Sociopaths also do well in CS generally because well it is filled by nerds. Hell aspbergers is insanely common in CS and it manifests itself in a way somewhat related to sociopathy (before you freak out, i mean they both suck at people skills, not that nerds have no souls or however you view sociopaths). IT is a whole network of people that are brilliant but with on average poor people skills. It isn't surprising women don't fit in as well. The female brain on average is much better at socializing or at least expend a large portion of their thought on it (nature not nurture btw).
In my university (for CS) there were a decent number of girls in my classes... about 30%. Of those I would say about 15% of them were merely interested in nerd guys. 15% just there for the money. 30% failed. The rest (40%) were pretty nerdy and saw cs as a possible fit.
I saw not a single, literally not one girl that I would consider a hardcore nerd the whole time. There were no girls that were coding their own projects til 3am. No girls grouping up and thinking of great company ideas. No girls bitching about google's privacy policies. No girls commonly on/.. None working on open source things. None running their own servers at home, none running linux.
There seems to be a barrier at the level of obsession. Driven females seem rare compared to men as well (not super rare or anything but less likely). And to form a CS company you need to be obsessed, driven, nerdy and have peers to take with you. Peers are rare at this point because most of the girls have dropped like flies. And the only people left are nerd guys that women have spent years attempting to crush to death. So the number of them that can form perfectly healthy friendships with you isn't 100% either.
If you want to drakes equation this go ahead. % women that go to CS
(40%) of women that are nerds in CS
(80%) of women that stay in the field
(5%) of those are obsessed
(15%) of those are driven
(25%) of the survivors have a good peer group or enough drive/obsession to make it to the top.
Yep... kinda sucks. But I must say that if there is discrimination hurting a woman's job chances in the field of CS then it is more the stereotyped thinking in the women themselves than that in the men's head. Many women believe it isn't feminine to be in CS or w/e other sexist reason, so they don't. Guys are generally happy to have more girls around. If they are as qualified as their competitors it would be rare for them to not have an equal shot at a job.
I think in the upper echelons of society even the average joes racism and sexism is MOSTLY gone. Though average joes still often fear/hate brown people (ask any brown dude if they've had experiences). In the shitholes of america though it is going strong. In ghettos, poor houses and uneducated hick towns you'd have to be a total idiot to not see rampant sexism and racism. And it is still very damaging.
Afghanistan is internationally supported unlike iraq. And it isn't a horrible clusterfuck unlike iraq. Also, most 'troops' in afghanistan are acting as cops not as a military force. You could even call them peacekeepers... many countries have peacekeepers there... the situation while both involving brown people far away is quite different.
Erm He renegotiated and resigned START. The nuclear disarmament treaty with more stringent rules set on reducing the number of nuclear arms available by more than half again. He's given speeches in multiple countries to multiple world leaders talking about the importance of disarmament.
The reason funding has been increased for nuclear weapons (i'm assuming what you heard). Is to actually clean up the nuclear weapons around the world. Like say the US has weapons on some obscure tiny island or left in some military base in an allies country. Or w/e these would be destroyed. That or they'll update the crappy 1960s buildings so that they are secure. Remember that when the nuclear holocaust was closest the passwords for the nukes were 0000. Changing things like that seems like a good idea.
Also, nuclear testing has been banned for decades, saying he is doing that is obvious bullshit. And if you feel like being bipartisan, this is in regard to the nuclear disarmament treaty:
"All 40 Republican senators and Sen. Joseph Lieberman , a Connecticut independent, implied in a letter to Obama last month that they'd block ratification of the new treaty with Russia unless he funds a "modern" warhead and new facilities at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and the Y-12 Plant in Oak Ridge, Tenn." Enjoy.
Good point. That's why all the opt out and $ for authors and attempt to track people down and so on. To reduce legal ass-rapeage. I think most courts would force a settlement fairly low due to google's attempt to do right by the author. The author is showing a CLEAR desire to just punish Google when there was clearly a much simpler solution than court available. Sorta like... google is technically wrong but trying to be good, the author would be technically right but being a total douche and wasting the courts time. (Avoiding settling issues outside the courtroom really hurts your case) Laws in practice are more flexible than they seem in books:P I imagine google would be getting off easy.
Nah, it isn't Google's doing really. Big libraries try to keep track of these things. But the point was about how it benefits the author. GP asked: "How can putting my "hard work" online for anyone to view at their leisure benefit me financially?" Clearly they can get money for very very minimal effort, in many cases none.
