Amen to that. You are spot on. That's why I just ignore Apple articles most of the time. You know they're just plant stories. Don't ever expect actual news or critical reporting on it. Or even any depth. Or even a slightly critical sentence on one annoying detail. The articles just repeat memes over and over and over. I was just reading some article the other day, it was really good. The guy actually spoke of a few features that he didn't like. *Actually* mentioned the features. And I was like "oh yea, now I remember why I never bought a Mac back in the day. Brain dead design functions and lack of features--just think of QT for Windows, ugh." Even though I am constantly unconsciously swayed by their supposed "perfect" hardware that is so sexy, that is repeated EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. by supposed tech sites.
I wonder what people think about their beloved Mac when they have all these problems that come to rise? When they get a spinning beachball or finder crashed once a week? Do they get pissed or rationalize it like usual cultists?
And as for the stock, I know what u mean. It's going up so high because institutional people are buying it because retail people are suckers and think "OMG OMG apple forever!" They flat-out know that the people are idiots and will continue to buy. But then when the musical chairs drop, they'll act like institutional investors: they'll have no problem walking away and taking their profit. But the retail investor will hold on "because it's Apple!". Problem is, when institutional sells, stocks drop, because just a few institutions holds more shares than all the retail investors in the country. So all those fanboys will be left with nothing. Can't say they don't deserve it though.
And it also doesn't help that institutional investors read the WSJ, and we all know that they're a shill with the resident "Walt Moss-Puppet."
Wow. You brought back some memories. Been a long time since I heard dBase and WordStar. I miss WordStar *sniff*.
But you completely illustrated my entire point. You were a user of Word 97 and like most people probably never learned anything more. Used none of the new features. None of the new tools or used the new workflow of the new Offices that made things easier, faster, etc. The revamped ribbon in 2010 for example made discovery awesome. I've been using Word/Excel professionally for years and even then I discovered new shit I never even knew existed, thanks to the ribbon. Or pivottable reports. So much freaking better. Could Word 97 even do PivotTables?
So you gave your hand right in the beginning. You even said all you do is databases.
Now, who in their right mind uses Access for DB's anyway? Everyone has known that Access is just "thrown in" and not to be used since us normal users got to use Linux and therefore PostgreSQL or MySQL. There is legacy stuff and enterprise installations, such as what you do at work. Dude, don't yell at me. Blame your work and or IT managers for *ever* choosing a choice that no one ever makes sanely and has known about for 15 years.
Let's take a step back here. I've been using Linux since 1995. Since Slackware v 2 IIRC. So you can fool most of the Apple sheep on here with ur BS, but not me. I was configuring apache servers and Sendmail servers since well, forever.
Apple has rudimentary BSD userland tools. It was just based on a BSD kernel and to show the press "UNIX!" they put some userland shit around it to make you feel all fuzzy. Compare that userland to FreeBSD today or a full distro of say CentOS or Debian. If you're doing anything heavy "UNIX-like" or using anything POSIX related, or want anything better than god awful fink and want up-to-date and featureful UNIX apps from a good package manager like apt or yum, you use a real distro.
There is no shame in dual-booting. Just don't pretend that OSX is the better choice.
Wait, why am I even arguing? I'm realizing the futility of typing this post out as I do it.
I've haven't experience the pain of loading Adobe apps in a while ha. But again, once it's loaded, why would you ever close it? And since you mention lightroom, surely your workstation has 24-32GB of RAM in it at least. You eat up all your RAM and your box bogs down because it's running constantly from swap?
Though that is good to know about closing many tabs in web browsers. I never had that problem, but I am always opening and closing my browser completely because of security (other sites read what you have open, or malicious software places overlays on your logins, etc) or just plan want to avoid memory leaks from browsers.
It's simple. Spend the $120 for the home and student perpetual and stop whining.
It amazes me that people are such boneheads. Have people actually used Office 2010 or are they still armchair quarterbacks spouting BS because they used Word 95 back in the day? Libre is awesome, no doubt, but let's not pretend it's even in the same league as office. Libre is comparable to Office 97, maybe.
