Who gives a shit. Every project available is governed by the contractual agreement the owner/developer/patent holder applied to it. One cannot justify saying that it should be one way just because it would better suit a broader audience in one individual's perspective. If the general public cannot govern themselves then what is the point of doing business. Why the hell should anybody do anything for anyone else. We might as well just destroy one market to destroy every other market in existence. The ignorant view of people is astounding sometimes.
I'm not putting blame on you Estanislao. I'm just pushing the argument further. Fundamentally those two stipulations provide so much conflict it's impossible for people to see straight. If private property is forced into public domain then why even try to do anything. But at the same time, if there is an exploit out there shouldn't the consumer be able to protect themselves in a timely, respectful manner? I'm about ready to dump Linux and focus solely on BSD. This bullshit of open standards is wearing thin quickly to no general benefit to business or even the consumers the software is trying to provide a solution for.
but the evolution of Linux begins at the base. With new releases being a norm every six months, new developments come and go. The linux kernel is the fundamental base. The extensions surrounding the kernel should have a fundamental to reshape how the kernel is exploited. There needs to be a market leader to invest time and resources to simplify how the kernel should be exploited. It will change the dynamic for Linux distributions while maintaining the integrity of the opensource community. The fundamental of the kernel isn't the problem, it's the fundamental of the extensions surrounding the kernel that is.
In my belief, there needs to be a distribution that bridges the gaps between other distros, then another one to break down dependencies exclusively. It doesn't necessarily require totalitarian consolidation but there needs to be a community effort to focus on variations of the types of consolidation.
Fedora has done great efforts with security but has some fault with stability for certain features. It's cutting edge just not as stable as I would like it to be at times. OpenSuSE has stability, ease of use and great insight into stable features but with encrypting the root and swap partition by copying files over to another partition, repartition, then move the files back is a bit of a stretch for the average user. The system updates could be more aggressive but hardware support for nvidia and ati drivers is perfection. Debian is great and stable, very proactive in terms of updates but in terms of getting it to meet up to current technological standards without sacrificing it's open integrity is the only thing that keeps me from switching over fulltime. Ubuntu needs stability. Most of the updates are no more than scripts to get things by. You see this when trying to do a base server install and then attempt to piece together a decent windows manager on top of it. If a system had the security of Fedora/Red Hat, the stability and ease of use of OpenSuSE/Novell, not to mention the integrity of Debian, you would have one hell of a distribution. If anybody has the time, they could learn a lot from Linux from Scratch. I'm doing my part but I'm just one person. Anybody out there willing to work on a project like this, I would be more than willing to help out.
The best way to answer this question comes in two parts, three if I include Microsoft. The first part is to examine what happened with XFree and Xorg a while back. XFree changed its license, people revolted and focused more effort on Xorg. Licensing can change at any level of development to fit the needs of the community but when there's a point where the project has to fork, it will fork. How this can relate to cost will be explained later.
The second example of this is compiz, beryl and compiz-fusion. It has been forked and consolidated over the life of its development. It has done this in part to provide equivalent functionality of other OSes, if not more flexible, to the Linux community. Innovation spring boarded because of how forking and consolidation worked together. I'm sure people would be hesitant to agree with this especially if they were directly involved with the development. When you're in the middle of a battle, it's hard to see straight. The value of this was flexibility in order to develop a stable package in a short amount of time and get it so it can be built upon through a community of plugin developers. While most projects never see the light of day, this one did.
I'll include one aspect of Microsoft. If you haven't read the news for the past 10-15 years you might've missed how MS treat ideas and how they assume it into their own system. A lot of the ideas and features MS provides today come from various communities that provide a means to capitalize on these ideas and then centralize the profit without concern to the communities that support it. The cost is recouped on businesses and their ability to achieve better effectiveness because of speedy implementation. MS hasn't been as speedy as I would like them to be for quite a long while. Their development cycle has slowed a bit for my own personal tastes. In a way, they are at the will of the developers willing to provide innovative code into the fray. The developers are very leery of their own patents and how other people can profit from them. While there has been a lot of change, sometimes things stay the same the more they change.
