You are not a conservative? Your posts reeked of conservatism but even then before posting my comment, I checked your posting history and you most certainly are a poster child for conservativism (meh, I had some time to burn and your pointless and rather offensive diatribe was kinda sorta pissin me off so why not)
That is more a problem with the rest of the world, not with the West...depending on how strong the conservative groups in a given country are, the situation would be that much worse...you are a conservative, luckily for most Americans, you are not as dominant as you'd like to be hence you are left to spew your vitriol on the internet instead of successfully taking your country back to the stone age
So the expectation to not be insulted for who you are and the expectation to not be threatened with violence is the same as demanding special treatment? What world do you live in?
I know plenty of white males most of whom are pretty nice guys, you otoh are an idiot which has nothing to do with your ethnicity, your gender or your orientation...as to your rhetoric about how the world is discriminating against straight white men when the topic of discussion is how women working in a particular industry are harassed, its pathetic, it reeks of attention whoring and from what I can tell, you have a very childish attitude of 'me, me, me'...I am sure you'll find some aspect of discrimination against straight white men somewhere in my comment but rest assured, that's just in your head...you could have been from an entirely different planet and your comment would have merited this very same response...
I'm not asking for anything that I don't ask from myself.
Wow, you actually expect to get threatening emails containing your address to prove to you that the person making the threat is fully capable of carrying out their threat? Errrmmm whatever floats your boat...just don't expect others to put up with that sort of shit without trying to do something about it, oh look, that's exactly what the writer of the post is doing, trying to do something about it to raise awareness but I am sure she is somehow discriminating against straight white blokes or being childish, how dastardly of her
Its not? Maybe when you are amongst a group of friends who each rib each other...on a public forum, it most definitely is equal to racism or sexism or homophobia...
I'm whining about the possibility that Google might be coercing manufacturers into adding this warranty condition.
That's not what you were whining about just a couple posts ago...and the reason the manufacturers void the warranty if the OS or bootloader is modified is to protect themselves from having to deal with bricked devices in a failed attempt to flash a custom ROM. Honestly? The number of times I've seen people moaning at XDA-devs for bricking their device is unbelievable after they've tried to flash a ROM meant for a different device onto their own device, eg on a certain ROM for Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-i9505, the one with a Snapdragon 600 processor and 4G-LTE connectivity (the name of the device the ROM was meant for was clearly stated, sadly I can't remember which ROM it was), this person was trying to warn everyone that the ROM had bricked his phone and the developer was a dick because he would not help him out, he was insisting that he had followed the instructions to the letter when trying to install the ROM on a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-i9500, the one with an Exynos processor without 4G-LTE. If the warranty hadn't been voided, this person would have definitely tried to return the device to Samsung and Samsung don't want him to return the device to them when the device was bricked through no fault on their part. What gives you the idea that Google have anything to do with the manufacturers voiding warranty if the OS is modified? Seems like you're clutching at straws just to somehow find a reason to keep whining at Google.
Where can I hold one of those phones in a showroom in northeast Indiana before I buy it
Eh? You just changed the requirements...you asked which Android phones sans Google services could be bought in the USA and I told you which phones were available (as an example, here's Xiaomi Mi3). Now you want a retail store, how about you do your own research?
You want to force businesses to cater to a niche, extremely minuscule market, why exactly should they do that? I am a liberal and even I find that wrong.
Also, you do realize that Android is just a Linux distribution and just like you can't call a fork of Debian, Debian, a fork of Android can't be called Android. Google releases AOSP which can be (and has been) forked (by Amazon and Nokia to name a few) and the only restriction imposed by Google is that the fork can not be called Android, how exactly is it Google's fault that phone manufacturers (besides Chinesee manufacturers) do not want to fork Android and release their own version stripped of Google services? Me and most of my mates have Cyanogenmod installed on our phones and all of us installed Google services because we want the convenience they bring with them. Heck, even most Chinese manufacturers release an international version with Google services. Could it possibly be because a majority of the customers of the manufacturers do not want to do without the convenience brought to them by Google services? So again, why exactly should these manufacturers be forced into releasing products that almost no one would want?
If the headphone jack goes out a week later, I don't want the manufacturer to be able to use my installation of CyanogenMod against me.
So your problem are the manufacturers? I agree, changing the OS on a computer (a smartphone is just that, a computer in a non-traditional format) should not void its warranty. Why exactly are you whining about Google again?
