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Pirate Bay Launches Uncensored Image Hosting
Spamicles writes "The guys over at the Pirate Bay have launched a new, censorship-free image hosting website called BayImg. Users of the new service don't have to sign-up in order to upload images. However, they can assign a 'removal code' to uploaded images, in case they want to delete the files after a while, and tags to categorize images. BayImg currently supports 100+ file formats, and supports uploading Zip and Rar archives. The maximum file size of uploads is 100MB. The article also discusses TPB's plans for launching a video streaming service that will potentially compete with YouTube."
To be immortalized thusly..
"As the intrepid kobold companion continues his journey, he begins to wonder... if priests raises dead, why anybody die?
People are going to like them a whole lot less if this turns into a big child porn site.
When people say that, if the censorship, corporate greed and general obstruction of the free flow of information continues, they will build their own new net, they MEAN IT.
I can't see this thing both:
1) Holding true to the principles of no censorship whatsoever.
2) Not being immediately shut down when some troll posts necro-pedo-beastility images as part of some SA vs. Fark vs. 4chan contest to find the most simultaneously illegal and offense image to post.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
"... censorship-free image hosting website ..."
Until Child Porn shows up on it.
Even Sweden's got laws about child porn.
At the bottom of the page it says "NO COPYRIGHT. NO LICENSE.". Does that mean I can use these pictures for whatever I want? Like if I wanted to download one and post it on my web page or something, is that legal?
But knowing that the TPB has opened with it being a haven for child pornography in mind, I can't say I'm pleased. I realize they believe in freedom of expression, but some things just don't need a venue, and child pornography is one of them.
For reference for those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about.
Thank god, I've been waiting for a viable, uncensored option to combat Youtube
Image files with 100MB? Seriously? That seems quite large, even for packing some images in one archive.
So i can post a rar of all the wonderful H dojins and share them 3
Is the PirateBay still trying to create their own nation?
more free porn
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Just to upload this video.
.. You are a Pirate!!!!
Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free
As others have pointed out, the first things that come to my mind are the fact that this will allow--at least, on the premise--people to upload and distribute pornography that is already illegal most everywhere (i.e. kiddie porn). It may also become a haven for other distasteful images that, paradoxically, no one really wants to see but that aren't necesarily illegal. Which still begs the question, is there actually a legimiate usage for such a site?
Publish the date, time and ip address of every upload. No censorship.
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"Do Be Evil" vs "Don't Be Evil"
This is good, but if they really want to make it safe for users they should:
Otherwise this is, as numerous people have pointed out, going to get shut down shortly after people start screaming "kiddie porn!".
Liberty in your lifetime
before it gets overwhelmed by porn ads.... just took a look at it. it already happened.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
I am glad some people stand up for noncensorship. It seems like everyday I read that some censorship is happening in every single country (and yes even America...we aren't the home of the free). It really comes down to an information war between the elite people who run countries and the public who want to know more and have more. Because these elite people are in cushy positions they don't have to do much or learn much. So as soon as you have people becoming more intelligent their job is at stake. They have lots of money. With money comes power. The question is how power is being used. Is it being used to control the masses (me thinks yes) but if more people do what what Pirate Bay is doing. Information gets out and that is always good.
Anyways, more power to these guys.
it's not if, but when someone uploads some child porn
and when they do so, you can expect Pirate Bay to go from bastion of freedom from corporate control to bastion of sexual predators in the eyes of the public and politicians and law enforcement
and when that happens, you can say bye bye to the Pirate Bay
i don't think this was a great move on the part of Pirate Bay, unless they actively work to remove child porn
for all of Slashdot's idealism on the subject of freedom and the Internet, i sure hope everyone here has enough grasp on reality to realize that if the Pirate Bay becomes a child porn distributor, in any way other than trivial, then it is doomed
and if you don't understand why, then you've lost touch with reality
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I can't think of a country that doesn't have some law SOME where that will be broken in the commission of running a completely censorship-free site. Even if it wasn't hosted in Sweden, Swedish law was going to apply to them since the company is based out of Sweden.
I think this will be an interested exercise in which happens faster.
1) The Pirate Bay compromises their morals.