Are you people seriously bitching about spending $120 on one of the most featureful, useful, advanced, and complex pieces of software today? And MS isn't Apple, they support their stuff. So you can spend $120 and skip each one, so in effect you are spending $120 every SIX years! People have no problem spending ridiculous amounts of money on other shit, but "OH NO! I don't want to spend $20 per year on the world's most useful software GRRR!"
How is it for data analysis and modeling? Specifically how does Libre compare to Excel with Pivot Tables, charts, etc.? The Libre documentation PDF is awesome and extensive (like 400 pages!) but mentions no word of Pivot Tables.
As a side note, I disagree with you on cut-and-paste. I bought a spectacular book, can't remmeber the name, it's like Office Inside and Out, by Ed Bott who has been around since forever. Read up on Excel. Excel 2010 is pretty amazing and you'll see how awesome it's clipboard system rocks.
And obligatory Yea yea "use SPSS like u should" for data modeling. But businesses don't give a crap. In the real world, we use Excel.
Oh my god. If I have to read one more BS Apple story like this on the internet, I'm going to go nuts.
Apple lovers must be stopped. They're driving ad revenue and hits to all these *retarded* articles. They keep writing them because people keep clicking on them. STOP IT people!
Maybe I should just follow "if u can't beat em, join em." I should just post "Using an iPhone gives you crabs" or "iPhone as valuable as cream of wheat" and watch the money roll in.
I just laugh. Remember that new screw hoax? They said "they just make it too easy."
They provide bug fixes. Not updates. 3GS and 4 won't get all the goodness of iOS 6. Let's not pretend they are still getting an update.
Also don't forget Google didn't need to provide a lot of updates (notice i didn't say bugfixes) because it had features that iOS lacked for ages, like the newly touted turn-by-turns directions, Google-earth ripoff, poor man's version of cloud functionality as opposed to badass Google's implementation, etc.
But in reality: people buy from whomever has the most/best marketing.
They buy Apple because they saw some hipster douche on TV ripping on a silly nerd, or because they have a hipster douche friend who shouts to get an iPhone every day at their friend, or because a girl thinks "it looks cute" and then proceeds to put a Burberry case and bedazzles on it.
OSX may have BSD tools and shell access. But let's not kid ourselves here. If you want anything more than a terminal and some utils, OSX ain't it. Full Linux distro or don't bother. Don't fool our fellow devs into spending $1200 to buy a MBA when they can slap Ubuntu onto a machine they already own or run it in a VM to get what they need and use Windows otherwise for games/multimedia/etc.
I don't disagree with you about Android on updates. Pisses me off to no end. But let's not act like Apple is a saint either. 3GS and 4 owners won't get the full upgrade of iOS6. Just bugfixes. And let's not forget that they're only supporting the 3GS because everyone still has one. There would be customer rage if they didn't. Otherwise, look at the iPad. No upgrade AT ALL, yet it was only released like 2 or less than 2 years ago, and is MORE powerful than the 3GS.
After you bought your magical iPad, they said F YOU, buy the iPad 3 or screw off.
Do we know Apple's method of reporting sales? The actual method? Do you have a link? I'm not flamebaiting here. I'm too lazy to check out their annual report. Apple is already guilty of spouting BS non-verifiable sales metrics right now with their pre-orders, but what is the deal in how they report actual sales? And do people actually want them? Meaning, if I have an IPad 2, I'm not going to buy a 3. Or do they still feel content with the original iPad.
Fanboys don't give these things, that's why we just hear the usual memes repeated. I wonder what the real numbers are.
Probably *exceeds* Apple's profit. Google/Android make money on ads. With 500,000 activations of Android phones per DAY, that's an awful lot of ad and market data potential.
"Company says that it's products are the best selling ever, according to non-validated internal company figures!"
Funny how stupid it sounds when you put it that way.