What does this mean in the long of it for OSS? Well, the cost to distribute is a problem because development relies on ISPs. Mirroring of repos can help to distribute taxation to servers. P2P can distribute the load to the end user. Developers can volunteer depending on the availability to perform. In a weird way, their own need to express themselves through code inspired the need to find ways to divert cost.
On the other side of the coin, various personal reasons can keep people from being more active. The general economy is a big part of the equation. In order for innovation to evolve at a reliable speed, a certain level of integrity of the community has to exist. Commercial involvement would be welcome as long as the flexibility to perform remains untouched. I don't speak for the community at all when I say any of this, just so you know.
Syphoning ideas from end users can only go so far. Maintaining the integrity of the dreamer can be ridiculous at times, but can provide a means to surprise every once in a while. I'm sure there are people more than willing to do anything if they knew what that thing was. All in all it is all chance unless you find a man with a plan. I think if you find that. You find your answer. And as a reminder, this is all my own humble opinion.
I really hate bashing Microsoft at this point. I'm not going to. I will say this and leave it at that. Security within Windows can be problematic if you don't properly setup your permissions. Hacking the registry helps but you either have to rely on Windows update or a third party for any real fix. You really need someone who knows what they are doing though to do it effectively. Antivirus and firewalls don't cut it all the time when you have poor policy practices. That's true for any system.
I hate suggesting this but the US government needs to implement Linux or something similar in all their security critical systems. Linux is great for setting up local repositories for local networks.
They brought awareness with their actions and brought discussion to the table. They have lost but they have informed all the CEO's, hobbyists, and nutjobs out there. While it sounds I'm being sarcastic, I'm not. The nutjobs provide some pretty good discussion. I should know. I'm one of them.
Seriously though, while they do go after some hard to crack eggshells, they do it. You have to give them some credit to actually care about something so much and to stand up for it at the same time. Everything I've seen from the EFF has been remarkable in terms of standing up and voicing their concern to everybody.
Or they could just setup a tarp with netting to keep rain and other forms of live out, excluding humans of course.
Oh yeah, one more thing. Host it in Antarctica. All datacenters should be moved to Antarctica. We don't use it for anything other than scientific research anyways. Damn global warming, we should capitalize on the cold parts of this planet.
IP Law yes protects those big heartless corporations, but without them you may not have a job.
Well, we don't need to have a corporation to be heartless when we can do it fine by ourselves. By this statement you are assuming that only the corporations have the best intention for mankind. Sure they fund R&D for great projects but they also buy IP from startups and hobbyists that know how to patent. As long as the corps have the money they have all the glory, nevermind the real people who do their part as well.
It's interesting with all the things changing so fast and on their own you would think that people could've been a little better prepared. I still have faith and courage to get through this but how are you guys faring?
I've been looking at some of the numbers and some of them don't add up. Certain things like implied costs as opposed to real trade of currency. Immaterial costs not tangible ones. With the threat of big trouble among the horizon maybe we should focus on what's really going on here so we can honestly fix the problem. People have self interests but to what cost and are people really this suicidal when push comes to shove? What is their motivation to go to these extremes? Will we even listen? Should we even care? I ask because these should be important questions we need to ask ourselves.
Find the benefit to the lie and I think things could open up a bit. Miscommunication isn't always directed by intent. Sometimes it's best to appear ignorant and stupid then to be labelled as manipulative and corrupt. What do I know though. I'm a wild man within the wilderness yelling to myself. Labels always seem to win out.
One more thing outside of this sermon. For all the people talking about Indiana Jones, learn how to press the Reply button. Either that's the problem or we got massive hivemind going on here on an epic scale.
Sucky they would use silverlight. I'm watching it on the CNN live feed through Totem. Have to make sure you have the fluendo codecs or any other gstreamer derivative to watch them though but it works.
There has been a lot of this lately. I have my fears and doubts. I have an idea of where this is heading. Kind of curious how all this will play out. It sucks that it had to get to the point where we're at now, but it's amazing to see people able to see an opportunity for the development of new businesses the way Yahoo and Google did in the early to mid nineties. It will be a great time for investors when they find the right type of product that will perform.
