The census is for statistics you idiot. It also asks your age and gender. In fact every single question on the census could be a basis for discrimination. How much you make a year? Classism. People could despise you for being a family man, or not trust you for being 40 and single.
"If we're all the same, then why the special treatment to some groups and not others?" They are; notice caucasian latino and african american are ALL on the same list. (Caucasian is at the top likely because its sorted by size of groups... though if memory serves correctly it was actually alphabetical). Knowledge its self is not discriminatory. If in one state they find that black people with the same education/training so on are 1/10th as likely to get a job they should definitely look into it. Ignoring race is good, but you need to make sure the system is fair at the same time. Without doing so the people who DON'T ignore race will be the ones fucking the whole system up.
Most small businesses can't afford 50hrs of lawyers fees a month for 3years. (About $500,000). Or if you try to go cheap and represent yourself they still can't afford to have their business partial stopped, have their stock dropped to nothing. And you boss of the company losing maybe 150 hours a month putting up a decent defense will surely have an effect on the company. In MOST case right or wrong don't matter. A big company can make anyone eat minimum a half million dollar bill. When I was starting up my company my lawyer cited an average $800,000 for ip suits, regardless of who wins. It only gets interesting when both sides can eat a million dollar loss without being too damaged (30million+ net-worth companies)
its about competition. Other free services would never do this. And though we don't pay them, they get money from us. So we can complain. That said. Yahoo please die already, noone has liked you since '96.
didn't mention spammers or arsonists or profit at all. I'm just saying the guy caused like 30$ worth of bandwidth dmg and maybe killed one site for less than a day. Disruptive obviously. Worth 1.5years of a humans life? Fuck No. Make him do 40hours comunity service and pay for the bandwidth. That much more than exceeds what he did and it is GOOD for society. You Americans have a very strange sense of justice. 'Punishing the bad guys'. It is not helpful.
1~1.5 YEARS in prison for a relatively minor script kiddie DDOS? Thats way way WAY too harsh. He would have got less if he went their climbed up the pole and manually cut their connection. Thats WITH a plea. Totally not fair.
4) They are simply covering their asses incase they accidentally send a program with malware through their store. If you install an ap through a source other than the store they cannot killswitch it. Which means about 10seconds more effort to install something at WORST.
American government? AKA the place that made the patriot act? I really doubt internationally anyone has faith in the US government. Buuut you are probably just flamebaiting me.
I agree that it was gross and kind of unethical to be posted like that. BUT what should wikileaks have done 'nothing to see here move along'? That would have seriously damaged its reputation and trustability. Their purpose is to post for all to see things that officials want to keep hidden. Because there were questions of her innocence and so on it had to be posted because it COULD have been important. As much as its embarrassing to lose your personal informations it is good to end speculation and show you have nothing to hide. (Thinking from an if I were Palin pov)
I'm so pissed here in ontario proportional representation failed. WTF is wrong with voters? 'we want our votes to mean less and have broken minority government forever.'
With those 3 options ICANN it should be but wouldnt the UN or something international make sense? I'm sure the UN can find a few guys that understand DNS well. Really all you have to do 99% of the time is not fuck anything up so my pet cat could do it until something needs changing a year or w/e down the road.
this is not a left vs right argument. And i think the kid should be punished for breaking the law. But 250,000$ for hacking an email account? The love bug should be charged quadrillions of dollars at that rate. Maybe 2,000 and probation for a first offense. Also, to be fair she had two yahoo accounts one of which allegations of breaking the rules proved to be wellfounded.
People in the military lose a lot of rights. People in prison don't have rights to privacy. Hell if you are a paramedic it is illegal to ignore someone saying help. You aren't born a politician it is a choice, and the freedoms can be given up in that circumstance just like the military...
Yes. I'd be willing to give up privacy to help the country. And the hope is that people without anything to hide would come to power. I mean i hope being honest is more likely than being trained from birth to be the perfect liar.
No i'm saying change the law so that there is more transparency and less privacy afforded to government officials. Sarah palin was under investigation for using outside emails to get around subpoenas and oversight (obviously against the rules). I'm perfectly fine with her loss of privacy in this regard. And i'd feel even more strongly if it were obama (as he is likely to be president his corruption would be even more important). Politicians are supposed to be our civil servants NOT our masters.
While nothing was found on the gov.palin account stuff WAS found on gov.sarah@yahoo.com account. It think it is fair that if she was using one outside adress to get around the rules using another isn't that far of a leap.
Of course i'm saying the bar should be lower for congresscritters. And palin was under investigation for corruption specifically the kind of thing you could find in personal email... seems good enough to me.
It could be updated by the users of firefox, assuming the world didnt move to the west 20meters you should be able to figure out a few routers moving at a time. Sounds like a really fun/interesting code challenge.
I do think that Bidens and all other congressional emails (through GOV accounts) should be available/read by 3rd party. And when corruption is found like in palins case then a whole lot more privacy should be lost. If i rob a bank, the government searches my house which is obviously an invasion of privacy. If a congress person (palin) corruptly fires safety commission over a personal argument then she should have her logs checked. Seems pretty simple... citizen emails would not need to be public because we don't make billion dollar decisions.
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The census is for statistics you idiot. It also asks your age and gender. In fact every single question on the census could be a basis for discrimination. How much you make a year? Classism. People could despise you for being a family man, or not trust you for being 40 and single.
"If we're all the same, then why the special treatment to some groups and not others?"
They are; notice caucasian latino and african american are ALL on the same list. (Caucasian is at the top likely because its sorted by size of groups... though if memory serves correctly it was actually alphabetical). Knowledge its self is not discriminatory. If in one state they find that black people with the same education/training so on are 1/10th as likely to get a job they should definitely look into it. Ignoring race is good, but you need to make sure the system is fair at the same time. Without doing so the people who DON'T ignore race will be the ones fucking the whole system up.