Oh god I know what you mean. WTF is Slashdot lately. Though these BS news stories with Apple have been going on since the beginning. It's scary though because these fanboy articles are starting to be written in respected places like Reuters and Forbes. I saw it recently and couldn't believe the the bias in the article. It was like "Apple made boring new iPhone with no new features but that's ok because it sells a lot." Like I just sold a steaming pile of turds and put it in a box, but because people ordered a lot it was a quality product. It was like Apple just wrote their articles for them.
Fanboys we expect this from, but now it's creeping into real journals. Scary. Though it's funny that sensationalist places for news like Yahoo News and CNet already say it like it is--it was boring, now new features, and Apple is running out of steam. Irony.
This is a genuine question, not flamebait. You've seen the difference first-hand. The question is, how much difference.
I know it's trendy to throw around boot times and loading applications. But these are PCs. The proper current day usage is to NOT boot, but sleep (suspend to RAM) and NOT keep loading applications from memory, but rather not even make it a consideration--run as many programs in RAM as possible. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. RAM is so cheap and so fast--MaximumPC made a Ramdisk and compared it to a SSD. SSD is ~500MB/sec, for example. RAM is 8000MB/sec. But anyway, so if you never close MS Word and you rarely reboot but instantly awake from sleep (not hibernate--useless IMHO anyway because it takes as long as booting*--might as well do a full reboot and get rid of mem leaks).
So the question is, by *properly* using our PCs, do you notice a real difference? And as for IOPS, which web browsing from history is IOPS heavy, I remember that the new MBA and the new Asus ZenBook were just as fast as ones with HDDs (my personal experience by using friends' machines). And applications simply do not take long to load--the only terrible offender is just shitty-coding--LibreOffice. Short of transferring a large media file, I don't see the difference at all. And I notice these little things.
And let me just say though that I don't disagree. Ever since the dawn of PCs, HD's were the slowest link (except floppies and CDROMS). A SSD is still the most significant upgrade that can be made.
* As a side note, booting doesn't take long on a modern day FRESH install of Win7 on a HDD. This is slashdot, we should all be using freshly-wiped and installed OS's and not vendor laden cruft-balls.
Why are you defending a company which wants to rip off its customers? It's the same logic as fanboys who brag that "but Apple doesn't care about charging low prices and is making a ton of money!" Yea, brag that you not only you're dumb enough to get paid more and got ripped off, but also saying "Thank you sir, may i have another?
Believe it or not, there are some businesses who make money but who also deliver what the customer wants.
The problem is there are no instances where it does anything more than bullshit. So no. They most likely won't buy another. More on this later.
Tom, with your UID, c'mon I expected more.
You must come from the old-school like me. Are you serious when you say you can type out real emails, like the ones for work, from an iPad keyboard? It doesn't even have haptic response. I can't even imagine doing it with haptic, but I could buy your argument. But a normal iPad on-screen keyboard? No. And you can't use the argument of using a BT Keyboard. Because then you have... tada--a laptop!
And if you're using it on the road, then why not just use the cellphone? You admit it's for in a pinch. So you're not doing anything real with it. And the apps are the same. And short of browsing the web, apps don't display more content. They display a longer list of news in say a newsreader, but that's it. So in your situation, again, the tablet is irrelevant. The smartphone satisfies it. So again, no need for a iPad/Tablet. Hence no need to buy another.
I'm curious as to the specific examples you actually do more than watch movies or play Pandora on it. Office work? No. DataViz Office can't get any Word or Excel formatting correct, is missing a ton of features, you have to use their proprietary storage to simply get files onto your iPad. Hell, it can't even do headers or footers! And like u said, u can't code or do any sort of web dev on it. Say you are in sales--Salesforce mobile doesn't even work past a search of clients. You can't even browse your full list of contacts, leads, or opportunities. It just doesn't even have the option beyond recent. So good luck with that.
So you're spending $500 on something just to read e-mail?
I'm serious about this--what do u do on the road that is anything more than bullshit?