In the sake of adding a comment strictly for fluff and doing it without posting as an anonymous coward, the least we could do is say thanks for all the work you guys did. Mitchell Baker's speech was more than on par with where our minds and hearts should be. A free and open Internet to express one's thoughts, regardless of how misguided they may be, is a right we must protect. Congratulations on a job well done. Keep up the good work.
With all that has been going on with these cases, there has been tons of money thrown down the drain through court costs and layers fees. Most of it on the side of the recording industry. They haven't made any dent in which accounts for anything. I understand going after legitimate pirates who attempt to profit from shared distribution. People like that need to be jailed. With the industries failure to create a viable model of distribution within the digital age, I start to ask are they spending all their time on lawsuits while hoping the internet is a passing fad? I think it's time they wake up to reality and take a good look at what is already available and accept it. Acceptance can be a bitch sometimes but what else can you do sometimes, right?
RIAA, please just move on. This is getting embarrassing.
Yep, there's the main problem right there. While everyone tries to pass this off, having access to a root account like this is pretty scary. Considering bitlocker is a feature for the business end of windows vista, most of the other versions are pretty much vulnerable. Hopefully they get this fixed soon.
the bottom is pretty much binary. already tried to decode it and it comes up with gibberish. the mid section looks as though it comes from charmap. might try from hexadecimal from there. top consists of base-3 for sure. too lazy to actually type the combination but it looks like the combination between all three sections might decode it. doubtful but if all else fails... whoever did this had a lot of time on their hands.
Regardless, he'll end up as a scapegoat in order to fluff up the companies reputation. With all the effort put in to reforming, the company would benefit from a fresh start and new management. Change is a weird thing and you almost can't do it without a new figurehead to bring renewed interest. The thing that hurt him the most is pretty much the antics that are thrown on this site all the time. Even the reluctance to recognize the open source community could've been forgiven but temper and passion can rub certain people the wrong way.
Think of it this way. If one out of every 13 people in the entire world takes a nude picture of themselves, you would have so much porn you would've have wasted an entire life looking at each and every one of them one minute per picture.
the worst of it comes from option d. (botnets, spoofing and hijacked computers). if people just took some simple steps to correct the problem, then ISPs would have a lot less to complain about so their real justification can be exposed for what it is; ripping off the customer with some ill designed get rich scheme.
actually, they do revolt when their government starts to do this on a broad and sweeping level. when it's isolated it to a single person that can be taken advantage of, it is hard to pinpoint the actual abuse. you see a lot of this with rape and other forms of abuse outside of government intimidation and mistreatment.
Slashdot, you helped answer an old question I had several years back. Aside from the usual Linux/Microsoft banter, it provides some insight into adjustments to market shifts. We see this event naturally in social groups. Its cool because it means that progression has a realistic chance of survival in our modern world.
Whether or not Microsoft succeeds or not doesn't really matter at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if they turned it around with all the money they have. In the end they will probably end up like Apple did before Steve Jobs came back or IBM before Steve Jobs first came into the market. It would be a shame for Microsoft to waste money on a company that might or might not provide a solution. It's a huge risk, they need to focus on where the market it going and how to adapt through their own independent will.
I guess another question you have to ask is do you build software first and figure out its function and surrounding politics or do you focus on the politics and build software around it.
Sorry, I need to be a little bit more clear. They gave up their citizenship from the US and became citizens of New Zealand. I don't know their reasons but it was a weird coincidence. Too lazy to provide a source but the information is out there. Check census records.
A lot of things have been going on there for quite a long while. IMHO The main reason for it was due to Bush entering into office in 2000. I'm not trying to be a flamebait but there was a mass exodus of around 50,000 engineers that gave up their citizenship when he entered into office. Since then, there have been huge leaps and bounds in advancement of technology within the Australian border.
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Shame that one of the programmers wasn't named Will Robinson.