Xiaomi and Lenovo and Nokia off the top of my head or you can simply stop being a lazy ass whiner and get a phone supported by CyanogenMod, flash CyanogenMod and never deal with Google services again
Don't install free apps from the play store maybe? Most apps have a free, ad-supported version and a paid, ad-free version... if you chose to use the free, ad-supported version, you do not have a moral right to deny the developers their income by blocking adverts
I know all that, here's the comment I was responding to:
If you're going to mutilate the genitals of your young girls, tell your women they can't drive, stone people to death for drawing cartoons, marry off children, beat homosexuals in the street until they're bloody and starve your citizens until near death then hell yeah I'm going to tell you how to live in your nation.
Now I don't know about you but to me that sounds an awful lot like the conditions in Saudi Arabia (except for the starving your people part, the Saudi regime seems to give just enough to the commoners to keep them from revolting, not that a revolt would do much good) hence my comment that Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US which was supposed to demonstrate to the OP that the US government does not care about civil liberties for the masses or stone-age-practices supported by a regime claiming to rule by divine right as long as the said regime serves America's corporate interests...
Oi, stop feeding the trolls, you've made some pretty good points and since they have no logical retort, they've resorted to trolling you...learn to ignore them
Please note that I don't support any repressive regimes or groups that enforce FGM or promote sexist behaviours, I am just pointing out that the US is not a shining example of tolerance and social liberties...it would be best if the US focused on sorting out her own problems before pointing fingers at others. Also, thanks for liberating Afghanistan, freeing the Afghans of the nasty Soviet puppet government and delivering them into the hands of the Al-Quaeda and the Taliban is highly appreciated by the entire world!
End users should be able to take the manufacturers to court because they are entitled to the source-code running on the devices they've purchased. I know such an action would bankrupt most end users but that's more a commentary on the prejudicial court systems...
So none of the occupy activists were pepper-sprayed and none of them spent a couple nights in prison and Cecily Mcmillan was not sentenced to 3 months in jail for 'assaulting a police officer' after he 'accidentally' grabbed her breast from behind? Or shall we just ignore all of that and join you in singing the The Star-Spangled Banner?
Oh you mean like what happens in Saudi Arabia? Why are the Americans supporting the Saudi regime again? Any embargoes against Saudi Arabia that I somehow missed? No? Hypocrisy much?
Why the fuck is it America's prerogative to decide what mode of government a sovereign nation can have? America itself is not a shining example of democracy what with it being an oligarchy where the populace enjoys some benefits of what a real democracy should afford them, why aren't you more concerned with fixing your own problems?
Also, the last time the Americans replaced a Soviet propped regime (which in itself was exactly the same as the countless regimes propped by the Americans), the world ended up with the scourge that is the Al-Quaeda and the Taliban and a semi-modern Afghanistan started its slow and steady decline towards stone age.
More recently, replacing Saddam Hussain (not a fan of the guy in any way) has culminated in the creation of ISIS which is terrorizing the Syrians and has succeeded in spanking the American propped Iraqi military and where initially the Americans were yelling bloody murder over the 'humans rights violations by the Asad regime' on how they were treating the 'rebel political dissidents', that reaction has been replaced with confusion and horror so thanks a lot for bringing freedom to the Iraqis.
If the world doesn't trust America and her gift of freedom, most people learn from history and history does not paint America as a force of good like you so fervently believe, its a nation like any other and it is trying to protect the interests of the corporate overlords that fund the political campaigns, general public be damned!
The same people who say that Aaron Swartz made a series of bad choices culminating in the worst possible choice also seem to claim that Edward Snowden should have chosen death (and martyrdom) over seeking asylum in Russia (completely ignoring the fact that the revocation of his passport made any travel plans he had tricky at best, leaving him with little choice but to maybe adopt the lifestyle the character portrayed by Tom Hanks had in 'The Terminal' if he chose not to seek asylum in Russia). Talk about double standards...
God, you are stupid...go look for information on what America has to say to Pakistan about a gas pipeline from Iran to Pakistan and then try pushing your bullshit that America does not force nations and corporations to act in accordance with Washington-approved-policies!
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You are not a conservative? Your posts reeked of conservatism but even then before posting my comment, I checked your posting history and you most certainly are a poster child for conservativism (meh, I had some time to burn and your pointless and rather offensive diatribe was kinda sorta pissin me off so why not)
Wow and there you prove, beyond any doubt, just how sexist you actually are
You're a snake is what you are...there happy now?