Wow, guess I angered the fanboys for a downmod on such a informative, well thought out, and detailed post. Then again, I'm knocking the holy iPad, so I should figure as such.
But you just proved my point. You're doing the X number of casual things the iPad (tablets in general though) are used for. You said it yourself. You use a calendar, read books, and take notes.
Nowhere in your post did you say you actually write papers, make bibliographies, use SPSS for your calculus class (which *everyone* takes), use a spreadsheet for any courses, use and interact with Blackboard which pretty much every school uses.
See my point?
Once you attempt the above, where do you turn? Not to an iPad.
I laughed so hard I almost was crying. You are right. I've been in that station. It truly is the portal to hell. Best description of it I've ever heard.
But when the world over finally realizes it's collecting dust, will they buy another?
Yes.
Maybe that's because I never used my iPad for any bullshit. I always knew what I wanted it for and that's what I'm using it for. It's a great device for many things while I'm on the road or otherwise not at my desk. If I just want to check if I got new mail, the iPhone will do. When I actually want to process my mail, with replies and all, iPad is great.
The problem is there are no instances where it does anything more than bullshit. So no. They most likely won't buy another. More on this later.
Tom, with your UID, c'mon I expected more.
You must come from the old-school like me. Are you serious when you say you can type out real emails, like the ones for work, from an iPad keyboard? It doesn't even have haptic response. I can't even imagine doing it with haptic, but I could buy your argument. But a normal iPad on-screen keyboard? No. And you can't use the argument of using a BT Keyboard. Because then you have... tada--a laptop!
And if you're using it on the road, then why not just use the cellphone? You admit it's for in a pinch. So you're not doing anything real with it. And the apps are the same. And short of browsing the web, apps don't display more content. They display a longer list of news in say a newsreader, but that's it. So in your situation, again, the tablet is irrelevant. The smartphone satisfies it. So again, no need for a iPad/Tablet. Hence no need to buy another.
I'm curious as to the specific examples you actually do more than watch movies or play Pandora on it. Office work? No. DataViz Office can't get any Word or Excel formatting correct, is missing a ton of features, you have to use their proprietary storage to simply get files onto your iPad. Hell, it can't even do headers or footers! And like u said, u can't code or do any sort of web dev on it. Say you are in sales--Salesforce mobile doesn't even work past a search of clients. You can't even browse your full list of contacts, leads, or opportunities. It just doesn't even have the option beyond recent. So good luck with that.
So you're spending $500 on something just to read e-mail?
I'm serious about this--what do u do on the road that is anything more than bullshit?
I can't tell if your post is serious. It certainly made me chuckle.
As for shooting and editing movies? You mean with the shitty VGA camera on the back of the iPad? Or the extent of their editing movies is removing red-eye or adding music? Oh wait, it's transferring that home movie of 4 GB via *dropbox* because Apple won't let you transfer anything to your iPad any other way short of *emailing* yourself? Wait wait! I know! Once you edit it, you can then transfer it to another app on the iPad! Wait, you can't do that. You must email it back to yourself, then take that, and email that 4GB movie file to ANOTHER app. Bravo!
But hey, go ahead and call me gramps. Buy an iPad. I hope you do. Everyone will win. Apple will get your money, get it every other year because they deprecate a 3 year old iPad by having the software force-obselete you, you get your new Shiny all the time, competing technologies will be forced to offer us consumers more and a cheaper price, and finally:
Idiots like you will get punished by having their money seperated from them. It's a win all around!
I'm serious. Please buy another iPad. Do it. For me. It benefits me.
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Amen to that. You are spot on. That's why I just ignore Apple articles most of the time. You know they're just plant stories. Don't ever expect actual news or critical reporting on it. Or even any depth. Or even a slightly critical sentence on one annoying detail. The articles just repeat memes over and over and over. I was just reading some article the other day, it was really good. The guy actually spoke of a few features that he didn't like. *Actually* mentioned the features. And I was like "oh yea, now I remember why I never bought a Mac back in the day. Brain dead design functions and lack of features--just think of QT for Windows, ugh." Even though I am constantly unconsciously swayed by their supposed "perfect" hardware that is so sexy, that is repeated EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. by supposed tech sites.