2) Law enforcement shuts down The Pirate Bay on charges that will stick.
Honestly, I really expect Swedish law enforcement -- which has tried raiding them once before -- to just be salivating at the chance to shut this down and arrest the owners as soon as some child porn gets posted. I wouldn't be surprised if they had someone outside of legal liability for entrapment post it for them. I'm sure the FBI would be willing to spare some for the cause.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
Don't give the law a legitimate reason to show up on your doorstep, TPB! Drop this immediately. SERIOUSLY bad idea.
If you do this, it'll all be over in a day or two. Cop finds TPB image site, uploads kiddie porn from free and basically untraceable wifi spot near coffee shop, calls other branch of law enforcement about an "anonymous" complaint. Cops show up that day.
It'll be the end of you guys if you pursue this.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
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Without some ranking system. At least as good as diggit, it will just become a trash land. It has no search mechanism, no ranking of content. No categorizing of content other than by unsearchable tags. As it stands, it is a little more than the beginning of another attempt at usenet.... except even less organized.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Every 2nd comment says that. But have you actually looked at the site? As of now, "humour" is way bigger than "sex" or any sex-related word in the tag cloud.
We may yet be surprised.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
for image spam. Great.
Piratebay keep acting like they are untouchable and the guardians of censorship, but it just seems they are trying to push the boundaries until thy get caught.
I like muppets.
I wonder who one would have to bribe to get their own web2.0 project advertised on slashdot...
Publish the date, time and ip address of every upload. No censorship.
Post it via TOR or some anonymizer. Unless they ban all IP associated with such tools (which even sites under dedicated troll assault like 4chan can't do), that's no guarantee for the hardcore.
Still, it's an idea that I find amusing for deterring the casual bad actor.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
The picture is uploaded by a user of this site. The site has no responsibility for it. If this image is illegal, please send an e-mail to abuse (and put ILLEGAL + URL in the subject). We will not remove any pictures that are just immoral or in any way legal to host under Swedish law.
Since they allow archives on the site, are people going to use this to upload and share warez? Or does the system scan uploaded archives and rejects non-images based on content?
BTW, I visited the site about 10 hours ago, and the tag cloud was full of injected JavaScript - it was pretty much benign (only a couple of alert functions), but funny nevertheless, and seems like the whole thing was put together very quickly. They've fixed the problem now.
They're currently Slashdotted, so I can't see their site's comments about itself.
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I think the wording is the give-away. As long as the image is legal. A copyrighted picture is a perfectly legal image. It might not be legal to host it without the copyright holder's consent, but the image itself is perfectly legal. Very few images are illegal all by themselves. Child porn is about the only thing I can think about right now.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
There are imageboard sites out there with essentially a full-time troll culture -- often dedicated to invading other sites -- that will do their dead-level best to make this impractical. I don't think The Pirate Bay has really considered just how much effort monitoring a self-touting, "censorship free" site that allows porn is going to be.
They're pretty much doomed. It'll be an interested self-implosion to watch.
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
Who cares?
The TPB is run by the swedish security police anyhow.
Why the hell would they bust people when they can monitor them instead?
Look at how the operate. Get real.
You want to be secure? Use services that's not in your country.
We small people can still hope that the one-world court will not be established - then we'll be REALLY screwed.
Cheerios.
but after a few clicks i think I LIKE CENSORSHIP ... ewww : ((
It seems to me that once again the question comes down to whether or not the freedoms of the many are going to be ripped away because of the misbehavior of a few trolls. There have always been people who abuse the system and cause grief wherever they go just because it is fun for them to aggravate people/authority/whatever. Does that mean that all of the rest of us have to live in chains? I think not. Humanity needs to learn that in order to have freedom, sometimes we have to allow people to do bad things and clean up the mess afterwards. There is no freedom to do good without also having the freedom to do evil. If we can't accept that, then we'd might as well give up all of this lip service to freedom and lock the handcuffs right now.
