Food and clean water would be more easy without so much overpopulation. Stable government would probably come about if they were better informed; if you lived in a place where corruption was considered normal, and you never really seen anywhere it wasn't (stories, but there are also stories of Atlantis and dragons), why would you ever even get the idea it was wrong?
I have heard a few times about Africa, and when you really think of the people there as PEOPLE, not some type of robot, it makes more sense. They're lives are so boring in many places, what do you expect them to do? Without proper education about the topic and without anything else to do, they turn to sex... and this leads to more overpopulation, STDs, etc...
Internet isn't going to fix all the problems, certainly not quickly, but it's far from "another distraction". Then again, maybe it is. Maybe what they need is a "distraction" that they can learn something with, too.
Yeah, so that's why "windows+malware+death+threat" turns up references to this incident....
Oh well, on Linux, when there's a bug, it get fixed. The whole "killing people who point out the problem" isn't very effective at bug fixing when that's as easy as it is. Maybe if Apple was open source...
Being able to see something is different than it existing. For example, look at the sky. Light from basically everything in the universe is there; you just can't see it. It takes massive telescopes just to see a small amount of what is there. The information will still exist, you will just not be able to see it any more.
Bullying is not insults. Bullying is harassment. Bullying is the systematic degradation of the victim. Bullying is fear and shame and terror. Bullying is the anonymous phone call at 3 AM.
You'd take that over physical assault? Daily? You ever been physically assaulted, daily? It's worth saying phone calls have nothing to do with the internet, ether...
To me, 'People-ready business' represents a new low in catch-phrase marketing. We all know 'can you hear me now', a stoned man saying 'dude we're getting a Dell', 'works out of the box' and the Vegemite song sucked. But new levels are being reached, requiring of extending the "int catchphrase_rating" to "long int catchphrase_rating". These levels are being reached by the one and only, Microsoft.
For a while now, Microsoft has been looking for a way to make money. Their business has been dying down not due to competition, but due to sheer lack of anything to sell. So comes Vista. With it's color-coded file explorer, OSX ripoff interface and Vista-only-for-no-real-reason DX10, they were sure they were saved.
This was not the case.
The hotcake Vista was predicted to be turned out more to be a segway, and (while ducking from flying chairs) the marketing department had to come up with a way to sell this new steaming turd. Enter 'people-ready business'.
I am not personally sure what this is intended to mean. Are they attempting to sell a business that is ready for people to use? Doesn't Mcdonalds fall into this category? Or is it an attempt to make people ready for a business? If so, what business? Microsoft?
Has Microsoft finally admitted to being the Borg? Is the next tag line, "lower your shields and prepare to be boarded"?
Uh, yeah. We've had patents, copyrights, contracts, and licenses as long as we've had courts in this country. "Intellectual Property" is a relatively new term, but so is "Family Law"--the specifics bundled under the umbrellas of specialties have existed for centuries.
So history starts at the founding of the USA? Theres over 5000 years of well-recorded history (and much more not so well) that no one even knew America existed; you are just trying to trivialize these times because they "aren't the same" and their existence goes against your pro-IP bias.
Uh, no. I can't tell whether you're being cute just to argue or whether you're actually as dense as you make it seem. You can't copy something I've patented because I have a legal document guaranteeing that I'm the only one allowed to make commercial use of it. That document defines my intellectual property, not the invention/formula/code itself. Without the patent, my work is of no particular value because it has no protections. It is the patent that you must defend in court, not the drug you've created or the whatever you've patented.
Now you are just trying to spin and confuse. That is totally offtopic and not being debated. Your patent says who cannot use your invention/formula/code, I have no idea how you got the idea I said you need to defend the actual "object"; that wouldn't make any sense. You defend it's legal status; your patent, trademark, copyright, etc...
Hogwash. You've clearly demonstrated that you don't even know what IP is, which simply supports the conclusion.
So you say, but you are yet to prove me wrong on any statement. You are just spouting "YOU ARE WRONG!" and giving a totally unrelated explanation. That hardly proves some massive lack of understanding on my part.
"IP" has become a buzzword for something to be attacked and destroyed, but it is a fundamental component of the legal system and of society.
So was slavery.
There is a great need to differentiate between IP as it exists in the legal framework and "IP" as it exists to represent "bad laws about music and movies I don't like."
Please, do not talk down to people. It just makes you look like you have no actual ammunition against their augment. I have as good an understanding of the topic as you likely, you just seem to not think that. Prove me wrong on any actual quote, or you are just BSing.
People outside the "IP industry" look at it all backwards
That excuse is overly used and is a case of the fallacy of division. Just like the Vietnam war supporters claiming those not in the military didn't understand, thus effectively eliminating all opposition's credibility, in their mind. If you are inside the "IP industry", you likely agree with IP.
It's because you talk like crazy people lamenting a loss of rights you never had, bitching about intellectual property as "control of information."
Oh, so IP always existed? That's news to me. I thought it was a relatively new western invention...
Here's a hint: IP is *not* the idea. It's not the formula of the drug and it's not the code of a software product. It's not the waveforms of audio. The intellectual property IS the copyright, the patent, the trade mark, the contractual components, and/or the license that you own and may legally enforce.