I wonder what people think about their beloved Mac when they have all these problems that come to rise? When they get a spinning beachball or finder crashed once a week? Do they get pissed or rationalize it like usual cultists?
And as for the stock, I know what u mean. It's going up so high because institutional people are buying it because retail people are suckers and think "OMG OMG apple forever!" They flat-out know that the people are idiots and will continue to buy. But then when the musical chairs drop, they'll act like institutional investors: they'll have no problem walking away and taking their profit. But the retail investor will hold on "because it's Apple!". Problem is, when institutional sells, stocks drop, because just a few institutions holds more shares than all the retail investors in the country. So all those fanboys will be left with nothing. Can't say they don't deserve it though.
And it also doesn't help that institutional investors read the WSJ, and we all know that they're a shill with the resident "Walt Moss-Puppet."
Wow. You brought back some memories. Been a long time since I heard dBase and WordStar. I miss WordStar *sniff*.
But you completely illustrated my entire point. You were a user of Word 97 and like most people probably never learned anything more. Used none of the new features. None of the new tools or used the new workflow of the new Offices that made things easier, faster, etc. The revamped ribbon in 2010 for example made discovery awesome. I've been using Word/Excel professionally for years and even then I discovered new shit I never even knew existed, thanks to the ribbon. Or pivottable reports. So much freaking better. Could Word 97 even do PivotTables?
So you gave your hand right in the beginning. You even said all you do is databases.
Now, who in their right mind uses Access for DB's anyway? Everyone has known that Access is just "thrown in" and not to be used since us normal users got to use Linux and therefore PostgreSQL or MySQL. There is legacy stuff and enterprise installations, such as what you do at work. Dude, don't yell at me. Blame your work and or IT managers for *ever* choosing a choice that no one ever makes sanely and has known about for 15 years.
Let's take a step back here. I've been using Linux since 1995. Since Slackware v 2 IIRC. So you can fool most of the Apple sheep on here with ur BS, but not me. I was configuring apache servers and Sendmail servers since well, forever.
Apple has rudimentary BSD userland tools. It was just based on a BSD kernel and to show the press "UNIX!" they put some userland shit around it to make you feel all fuzzy. Compare that userland to FreeBSD today or a full distro of say CentOS or Debian. If you're doing anything heavy "UNIX-like" or using anything POSIX related, or want anything better than god awful fink and want up-to-date and featureful UNIX apps from a good package manager like apt or yum, you use a real distro.
There is no shame in dual-booting. Just don't pretend that OSX is the better choice.
Wait, why am I even arguing? I'm realizing the futility of typing this post out as I do it.
You're just the idiot.
I've haven't experience the pain of loading Adobe apps in a while ha. But again, once it's loaded, why would you ever close it? And since you mention lightroom, surely your workstation has 24-32GB of RAM in it at least. You eat up all your RAM and your box bogs down because it's running constantly from swap?
Though that is good to know about closing many tabs in web browsers. I never had that problem, but I am always opening and closing my browser completely because of security (other sites read what you have open, or malicious software places overlays on your logins, etc) or just plan want to avoid memory leaks from browsers.
Did you read my post at all? You missed the entire point. I never reboot. Only when I have to reboot for patches. So this point is moot.
So don't.
It's simple. Spend the $120 for the home and student perpetual and stop whining.
It amazes me that people are such boneheads. Have people actually used Office 2010 or are they still armchair quarterbacks spouting BS because they used Word 95 back in the day? Libre is awesome, no doubt, but let's not pretend it's even in the same league as office. Libre is comparable to Office 97, maybe.