To the making of books there is no end, so let's get started
100mb "images" including RAR/ZIP files? This site is designed to push back against the YouTube, Gmail, Megaupload sites and give people a public data cache they can rely on for more than video. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first shot in a canny business strategy to make the next web 2.0 supersite, with Pirate Bay's essential idea being that of the remote public file cache as a precursor to the remote, public/private desktop.
technical writing / development
In most places, though, active moderation by the administrator is the first step in accepting responsibility for all the content on the site. If they wanted to skirt that issue (and get a lot of maintenance help), they would allow users to tag something as "illegal" and let the images fall where the community feels they should.
Well, they gotta feed their families too. It's just a bunch of services they're trying to build around the popularity of ThePirateBay. A quickl look at the facts, and the site itself, show you that beside the name, there's little other shared in terms of operation here.
"Only legal images" -> uhmm. How about you apply this to ThePirateBay. Oh yea, I know, I know: in Sweden, torrents of *whatever* are legal. But they're not idiots, and we're not idiots either, it's obvious what I'm talking about.
Or are laws stronger than their ideals in this one case? Goes to show where their ideals lie.
Could someone please indulge me as to why there is such a dire focus on child pornography? It's a horrible crime, certainly, but I've never see the same status associated with other, and in my mind, just as horrible acts such as snuff films, brutal rape, torture, etc. Is this simply another act of 'think of the children' knee-jerking, or is there some reason why this is seen to be counted as worse than torture and murder by a large part of our population?
And the masses cried out, "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0!"
Admitting it is the first step... now go get yourself some psychiatric help.
till this site is banned from China. I give it 1 week, if not already.
Why the quotation marks (indicating that the work wasn't infringing)? I love PA (and that particular comic) as much as the next guy, but even they had to admit (after receiving genuine legal advice from the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund or some similarly-named organization) that this WAS an infringing image. You can satirize a subject, and that's fair use; I can freely create a spoof of, say, Pirate Master (Arr, the Pirate Bay Image Master! Which image be cut adrift this week?) and that's OK under fair use. But I can't create a spoof of South Park, in which they satirize Pirate Master, because South Park isn't the subject of the satire. In the same way, PA was not allowed to use American Greetings' characters to satirize American McGee's work. They could have fictionalized or parodied and existing game (as they clearly seemed to be taking aim at Alice, for instance) -- but not by leveraging someone else's characters/art/etc, only spoofing American McGee.
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In England 17 is legal. The legal age varies a lot. In some countries it is higher- in some countries it is lower.
The legal age for getting laid is not the legal age for being photographed nude, which is what's (mostly) in question here. The latter is pretty consistently 18, anywhere that it's set. Which is almost everywhere.
The model's apparent age varies a lot too. How can you trust what looks like a 14 year old isn't really an under developed or made up 18 year old?
I suspect they'll probably axe some of these by mistake; EG, from models like Melissa Ashley (warning: NSFW!). Similarly, they may not remove all the pictures of random high school teen bimbos flashing their anatomy for admirers, since at the other extreme some 14-year olds may really "look like she's 19, officer!!!", and the claim of being underage will not be credible without further evidence.
But yeah... I think they're going to need a better method for getting notices about illegal images than getting emailed (too many unneeded bytes over the wire per notice), and I suspect they're going to need to add what they mean by "illegal" to the FAQ.
Meanwhile, however, I've around fifty gigabytes of random (legally downloaded) pr0n pictures I could upload to help with their server's stress test once I leave work....
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
It isn't skulking about unnoticed and it doesn't deserve another forum:
700 Pedophile Suspects Identified as Global Ring Is Broken Up [June 18]
A team of international investigators infiltrated an Internet chat room used by pedophiles who streamed live videos of children being raped, rescuing 31 children and identifying more than 700 suspects worldwide.
The chat room, which was called "Kids the Light of Our Lives," featured images, including live videos, of children -- some only months old -- being subjected to horrific sexual abuse, said Jim Gamble, chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Center in Britain.
"You could go and if you were in the club, arrange a time and a place when online you could view a child being raped and brutalized in real time."
the free speech issue (the sites they host)
and the copyright issue (torrents and image hosting).2. The Pirate Bay is in Sweden
3. TPB's actions are legal in Sweden
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
Personally, I am siding with my morals here, TPB is legal, but wrong.