So I can't illegally copy your patent form?... WTF? Your statement makes no sense. You trademark* "Smithco Foods" therefore I cannot legally use that name (simplified, of course. Theres more to it than that, but the idea is the same). That's that. Changing how you phrase it doesn't change what it is.
*I don't per say disagree with trademarks. Their goal is totally different than other IP; it's to make sure the customer is getting the product they think they are. I also think it's limited enough that it can't be highly abused as it is...
How should the RIAA protect its intellectual property rights? Is it just a fundamental belief on here that copyright holders should have no recourse against violaters?
I don't think control of information is a right.
In a world where the ability to eat, get basic health care and work (since the before 2 are not rights, this logically should be....) aren't rights, I fail to see why an artificial monopoly on distribution of ideas should be one.
It's clear to anyone with half a brain copyright doesn't exist to "support art and sciences." Why does it exist? It generates profit. Artificial profit, that is. There are not really good being transfered, just money shuffled around and "rights" to use information granted.
The reason this exists? Taxes and control. Moving money = taxes = guns = power = moving money. It's the system modern society is built around. The more null-goods a state can provide, the more power it gets. If governments realize this or not is not clear, but I would be willing to bet some people in the US government get it.
Call me a tin-foil-hat, but this isn't much more a conspiracy theory than "the government is full of *IAA bribed politicians!" and I'd bet a lot more accurate...
It's the greatest thing in history. You just solved world hunger and made it so no one NEEDS to work.
Really, are you that short sighted to think that a replicator would be a BAD thing? Luddites....
"it's theft of services or whatever is the new legal mumbo jumbo for saying stealing money from someone who worked to earn it."
1. You cannot steal a service.
B) Stealing means removal of something from someone else's possession so that you can possess it. By definition, copying is not stealing. It is illegal, but in a different way.
2. Just because you worked for something does not entitle you to make money from it. Even copyright does not change this. If I spent 8 years building a model spaceship out of paperclips I am not automatically entitled to profit.
3. The "legal mumbo jumbo" takes the above into account.
"Copyright" is just another law, a law that restricts expression of information. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, that doesn't change. Violating copyright is just that. Anyone who says "copying is stealing" automatically loses any credibility in my mind, because it shows they have ether no respect for legal definitions and place their own bias above them, or truly do not understand them. What are you?
The RIAA trying to poison the anti-copyright (GPL, BSD, etc) stew... though unless they start toting it as proof of the failure of freedom and that copyright is needed I'll take it as a coincidence.
The product is only a product because of obligatory legal protections. A product, generally, cannot be reproduced at anyone's whim in a few seconds. If it could be it wouldn't really be a product.
As far as software goes, even if you don't buy the "IP is property" assertion, you can still have a job. How? Commission. Make programs people pay you specifically to make, don't make a program and then except payment. You may make less, but that's life. Factory workers complaining about automation comes to mind. In the end, your job is your problem. We tried IP, it didn't work. Now we need to get past it and accept that it failed.
It maybe a change, maybe an unwanted change, but the less people accept that IP is dying the more power people like the RIAA and MPAA get.
I was not so much approving of Google as much as I was showing that anything can be dismissed similarly. I do think that google is only picked on because they are a large company, though, not because they are doing anything different than anyone else. My website used to store all that data, too. I stopped because it served no purpose and thus wasn't worth possibly having it fall into someone other than myself's hands. Millions of other sites are identical. The only difference here is that Google's user database is probably going to load faster than most...
The whole "Google is big brother" thing is overdone. 99% of logging is just statistical. Remember that google is mainly an ad firm and they rely on statistics to do their job. Sure, there are a lot of logging, but it isn't some conspiracy that people make it out to be.
No. Premarital sex is between two consenting adults. Piracy is one party not honoring it's half of a reciprocal agreement, and simply NOT walking away.
One? Copyright is a social deal - or was - to create art that would eventually become free, allowing culture to expand. Piracy is 2 sides violating their agreements, normal operation for the MPAA/RIAA is one side doing so.
Troll? I guess the puritans got mod points today...
Food and clean water would be more easy without so much overpopulation. Stable government would probably come about if they were better informed; if you lived in a place where corruption was considered normal, and you never really seen anywhere it wasn't (stories, but there are also stories of Atlantis and dragons), why would you ever even get the idea it was wrong?
I have heard a few times about Africa, and when you really think of the people there as PEOPLE, not some type of robot, it makes more sense. They're lives are so boring in many places, what do you expect them to do? Without proper education about the topic and without anything else to do, they turn to sex... and this leads to more overpopulation, STDs, etc...
Internet isn't going to fix all the problems, certainly not quickly, but it's far from "another distraction". Then again, maybe it is. Maybe what they need is a "distraction" that they can learn something with, too.
You know what they say... teach a man to fish...
No, he is wrong. Theres always the US Senate.
Yeah, so that's why "windows+malware+death+threat" turns up references to this incident....
Oh well, on Linux, when there's a bug, it get fixed. The whole "killing people who point out the problem" isn't very effective at bug fixing when that's as easy as it is. Maybe if Apple was open source...
