly square, made of stone, and broke every twenty feet. It's a good thing we have been.