That's funny, I'm siding with my morals here too. Free copying is illegal, but moral. Scarcity is a great evil, if it can be abolished it must.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Piratebay keep acting like they are untouchable and the guardians of censorship, but it just seems they are trying to push the boundaries until thy get caught.
Should have been obvious. They're now a political party; "acting untouchable" and "trying to push the boundaries until they get caught" seems to follow that naturally these days.
//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
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The fundamental question is: How does Playboy, in that instance, get paid for creating the content in the first place?
Given that they're not getting paid to produce those pictures, Playboy, by definition, must shut down at least their "picture producing" division. Now where's your content coming from?
I'm not arguing free speech. I'm not arguing copyright. I'm arguing finance. If content producers (be they game makers, pron producers, or musicians) are not financially compensated for their efforts, they will eventually stop producing content.
We can discuss whether that's good or bad, but I haven't seen anything on YouTube that makes me want to swear off film. Yet.
ceci n'est pas un sig.
You're a Fucking Idiot !! I MEAN IT !!
No offense, bub, but someone's gotta walk point guard on the battle against censorship. I says, batten the down hatches and hoist the sails of freedom, me hearties! Yo, ho ho, and...
But knowing that the TPB has opened with it being a haven for child pornography in mind, I can't say I'm pleased.
Well, as others have noted, they're certain to remove stuff that blatantly unlawful; they note on each picture's page how to email them a notice about illegal pictures (although the link could be better crafted). Or do you have other reason to believe this was their specific intent?
A more interesting question is whether they will be maintaining IP logs of where images come from, so as to turn over for criminal investigation. If they do, they'll doubtless be subpoenaed (and seized) by all sorts of places, which won't make the Bay very happy; if they don't they'll be accused of helping the kiddie porn distributers, and get lynched in the public arena. Bad choice.
Alternatively, they might be planning to be infested with kiddie porn, take it down promptly, and turn over the source IPs from the logs routinely to the police, in the hopes of using their own sleazy reputation to help stamp out the pedophile scum of the internet.//Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
This might very well replace RapidShare for me. I get about full speed (10mbit/s) on RapidShare because TeliaSonera (my ISP) provides two download servers for RapidShare, but the nasty download limit usually spoils the fun. Sounds promising.
If I can upload w/o registering, and use different IP addresses, how do they know when I reach my 100MB limit? Cookies?
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
1) Backup to file.
2) Encrypt file.
3) Inject data stream into lossless image format.
4) Upload image.
5) Retrieve anywhere.
http://www.bayimg.com/album/GaacoaAaA
Heh, I rather liked this one, with that tag :p
;)
Of course, there was other fun stuff (NSFW) there too
BTW, anyone know that that type of 3d picture is called?
It's The Golden Rule: "He who has the gold makes the rules."
It's not uncensored, but it certainly is convenient:
p
http://chiralsoftware.com/drag-and-drop-upload.js
It's in beta testing at the moment.
While I agree with the general idea of your post, one thing hit me - we live in a world where it is OK to post Neo-Nazi / Anti-Semitic / %insert_history's_mistakes_here% content, and it is not OK to post something that delivers "monetary compensation".
In the same context, do you think the neo-nazi or anti-semitic folk do it absolutely NOT for the money? I believe that in either case there is a lot of money at stake.
I don't know... but I think something is wrong here. If it's free speech all the way, then all the way free speech it is, and we shouldn't categorize content like that.
The saddest poem
Only because I have so few opportunities to quote Milton on /. and the parent comment brought him to mind:
I cannot praise a fugitive and cloistered virtue, unexercised and unbreathed, that never sallies out and sees her adversary but slinks out of the race, where that immortal garland is to be run for, not without dust and heat. Assuredly we bring not innocence into the world, we bring impurity much rather; that which purifies us is trial, and trial is by what is contrary. That virtue therefore which is but a youngling in the contemplation of evil, and knows not the utmost that vice promises to her followers, and rejects it, is but a blank virtue, not a pure; her whiteness is but an excremental whiteness.
John Milton, Areopagitica: A speech for the liberty of unlicensed printing to the parliament of England
Of course, he recommends Spenser, not child porn, for the contemplation of evil.
Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime... -- Machiavelli
Scarcity is a great evil, if it can be abolished it must.
OK, let me run a thought experiment by you.
Let us imagine, for the sake of argument, that I invent a cheap 3-dimensional copying device which produces perfect copies of anything placed in it. Even down to the material used to produce the copy, its strength and its colour. This device can be made and sold cheaply enough to market it to the general public, and it's not really possible to spot the difference between the copies are originals.
Note that it doesn't allow you to create an object from scratch (so it's a bit different to computer software in that respect, and thus the ability for individuals to innovate with it is substantially curtailed). Considering the economy as a whole (including the number of people currently employed in manufacturing), Is it a good or a bad thing?
I have to agree with you, don't understand how this is fighting anything at all.
Don't get me wrong, having a place where you can upload images without having to register is nice, but it's not like there's a lot of censorship going on in Sweden. Basically, avoid anything illegal and you're good to go, which is exactly what they are doing. Plus, this time around they are actually hosting the files, with TPB they are just linking to them which is why they haven't been shutdown (yea yea, I know they got shut down once but they haven't been convicted of anything.... yet).
Anything illegal = site gone, and I'm certain the government/police/xxAA would _love_ a reason to shut them down.
You mean replicators? That would be fantastic. No one would ever have to work again.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Hey, I just thought it was cool to have another option for hosting all the lolcat images I like to plaster my blog and myspace profile with. But apparently it's not like that and doesn't support remote hosting! WTF?
Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime... -- Machiavelli
Yes, the end of scarcity would alter the economy, perhaps even abolish it.
No, this would not be a bad thing.
-- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
I just noticed they host Google ads on the image pages. Pretty sure this is a violation of Adsense's terms of service:
http://bayimg.com/aAAegaabC (nsfw -- or home, for that matter)
If they're depending on the ad revenue to support this thing, either they'd better get in touch with adultfriendfinder.com or I don't expect this will be around all that long.
Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime... -- Machiavelli
As subject.
first line: "No its not censorship in every parlance."
Obviously its censorship in parlances other than that in which i participate, or we'd not be having the disagreement.Come read my stupid blagablog. Rants and Giggles
It's the greatest thing in history. You just solved world hunger and made it so no one NEEDS to work. Really, are you that short sighted to think that a replicator would be a BAD thing? Luddites....
Great Intellect...
Is that some sort of Richard Hell fanclub?
It's more than just images..
As I see it, its just the next step in piratbyråns http://www.piratbyran.org/ campaign against copyright, although not officially
linked.
Theyve been pretty successful as political activists, much helped by blundering swedish police and white house pressure.
The logical next step after piratebay, which only stores links to copyrighted material, is to actually host it.
Images is a nice way to dip the toe I guess.
Any media group who wants to try it in court face a group of highly motivated and well connected people.
Youtube sucks. They censor, and that to me is absolutely not acceptable. Fuck Google, and Go PiratesBay!
I'm at work, so I can't be sure, but I suspect what you're talking about is a Random Dot Sterogram. (magic eye type of pic = RDS) Won't know until I go home and check it out though lol.
You need more psychedelic art in your life. rhesusmonkey.deviantart.com
Also stealth filesharing:
1 - crack
2 - steg the file
3 - share the file url and keydata
It should have read "Pirate Bay Launches Worlds Largest Porn Archive"
Oh, fuck you. 7chan hates you, slashdot. GTFO internets.
(Fuck captcha.)
It would be the best thing ever. Nothing non-perishable would need to be made from scratch more than once, no more resources would need to be depleted, manufacturing and construction would be much, much, much more efficient (who needs an expensive cement mixer when you can just make 1 litre of it and continuously replicate it), and farming would be far, far, far more efficient (grow a hundred plants, put them into a hundred replicators, and you can have as much food as you want).
I don't know how many people here actually, you know, checked the site or anything, but even under the "humor" tag, it's ~75% hardcore pornography - which is great if you're an incorrigible porn addict, but for, say, anyone with a modicum of taste, this site is less than useless. Unless they implement some way for people to edit which results get shown first, or a method to automatically drop images into some "unscrupulous/desperate porn site owner spamming images" section, this thing is DOA.
http://www.bayimg.com/MaaCKaAbf/
Seriously..