I need support for floats.
Being able to see something is different than it existing. For example, look at the sky. Light from basically everything in the universe is there; you just can't see it. It takes massive telescopes just to see a small amount of what is there. The information will still exist, you will just not be able to see it any more.
So you are seriously telling me you'd rather be physically assaulted than anonymously insulted? You need a reality check.
To me, 'People-ready business' represents a new low in catch-phrase marketing. We all know 'can you hear me now', a stoned man saying 'dude we're getting a Dell', 'works out of the box' and the Vegemite song sucked. But new levels are being reached, requiring of extending the "int catchphrase_rating" to "long int catchphrase_rating". These levels are being reached by the one and only, Microsoft.
/Waits patently for check
For a while now, Microsoft has been looking for a way to make money. Their business has been dying down not due to competition, but due to sheer lack of anything to sell. So comes Vista. With it's color-coded file explorer, OSX ripoff interface and Vista-only-for-no-real-reason DX10, they were sure they were saved.
This was not the case.
The hotcake Vista was predicted to be turned out more to be a segway, and (while ducking from flying chairs) the marketing department had to come up with a way to sell this new steaming turd. Enter 'people-ready business'.
I am not personally sure what this is intended to mean. Are they attempting to sell a business that is ready for people to use? Doesn't Mcdonalds fall into this category? Or is it an attempt to make people ready for a business? If so, what business? Microsoft?
Has Microsoft finally admitted to being the Borg? Is the next tag line, "lower your shields and prepare to be boarded"?
Who knows. This blogger is unsure.
*I don't per say disagree with trademarks. Their goal is totally different than other IP; it's to make sure the customer is getting the product they think they are. I also think it's limited enough that it can't be highly abused as it is...
In a world where the ability to eat, get basic health care and work (since the before 2 are not rights, this logically should be....) aren't rights, I fail to see why an artificial monopoly on distribution of ideas should be one.
It's clear to anyone with half a brain copyright doesn't exist to "support art and sciences." Why does it exist? It generates profit. Artificial profit, that is. There are not really good being transfered, just money shuffled around and "rights" to use information granted.
The reason this exists? Taxes and control. Moving money = taxes = guns = power = moving money. It's the system modern society is built around. The more null-goods a state can provide, the more power it gets. If governments realize this or not is not clear, but I would be willing to bet some people in the US government get it.
Call me a tin-foil-hat, but this isn't much more a conspiracy theory than "the government is full of *IAA bribed politicians!" and I'd bet a lot more accurate...
IANAL, but could things like CC and GPL, even EULAs, be considered contacts in this case?
If most crows are black, it's likely and reasonable that you will assume a crow is black is until you see otherwise.
It's the greatest thing in history. You just solved world hunger and made it so no one NEEDS to work. Really, are you that short sighted to think that a replicator would be a BAD thing? Luddites....
What was the cataclysm that ended slavery?
"it's theft of services or whatever is the new legal mumbo jumbo for saying stealing money from someone who worked to earn it."
1. You cannot steal a service.
B) Stealing means removal of something from someone else's possession so that you can possess it. By definition, copying is not stealing. It is illegal, but in a different way.
2. Just because you worked for something does not entitle you to make money from it. Even copyright does not change this. If I spent 8 years building a model spaceship out of paperclips I am not automatically entitled to profit.
3. The "legal mumbo jumbo" takes the above into account.
"Copyright" is just another law, a law that restricts expression of information. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, that doesn't change. Violating copyright is just that. Anyone who says "copying is stealing" automatically loses any credibility in my mind, because it shows they have ether no respect for legal definitions and place their own bias above them, or truly do not understand them. What are you?
Or Mac OS.
The RIAA trying to poison the anti-copyright (GPL, BSD, etc) stew... though unless they start toting it as proof of the failure of freedom and that copyright is needed I'll take it as a coincidence.
The product is only a product because of obligatory legal protections. A product, generally, cannot be reproduced at anyone's whim in a few seconds. If it could be it wouldn't really be a product.
As far as software goes, even if you don't buy the "IP is property" assertion, you can still have a job. How? Commission. Make programs people pay you specifically to make, don't make a program and then except payment. You may make less, but that's life. Factory workers complaining about automation comes to mind. In the end, your job is your problem. We tried IP, it didn't work. Now we need to get past it and accept that it failed.
It maybe a change, maybe an unwanted change, but the less people accept that IP is dying the more power people like the RIAA and MPAA get.
...And you just posted this on slashdot.
Congratulations, you win the 2007 irony award.
I was not so much approving of Google as much as I was showing that anything can be dismissed similarly. I do think that google is only picked on because they are a large company, though, not because they are doing anything different than anyone else. My website used to store all that data, too. I stopped because it served no purpose and thus wasn't worth possibly having it fall into someone other than myself's hands. Millions of other sites are identical. The only difference here is that Google's user database is probably going to load faster than most...
The whole "Google is big brother" thing is overdone. 99% of logging is just statistical. Remember that google is mainly an ad firm and they rely on statistics to do their job. Sure, there are a lot of logging, but it isn't some conspiracy that people make it out to be.
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