Are you people seriously bitching about spending $120 on one of the most featureful, useful, advanced, and complex pieces of software today? And MS isn't Apple, they support their stuff. So you can spend $120 and skip each one, so in effect you are spending $120 every SIX years! People have no problem spending ridiculous amounts of money on other shit, but "OH NO! I don't want to spend $20 per year on the world's most useful software GRRR!"
Idiots.
How is it for data analysis and modeling? Specifically how does Libre compare to Excel with Pivot Tables, charts, etc.? The Libre documentation PDF is awesome and extensive (like 400 pages!) but mentions no word of Pivot Tables.
As a side note, I disagree with you on cut-and-paste. I bought a spectacular book, can't remmeber the name, it's like Office Inside and Out, by Ed Bott who has been around since forever. Read up on Excel. Excel 2010 is pretty amazing and you'll see how awesome it's clipboard system rocks.
And obligatory Yea yea "use SPSS like u should" for data modeling. But businesses don't give a crap. In the real world, we use Excel.
Oh my god. If I have to read one more BS Apple story like this on the internet, I'm going to go nuts.
Apple lovers must be stopped. They're driving ad revenue and hits to all these *retarded* articles. They keep writing them because people keep clicking on them. STOP IT people!
Maybe I should just follow "if u can't beat em, join em." I should just post "Using an iPhone gives you crabs" or "iPhone as valuable as cream of wheat" and watch the money roll in.
I just laugh. Remember that new screw hoax? They said "they just make it too easy."
They provide bug fixes. Not updates. 3GS and 4 won't get all the goodness of iOS 6. Let's not pretend they are still getting an update.
Also don't forget Google didn't need to provide a lot of updates (notice i didn't say bugfixes) because it had features that iOS lacked for ages, like the newly touted turn-by-turns directions, Google-earth ripoff, poor man's version of cloud functionality as opposed to badass Google's implementation, etc.
You are correct in theory. And I agree with you.
But in reality: people buy from whomever has the most/best marketing.
They buy Apple because they saw some hipster douche on TV ripping on a silly nerd, or because they have a hipster douche friend who shouts to get an iPhone every day at their friend, or because a girl thinks "it looks cute" and then proceeds to put a Burberry case and bedazzles on it.
OSX may have BSD tools and shell access. But let's not kid ourselves here. If you want anything more than a terminal and some utils, OSX ain't it. Full Linux distro or don't bother. Don't fool our fellow devs into spending $1200 to buy a MBA when they can slap Ubuntu onto a machine they already own or run it in a VM to get what they need and use Windows otherwise for games/multimedia/etc.
I don't disagree with you about Android on updates. Pisses me off to no end. But let's not act like Apple is a saint either. 3GS and 4 owners won't get the full upgrade of iOS6. Just bugfixes. And let's not forget that they're only supporting the 3GS because everyone still has one. There would be customer rage if they didn't. Otherwise, look at the iPad. No upgrade AT ALL, yet it was only released like 2 or less than 2 years ago, and is MORE powerful than the 3GS.
After you bought your magical iPad, they said F YOU, buy the iPad 3 or screw off.
Do we know Apple's method of reporting sales? The actual method? Do you have a link? I'm not flamebaiting here. I'm too lazy to check out their annual report. Apple is already guilty of spouting BS non-verifiable sales metrics right now with their pre-orders, but what is the deal in how they report actual sales? And do people actually want them? Meaning, if I have an IPad 2, I'm not going to buy a 3. Or do they still feel content with the original iPad.
Fanboys don't give these things, that's why we just hear the usual memes repeated. I wonder what the real numbers are.
Verbatim. Apple will lose again. Already is. Hence the ravenous patent troll lawsuits.
Not that I feel bad though for a company which is more evil than MS was back in the day.
Probably *exceeds* Apple's profit. Google/Android make money on ads. With 500,000 activations of Android phones per DAY, that's an awful lot of ad and market data potential.
"Company says that it's products are the best selling ever, according to non-validated internal company figures!"
Funny how stupid it sounds when you put it that way.