- sigilicious -
Nobody would also want to make anything new ever again. The advancement of technologies would come to a halt. That is what he is trying to say. You are dodging the real issue here and you know it.
With something like this your essentially eliminate the market economy and thus production will cease to exist. People would have little incentive to want to make anything new or improved because they would make no money off of it. They would have lost their job and live in an economy with no money or spare capitol to mess around with.
Answering like you did is juvenile and you know it. I could say that people would replicate huge bombs and kill everyone too. That is not what he is trying to say. He communicated his point just fine to me, why are you so reluctant to see it? Because you know he is right.
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I'm at home, and yes it is. Easiest way is crossing your eyes till the two pics become three and focus on the phantom middle pic.
I take it then that the first thing man ever invented was money.
Just wait a minute here.
There seems to be a fairly resounding condemnation of kiddy porn here, but at the same time the parent and a few other posts appear to support freedom of speech for groups that promote hatred, violence and murder. I'm not supporting the sexual abuse of children, but is it really any worse than violence committed in front of or on children? Is kiddie pron any worse than dropping cluster bombs on civillian areas, where unexploded bomblets can go off, taking children's limbs with them? Is it fine to kill relatives of children in front of them? Is it okay to tell children they are sub human because of a fiction we call race? Or that they are condemned becuase of the religion they are born into?
This idea that sexual activity is somehow morally worse than violence is really fucked up. (pun intended)
Seriously, get some perspective, people. Child pron on the internet has as much moral right to exist as sites promoting Islamic Jihad or the Invasion of the Axis of Evil by the leader of the "free world".
I'm not condoning any of it, but if you truly support free speech, you have no argument against sites like this. They may at least make it a bit easier to track down who's committing the actual abuses.
I don't therefore I'm not.
"As long as your pictures are legal they will be hosted here"
To be perfectly legal you have to have permisson from copyright holders. If you have a quick look around the site it seems improbable that this is the case for most of the pictures.
Isn't the point of advancement to make our lives easier? If we just fill that time with more work it becomes a rat race, a tread mill. I don't want to live in that kind of world. The dream is 100% unemployment, 100% leisure time. If we can enjoy good food and drink and family and have a roof over our heads at no cost to anyone, why would we need a job? If people want to engage in productive behavior, and I'm certain most would as it's in our nature, that's wonderful. But eliminating scarcity would free us from the tyrrany of having to work merely to survive.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Also, if the model LOOKS under 18 and the image is distributed/created with the intention of it looking that way, that's probably illegal too.
In America, this is legal. In the UK, it's not.
The Child Pornography Protection Act was passed in 1996 in America which banned any image that "is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct." In Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, the Supreme Court struck down the law. The justices wrote: In particular, it prohibits the visual depiction of teenagers engaged in sexual activity, a "fact of modern society and has been a theme in art and literature throughout the ages."
Seth
$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
This is a minor thing, but give credit where it is due: "You might have heard that old quote by Evelyn Beatrice Hall; >>I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire was the originator of that quote.
I cannot believe that garbage gets modded up. My dream is nothing close to 100% unemployment, that is disgusting. The world we would live in with your dream realized is my biggest nightmare.
The point of advancement is to answer questions. The more questions we answer, the easier life gets for sure, but you continue the quest to answer questions. We should never be content with where we are as a people. We should strive to advance our species forever and always. Contentment breeds complacence. Complacence gets us nowhere.
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Sites like http://www.plus613.net/ and http://www.porn613.net/ have been doing relatively uncensored image galleries etc for years, and there's a million sites out there that let you store RAR/ZIP and other file formats, is this really news?
You're a stupid dildo. Production would SKYROCKET with replicators. It is the penultimate of production. Prices may plummit to near the cost of raw materials and energy cost of transformation (a replicator does not repeal the laws of thermodynamics or E=MC^2). BFD (this is already happening in many area, e.g. gasoline). This means if you only had $5 to your name, suddenly you are a lot wealthier (increased purchasing power due to massive deflation) and the return on your labor is potentially increased manyfold. It may mean the end of humanity for other reasons and, thusly, the "economy", but economic annihilation would not be a direct result. A challenge to meat far prior to this would be preventing counterfeit currency. Perhaps, it would all be digitally encoded money at that point.