I have no idea what sort of community you live in but that is not the norm in civilized societies, no wonder you seem so confused
In simpler words, you're a conservative troll
That is more a problem with the rest of the world, not with the West...depending on how strong the conservative groups in a given country are, the situation would be that much worse...you are a conservative, luckily for most Americans, you are not as dominant as you'd like to be hence you are left to spew your vitriol on the internet instead of successfully taking your country back to the stone age
I know plenty of white males most of whom are pretty nice guys, you otoh are an idiot which has nothing to do with your ethnicity, your gender or your orientation...as to your rhetoric about how the world is discriminating against straight white men when the topic of discussion is how women working in a particular industry are harassed, its pathetic, it reeks of attention whoring and from what I can tell, you have a very childish attitude of 'me, me, me'...I am sure you'll find some aspect of discrimination against straight white men somewhere in my comment but rest assured, that's just in your head...you could have been from an entirely different planet and your comment would have merited this very same response...
Wow, you actually expect to get threatening emails containing your address to prove to you that the person making the threat is fully capable of carrying out their threat? Errrmmm whatever floats your boat...just don't expect others to put up with that sort of shit without trying to do something about it, oh look, that's exactly what the writer of the post is doing, trying to do something about it to raise awareness but I am sure she is somehow discriminating against straight white blokes or being childish, how dastardly of her
Sadly I don't have any mod points
Its not? Maybe when you are amongst a group of friends who each rib each other...on a public forum, it most definitely is equal to racism or sexism or homophobia...
good for you BasilBrush, keep drinking the kool-aid, keeps the reality distortion field strong
That's not what you were whining about just a couple posts ago...and the reason the manufacturers void the warranty if the OS or bootloader is modified is to protect themselves from having to deal with bricked devices in a failed attempt to flash a custom ROM. Honestly? The number of times I've seen people moaning at XDA-devs for bricking their device is unbelievable after they've tried to flash a ROM meant for a different device onto their own device, eg on a certain ROM for Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-i9505, the one with a Snapdragon 600 processor and 4G-LTE connectivity (the name of the device the ROM was meant for was clearly stated, sadly I can't remember which ROM it was), this person was trying to warn everyone that the ROM had bricked his phone and the developer was a dick because he would not help him out, he was insisting that he had followed the instructions to the letter when trying to install the ROM on a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-i9500, the one with an Exynos processor without 4G-LTE. If the warranty hadn't been voided, this person would have definitely tried to return the device to Samsung and Samsung don't want him to return the device to them when the device was bricked through no fault on their part. What gives you the idea that Google have anything to do with the manufacturers voiding warranty if the OS is modified? Seems like you're clutching at straws just to somehow find a reason to keep whining at Google.
Eh? You just changed the requirements...you asked which Android phones sans Google services could be bought in the USA and I told you which phones were available (as an example, here's Xiaomi Mi3). Now you want a retail store, how about you do your own research?
You want to force businesses to cater to a niche, extremely minuscule market, why exactly should they do that? I am a liberal and even I find that wrong.
Also, you do realize that Android is just a Linux distribution and just like you can't call a fork of Debian, Debian, a fork of Android can't be called Android. Google releases AOSP which can be (and has been) forked (by Amazon and Nokia to name a few) and the only restriction imposed by Google is that the fork can not be called Android, how exactly is it Google's fault that phone manufacturers (besides Chinesee manufacturers) do not want to fork Android and release their own version stripped of Google services? Me and most of my mates have Cyanogenmod installed on our phones and all of us installed Google services because we want the convenience they bring with them. Heck, even most Chinese manufacturers release an international version with Google services. Could it possibly be because a majority of the customers of the manufacturers do not want to do without the convenience brought to them by Google services? So again, why exactly should these manufacturers be forced into releasing products that almost no one would want?
So your problem are the manufacturers? I agree, changing the OS on a computer (a smartphone is just that, a computer in a non-traditional format) should not void its warranty. Why exactly are you whining about Google again?