Giant electromagnets to collect metal dust? Plants to collect a variety of crap? (If they can reproduce then they are collecting for you) I don't know. I think mars is likely easier because well, it is more familiar to humans. And we've got a hell of a lot more experience digging caves than we do building floating islands.
That said I still think Venus is our best shot for terraforming. Venus is a really shitty place for some reasons buuut trillions of tons of plants would help a large portion of that. While I am not sure if we could get it cool enough for humans to step outside (maybe possible to do it at some altitudes or caves; I don't know).
Mars seems less reperable since it has near 0 atmosphere. AND we can't fix it by some sort of massive boiling of the surface or bringing our own due to the low gravity. So it will never be able to support much life... And I think changing the gravity is a more difficult problem than temperature.
"We have lived for thousands of years without street level photos online of our homes and without navagable photos of the insides of public buildings and retail spaces, do we really need them? Many see them as an invasion of privacy."
And clean water and electricity and cars and computers and..... What a blatantly stupid argument!
"It took being bitten by the hand that fed them to finally come out againt their own willingness to censor in China, but still show a willingness to cowtow to political and well connected interests." They did better than every single other competitor out there.
"As for books and other media, this should be a opt in system rather than an opt out. If spam was opt out many more would be protesting but its violation is the same." This is IMPOSSIBLE to do with orphaned books, we don't know, no one know who the hell owns the rights, possibly no one. And spam IS opt-out.
Copyright law is ALWAYS opt out. Think... Youtube for godssake. (Being that Youtube is not a mailman, they don't have common-carrier laws for it) There is copyrighted stuff put up and then taken down at request, ie opt out. It is your job to protect your own copyright. And Google provides an opt out where not only will they try and hunt you down to start with, if they are unable to find you but you find them. You can opt out and they'll send you like 60$+ for your trouble. Sucky and all but you won't get much sympathy from me or a judge.
Think if it were the otherway. Someone uses your photo on their website and you sue them plus damages for a few grand? Without emailing them first? Or trying to make a deal or agreement? Gooood fucking luck.
Google's original plan was to pay everyone. Basically they'd go...
"Hey, this book has been out of print for 45 years the author is dead and there are only a few hundred copies left on the planet. Lets scan it. Then let anyone who wants it dl it.... but it is copywritten, how about we charge people to dl it. With that we will pay the author money they certainly wouldn't be making otherwise. Hell, lets even throw in some extra money for when we put up each book as well. And we'll email/phone/mail/fax every person we can find that owns copyrights telling them this. If they are alive and give a shit then they can ask us to take it down. Or they can take our money. Everyone wins, tons of books available for all."
Google books is likely to be a major loss leader, it is there to keep books from a near certain doom. Also in regards to copyright law, you are supposed to defend your copyright. If you don't defend it no one will do it for you. So if you are an author and your shit is up their without your permission. You can likely take Google to court. BUT! Because google has a very very easy opt out system in which they STILL pay you even then the initial 60$ or so. It will probably be hell to get a landslide victory. The courtcase protects Google a bit further, from people signed up to the writers guild or w/e.
No! Information is staying at the same price. The distribution costs, the publishing costs, the retail costs, the advertising costs are all going in the toilet. And good riddens, all that shit is (near) worthless anyways! Information is valuable.
The populace generally needs to know that the creators of works aren't losing anything through this digital revolution. In fact they are gaining big time! They can reach way way way bigger audiences first off. Next there is a much lower barrier to entry, so all the little guys can join in. This is also good for avoiding 'selling out' since you won't have an overlord. All wonderful things for us and the creators. Only people missing out are useless vampires sucking the life out of art. If everyone realized this support in crushing the publishers/ w/e dinosaurs would be enormous.
Interestingly there seem to be things on google books that are in the public domain that aren't free or all up. Since one publisher or another wrote the particular version they scanned.
The thread was talking from a site designer POV. Assuming you aren't virusing your site to infect people than the issue doesn't matter. Though I suppose that makes the thread pretty off topic.
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If it doesn't start with windows then they aren't paying a windows tax so who cares?
And on google docs?
Are torrent sites liable when they link to torrent files which allow you to download things?
Logic doesn't always apply in the world of tech laws.
Sociopaths also do well in CS generally because well it is filled by nerds. Hell aspbergers is insanely common in CS and it manifests itself in a way somewhat related to sociopathy (before you freak out, i mean they both suck at people skills, not that nerds have no souls or however you view sociopaths). IT is a whole network of people that are brilliant but with on average poor people skills. It isn't surprising women don't fit in as well. The female brain on average is much better at socializing or at least expend a large portion of their thought on it (nature not nurture btw).