Nobody would also want to make anything new ever again. The advancement of technologies would come to a halt. That is what he is trying to say. You are dodging the real issue here and you know it.
Why wouldn't anything new be made? Why would the ease of the duplication of all items duplication influence negatively on the desire to invent any one new item? Profiteering isn't the only reason to make something new, some people just like to invent stuff. Look at Linux.
With something like this your essentially eliminate the market economy and thus production will cease to exist. People would have little incentive to want to make anything new or improved because they would make no money off of it. They would have lost their job and live in an economy with no money or spare capitol to mess around with.
Why do they need spare capital anymore if everything is free to duplicate? Removing the profiteering perspective would actually encourage quality and pride in invention over marketability. Again, look at Linux.
Answering like you did is juvenile and you know it. I could say that people would replicate huge bombs and kill everyone too. That is not what he is trying to say. He communicated his point just fine to me, why are you so reluctant to see it? Because you know he is right.
I can't see how the GP is being childish; he's just not coming to the conclusion that you want him to come to.
I wash mah-self with a rag on a stick.
Up until I saw how slow this thing is I really thought they could pull off video hosting like tv-links. They're really hurting for bandwidth (or so it seems)... I now dominate the "pimping" tag, what a shame.
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Censoring child porn is still censorship. It's just that the line is moved. It's all about the line of acceptability, as people who want to censor more know full well. Those who want to ban all pornography try to conflate child porn with adult porn, because they see no moral distinction. Our efforts to redefine "censorship" to pretend that censoring what we find objectionable isn't censorship undermines our own logic system.
It looks like the site is down right now. It worked for me before, but now I'm getting the 'unable to connect'. Hopefully, this is only a server overload issue.
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Or does it need flash?
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My later comment about Page 3 being topless was to make the point that it didn't count as "hardcore" porn; it wasn't a NSFW warning on the article.
I don't know if the parent AC was trolling about it being "porn"- I think that's overreacting a bit. However, although mild, I'll admit that having thought about it, the photo was clearly NSFW by the standards of some more prudish employers, and apologise to anyone who was caught out.
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They are part of a movement that wants to create awareness about how certain restrictive laws are counterproductive towards the arts, innovation and/or the economy. This movement is represented in many countries by a pirate party as a political entity. Since they remain within the laws and play by the rules of the respective countries we can safely say they are no anarchists. They simply strife to change current laws, not abandon them all together. Steps like the one described in TFA are just a way to spread this new (?) way of thinking.
However, they can assign a 'removal code' to uploaded images, in case they want to delete the files after a while
Riiiight. And then it will be like it never existed on the net.
Actually has anyone thought of bringing the FBI to court...them having all this p0rn backed up makes it impossible for anyone to get rid of it, and then you have the temptation for someone on the inside to make moeny and pass it off as new stuff......
I wonder if we use the same insight as the RCAA, or thos ebodies in charge of telling us not to play Manhunt because it promotes violence, and therefor the game should never be made, and the ones made be destroyed.......if we destroyed all these p0rn pics, would they not be gone forever, or just new ones take their place?
The real (legal) test will come when someone puts up a PNG containing key Scientology documents or Windows Vista source code.
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You've pretty much stated, "We seek to get closer to infinity, the closer we get, 'the easier life gets for sure', but you continue to approach infinity." He has stated his perfect world being infinity.
You were both valid in your view's, just one is more optimistic than the other.
In the UK, it's not
Note that, according to your link, that seems to cover things which aren't real photos (e.g., manipulated images). I don't see that a real photo of someone who looks too young would fall under this.
Come on... A quick look through the Tags shows all sorts of unsavory things and a quick browse around reveals pictures that just shouldn't be there. I don't care if they 'take it down once reported' - if an image of Child pornography is accessible on this site for any length of time than the owners only belong in prison. Well done Piratebay - you've finally given the world an excuse.. Bye Bye.
Contentment breeds complacence. Complacence gets us nowhere.