Good riddance
Xiaomi and Lenovo and Nokia off the top of my head or you can simply stop being a lazy ass whiner and get a phone supported by CyanogenMod, flash CyanogenMod and never deal with Google services again
Don't install free apps from the play store maybe? Most apps have a free, ad-supported version and a paid, ad-free version... if you chose to use the free, ad-supported version, you do not have a moral right to deny the developers their income by blocking adverts
Now I don't know about you but to me that sounds an awful lot like the conditions in Saudi Arabia (except for the starving your people part, the Saudi regime seems to give just enough to the commoners to keep them from revolting, not that a revolt would do much good) hence my comment that Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US which was supposed to demonstrate to the OP that the US government does not care about civil liberties for the masses or stone-age-practices supported by a regime claiming to rule by divine right as long as the said regime serves America's corporate interests...
and what the fuck do you have against women?
Oi, stop feeding the trolls, you've made some pretty good points and since they have no logical retort, they've resorted to trolling you...learn to ignore them
Isn't Saudi Arabia an ally of the US?
Also, have a look at some of the things happening in your own country:
Passengers Cheer as Trans Woman is Stripped and Beaten on Atlanta Train (with video) (May 31, 2014)
Abortion Clinic Escort Opens Up About 'Disgusting, Degrading And Racist' Attacks On Patients (February 21, 2014)
Sikh (mistaken for a Muslim) attacked by racist mob, thanks Good Samaritans who got between him and his hate-filled attackers (after getting his jaw was surgically re-wired) (September 23, 2013) Transgender Woman Dies After Beating in Front of NYPD Precinct (August 26, 2013)
Police: Man damaged Bloomington Planned Parenthood building, cited religious beliefs (April 11 2013)
Please note that I don't support any repressive regimes or groups that enforce FGM or promote sexist behaviours, I am just pointing out that the US is not a shining example of tolerance and social liberties...it would be best if the US focused on sorting out her own problems before pointing fingers at others. Also, thanks for liberating Afghanistan, freeing the Afghans of the nasty Soviet puppet government and delivering them into the hands of the Al-Quaeda and the Taliban is highly appreciated by the entire world!
End users should be able to take the manufacturers to court because they are entitled to the source-code running on the devices they've purchased. I know such an action would bankrupt most end users but that's more a commentary on the prejudicial court systems...
So none of the occupy activists were pepper-sprayed and none of them spent a couple nights in prison and Cecily Mcmillan was not sentenced to 3 months in jail for 'assaulting a police officer' after he 'accidentally' grabbed her breast from behind? Or shall we just ignore all of that and join you in singing the The Star-Spangled Banner?
Oh you mean like what happens in Saudi Arabia? Why are the Americans supporting the Saudi regime again? Any embargoes against Saudi Arabia that I somehow missed? No? Hypocrisy much?
Why the fuck is it America's prerogative to decide what mode of government a sovereign nation can have? America itself is not a shining example of democracy what with it being an oligarchy where the populace enjoys some benefits of what a real democracy should afford them, why aren't you more concerned with fixing your own problems?
Also, the last time the Americans replaced a Soviet propped regime (which in itself was exactly the same as the countless regimes propped by the Americans), the world ended up with the scourge that is the Al-Quaeda and the Taliban and a semi-modern Afghanistan started its slow and steady decline towards stone age.
More recently, replacing Saddam Hussain (not a fan of the guy in any way) has culminated in the creation of ISIS which is terrorizing the Syrians and has succeeded in spanking the American propped Iraqi military and where initially the Americans were yelling bloody murder over the 'humans rights violations by the Asad regime' on how they were treating the 'rebel political dissidents', that reaction has been replaced with confusion and horror so thanks a lot for bringing freedom to the Iraqis.
If the world doesn't trust America and her gift of freedom, most people learn from history and history does not paint America as a force of good like you so fervently believe, its a nation like any other and it is trying to protect the interests of the corporate overlords that fund the political campaigns, general public be damned!
The same people who say that Aaron Swartz made a series of bad choices culminating in the worst possible choice also seem to claim that Edward Snowden should have chosen death (and martyrdom) over seeking asylum in Russia (completely ignoring the fact that the revocation of his passport made any travel plans he had tricky at best, leaving him with little choice but to maybe adopt the lifestyle the character portrayed by Tom Hanks had in 'The Terminal' if he chose not to seek asylum in Russia). Talk about double standards...
God, you are stupid...go look for information on what America has to say to Pakistan about a gas pipeline from Iran to Pakistan and then try pushing your bullshit that America does not force nations and corporations to act in accordance with Washington-approved-policies!