Who gives a shit. Every project available is governed by the contractual agreement the owner/developer/patent holder applied to it. One cannot justify saying that it should be one way just because it would better suit a broader audience in one individual's perspective. If the general public cannot govern themselves then what is the point of doing business. Why the hell should anybody do anything for anyone else. We might as well just destroy one market to destroy every other market in existence. The ignorant view of people is astounding sometimes.
I'm not putting blame on you Estanislao. I'm just pushing the argument further. Fundamentally those two stipulations provide so much conflict it's impossible for people to see straight. If private property is forced into public domain then why even try to do anything. But at the same time, if there is an exploit out there shouldn't the consumer be able to protect themselves in a timely, respectful manner? I'm about ready to dump Linux and focus solely on BSD. This bullshit of open standards is wearing thin quickly to no general benefit to business or even the consumers the software is trying to provide a solution for.
but the evolution of Linux begins at the base. With new releases being a norm every six months, new developments come and go. The linux kernel is the fundamental base. The extensions surrounding the kernel should have a fundamental to reshape how the kernel is exploited. There needs to be a market leader to invest time and resources to simplify how the kernel should be exploited. It will change the dynamic for Linux distributions while maintaining the integrity of the opensource community. The fundamental of the kernel isn't the problem, it's the fundamental of the extensions surrounding the kernel that is.
In my belief, there needs to be a distribution that bridges the gaps between other distros, then another one to break down dependencies exclusively. It doesn't necessarily require totalitarian consolidation but there needs to be a community effort to focus on variations of the types of consolidation.
Fedora has done great efforts with security but has some fault with stability for certain features. It's cutting edge just not as stable as I would like it to be at times. OpenSuSE has stability, ease of use and great insight into stable features but with encrypting the root and swap partition by copying files over to another partition, repartition, then move the files back is a bit of a stretch for the average user. The system updates could be more aggressive but hardware support for nvidia and ati drivers is perfection. Debian is great and stable, very proactive in terms of updates but in terms of getting it to meet up to current technological standards without sacrificing it's open integrity is the only thing that keeps me from switching over fulltime. Ubuntu needs stability. Most of the updates are no more than scripts to get things by. You see this when trying to do a base server install and then attempt to piece together a decent windows manager on top of it. If a system had the security of Fedora/Red Hat, the stability and ease of use of OpenSuSE/Novell, not to mention the integrity of Debian, you would have one hell of a distribution. If anybody has the time, they could learn a lot from Linux from Scratch. I'm doing my part but I'm just one person. Anybody out there willing to work on a project like this, I would be more than willing to help out.
The best way to answer this question comes in two parts, three if I include Microsoft. The first part is to examine what happened with XFree and Xorg a while back. XFree changed its license, people revolted and focused more effort on Xorg. Licensing can change at any level of development to fit the needs of the community but when there's a point where the project has to fork, it will fork. How this can relate to cost will be explained later.
The second example of this is compiz, beryl and compiz-fusion. It has been forked and consolidated over the life of its development. It has done this in part to provide equivalent functionality of other OSes, if not more flexible, to the Linux community. Innovation spring boarded because of how forking and consolidation worked together. I'm sure people would be hesitant to agree with this especially if they were directly involved with the development. When you're in the middle of a battle, it's hard to see straight. The value of this was flexibility in order to develop a stable package in a short amount of time and get it so it can be built upon through a community of plugin developers. While most projects never see the light of day, this one did.
I'll include one aspect of Microsoft. If you haven't read the news for the past 10-15 years you might've missed how MS treat ideas and how they assume it into their own system. A lot of the ideas and features MS provides today come from various communities that provide a means to capitalize on these ideas and then centralize the profit without concern to the communities that support it. The cost is recouped on businesses and their ability to achieve better effectiveness because of speedy implementation. MS hasn't been as speedy as I would like them to be for quite a long while. Their development cycle has slowed a bit for my own personal tastes. In a way, they are at the will of the developers willing to provide innovative code into the fray. The developers are very leery of their own patents and how other people can profit from them. While there has been a lot of change, sometimes things stay the same the more they change.