If you're content, why do you need to get anywhere? Besides, I don't believe that having our physical needs taken care of would stop us from being a productive society. The need for exploration and understanding is too strong in our species. In fact I think it would make us more productive. We would be free to engage in studies as we see fit, and not limited by the need to survive. If no one had to work to put food on the table, everyone would have time to engage in art and research. These are the real fruits of civilization. Working to survive is just toil.
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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
In my experience, man seems always to be searching for meaning. I don't think human kind is capable of living in an utopia of endless bounty - we would all end up in an asylum (at least I would).
Personally, I'm not particularly interested in making my life easier. What drives me is the overwhelming desire to be owned by no man. I want freedom of choice, freedom of experience and freedom of thought. My life is the pursuit of these three ideals, literally and philosphically.
Why do you have to be working like a madman to answer questions?
Wouldn't some extremely intelligent people be better off being able to focus on problems and solutions without having to worry about food and shelter?
It's like the renaissance, look what people like da vinci were able to do when the pressures of normal life were removed.
He tried to kill me with a forklift!
The point of advancement is to answer questions. The more questions we answer, the easier life gets for sure, but you continue the quest to answer questions. We should never be content with where we are as a people. We should strive to advance our species forever and always. Contentment breeds complacence. Complacence gets us nowhere.
When he says 100% unemployment, he means that noone HAS to work just to live. Does that really horrify you so?
Please realize that not everybody is as lazy as you apparently are, to be motivated only by working to avoid being left starving and homeless. On /. of all places, it should be obvious that the existance of open-source software demonstrates that creative people will continue the progress of innovation, even if not employed to do so.
Your replies are the only childish ones I see here.
This device can be made and sold cheaply enough to market it to the general public, and it's not really possible to spot the difference between the copies are originals.
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You would just have to make 2 devices. One to copy and the other to be copied
shit, porn that will actually make you go blind... ow
I don't know about you, but I use my leisure time to research, to solve problems, to work on things interesting to me. The entire Open Source movement is about using leisure time to make useful, important things, mostly without pay. Do you seriously think that being able to provide food, shelter, and clothing for the entire world is a bad thing?
Scarcity is a problem. I don't know about "evil," but definitely a problem. Quite a few extremely talented people don't get to work at "furthering the species" because they're busy trying to get by. There are people starving in Africa who could do wonderful things for the human race if only they weren't dying from hunger. There are people working in sweatshops in Asia for pennies a day who could join you in your quest to answer questions if only they weren't using all their time to stitch up a shoe.
What do you think we're advancing for, anyway? If you don't have a goal in mind, how are you supposed to get there? When we get to the point that we can eliminate scarcity, I'd rejoice that I can finally stop working for a paycheck and start working for personal interest -- I can write the book I've wanted to, make another music album, work on the sufficiently smart compiler, and so on.
Scarcity is a barrier to advancement, not the reason for it.
I [may] disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Those that legislate against "kiddie porn", "snuff", and other things might simply want to prevent you from finding out where your tax dollars are going. http://www.doublestandards.org/torture.html
GP complained about getting banned for posting "legal but under-18 pic in /s/" /s/ is the little boys section, meant for cartoon child porn, since he was banned he must have posted photographs of nude young boys, possibly in sexual situations.
Those would be my number one and two requested features to make it just a bit more difficult to determine what you are uploading and or browsing. At least the HTTPS might cut down on some of the self censorship that I am sure is still happening.
On top of that, multiple tag search would be nice.
So after some looking at the sources I find that its because bayimg uses javascript to render the portion of the thumbnails page that has the thumbnails. After some more experimenting, I find that the following URL will retrieve the first page of thumbnails for a given tag:
Replace the TAG portion of the URL above with the tag you are interested in. For example to retrieve thumbnails of all images with the tag vietnam, I keyed in into the Treo 650's browser.To view the next set of thumbnails one could always choose the last thumbnail, and on its full-image page click on the "next" link.
Or...
As far as I can tell, the page uses the POST method to take page numbers. So I keyed in the following as a web-page, pointed Blazer at it and saved the whole page within Blazer using the book-mark option. Thereafter I only need key in the tag and the page number to view thumbnails: