You may think I'm daft, but you're so full of densely packed wrong you'd best be careful you don't collapse into a black hole of wrong. If you do so, also, please don't become a congressman; we have enough wrong there already.
I did in fact RTFA (in thinksecret), and it's exactly what I was talking about -- some manager took it upon himself to investigate a conversation employees were having despite that they were not using work resources to do what they were accused of doing.
VarBusiness is a pretty standard trade rag which focuses on systems integrators and retail marketers, which is exactly what we're talking about here.
No, it's the agreement itself that is insulting, if what you're saying is true. An NDA is supposed to say that you won't reveal private information you got inside the company to people outside. They didn't download Leopard using work resources, using access codes or passwords they got through work. It has nothing to do with their jobs except they were talking about it in the break room and some manager overheard it and decided to set an example with people who were within arms' reach.
Apple fanatics feel justified in approving this action because they enjoy this sort of moral grandstanding, but it's pure opportunism on Apple's part. It has nothing to do with what an NDA should normally say, and they only took action against the employees because it was easy to do so. That is simply cowardly. If they want to take action, they should track down a bunch of people and sue them like the RIAA, and then we'll see if the Apple fanboys still like what's going on.
Oh, and screw you. There's a reason this is a troll account.:D
Employee handbooks, like their other pseudolegal cousins such as student handbooks, rarely follow anything resembling rule of law or even basic logic. And in any case, it's not embezzlement unless you use your position or access to do it
This smacks of "setting an example" by starting with their own employees, but it mystifies me how so many would have been "caught" in a situation where they would have admitted this. Did some manager take it upon himself to quiz employees who mentioned Leopard in some context or other of conversation?
None of this is too surprising; Apple's lawyers have long been fond of schoolmarmish, morally grandstanding behavior, and many of their users are only too happy in considering themselves as superior human beings to go along with it.
Screw you, troll. He's making a living how he sees fit, and if he's buying a new laptop I assure you his head's above the water. You expose the elitist educated upper class snobbery of the mac set for what it really is.
No, really. Screw your gas guzzling american ass. I shouldn't need a motor vehicle to get to work if there is no physical need in distance to use one, just because my huge fucking employer decides to make some policy change. Let's see them downsize the parking lots at your workplace. Then we'll see who cares about company policies when you can't find a place for your hummer.
Thanks for the corporate speak. Your next action item is to add value to that, leveraging the open source community to take it to the next level. Embrace, extend, and corrupt! Wait, that's Microsoft.
Oh yeah, and screw you, too.
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You may think I'm daft, but you're so full of densely packed wrong you'd best be careful you don't collapse into a black hole of wrong. If you do so, also, please don't become a congressman; we have enough wrong there already.
Also, screw you.
I did in fact RTFA (in thinksecret), and it's exactly what I was talking about -- some manager took it upon himself to investigate a conversation employees were having despite that they were not using work resources to do what they were accused of doing. VarBusiness is a pretty standard trade rag which focuses on systems integrators and retail marketers, which is exactly what we're talking about here.
No, it's the agreement itself that is insulting, if what you're saying is true. An NDA is supposed to say that you won't reveal private information you got inside the company to people outside. They didn't download Leopard using work resources, using access codes or passwords they got through work. It has nothing to do with their jobs except they were talking about it in the break room and some manager overheard it and decided to set an example with people who were within arms' reach.
:D
Apple fanatics feel justified in approving this action because they enjoy this sort of moral grandstanding, but it's pure opportunism on Apple's part. It has nothing to do with what an NDA should normally say, and they only took action against the employees because it was easy to do so. That is simply cowardly. If they want to take action, they should track down a bunch of people and sue them like the RIAA, and then we'll see if the Apple fanboys still like what's going on.
Oh, and screw you. There's a reason this is a troll account.
Employee handbooks, like their other pseudolegal cousins such as student handbooks, rarely follow anything resembling rule of law or even basic logic. And in any case, it's not embezzlement unless you use your position or access to do it
This smacks of "setting an example" by starting with their own employees, but it mystifies me how so many would have been "caught" in a situation where they would have admitted this. Did some manager take it upon himself to quiz employees who mentioned Leopard in some context or other of conversation?
None of this is too surprising; Apple's lawyers have long been fond of schoolmarmish, morally grandstanding behavior, and many of their users are only too happy in considering themselves as superior human beings to go along with it.
Screw you, troll. He's making a living how he sees fit, and if he's buying a new laptop I assure you his head's above the water. You expose the elitist educated upper class snobbery of the mac set for what it really is.
Screw you. Is that offensive enough now, motherfucker?
No, really. Screw your gas guzzling american ass. I shouldn't need a motor vehicle to get to work if there is no physical need in distance to use one, just because my huge fucking employer decides to make some policy change. Let's see them downsize the parking lots at your workplace. Then we'll see who cares about company policies when you can't find a place for your hummer.
See? You're proving my point, moderators! Screw you too!
They have. They just get modded down by all the mac snakeoil drinkers here.
Thanks for the corporate speak. Your next action item is to add value to that, leveraging the open source community to take it to the next level. Embrace, extend, and corrupt! Wait, that's Microsoft. Oh yeah, and screw you, too.
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