Oh god I know what you mean. WTF is Slashdot lately. Though these BS news stories with Apple have been going on since the beginning. It's scary though because these fanboy articles are starting to be written in respected places like Reuters and Forbes. I saw it recently and couldn't believe the the bias in the article. It was like "Apple made boring new iPhone with no new features but that's ok because it sells a lot." Like I just sold a steaming pile of turds and put it in a box, but because people ordered a lot it was a quality product. It was like Apple just wrote their articles for them.
Fanboys we expect this from, but now it's creeping into real journals. Scary. Though it's funny that sensationalist places for news like Yahoo News and CNet already say it like it is--it was boring, now new features, and Apple is running out of steam. Irony.
This is a genuine question, not flamebait. You've seen the difference first-hand. The question is, how much difference.
I know it's trendy to throw around boot times and loading applications. But these are PCs. The proper current day usage is to NOT boot, but sleep (suspend to RAM) and NOT keep loading applications from memory, but rather not even make it a consideration--run as many programs in RAM as possible. Unused RAM is wasted RAM. RAM is so cheap and so fast--MaximumPC made a Ramdisk and compared it to a SSD. SSD is ~500MB/sec, for example. RAM is 8000MB/sec. But anyway, so if you never close MS Word and you rarely reboot but instantly awake from sleep (not hibernate--useless IMHO anyway because it takes as long as booting*--might as well do a full reboot and get rid of mem leaks).
So the question is, by *properly* using our PCs, do you notice a real difference? And as for IOPS, which web browsing from history is IOPS heavy, I remember that the new MBA and the new Asus ZenBook were just as fast as ones with HDDs (my personal experience by using friends' machines). And applications simply do not take long to load--the only terrible offender is just shitty-coding--LibreOffice. Short of transferring a large media file, I don't see the difference at all. And I notice these little things.
And let me just say though that I don't disagree. Ever since the dawn of PCs, HD's were the slowest link (except floppies and CDROMS). A SSD is still the most significant upgrade that can be made.
* As a side note, booting doesn't take long on a modern day FRESH install of Win7 on a HDD. This is slashdot, we should all be using freshly-wiped and installed OS's and not vendor laden cruft-balls.
Really? This article is just dumb. And ridiculous. And link-bait.
Stop with the BS "like Apple" stories and OMG Apple-is-amazing stories!
You seriously got modded a 4 for that?
Ugh, slashdot. Where is that picard ASCII art with him putting his head in his hand.
I write an insightful and informative post. You reply with a douche comment and you're praised for it.
Pathetic.
Why are you defending a company which wants to rip off its customers? It's the same logic as fanboys who brag that "but Apple doesn't care about charging low prices and is making a ton of money!" Yea, brag that you not only you're dumb enough to get paid more and got ripped off, but also saying "Thank you sir, may i have another?
Believe it or not, there are some businesses who make money but who also deliver what the customer wants.
Shocking!
The problem is there are no instances where it does anything more than bullshit. So no. They most likely won't buy another. More on this later.
Tom, with your UID, c'mon I expected more.
You must come from the old-school like me. Are you serious when you say you can type out real emails, like the ones for work, from an iPad keyboard? It doesn't even have haptic response. I can't even imagine doing it with haptic, but I could buy your argument. But a normal iPad on-screen keyboard? No. And you can't use the argument of using a BT Keyboard. Because then you have... tada--a laptop!
And if you're using it on the road, then why not just use the cellphone? You admit it's for in a pinch. So you're not doing anything real with it. And the apps are the same. And short of browsing the web, apps don't display more content. They display a longer list of news in say a newsreader, but that's it. So in your situation, again, the tablet is irrelevant. The smartphone satisfies it. So again, no need for a iPad/Tablet. Hence no need to buy another.