By that logic Linux should be able to rob banks until they get 20% market share. Sorry, it doesn't fly.
Most small businesses can't afford 50hrs of lawyers fees a month for 3years. (About $500,000). Or if you try to go cheap and represent yourself they still can't afford to have their business partial stopped, have their stock dropped to nothing. And you boss of the company losing maybe 150 hours a month putting up a decent defense will surely have an effect on the company. In MOST case right or wrong don't matter. A big company can make anyone eat minimum a half million dollar bill. When I was starting up my company my lawyer cited an average $800,000 for ip suits, regardless of who wins. It only gets interesting when both sides can eat a million dollar loss without being too damaged (30million+ net-worth companies)
its about competition. Other free services would never do this. And though we don't pay them, they get money from us. So we can complain. That said. Yahoo please die already, noone has liked you since '96.
wow rated to 5 for not RTFA. /. mods tsk tsk! tsk tsk I say.
didn't mention spammers or arsonists or profit at all. I'm just saying the guy caused like 30$ worth of bandwidth dmg and maybe killed one site for less than a day. Disruptive obviously. Worth 1.5years of a humans life? Fuck No. Make him do 40hours comunity service and pay for the bandwidth. That much more than exceeds what he did and it is GOOD for society. You Americans have a very strange sense of justice. 'Punishing the bad guys'. It is not helpful.
"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you" so you want people to smash your car up and force yout to do tech support?
1~1.5 YEARS in prison for a relatively minor script kiddie DDOS? Thats way way WAY too harsh. He would have got less if he went their climbed up the pole and manually cut their connection. Thats WITH a plea. Totally not fair.
4) They are simply covering their asses incase they accidentally send a program with malware through their store. If you install an ap through a source other than the store they cannot killswitch it. Which means about 10seconds more effort to install something at WORST.
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I think at this point I only read /. to depress myself thinking about the affairs of government.
American government? AKA the place that made the patriot act? I really doubt internationally anyone has faith in the US government. Buuut you are probably just flamebaiting me.
I agree that it was gross and kind of unethical to be posted like that. BUT what should wikileaks have done 'nothing to see here move along'? That would have seriously damaged its reputation and trustability. Their purpose is to post for all to see things that officials want to keep hidden. Because there were questions of her innocence and so on it had to be posted because it COULD have been important. As much as its embarrassing to lose your personal informations it is good to end speculation and show you have nothing to hide. (Thinking from an if I were Palin pov)
I'm so pissed here in ontario proportional representation failed. WTF is wrong with voters? 'we want our votes to mean less and have broken minority government forever.'
With those 3 options ICANN it should be but wouldnt the UN or something international make sense? I'm sure the UN can find a few guys that understand DNS well. Really all you have to do 99% of the time is not fuck anything up so my pet cat could do it until something needs changing a year or w/e down the road.
Pretty sure it was understood as such....
this is not a left vs right argument. And i think the kid should be punished for breaking the law. But 250,000$ for hacking an email account? The love bug should be charged quadrillions of dollars at that rate. Maybe 2,000 and probation for a first offense. Also, to be fair she had two yahoo accounts one of which allegations of breaking the rules proved to be wellfounded.
People in the military lose a lot of rights. People in prison don't have rights to privacy. Hell if you are a paramedic it is illegal to ignore someone saying help. You aren't born a politician it is a choice, and the freedoms can be given up in that circumstance just like the military...
Yes. I'd be willing to give up privacy to help the country. And the hope is that people without anything to hide would come to power. I mean i hope being honest is more likely than being trained from birth to be the perfect liar.
No i'm saying change the law so that there is more transparency and less privacy afforded to government officials. Sarah palin was under investigation for using outside emails to get around subpoenas and oversight (obviously against the rules). I'm perfectly fine with her loss of privacy in this regard. And i'd feel even more strongly if it were obama (as he is likely to be president his corruption would be even more important). Politicians are supposed to be our civil servants NOT our masters.
From the washington post: 'Palin's e-mail policies do show a certain Rovian (or perhaps Cheneyesque) partiality for secrecy. The New York Times reported last Sunday that shortly after she took office, Palin's aides discussed the benefits of using private e-mail accounts, with one assistant noting that messages sent to Palin's BlackBerry "would be confidential and not subject to subpoena." In June, Andrée McLeod, a Republican activist in Alaska, filed a public-records request for copies of all e-mails sent between two of Palin's aides, Ivy Frye and Frank Bailey. (McLeod suspected the aides of various ethical violations.) Palin's office parted with four boxes of e-mail, but it refused to disclose more than 1,000 other messages, claiming executive privilege. '
While nothing was found on the gov.palin account stuff WAS found on gov.sarah@yahoo.com account. It think it is fair that if she was using one outside adress to get around the rules using another isn't that far of a leap.
Their earning capacity is like 1% as well...
Of course i'm saying the bar should be lower for congresscritters. And palin was under investigation for corruption specifically the kind of thing you could find in personal email ... seems good enough to me.
It could be updated by the users of firefox, assuming the world didnt move to the west 20meters you should be able to figure out a few routers moving at a time. Sounds like a really fun/interesting code challenge.
I do think that Bidens and all other congressional emails (through GOV accounts) should be available/read by 3rd party. And when corruption is found like in palins case then a whole lot more privacy should be lost. If i rob a bank, the government searches my house which is obviously an invasion of privacy. If a congress person (palin) corruptly fires safety commission over a personal argument then she should have her logs checked. Seems pretty simple... citizen emails would not need to be public because we don't make billion dollar decisions.