In my university (for CS) there were a decent number of girls in my classes ... about 30%. Of those I would say about 15% of them were merely interested in nerd guys. 15% just there for the money. 30% failed. The rest (40%) were pretty nerdy and saw cs as a possible fit.
/.. None working on open source things. None running their own servers at home, none running linux.
I saw not a single, literally not one girl that I would consider a hardcore nerd the whole time. There were no girls that were coding their own projects til 3am. No girls grouping up and thinking of great company ideas. No girls bitching about google's privacy policies. No girls commonly on
There seems to be a barrier at the level of obsession. Driven females seem rare compared to men as well (not super rare or anything but less likely). And to form a CS company you need to be obsessed, driven, nerdy and have peers to take with you. Peers are rare at this point because most of the girls have dropped like flies. And the only people left are nerd guys that women have spent years attempting to crush to death. So the number of them that can form perfectly healthy friendships with you isn't 100% either.
If you want to drakes equation this go ahead.
% women that go to CS
(40%) of women that are nerds in CS
(80%) of women that stay in the field
(5%) of those are obsessed
(15%) of those are driven
(25%) of the survivors have a good peer group or enough drive/obsession to make it to the top.
Yep... kinda sucks. But I must say that if there is discrimination hurting a woman's job chances in the field of CS then it is more the stereotyped thinking in the women themselves than that in the men's head. Many women believe it isn't feminine to be in CS or w/e other sexist reason, so they don't. Guys are generally happy to have more girls around. If they are as qualified as their competitors it would be rare for them to not have an equal shot at a job.
I think in the upper echelons of society even the average joes racism and sexism is MOSTLY gone. Though average joes still often fear/hate brown people (ask any brown dude if they've had experiences). In the shitholes of america though it is going strong. In ghettos, poor houses and uneducated hick towns you'd have to be a total idiot to not see rampant sexism and racism. And it is still very damaging.
Afghanistan is internationally supported unlike iraq. And it isn't a horrible clusterfuck unlike iraq. Also, most 'troops' in afghanistan are acting as cops not as a military force. You could even call them peacekeepers... many countries have peacekeepers there... the situation while both involving brown people far away is quite different.
It assumes lots of things. Leading me to assume the guy is not an engineer and just a whiney idiot.
Erm He renegotiated and resigned START. The nuclear disarmament treaty with more stringent rules set on reducing the number of nuclear arms available by more than half again. He's given speeches in multiple countries to multiple world leaders talking about the importance of disarmament.
The reason funding has been increased for nuclear weapons (i'm assuming what you heard). Is to actually clean up the nuclear weapons around the world. Like say the US has weapons on some obscure tiny island or left in some military base in an allies country. Or w/e these would be destroyed. That or they'll update the crappy 1960s buildings so that they are secure. Remember that when the nuclear holocaust was closest the passwords for the nukes were 0000. Changing things like that seems like a good idea.
Also, nuclear testing has been banned for decades, saying he is doing that is obvious bullshit. And if you feel like being bipartisan, this is in regard to the nuclear disarmament treaty:
"All 40 Republican senators and Sen. Joseph Lieberman , a Connecticut independent, implied in a letter to Obama last month that they'd block ratification of the new treaty with Russia unless he funds a "modern" warhead and new facilities at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico and the Y-12 Plant in Oak Ridge, Tenn."
Enjoy.
God you seriously can't blame obama for that one. I only say this because you are modded up.
Off topic but the actual mechanical turk today is actually a computer/animatronic that is faking looking like a real person hiding in a box. :D
MMO servers are COMPLETELY fucking different from most game servers. To say otherwise is just being ignorant.
Good point. That's why all the opt out and $ for authors and attempt to track people down and so on. To reduce legal ass-rapeage. I think most courts would force a settlement fairly low due to google's attempt to do right by the author. The author is showing a CLEAR desire to just punish Google when there was clearly a much simpler solution than court available. Sorta like... google is technically wrong but trying to be good, the author would be technically right but being a total douche and wasting the courts time. (Avoiding settling issues outside the courtroom really hurts your case) Laws in practice are more flexible than they seem in books :P I imagine google would be getting off easy.
Nah, it isn't Google's doing really. Big libraries try to keep track of these things. But the point was about how it benefits the author. GP asked: "How can putting my "hard work" online for anyone to view at their leisure benefit me financially?" Clearly they can get money for very very minimal effort, in many cases none.
Giant electromagnets to collect metal dust? Plants to collect a variety of crap? (If they can reproduce then they are collecting for you) I don't know. I think mars is likely easier because well, it is more familiar to humans. And we've got a hell of a lot more experience digging caves than we do building floating islands.
That said I still think Venus is our best shot for terraforming. Venus is a really shitty place for some reasons buuut trillions of tons of plants would help a large portion of that. While I am not sure if we could get it cool enough for humans to step outside (maybe possible to do it at some altitudes or caves; I don't know).
Mars seems less reperable since it has near 0 atmosphere. AND we can't fix it by some sort of massive boiling of the surface or bringing our own due to the low gravity. So it will never be able to support much life... And I think changing the gravity is a more difficult problem than temperature.
"We have lived for thousands of years without street level photos online of our homes and without navagable photos of the insides of public buildings and retail spaces, do we really need them? Many see them as an invasion of privacy."
And clean water and electricity and cars and computers and..... What a blatantly stupid argument!
"It took being bitten by the hand that fed them to finally come out againt their own willingness to censor in China, but still show a willingness to cowtow to political and well connected interests."
They did better than every single other competitor out there.
"As for books and other media, this should be a opt in system rather than an opt out. If spam was opt out many more would be protesting but its violation is the same."
This is IMPOSSIBLE to do with orphaned books, we don't know, no one know who the hell owns the rights, possibly no one. And spam IS opt-out.
And do feel free to adblock and not use gmail.
You do realize that authors make 0$ on orphaned works? If they did it wouldn't be called orphaned. It would be called a book.
The orphaned book thing is supported by pushed by and coming from libraries.
Copyright law is ALWAYS opt out. Think... Youtube for godssake. (Being that Youtube is not a mailman, they don't have common-carrier laws for it) There is copyrighted stuff put up and then taken down at request, ie opt out. It is your job to protect your own copyright. And Google provides an opt out where not only will they try and hunt you down to start with, if they are unable to find you but you find them. You can opt out and they'll send you like 60$+ for your trouble. Sucky and all but you won't get much sympathy from me or a judge.
Think if it were the otherway. Someone uses your photo on their website and you sue them plus damages for a few grand? Without emailing them first? Or trying to make a deal or agreement? Gooood fucking luck.
"Say someone (be it Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple, or some startup company) wants to become a competitor to Google books. He can't."
Says who?
They put orphan works up for a price. Google will then hunt you down and PAY YOU for the privilege, an initial sum and then money each sale.
Google's original plan was to pay everyone. Basically they'd go ...
"Hey, this book has been out of print for 45 years the author is dead and there are only a few hundred copies left on the planet. Lets scan it. Then let anyone who wants it dl it.... but it is copywritten, how about we charge people to dl it. With that we will pay the author money they certainly wouldn't be making otherwise. Hell, lets even throw in some extra money for when we put up each book as well.
And we'll email/phone/mail/fax every person we can find that owns copyrights telling them this. If they are alive and give a shit then they can ask us to take it down. Or they can take our money. Everyone wins, tons of books available for all."
Google books is likely to be a major loss leader, it is there to keep books from a near certain doom. Also in regards to copyright law, you are supposed to defend your copyright. If you don't defend it no one will do it for you. So if you are an author and your shit is up their without your permission. You can likely take Google to court. BUT! Because google has a very very easy opt out system in which they STILL pay you even then the initial 60$ or so. It will probably be hell to get a landslide victory. The courtcase protects Google a bit further, from people signed up to the writers guild or w/e.
No! Information is staying at the same price. The distribution costs, the publishing costs, the retail costs, the advertising costs are all going in the toilet. And good riddens, all that shit is (near) worthless anyways! Information is valuable.
The populace generally needs to know that the creators of works aren't losing anything through this digital revolution. In fact they are gaining big time! They can reach way way way bigger audiences first off. Next there is a much lower barrier to entry, so all the little guys can join in. This is also good for avoiding 'selling out' since you won't have an overlord. All wonderful things for us and the creators. Only people missing out are useless vampires sucking the life out of art. If everyone realized this support in crushing the publishers/ w/e dinosaurs would be enormous.
Interestingly there seem to be things on google books that are in the public domain that aren't free or all up. Since one publisher or another wrote the particular version they scanned.
The thread was talking from a site designer POV. Assuming you aren't virusing your site to infect people than the issue doesn't matter. Though I suppose that makes the thread pretty off topic.