I'm curious as to the specific examples you actually do more than watch movies or play Pandora on it. Office work? No. DataViz Office can't get any Word or Excel formatting correct, is missing a ton of features, you have to use their proprietary storage to simply get files onto your iPad. Hell, it can't even do headers or footers! And like u said, u can't code or do any sort of web dev on it. Say you are in sales--Salesforce mobile doesn't even work past a search of clients. You can't even browse your full list of contacts, leads, or opportunities. It just doesn't even have the option beyond recent. So good luck with that.
So you're spending $500 on something just to read e-mail?
I'm serious about this--what do u do on the road that is anything more than bullshit?
Wow, guess I angered the fanboys for a downmod on such a informative, well thought out, and detailed post. Then again, I'm knocking the holy iPad, so I should figure as such.
Le sigh.
But you just proved my point. You're doing the X number of casual things the iPad (tablets in general though) are used for. You said it yourself. You use a calendar, read books, and take notes.
Nowhere in your post did you say you actually write papers, make bibliographies, use SPSS for your calculus class (which *everyone* takes), use a spreadsheet for any courses, use and interact with Blackboard which pretty much every school uses.
See my point?
Once you attempt the above, where do you turn? Not to an iPad.
I laughed so hard I almost was crying. You are right. I've been in that station. It truly is the portal to hell. Best description of it I've ever heard.
But when the world over finally realizes it's collecting dust, will they buy another?
Yes.
Maybe that's because I never used my iPad for any bullshit. I always knew what I wanted it for and that's what I'm using it for. It's a great device for many things while I'm on the road or otherwise not at my desk. If I just want to check if I got new mail, the iPhone will do. When I actually want to process my mail, with replies and all, iPad is great.
The problem is there are no instances where it does anything more than bullshit. So no. They most likely won't buy another. More on this later.
Tom, with your UID, c'mon I expected more.
You must come from the old-school like me. Are you serious when you say you can type out real emails, like the ones for work, from an iPad keyboard? It doesn't even have haptic response. I can't even imagine doing it with haptic, but I could buy your argument. But a normal iPad on-screen keyboard? No. And you can't use the argument of using a BT Keyboard. Because then you have... tada--a laptop!
And if you're using it on the road, then why not just use the cellphone? You admit it's for in a pinch. So you're not doing anything real with it. And the apps are the same. And short of browsing the web, apps don't display more content. They display a longer list of news in say a newsreader, but that's it. So in your situation, again, the tablet is irrelevant. The smartphone satisfies it. So again, no need for a iPad/Tablet. Hence no need to buy another.
I'm curious as to the specific examples you actually do more than watch movies or play Pandora on it. Office work? No. DataViz Office can't get any Word or Excel formatting correct, is missing a ton of features, you have to use their proprietary storage to simply get files onto your iPad. Hell, it can't even do headers or footers! And like u said, u can't code or do any sort of web dev on it. Say you are in sales--Salesforce mobile doesn't even work past a search of clients. You can't even browse your full list of contacts, leads, or opportunities. It just doesn't even have the option beyond recent. So good luck with that.
So you're spending $500 on something just to read e-mail?
I'm serious about this--what do u do on the road that is anything more than bullshit?
I can't tell if your post is serious. It certainly made me chuckle.
As for shooting and editing movies? You mean with the shitty VGA camera on the back of the iPad? Or the extent of their editing movies is removing red-eye or adding music? Oh wait, it's transferring that home movie of 4 GB via *dropbox* because Apple won't let you transfer anything to your iPad any other way short of *emailing* yourself? Wait wait! I know! Once you edit it, you can then transfer it to another app on the iPad! Wait, you can't do that. You must email it back to yourself, then take that, and email that 4GB movie file to ANOTHER app. Bravo!
But hey, go ahead and call me gramps. Buy an iPad. I hope you do. Everyone will win. Apple will get your money, get it every other year because they deprecate a 3 year old iPad by having the software force-obselete you, you get your new Shiny all the time, competing technologies will be forced to offer us consumers more and a cheaper price, and finally:
Idiots like you will get punished by having their money seperated from them. It's a win all around!
I'm serious. Please buy another iPad. Do it. For me. It benefits me.