What does this mean in the long of it for OSS? Well, the cost to distribute is a problem because development relies on ISPs. Mirroring of repos can help to distribute taxation to servers. P2P can distribute the load to the end user. Developers can volunteer depending on the availability to perform. In a weird way, their own need to express themselves through code inspired the need to find ways to divert cost.
On the other side of the coin, various personal reasons can keep people from being more active. The general economy is a big part of the equation. In order for innovation to evolve at a reliable speed, a certain level of integrity of the community has to exist. Commercial involvement would be welcome as long as the flexibility to perform remains untouched. I don't speak for the community at all when I say any of this, just so you know.
Syphoning ideas from end users can only go so far. Maintaining the integrity of the dreamer can be ridiculous at times, but can provide a means to surprise every once in a while. I'm sure there are people more than willing to do anything if they knew what that thing was. All in all it is all chance unless you find a man with a plan. I think if you find that. You find your answer. And as a reminder, this is all my own humble opinion.
I really hate bashing Microsoft at this point. I'm not going to. I will say this and leave it at that. Security within Windows can be problematic if you don't properly setup your permissions. Hacking the registry helps but you either have to rely on Windows update or a third party for any real fix. You really need someone who knows what they are doing though to do it effectively. Antivirus and firewalls don't cut it all the time when you have poor policy practices. That's true for any system.
I hate suggesting this but the US government needs to implement Linux or something similar in all their security critical systems. Linux is great for setting up local repositories for local networks.
They brought awareness with their actions and brought discussion to the table. They have lost but they have informed all the CEO's, hobbyists, and nutjobs out there. While it sounds I'm being sarcastic, I'm not. The nutjobs provide some pretty good discussion. I should know. I'm one of them.
Seriously though, while they do go after some hard to crack eggshells, they do it. You have to give them some credit to actually care about something so much and to stand up for it at the same time. Everything I've seen from the EFF has been remarkable in terms of standing up and voicing their concern to everybody.
Or they could just setup a tarp with netting to keep rain and other forms of live out, excluding humans of course.
Oh yeah, one more thing. Host it in Antarctica. All datacenters should be moved to Antarctica. We don't use it for anything other than scientific research anyways. Damn global warming, we should capitalize on the cold parts of this planet.
That's nice, but I think he's more interested in analysis and management tools rather than actually running a stock market...
I think you're right. Here's a list of apps from something I just googled.
IP Law yes protects those big heartless corporations, but without them you may not have a job.
Well, we don't need to have a corporation to be heartless when we can do it fine by ourselves. By this statement you are assuming that only the corporations have the best intention for mankind. Sure they fund R&D for great projects but they also buy IP from startups and hobbyists that know how to patent. As long as the corps have the money they have all the glory, nevermind the real people who do their part as well.
It's interesting with all the things changing so fast and on their own you would think that people could've been a little better prepared. I still have faith and courage to get through this but how are you guys faring?
I've been looking at some of the numbers and some of them don't add up. Certain things like implied costs as opposed to real trade of currency. Immaterial costs not tangible ones. With the threat of big trouble among the horizon maybe we should focus on what's really going on here so we can honestly fix the problem. People have self interests but to what cost and are people really this suicidal when push comes to shove? What is their motivation to go to these extremes? Will we even listen? Should we even care? I ask because these should be important questions we need to ask ourselves.
Find the benefit to the lie and I think things could open up a bit. Miscommunication isn't always directed by intent. Sometimes it's best to appear ignorant and stupid then to be labelled as manipulative and corrupt. What do I know though. I'm a wild man within the wilderness yelling to myself. Labels always seem to win out.
One more thing outside of this sermon. For all the people talking about Indiana Jones, learn how to press the Reply button. Either that's the problem or we got massive hivemind going on here on an epic scale.
Sucky they would use silverlight. I'm watching it on the CNN live feed through Totem. Have to make sure you have the fluendo codecs or any other gstreamer derivative to watch them though but it works.
There has been a lot of this lately. I have my fears and doubts. I have an idea of where this is heading. Kind of curious how all this will play out. It sucks that it had to get to the point where we're at now, but it's amazing to see people able to see an opportunity for the development of new businesses the way Yahoo and Google did in the early to mid nineties. It will be a great time for investors when they find the right type of product that will perform.
In the sake of adding a comment strictly for fluff and doing it without posting as an anonymous coward, the least we could do is say thanks for all the work you guys did. Mitchell Baker's speech was more than on par with where our minds and hearts should be. A free and open Internet to express one's thoughts, regardless of how misguided they may be, is a right we must protect. Congratulations on a job well done. Keep up the good work.
With all that has been going on with these cases, there has been tons of money thrown down the drain through court costs and layers fees. Most of it on the side of the recording industry. They haven't made any dent in which accounts for anything. I understand going after legitimate pirates who attempt to profit from shared distribution. People like that need to be jailed. With the industries failure to create a viable model of distribution within the digital age, I start to ask are they spending all their time on lawsuits while hoping the internet is a passing fad? I think it's time they wake up to reality and take a good look at what is already available and accept it. Acceptance can be a bitch sometimes but what else can you do sometimes, right? RIAA, please just move on. This is getting embarrassing.
Everybody has their own flavor for support but does anyone do this anymore besides LFS and the hardcore hackers?
Yep, there's the main problem right there. While everyone tries to pass this off, having access to a root account like this is pretty scary. Considering bitlocker is a feature for the business end of windows vista, most of the other versions are pretty much vulnerable. Hopefully they get this fixed soon.
the bottom is pretty much binary. already tried to decode it and it comes up with gibberish. the mid section looks as though it comes from charmap. might try from hexadecimal from there. top consists of base-3 for sure. too lazy to actually type the combination but it looks like the combination between all three sections might decode it. doubtful but if all else fails... whoever did this had a lot of time on their hands.
Regardless, he'll end up as a scapegoat in order to fluff up the companies reputation. With all the effort put in to reforming, the company would benefit from a fresh start and new management. Change is a weird thing and you almost can't do it without a new figurehead to bring renewed interest. The thing that hurt him the most is pretty much the antics that are thrown on this site all the time. Even the reluctance to recognize the open source community could've been forgiven but temper and passion can rub certain people the wrong way.
Think of it this way. If one out of every 13 people in the entire world takes a nude picture of themselves, you would have so much porn you would've have wasted an entire life looking at each and every one of them one minute per picture.
the worst of it comes from option d. (botnets, spoofing and hijacked computers). if people just took some simple steps to correct the problem, then ISPs would have a lot less to complain about so their real justification can be exposed for what it is; ripping off the customer with some ill designed get rich scheme.
actually, they do revolt when their government starts to do this on a broad and sweeping level. when it's isolated it to a single person that can be taken advantage of, it is hard to pinpoint the actual abuse. you see a lot of this with rape and other forms of abuse outside of government intimidation and mistreatment.
Slashdot, you helped answer an old question I had several years back. Aside from the usual Linux/Microsoft banter, it provides some insight into adjustments to market shifts. We see this event naturally in social groups. Its cool because it means that progression has a realistic chance of survival in our modern world.
Whether or not Microsoft succeeds or not doesn't really matter at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if they turned it around with all the money they have. In the end they will probably end up like Apple did before Steve Jobs came back or IBM before Steve Jobs first came into the market. It would be a shame for Microsoft to waste money on a company that might or might not provide a solution. It's a huge risk, they need to focus on where the market it going and how to adapt through their own independent will.
I guess another question you have to ask is do you build software first and figure out its function and surrounding politics or do you focus on the politics and build software around it.
Didn't think the "Democrat" tag was working. Seen so many "Republican" tags recently, I was getting kind of worried.
Sorry, I need to be a little bit more clear. They gave up their citizenship from the US and became citizens of New Zealand. I don't know their reasons but it was a weird coincidence. Too lazy to provide a source but the information is out there. Check census records.
A lot of things have been going on there for quite a long while. IMHO The main reason for it was due to Bush entering into office in 2000. I'm not trying to be a flamebait but there was a mass exodus of around 50,000 engineers that gave up their citizenship when he entered into office. Since then, there have been huge leaps and bounds in advancement of technology within the Australian border.